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Sleeper cars

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    #92
    Carpentry
    Registered Users Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭Carpentry


    mloc123 wrote: »
    8 seconds to 60.. hardly a Rocket. About average compared to almost all new 2l diesel family cars

    and ONLY 280 Nm of torque, yeah, that is slow, I guess you got a car that will do better.
    Do your maths before posting, seriously. I guess you are from the crowd that would be easily cheated by the sleepers car.


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    #93
    grogi
    Registered Users Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭grogi


    Carpentry wrote: »
    and ONLY 280 Nm of torque, yeah, that is slow, I guess you got a car that will do better.
    Do your maths before posting, seriously. I guess you are from the crowd that will be easily cheated by the sleepers car.

    Torque figure alone is meaningless.


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    #94
    mloc123
    Registered Users Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    Carpentry wrote: »
    mloc123 wrote: »

    Dual/Quad ??? Its quite a difference, actually double the difference between dual and quad.

    A car with quad exhausts generally has twin back boxes.. right?

    A dual backbox with letterbox tips is the same as a dual backbox with split tips like this IMO

    5f73b64746d7cb24fad5a809d4131c98.jpg


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    #95
    mloc123
    Registered Users Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    Carpentry wrote: »
    and ONLY 280 Nm of torque, yeah, that is slow, I guess you got a car that will do better.
    Do your maths before posting, seriously. I guess you are from the crowd that would be easily cheated by the sleepers car.

    haha.. as it happens, I do :)

    350Nm, 5.8 to 62 etc.. I wouldn't class it as 'a rocket' tho


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    #96
    Carpentry
    Registered Users Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭Carpentry


    mloc123 wrote: »
    Carpentry wrote: »

    A car with quad exhausts generally has twin back boxes.. right?

    A dual backbox with letterbox tips is the same as a dual backbox with split tips like this IMO

    5f73b64746d7cb24fad5a809d4131c98.jpg

    thats an aftermarket exaust, not manufacturers spec.


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    #97
    Carpentry
    Registered Users Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭Carpentry


    mloc123 wrote: »
    haha.. as it happens, I do :)

    350Nm, 5.8 to 62 etc.. I wouldn't class it as 'a rocket' tho

    Skoda SuperB its a hardly a rocket too, even on 19" wheels :D


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    #98
    mloc123
    Registered Users Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    Carpentry wrote: »
    Skoda SuperB its a hardly a rocket too, even on 19" wheels :D

    Indeed.. hence why I say I would not classify it a rocket.


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    #99
    heroics
    Registered Users Posts: 1,878 ✭✭✭heroics


    something like this

    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/bmw-e34-fitted-with-m3-3-2-engine-s50b32-3-0-m3-m5/15688364

    the S50B32 engine produces ~320 bhp and 258 lb·ft


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    #100
    [Deleted User]
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    To me sleeper cars should be unmodified cars.

    The epitome of the concept has to be the Volvo 850r.

    VOLVO-850-R-3522_4.jpg


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    #101
    morritty
    Registered Users Posts: 887 ✭✭✭morritty


    glasso wrote: »
    To me sleeper cars should be unmodified cars.

    Personally for me, it should be a modified car, a sleeper should shock even the biggest car people out there.

    For me, this would be a classic example. http://www.speedhunters.com/2014/01/want-good-sleeper-try-brick-shaped-supra/


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    #102
    cruizer101
    Registered Users Posts: 3,205 ✭✭✭cruizer101


    I thought the thread was mean to be links to Sleeper cars for sale as opposed to a debate on what a sleeper car is which has discussed plenty of times before and is something people will never agree on. Some people think a C55 AMG is a sleeper as most people won't see it as different to a bog standard C-class, some think its not a sleeper as it says C55 on it so isn't it obvious its fast, most people won't change their mind on this so its a bit of a pointless debate. Also there aren't that many modified sleepers for sale I would think.

    Better I think to post links to actual sleeper cars for sales, or at least cars that you would consider sleeper cars that are for sale and maybe it can be discussed then, it is the Buying forum after all.

    Personally I'd consider these sleepers E 500 and S55, both are giving a hell of a lot of bang for your buck and would surprise a lot of people.

    Also thought I'd include this 500 SEL, lovely looking car and I'd say plenty of poke for its age.


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    #103
    bladespin
    Registered Users Posts: 7,334 ✭✭✭bladespin


    morritty wrote: »
    Personally for me, it should be a modified car, a sleeper should shock even the biggest car people out there.

    For me, this would be a classic example. http://www.speedhunters.com/2014/01/want-good-sleeper-try-brick-shaped-supra/

    That is truly awesome!


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    #104
    Cienciano
    Registered Users Posts: 14,230 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Carpentry wrote: »

    the ONLY ? Id say thats more than only. You see the car with quad exhaust you can tell straight away that is seriously powered, especially when you join it together with V8 badge. Not to mention the sound of it.

    No, no other difference on the outside. Some don't have the big grille. The v8 badge is tiny. Exhausts you might notice. You wouldn't notice from the sound of it unless you put the foot to the floor.
    The engine takes up so much room in the engine bay they had to put the battery in the boot.


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    #105
    morritty
    Registered Users Posts: 887 ✭✭✭morritty


    OSI wrote: »
    This is the buying forum, and the spirit of this thread was to be similar to that of the Luxobarges thread. Posts should be limited to links to relevant cars for sale, and discussions of same.

    Might be better to rename the title sleepernomics? or something to that effect? just to keep it on par with the other threads?


