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All diesel fuel is not the same

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  • 16-09-2019 9:01pm
    #1
    mikeecho
    Registered Users Posts: 5,071 ✭✭✭


    Today I got fuel from two well known reputable brands.
    These stations are side by side, and the fuel was bought minutes apart.

    IMG-20190916-162318.jpg

    https://i.ibb.co/D8dYpt8/IMG-20190916-162318.jpg

    Notice the different colours


    Any thoughts


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    #2
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users Posts: 73,387 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Different laundering process.


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    #3
    NIMAN
    Registered Users Posts: 33,105 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    different drums?


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    #4
    punisher5112
    Registered Users Posts: 24,647 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Rust in tank???

    Dirty fuel??


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    sunnysoutheast
    Registered Users Posts: 2,072 ✭✭✭sunnysoutheast


    mikeecho wrote: »
    Today I got fuel from two well known reputable brands.
    These stations are side by side, and the fuel was bought minutes apart.



    Notice the different colours


    Any thoughts

    Whereabouts?


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    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 38,958 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Pour some into some clear jars for us to see as the two plastic containers appear to use different plastic (the one on the right looks more dense)


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    893bet
    Registered Users Posts: 8,767 ✭✭✭893bet


    The drums are clearly different. Look at the top that’s unfilled.


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    mikeecho
    Registered Users Posts: 5,071 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    Pour some into some clear jars for us to see as the two plastic containers appear to use different plastic (the one on the right looks more dense)

    Both drums are the same.

    I actually filled up 4 drums at each station.
    Station 1 has darker fuel in all 4 drums, and likewise, station 2 had lighter coloured fuel.

    Bought in cork, two very busy, and reputable stations.


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    punisher5112
    Registered Users Posts: 24,647 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Id be getting it tested....

    As said put into a glass or jar and see.


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    #10
    mikeecho
    Registered Users Posts: 5,071 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    Pour some into some clear jars for us to see as the two plastic containers appear to use different plastic (the one on the right looks more dense)



    I actually filled up 4 drums at each station.
    Station 1 has darker fuel in all 4 drums, and likewise, station 2 had lighter coloured fuel.

    Bought in cork, two very busy, and reputable stations.

    I'll take a pic of all 8 drums tomorrow.

    The colour difference isn't due to the plastic drum


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    #11
    mikeecho
    Registered Users Posts: 5,071 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    punisher5112 wrote: »
    Id be getting it tested....

    As said put into a glass or jar and see.

    Which one ?

    And who's gonna pay


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    K.Flyer
    Registered Users Posts: 8,565 ✭✭✭K.Flyer


    Was the left drum used for Kerosene recently?

    I wouldn't like to be dipped with the fuel from the left drum in my tank.


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    murphyebass
    Registered Users Posts: 5,553 ✭✭✭murphyebass


    Put them in a glass and drink a little. Just to test the consistency.


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    mikeecho
    Registered Users Posts: 5,071 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    K.Flyer wrote: »
    Was the left drum used for Kerosene recently?

    I wouldn't like to be dipped with the fuel from the left drum in my tank.

    No kerosene


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    Toyotafanboi
    Registered Users Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    893bet wrote: »
    The drums are clearly different. Look at the top that’s unfilled.

    Yeah, to be fair, the drum on the right looks more clouded.


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    #16
    mikeecho
    Registered Users Posts: 5,071 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    murphyebass wrote: »
    Put them in a glass and drink a little. Just to test the consistency.

    I'll stick to the gin


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    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 38,958 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    mikeecho wrote: »
    I'll take a pic of all 8 drums tomorrow.

    The colour difference isn't due to the plastic drum
    There is a difference in the plastic colours. It's quite obvious in your photo.
    Show us the liquids with no plastic!


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    #18
    mikeecho
    Registered Users Posts: 5,071 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    Toyotafanboi wrote: »
    Yeah, to be fair, the drum on the right looks more clouded.

    As I've said.. multiple drums.. 4 are dark.

    FFS.. I'll go out and take a pic of all 8


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    K.Flyer
    Registered Users Posts: 8,565 ✭✭✭K.Flyer


    mikeecho wrote: »
    As I've said.. multiple drums.. 4 are dark.

    FFS.. I'll go out and take a pic of all 8

    I'd be more curious to see samples in clear glass.
    Definitely got a bit of a Kero look about it.
    I wonder how revenue would look at it at a dipping check.


