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Yaris GR - 260 BPH, 4x4 with LSD...

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  • #52
    eljono
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭eljono


    I called into a Toyota dealer early March to enquire about pricing, estimated quantity coming to Ireland, etc. The sales rep said pricing was around €25k. They thought I was enquiring about a Yaris Hybrid GR Sport :pac:

    They've been in touch since to say that production is lined up for August, deliveries to Ireland for October and that spec is not a done deal at the moment. This however was a week before Corona-times. Who knows now how things will have changed.

    Personally I think it's a very exciting car. There's nothing else like it on the market and it has the potential to be a future classic. Very interested to read/see some proper reviews to get a feel for how it drives.


  • #53
    Philb76
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭Philb76


    https://youtu.be/D0bTFAjK8tM


  • #54
    Chris_Heilong
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,974 ✭✭✭Chris_Heilong


    It is like a new Glanza.


  • #55
    Pops_20
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭Pops_20


    eljono wrote: »
    I called into a Toyota dealer early March to enquire about pricing, estimated quantity coming to Ireland, etc. The sales rep said pricing was around €25k. They thought I was enquiring about a Yaris Hybrid GR Sport :pac:
    .

    Any update on this? Is it actually possible to order the GR through the Irish dealers or will it have to be a UK import?
    There's no information about the GR Yaris on Toyota.ie.


  • #56
    eljono
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭eljono


    From what I've been told, yes they can be ordered through Irish Toyota network with first GR4 arrivals due in Oct/Nov. Pricing yet to be confirmed.


  • #57
    RY4
    Registered Users Posts: 21 ✭RY4


    I was told next July by a guy working for Toyota last week but thought it should be sooner than that.


  • #58
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,477 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    I’d be shocked if they make it as far as the dealers.


  • #59
    Pops_20
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭Pops_20


    Digging up this thread again... the GR Yaris has made it on to the Toyota Ireland website - https://www.toyota.ie/world-of-toyota/toyotagazooracing/gr-yaris

    It's getting great reviews from motoring journalists lately - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyfOupPZy64

    It's the only new car within reach that has caught my interest since I started driving to be honest. As others have mentioned, it's probably going to be prohibitively expensive here compared to the UK.


  • #60
    punisher5112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Remember when rally cars were big saloon/hatch types now they're all so tiny.... Don't get it.


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  • #61
    Cheensbo
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    punisher5112 wrote: »
    Remember when rally cars were big saloon/hatch types now they're all so tiny.... Don't get it.

    Believe it or not - aside from overall length it's bigger than a 6th gen celica gt4!


  • #62
    noelf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭noelf


    Mat loves it https://youtu.be/3TxW4AU6IaM


  • #63
    ba_barabus
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    Any idea what price it will be here?


  • #64
    CR 7
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    Is around €40k a bit optimistic? Just going by the GT86 prices in uk compared to when they sold them here.


  • #65
    ba_barabus
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    3dr only?


  • #66
    Cheensbo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,704 ✭✭✭Cheensbo


    ba_barabus wrote: »
    3dr only?

    Yep, its a completely different chassis to the normal yaris.


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  • #67
    GustavoFring
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭GustavoFring


    CR 7 wrote: »
    Is around €40k a bit optimistic? Just going by the GT86 prices in uk compared to when they sold them here.

    I'd add about 10k to that.


  • #68
    Henry Ford III
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,757 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    GustavoFring wrote: »
    I'd add about 10k to that.

    I'd agree. That presupposes it makes it here at all.

    Looks like it'd be a lot of fun.


  • #69
    CR 7
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    Hopefully they sell enough uk ones that I can get my hands on one in 2/3 years. The finance rates look cheap enough over there that it should sell fairly well.


  • #70
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,477 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    GustavoFring wrote: »
    I'd add about 10k to that.

    Golf R money so


  • #71
    eljono
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭eljono


    Standard model is going to be around €51k I was told by a Toyota dealer. Not sure yet how much the circuit pack will add to the price.


