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jogdish · 30-09-2018 4:26pm

tedpan wrote: »

Yessss, new firmware is out. Will try to take for a test flight this afternoon

Just updated, still have my tilted horizon issue

in talks with amazon about a return now

tedpan · 30-09-2018 5:02pm

jogdish wrote:

Just updated, still have my tilted horizon issue in talks with amazon about a return now

Yeah, I wouldn't be happy with that. Let us know how it goes..

ozmo · 01-10-2018 10:46am

jogdish wrote: »

Just updated, still have my tilted horizon issue in talks with amazon about a return now

Did you do all the calibrations - I had this issue on a Phantom and did an IMU calibration (make sure you do it in a COLD room on perfectly level ground) -

Then do an image calibration using a PC. I think this is the one that fixed it for me...:
https://www.heliguy.com/blog/calibrating-the-aircraft-vision-systems-dji-mavic-air/

Then there are the two menu items that are supposed to fix it...
The Auto calibration and the manual one if all else fails:
https://www.diyphotography.net/fix-dji-mavic-pro-tilted-horizon-problem/

Its such a common thing to fix - theres a remote shortcut to adjust this without having enter the menus or touch the phone at all.

ozmo · 01-10-2018 10:49am

Shortcut -> "Press and hold right back button and use the right scroll wheel to adjust the horizon."

jogdish · 01-10-2018 11:23am

ozmo wrote: »

Did you do all the calibrations
Then do an image calibration using a PC. I think this is the one that fixed it for me...:
https://www.heliguy.com/blog/calibrating-the-aircraft-vision-systems-dji-mavic-air/

I did the firmware upgrade, then the IMU calibration - well it was room temp. the same as the evening unboxed the drone.
I never knew about the above, i just used the auto calibrate gimbal on the phone screen. The adjusting the gimbal using the settings only solves it for a little bit its out of whack again once I move left/right.
After chatting to DJI they told me it must be a hardware issue?

ozmo · 01-10-2018 3:52pm

jogdish wrote: »

The adjusting the gimbal using the settings only solves it for a little bit its out of whack again once I move left/right.

Ah - sounds like one for dji to fix alright.... hope you get it sorted quick - There are a lot of reports out there of this happening - some saying it was after they updated the firmware - personally Im on stock fw and not going risk updating mine!

The Cold room is because I found if you do it in a hot room - the mavic takes longer "initialising IMU" each power on when out in a cold field - while I guess it warms up internally to the temperature it did its calibrations at - if you do it in a cold room there is no delay at all at this stage of power on.

Cupatae · 01-10-2018 5:31pm

So im gonna bite the bullet and buy one this, week any suggestions on the best place to buy one ? seen someone ebay for 600 with everything but they look a little bit too good to be true! argos is looking for 1000 with nothin just the drone.

tedpan · 01-10-2018 5:58pm

Cupatae wrote:

So im gonna bite the bullet and buy one this, week any suggestions on the best place to buy one ? seen someone ebay for 600 with everything but they look a little bit too good to be true! argos is looking for 1000 with nothin just the drone.

I bought the fly more combo from adverts almost 4 months ago. Brand new in the box for 890e. The price should only come down due to the Mavic 2 release.

ozmo · 02-10-2018 10:44am

Cupatae wrote: »

...any suggestions on the best place to buy one ? seen someone ebay for 600 with everything but they look a little bit too good to be true! argos is looking for 1000 with nothin just the drone.

Amazon is a good place to buy - no messing about if there are any issues - I would ensure with a delicate/expensive item like this that its sold or "fulfilled" by amazon - not a third party. Use CamelCamelCamel to choose the right time to buy.

Here is a few (Amazon guaranteed) - box damaged ones for 533 pounds posted if you are feeling lucky:
https://amzn.to/2zMazzQ
They take it back free post if its not good enough for you when it arrives.

tedpan · 14-10-2018 9:31pm

jogdish wrote: »

Just updated, still have my tilted horizon issue in talks with amazon about a return now

Any news?

Here's a clip from today

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEndGeRPjb8

jogdish · 14-10-2018 10:13pm

tedpan wrote: »

Any news?

My Mavic is all tucked up in it's box, waiting to be collected by UPS back to the netherlands for inspection/repair. Honestly a bit worried I'll end up being charged a ton, but the issue is still there

Cupatae · 15-10-2018 5:17pm

jogdish wrote: »

My Mavic is all tucked up in it's box, waiting to be collected by UPS back to the netherlands for inspection/repair. Honestly a bit worried I'll end up being charged a ton, but the issue is still there

Did u get the dji refresh care? they ll send u a new one for 90 euro i think, i got mine this week and am losing video signal at 100 ft

tedpan · 15-10-2018 7:29pm

Cupatae wrote:

Did u get the dji refresh care? they ll send u a new one for 90 euro i think, i got mine this week and am losing video signal at 100 ft

The replacement is losing signal at 100ft?