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    KCross
    Registered Users Posts: 12,076 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    mikeecho wrote: »
    As I've said.. multiple drums.. 4 are dark.

    FFS.. I'll go out and take a pic of all 8

    Forget the drums. Pour a little of each into a glass container otherwise it’s a wasted exercise.


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    jimmycrackcorm
    Registered Users Posts: 14,329 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    mikeecho wrote: »
    Both drums are the same.

    Can you back that up with actual proof that they're by the same manufacturer using the same materials to produce ?


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    mikeecho
    Registered Users Posts: 5,071 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    Ok
    Bear in mind that this pic was taken with a fluorescent tube overhead.

    IMG-20190916-212223.jpg

    https://i.ibb.co/Zh4sjHn/IMG-20190916-212223.jpg

    Counting the drums,
    Top row 1 to 4
    Bottom row 5 to 8

    Going left to right

    1,2,5,8 =Brand A
    3,4,6,7= Brand B

    Ok.. there might be some slight colour difference with the plastics, but Brand A is definitely darker in colour.


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    godtabh
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,204 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    mikeecho wrote: »
    Ok
    Bear in mind that this pic was taken with a fluorescent tube overhead.

    IMG-20190916-212223.jpg

    https://i.ibb.co/Zh4sjHn/IMG-20190916-212223.jpg

    Counting the drums,
    Top row 1 to 4
    Bottom row 5 to 8

    Going left to right

    1,2,5,8 =Brand A
    3,4,6,7= Brand B

    Ok.. there might be some slight colour difference with the plastics, but Brand A is definitely darker in colour.

    8 different pumps?


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    #24
    mikeecho
    Registered Users Posts: 5,071 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    jimmycrackcorm wrote: »
    Can you back that up with actual proof that they're by the same manufacturer using the same materials to produce ?

    No


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    #25
    mikeecho
    Registered Users Posts: 5,071 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    godtabh wrote: »
    8 different pumps?

    No.. two different stations,
    Almost 100L bought from each, from a single pump at each.
    In one transaction , each time.

    And bought within minutes of each other

    (I have receipts to prove that 99L was bought in each station, only minutes apart)


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    listermint
    Registered Users Posts: 33,687 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Why would anyone go to two different station's...


    Why didnt you but it all at the same place



    Just for clarifications sake


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    #27
    punisher5112
    Registered Users Posts: 24,647 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Honest question, why 2 separate station purchases???


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    KCross
    Registered Users Posts: 12,076 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    mikeecho wrote: »
    Ok
    Bear in mind that this pic was taken with a fluorescent tube overhead.

    IMG-20190916-212223.jpg

    https://i.ibb.co/Zh4sjHn/IMG-20190916-212223.jpg

    Counting the drums,
    Top row 1 to 4
    Bottom row 5 to 8

    Going left to right

    1,2,5,8 =Brand A
    3,4,6,7= Brand B

    Ok.. there might be some slight colour difference with the plastics, but Brand A is definitely darker in colour.

    I see 4 different colours there. You can’t really tell anything through plastic.

    There can be differences anyway with additives that different providers put in so it might all be above board so your thread title is accurate anyway!


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    #29
    mikeecho
    Registered Users Posts: 5,071 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    punisher5112 wrote: »
    Honest question, why 2 separate station purchases???
    listermint wrote: »
    Why would anyone go to two different station's...


    Why didnt you but it all at the same place



    Just for clarifications sake

    Good question.

    I was using two fuel cards

    1 DCI and 1 Circle K

    Max if 100L per day on each.

    Now, thinking back, I should have just bought it all at Circle K.

    But then I wouldn't have noticed a difference in fuel colour.

    (.. and now you know.. one of the brand's is Circle K.)


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    #30
    mikeecho
    Registered Users Posts: 5,071 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    KCross wrote: »
    I see 4 different colours there. You can’t really tell anything through plastic.

    There can be differences anyway with additives that different providers put in so it might all be above board so your thread title is accurate anyway!

    4 different colours.. there is actually two colours, but the artificial light above is affecting the pic.


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    godtabh
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,204 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    mikeecho wrote: »
    No.. two different stations,
    Almost 100L bought from each, from a single pump at each.
    In one transaction , each time.

    And bought within minutes of each other

    (I have receipts to prove that 99L was bought in each station, only minutes apart)

    if they are from one pump in each station they should be the same colour shouldn't they? only variable is the containers.


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