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  • #72
    punisher5112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    That's pure nuts for a bleeding Yaris though....

    I get it, Toyota are reliable etc etc etc but no.....


  • #73
    Wailin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,432 ✭✭✭Wailin


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Golf R money so

    Double the fun factor though.


  • #74
    Wailin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,432 ✭✭✭Wailin


    punisher5112 wrote: »
    That's pure nuts for a bleeding Yaris though....

    I get it, Toyota are reliable etc etc etc but no.....

    So is 62k for a bleeding golf though.


  • #75
    Cheensbo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,704 ✭✭✭Cheensbo


    Wailin wrote: »
    So is 62k for a bleeding golf though.

    And the yaris is bespoke


  • #76
    selectamatic
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    CR 7 wrote: »
    Is around €40k a bit optimistic? Just going by the GT86 prices in uk compared to when they sold them here.
    GustavoFring wrote: »
    I'd add about 10k to that.

    10k at the very least shur as I posted earlier in the thread the GRMN yaris was €42k here so god knows how they'll price the GR.


  • #77
    AMKC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,298 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=
    Cheensbo wrote: »
    Yep, its a completely different chassis to the normal yaris.

    It's more than a completely different chassis. The only parts it shares with a standard Yaris are the rear lights and one other part. This car was built by copying how a rally car is built and from the ground up instead of a standard car like say a Golf that is the turned into a GTi by adding faster parts to it and upgrading it. This yaris is designed from the ground up to be a very advanced fun little car.
    punisher5112 wrote: »
    That's pure nuts for a bleeding Yaris though....

    I get it, Toyota are reliable etc etc etc but no.....
    It is a lot of money alright but this car is as someone else said bespoke and designed like I said from the ground up. The video on You Tube that explains it is an excellent watch.
    If I won the lotto tomorrow I would buy one.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • #78
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,477 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Why bother making it a Yaris then?


  • #79
    selectamatic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,996 ✭✭✭selectamatic


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Why bother making it a Yaris then?

    Homologation. I suppose they could have given it a bespoke name but did they need to really? Toyota have a long history of performance versions of their normal cars so I suppose its a throw back to that.

    Seems to me Toyota want to have a right cut at the wrc and are willing to stump up the funds in design and development to perhaps gain a competitive edge by not using an existing platform.


  • #80
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,477 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Biggest thing against is that it’s a Yaris.


  • #81
    Cheensbo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,704 ✭✭✭Cheensbo


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Biggest thing against is that it’s a Yaris.


    They've gone and done an escort cosworth on it, and tbf I'd have a normal yaris over a non Cossie Mk5/6 escort :pac:


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  • #82
    djan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,872 ✭✭✭djan


    You basically get a road legal (track) car with levels of control and agility cars double its price dream of.

    Really has nothing to do with a Yaris apart the name :)


  • #83
    CJhaughey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,907 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    Its really half a Corolla and a custom front.
    Carbon fibre polymer bodywork, fancy diff and a fair few horses and torques with it.
    I wouldn't mind having one, the hardest part would be choosing between White/Pearl white, Red or Black.
    Of course you'd have to get the track kit as well..


  • #84
    ianobrien
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,755 ✭✭✭ianobrien


    eljono wrote: »
    Standard model is going to be around €51k I was told by a Toyota dealer. Not sure yet how much the circuit pack will add to the price.

    Geez that's good value compared to the Golf R at €62k ish for what it is.

    It's VERY tempting for what it is, a car designed to be a hot hatch rather than a standard car converted into a hot hatch (no matter how well converted)

    Oh, and it's got a PROPER handbrake!


  • #85
    punisher5112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    I honestly think they should have brought it back as the Celica.... Mr2..... Something like that....


  • #86
    CJhaughey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,907 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    punisher5112 wrote: »
    I honestly think they should have brought it back as the Celica.... Mr2..... Something like that....