Cupatae · 15-10-2018 7:31pm

tedpan wrote: »

The replacement is losing signal at 100ft?

No i havent replaced mine, the original is losing signal at 100ft, im tryna figure out if its something im doing wrong or if its the location or the drone ect..

tedpan · 20-10-2018 2:09pm

Range Test from this morning. 2.2kms, pretty impressed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tm4TX7xPEEA

jogdish · 21-10-2018 2:40pm

tedpan wrote: »

Range Test from this morning. 2.2kms, pretty impressed

When I had my Air I got, 4.1km(8.2 round trip) but I was using the range 'hack'

tedpan · 21-10-2018 2:47pm

jogdish wrote:

When I had my Air I got, 4.1km(8.2 round trip) but I was using the range 'hack'

Nice! 2kms with no hacks is plenty range for me anyway

jogdish · 21-10-2018 2:59pm

tedpan wrote: »

Nice! 2kms with no hacks is plenty range for me anyway

Ya it's not something I will be a rush to do again, there was mild to major panic on the return journey.

Cupatae · 21-10-2018 4:09pm

meanwhile...im happy to get above 120 ft without losing signal haha

jogdish · 21-10-2018 4:22pm

Cupatae wrote: »

meanwhile...im happy to get above 120 ft without losing signal haha

Have you looked at the DJI Air forums? I seem to recall this being a common issue but having an "easy" fix, perhaps I am mixing it up with something.

jogdish · 22-10-2018 2:58pm

Cupatae wrote: »

Did u get the dji refresh care? they ll send u a new one for 90 euro i think, i got mine this week and am losing video signal at 100 ft

As a general update for anyone that cares:

My problem was a gimbal not keeping a level horizon - video in previous post
I do not have DJI care refresh, sent it back for "repair" as it is still under warrenty.
Email, after 2 working days of it arriving with DJI, to let me know it was a defective gimbal, and is under warrenty and will be repaired free of charge.
Says no liquid damage, no crash damage, defectove gimbal - being super honest it has impacted a tree branch and washing line and shows a tiny mark on the body - so they seem to not be looking for reasons to screw me over.
Currenty online says, waiting for Flight test, then Quality assurance.

So far so good, fingers crossed!

Cupatae · 22-10-2018 5:39pm

jogdish wrote: »

Have you looked at the DJI Air forums? I seem to recall this being a common issue but having an "easy" fix, perhaps I am mixing it up with something.

Tried it in a different location worked perfect.

elbyrneo · 30-10-2018 7:25pm

Any good bargains out there?? Am thinking will buy in the next few weeks for my Christmas pressie (from my wife!) Before prices go up too for Xmas.

Black Friday is Nov 23rd maybe then?

Am in debate on fly more combo or just getting extra batteries separately.

Decisions decisions!

jogdish · 30-10-2018 10:31pm

jogdish wrote: »

As a general update for anyone that cares:
My problem was a gimbal not keeping a level horizon - video in previous post

I do not have DJI care refresh, sent it back for "repair" as it is still under warrenty.

Email, after 2 working days of it arriving with DJI, to let me know it was a defective gimbal, and is under warrenty and will be repaired free of charge.

Says no liquid damage, no crash damage, defectove gimbal - being super honest it has impacted a tree branch and washing line and shows a tiny mark on the body - so they seem to not be looking for reasons to screw me over.

Currenty online says, waiting for Flight test, then Quality assurance.

So far so good, fingers crossed!

Update to the above:

Drone back today via UPS, its a brand new drone! Going to have to wait for daylight and weather before I test.

theothernt · 31-10-2018 7:11pm

elbyrneo wrote: »

Any good bargains out there?? Am thinking will buy in the next few weeks for my Christmas pressie (from my wife!) Before prices go up too for Xmas.

Black Friday is Nov 23rd maybe then?

Am in debate on fly more combo or just getting extra batteries separately.

Decisions decisions!

Get the Fly More Combo, it's more than just a couple of extra batteries

jogdish · 31-10-2018 8:03pm

theothernt wrote: »

Get the Fly More Combo, it's more than just a couple of extra batteries

I know I am in the minority here, and having never owned the fly more maybe I am not in a position to give advice.
Personally apart from the batteries , its just a bag and some inexpensive gear that you can pick up later should you ever need it. I posted before about the DJI bag, and the bag I ended up buying.