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    #106
    tedpan
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,627 Mod ✭✭✭✭tedpan


    heroics wrote:
    something like this

    heroics wrote:
    the S50B32 engine produces ~320 bhp and 258 lb·ft

    Lol, the ad says the 3.2 litre M3 engine is taken from a 3.0 M3.. the trickery


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    #107
    heroics
    Registered Users Posts: 1,878 ✭✭✭heroics


    tedpan wrote: »
    Lol, the ad says the 3.2 litre M3 engine is taken from a 3.0 M3.. the trickery

    :D:D:D The idea is still what I class as a sleeper.


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    #108
    selectamatic
    Registered Users Posts: 3,895 ✭✭✭selectamatic


    Ym_Y0_Nz_Nh_NDI4_ODJl_ZDc4_NDk0_ZTkz_Zj_Rh_NGNm_Mjlj_ZDh_J9_A6o.jpg

    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/ford-transit-st-sport-now-with-6-months-road-tax/15477640

    165bhp transit
    Nothing too hectic but it'd be enough to surprise a fair few cars on the road especially since it's a van.

    Really needs a set of Steelies and the sport badges removed to go full stealth.


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    #109
    Standard Toaster
    Registered Users Posts: 10,252 ✭✭✭✭Standard Toaster


    Ford S-max 2.5T

    car_photo_25572.jpg?itok=9Xa_i3Is


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rl77ckJ7dA


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    #110
    Teddington Cuddlesworth
    Registered Users Posts: 315 ✭✭Teddington Cuddlesworth


    I'd say these classify as sleepers.
    Other than bigger alloys and a slightly different grill, most people would be hard pushed to distinguish it from the average 1.3/1.6

    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mazda-3-mps/15878058

    Although, the red color doesn't help my case. If it was done in the usual drab mazda 3 color....


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    #111
    Duke O Smiley
    Registered Users Posts: 12,074 ✭✭✭✭Duke O Smiley


    selectamatic wrote: »
    Ym_Y0_Nz_Nh_NDI4_ODJl_ZDc4_NDk0_ZTkz_Zj_Rh_NGNm_Mjlj_ZDh_J9_A6o.jpg

    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/ford-transit-st-sport-now-with-6-months-road-tax/15477640

    165bhp transit
    Nothing too hectic but it'd be enough to surprise a fair few cars on the road especially since it's a van.

    Really needs a set of Steelies and the sport badges removed to go full stealth.

    TSW Venoms! Class


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    #112
    Duke O Smiley
    Registered Users Posts: 12,074 ✭✭✭✭Duke O Smiley


    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/bmw-550i/15974497

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    550i


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    #113
    tedpan
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,627 Mod ✭✭✭✭tedpan


    That 550i is nice, but if it shot off in front of me from the lights I wouldn't be shocked. Not really a sleeper in my opinion.


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    #114
    bazz26
    Registered Users Posts: 51,144 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Take off the 550i badge though and it just blends in with the other million 520ds on the road.


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    #115
    Odyssey 2005
    Registered Users Posts: 21,065 ✭✭✭✭Odyssey 2005


    That 550 is lovely. But nearly 2.5k for tax :(
    Them greens have a lot to answer for.


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    #116
    B00056718
    Registered Users Posts: 305 ✭✭B00056718


    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/lexus-gs-450-hybrid-executive-nct-just-passed-/15507180

    Just another old man's Lexus. Won't be far behind the 550i on takeoff. Not many people realize the amount of power in these.


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    #117
    MAJJ
    Registered Users Posts: 1,679 ✭✭✭MAJJ


    bazz26 wrote: »
    Take off the 550i badge though and it just blends in with the other million 520ds on the road.

    Especially with the hitch on it.


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    #118
    MAJJ
    Registered Users Posts: 1,679 ✭✭✭MAJJ


    B00056718 wrote: »
    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/lexus-gs-450-hybrid-executive-nct-just-passed-/15507180

    Just another old man's Lexus. Won't be far behind the 550i on takeoff. Not many people realize the amount of power in these.

    To continue the Lexus theme

    The power in these for similar reason as the 450H really surprised me and the look shape of car never gave it away.

    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/07-lexus-rx400h-massive-spec-nct-2019-unreal-value/14943145


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    #119
    selectamatic
    Registered Users Posts: 3,895 ✭✭✭selectamatic


    YTBm_ZTlk_M2_Qx_ZGIx_YTgy_Nz_Bi_Zj_Q0_NGJl_ZDU1_OTcw_Yj_Mn_LGn_Y.jpg

    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mercedes-benz-b-class-b-200-turbo-/12905755

    Manual and about 200bhp. Looks very sedated even for a warm mpv.


    And then for me this is even better than a normal sleeper especially in Ireland. Altezza's have a bad rep and many many car enthusiasts loathe them. They're also not that fast about 200bhp on Irish fuel when they're healthy but there's a fierce amount of lazy wrecked ones knocking about putting out alot less and they're a good heavy car for a revy 2.0n/a to shift along.

    All this culminates in basically anyone in a car that's anyways near 200bhp or higher trying to make a bit of a show of said Tezza pilots should they be in command of a lazy 3sge diffin wagon or even worse a tarted up is200.

    Step forward: 1jz altezza
    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-altezza-1jzmanual/15534011


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    #120
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users Posts: 73,387 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Off topic, but that strut brace doesn't look like it would do a very good job?


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    #121
    tedpan
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,627 Mod ✭✭✭✭tedpan


    colm_mcm wrote:
    Off topic, but that strut brace doesn't look like it would do a very good job?


    Lol, does look like it will fold


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