    But if they don't sell a current model Celica or MR2 then the halo effect isn't as strong.
    At least with a Yaris branded car they have some marketing power, plus a lot of people that weren't following Toyota WRC back in the 90's won't have any interest in those names.
    They already have an outlier in the BRZ/GT with no other running mates.


  • #87
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,477 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Who’s gonna buy something else from the current lineup based on liking the GR?


    I’m delighted to see them doing something bonkers for a change though.


  • #88
    punisher5112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    CJhaughey wrote: »
    But if they don't sell a current model Celica or MR2 then the halo effect isn't as strong.
    At least with a Yaris branded car they have some marketing power, plus a lot of people that weren't following Toyota WRC back in the 90's won't have any interest in those names.
    They already have an outlier in the BRZ/GT with no other running mates.

    Look at the ch-r they sell like hot cakes, something new will sell..... Obviously this not so much as it's nuts but I definitely would like....


  • #89
    bgo1
    Registered Users Posts: 100 ✭✭bgo1


    The Irish price is now out according to a Dublin dealer:

    €50930 starting price.


  • #90
    selectamatic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,996 ✭✭✭selectamatic


    punisher5112 wrote: »
    Look at the ch-r they sell like hot cakes, something new will sell..... Obviously this not so much as it's nuts but I definitely would like....

    But they're not gonna run ch-r in the wrc.

    The gr is a "yaris" because they've ran the yaris platform since the return to the wrc in 2017.

    Now by having this yaris gr they can push the boundaries even further with their wrc car.
    bgo1 wrote: »
    The Irish price is now out according to a Dublin dealer:

    €50930 starting price.

    Not awful bad really. Certainly not as dear as I thought Toyota Ireland would price it. I was thinking upwards of 60k tbh.


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  • #91
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,477 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    This is kinda cheating in a way though, building a road car based on WRF rather than the other way around.


  • #92
    Cheensbo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,704 ✭✭✭Cheensbo


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    This is kinda cheating in a way though, building a road car based on WRF rather than the other way around.

    All the best homologation specials are exactly that though -

    Cosworth Escort
    RS200
    Renault 5 Maxi
    Metro 6r4
    BX 4TC
    Stratos
    22B
    Etc...


  • #93
    CJhaughey
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    colm_mcm wrote: »
    This is kinda cheating in a way though, building a road car based on WRF rather than the other way around.

    Toyota are excellent at cheating, remember their blow off hose?


  • #94
    Wailin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,432 ✭✭✭Wailin


    Some review of it here:

    https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/toyota/gr-yaris

    Christ I'd love one!


  • #95
    Henry Ford III
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,757 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    bgo1 wrote: »
    The Irish price is now out according to a Dublin dealer:

    €50930 starting price.

    You'd get 2 Fiesta ST3's for that.


  • #96
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,477 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Henry Ford III wrote: »
    You'd get 2 Fiesta ST3's for that.

    Or 5 Dacia Sanderos


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  • #97
    galwaytt
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    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Any idea what the emissions are on it?

    186g/km.

    So, €570 motortax, soon to be €750 I'd say.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • #98
    Wailin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,432 ✭✭✭Wailin


    171-190g is €750.


  • #99
    grogi
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    galwaytt wrote: »
    186g/km.

    So, €570 motortax, soon to be €750 I'd say.

    Seriously? That's your biggest consideration?!


  • #100
    Henry Ford III
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,757 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Or 5 Dacia Sanderos

    You are welcome to them 😂


  • #101
    punisher5112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    LIGHTNING wrote: »
    You'd think being a motoring forum people would get the idea behind this car. But nope people are like "but its just a Yaris" :rolleyes: It's a bespoke car built from pretty much the ground up. Its not a tarted up version of a stock Yaris.

    GTFO out of here with talk of tax rates and other crap. People complain that all modern cars are boring and the same and Toyota does something different and the complaints roll in..

    I do understand but a Yaris....grrr


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