Cupatae · 31-10-2018 8:42pm

elbyrneo wrote: »

Any good bargains out there?? Am thinking will buy in the next few weeks for my Christmas pressie (from my wife!) Before prices go up too for Xmas.

Black Friday is Nov 23rd maybe then?

Am in debate on fly more combo or just getting extra batteries separately.

Decisions decisions!

Id recommend the Mavic Air fly more bundle its a great bita kit! just order an sd card with it but make sure its fast enough for 4k res

Chavways · 31-10-2018 9:08pm

Hi All,

Just sold my Phantom 3 Advanced and looking to get an Air or Pro. The Air specs all seem better so I'm verging towards that but how does it handle high winds? With us flying in Ireland, we'll be lucky to get a still day. Thanks.

jogdish · 31-10-2018 9:28pm

Chavways wrote: »

Hi All,

Just sold my Phantom 3 Advanced and looking to get an Air or Pro. The Air specs all seem better so I'm verging towards that but how does it handle high winds? With us flying in Ireland, we'll be lucky to get a still day. Thanks.

Personally I only would fly on calm days - but thats just me, however I have had it in the air during winds and its pretty impressive - then again tis my first drone.
Seems very stable here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHoURhYOBOw

Cupatae · 31-10-2018 9:51pm

Chavways wrote: »

Hi All,

Just sold my Phantom 3 Advanced and looking to get an Air or Pro. The Air specs all seem better so I'm verging towards that but how does it handle high winds? With us flying in Ireland, we'll be lucky to get a still day. Thanks.

it does very well in winds the air, it disables its censor so it can pitch down more, something the pro doesnt do, its nice to have but id still try avoid windy days tbh

Chavways · 10-11-2018 5:12pm

Thanks all. I think I'll go for the Mavic Air. Will wait ti out until Black Friday to see if there are any good deals around.

jogdish · 10-11-2018 6:37pm

Chavways wrote: »

Thanks all. I think I'll go for the Mavic Air. Will wait ti out until Black Friday to see if there are any good deals around.

Let us know all the details and how she flies

theothernt · 11-11-2018 5:20pm

Cupatae wrote: »

it disables its censor so it can pitch down more, something the pro doesnt do,

Where are you getting that from ?!

ozmo · 12-11-2018 2:43am

Cupatae wrote: »

it does very well in winds the air, it disables its censor so it can pitch down more, something the pro doesnt do, its nice to have but id still try avoid windy days tbh

Air has a good few extra tricks - but Pro is still better imho. For the Ocusync signal stability and it flies better in high wind.

Cupatae · 13-11-2018 4:01am

ozmo wrote: »

Air has a good few extra tricks - but Pro is still better imho. For the Ocusync signal stability and it flies better in high wind.

The Pro doesn't disable obstacle detection so it doesn't pitch down as much as the Air and struggles when flying against the wind compared to the air. I dunno about the pro 2, Ocusync is way better tho.

ozmo · 14-11-2018 2:15am

Cupatae wrote: »

The Pro doesn't disable obstacle detection so it doesn't pitch down as much as the Air and struggles when flying against the wind compared to the air. I dunno about the pro 2, Ocusync is way better tho.

Mavic does indeed handle the wind very well... it tilts as much as needed...

I’ve flown the Mavic Pro in ~60km/h winds

See below - this was the snow blizzard last feb...

Effects · 14-11-2018 2:31am

ozmo wrote: »

I’ve flown the Mavic Pro in ~60km/h winds

I wouldn't be saying I was flying in 60km winds based on an online wind guide.

Cupatae · 14-11-2018 3:12am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfQpf4oEJWg

Thats the video, i checked out before i bought the air, the pro struggles and drifts compared to the air.

Im not saying the pro is bad or anything just from what ive seen the air is meant to be better in winds.

ozmo · 14-11-2018 2:56pm

Effects wrote: »

...based on an online wind guide.

This isn't based on the weather forecast - It's extra data extracted from the drone log files you have to upload to the service- its a well regarded service - and yes it really was that windy!
The site that does this is https://airdata.com/

I wouldn't fly normally in winds over 20km/h - but that day I wanted to get the snow before it melted... and it handled it no problem - I would be nervous sending the Air up in that....

I've nothing against the Mavic Air - I own both Air and Pro (why Im on this thread).

The picture quality of the Air is far better - the sensors, return-to-home via path of the Air is better, follow me, speed, better quick shots, the focus is easier and the drone is smaller.

But imho the Mavic Pro wins hands down in
* Signal Reception
* Longer flight time before battery change
And for those two reasons alone its the drone I tend to use most.

Thanks for the video link -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfQpf4oEJWg

I always felt more confident flying the pro in winds (gusts at cliffs etc)- but I will re-test them following the video you posted

Cupatae · 14-11-2018 7:14pm

ozmo wrote: »

This isn't based on the weather forecast - It's extra data extracted from the drone log files you have to upload to the service- its a well regarded service - and yes it really was that windy!
The site that does this is https://airdata.com/

I wouldn't fly normally in winds over 20km/h - but that day I wanted to get the snow before it melted... and it handled it no problem - I would be nervous sending the Air up in that....

I've nothing against the Mavic Air - I own both Air and Pro (why Im on this thread).

The picture quality of the Air is far better - the sensors, return-to-home via path of the Air is better, follow me, speed, better quick shots, the focus is easier and the drone is smaller.

But imho the Mavic Pro wins hands down in
* Signal Reception
* Longer flight time before battery change
And for those two reasons alone its the drone I tend to use most.

Thanks for the video link -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfQpf4oEJWg

I always felt more confident flying the pro in winds (gusts at cliffs etc)- but I will re-test them following the video you posted

There both good, its a preference thing, i prefer the portability of the air, the fly more extra batteries give more than enough flight time for me aswell

I wouldnt say the Pro wins hands down its apples and oranges really, it wins if the race is flight time and occusync but if its portability and speed, it loses.. if ya get me! depends what you value more.

Either way both good drones id prob be happy with either but the air suited my needs better.

ozmo · 14-11-2018 10:19pm

Cupatae wrote: »

I wouldnt say the Pro wins hands down

Oh - I meant that only in those two categories- Signal and battery...
Wind I will retest - but Mavic Air better in all other regards in my opinion.

I do like flying though knowing the signal or battery is never going to be an issue.

Effects · 14-11-2018 11:49pm

ozmo wrote: »

This isn't based on the weather forecast - It's extra data extracted from the drone log files you have to upload to the service- its a well regarded service - and yes it really was that windy!
The site that does this is https://airdata.com/

I must check it out so.

But imho the Mavic Pro wins hands down in
* Signal Reception

What kind of distance are you getting with the Mavic?
I'm finding it slightly disappointing at times.

jogdish · 14-11-2018 11:52pm

Effects wrote: »

I must check it out so.

What kind of distance are you getting with the Mavic?
I'm finding it slightly disappointing at times.

Have ye tried the FCC 'hack', got 4.2km in open country, zero issues.

tedpan · 14-11-2018 11:56pm

Effects wrote: »

I must check it out so.

What kind of distance are you getting with the Mavic?
I'm finding it slightly disappointing at times.

I haven't flown an awful lot but I get around 2kms on the Mavic air although have also lost control at 30metres due to interference, but luckily it's happened only once!

My mate has the pro and regularly gets over 3km over sea.

Effects · 15-11-2018 5:09am

jogdish wrote: »

Have ye tried the FCC 'hack', got 4.2km in open country, zero issues.

I'll have a look into that. I think I've been getting 2.5km but was hoping for more.

I've lost connection twice and it gets less worrying each time when it automatically heads for home!

Chavways · 19-11-2018 1:40pm

Just a heads up that with the Amazon Warehouse Black Friday sale, you can get Mavic Airs and Pros for crazy cheap this week. I picked up a new Mavic Air Flymore Combo for 670 euro this morning. Crazy value compared to the 1100 Harvey Normans are charging.

tedpan · 19-11-2018 1:51pm

Chavways wrote:

Just a heads up that with the Amazon Warehouse Black Friday sale, you can get Mavic Airs and Pros for crazy cheap this week. I picked up a new Mavic Air Flymore Combo for 670 euro this morning. Crazy value compared to the 1100 Harvey Normans are charging.

Do you have links? 680e for the fly more combo is unreal, I paid 890e 5 months ago. Are the warehouse products brand new?

Chavways · 19-11-2018 3:44pm

tedpan wrote: »

Do you have links? 680e for the fly more combo is unreal, I paid 890e 5 months ago. Are the warehouse products brand new?

Link here.

They vary in quality from Like New all the way to acceptable. So in the case of a Like New one, it'll just have a damaged box but as you go down the scale there can be some scratches and marks on the unit and they get cheaper as a result. You are entitled to a full refund though if the item is not up to your satisfaction on arrival. Discount is applied at check out also. There are many other drones available on Amazon UK, Germany and Italy. I found the French site to be cheapest for a new one.

I've bought my latest phone this way also and saved 300 euro compared to bricks and mortar shops.

Cupatae · 21-11-2018 5:00am

My first video, im well happy with the air!

tedpan · 21-11-2018 11:09am

Cupatae wrote:

My first video, im well happy with the air!

Lovely video man! When was this. I'm off work this week and no chance of flying

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