Mission: Impossible - Fallout

Dr Brown · 08-02-2018 4:18am

Sad Professor wrote: »

And it gets better. Tom Cruise did his own helicopter stunt piloting! Including the downward spiral seen in the trailer.

I wonder how Cruise gets movie insurance ? when he risks his life doing these sort of mad stunts.

razorblunt · 08-02-2018 2:51pm

I'm intrigued by it. But Cavill's punches are bloody awful, the first one missed by a country mile. Poor editing.

Mr E · 16-05-2018 9:38am

Trailer 2 just released.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj3C6eV9E7k

Keyzer · 16-05-2018 9:45am

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I wonder what epic stunt Tom Cruise will do himself in this one

Rumour has it he's going to attempt this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xCPMK9nVuA

Slydice · 16-05-2018 11:52am

Mr E wrote: »

Trailer 2 just released.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj3C6eV9E7k

Ok, that looks cool! Feels like it has substance, action and a story!

Other notes:
- Theme song being used well!
- Henry Cavill looking well placed.

Also:

I'm jumping out a window

!

Slydice · 16-05-2018 4:10pm

That's gotta be

a nuke at the wedding scene

right?

Could be

a dream sequence

I guess

sxt · 21-05-2018 6:25pm

Mission Impossible >James Bond

Hande hoche! · 22-05-2018 10:12am

Have certainly enjoyed the last few mission impossible films more than the last several Bond releases.

pixelburp · 22-05-2018 10:45am

I think what helps is that Mission Impossible isn't as beholden to a rigid, commercial template as the Bond franchise; lets be honest, the latter is now little more than a slim excuse for Tom Ford, Rolex and a dozen other luxury brands to advertise in-front of a captive audience for 2 hours - wrapped around one of the thinnest non-characters in cinema.

Also, Mission Impossible hit upon a an accidental approach to let each movie be its own thing, with a small strand of continuity linking each film. In what other mainstream, blockbuster franchise could you have Brian DePalma, John Woo, JJ Abrams and Brad Bird all directing a film? Apart from the requisite death-defying stunt in the continued middle-age crisis of Tom Cruise, all the films are allowed exist as independent creative projects.

Slydice · 22-05-2018 3:21pm

Slydice · 03-06-2018 10:31pm

Because

Literally

Of course he did a HALO JUMP! :eek:

FunLover18 · 12-07-2018 10:30pm

Twitter responses are extremely positive. Might start my rewatch of the series this weekend.

FunLover18 · 12-07-2018 10:52pm

91 on metacritic.

johnny_ultimate · 12-07-2018 11:01pm

If you had have told me 15 years ago that the continuing Mission Impossible series would become the most reliable series for ludicrous, no-nonsense, thrilling action... I would have called you a goddamn liar.

But here we are: no more reliable summer thrills than Tom Cruise being a mad bastard for these gloriously dumb films.

SimonTemplar · 12-07-2018 11:23pm

FunLover18 wrote: »

Twitter responses are extremely positive. Might start my rewatch of the series this weekend.

I rewatched the series last month. It is all great except MI2. I know it is a cliche to say so but it really is rubbish and is the black sheep of the franchise. I love all the rest.

pixelburp · 12-07-2018 11:25pm

It's a franchise that by all accounts shouldn't still be here, yet has maintained a high reputation that's legitimately earned. My only quibble is that it's a shame McQuarrie has returned and they didn't continue the trend of each film getting a new director.

SimonTemplar · 12-07-2018 11:26pm

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

If you had have told me 15 years ago that the continuing Mission Impossible series would become the most reliable series for ludicrous, no-nonsense, thrilling action... I would have called you a goddamn liar.

But here we are: no more reliable summer thrills than Tom Cruise being a mad bastard for these gloriously dumb films.

I think the MI franchise has inherited that mantle from Bond. For most of that franchise, one of the main selling points of those movies were the insane stunts and unique thrilling action. I think MI has eclipsed Bond in that regard. I still think the last two Bonds were very good though and I would not be surprised if Q's more active role in the action was inspired by Simon Pegg's excellent addition to MI.

Sad Professor · 13-07-2018 12:02am

pixelburp wrote: »

It's a franchise that by all accounts shouldn't still be here, yet has maintained a high reputation that's legitimately earned. My only quibble is that it's a shame McQuarrie has returned and they didn't continue the trend of each film getting a new director.

It makes no difference since they stopped hiring auteurs after Woo, or at least stopped letting directors go wild as if they were making one of their own movies. I don't want to say Abrams Marvelised the franchise (though he has produced every film since III), but Bird and McQuarrie haven't moved far beyond the stylistic template he established. And tbh it's probably for the best.

johnny_ultimate · 13-07-2018 12:11am

Yep, there’s an awful lot to be said for perhaps the one major franchise that consistently favours old-fashioned, death-defying spectacle. Pretty much every other major series boasting these sorts of budgets are CG-a-ramas, even the good ones. But there’s an old school approach to the Mission Impossible films, matched by savvy directorial choices like De Palma, Abrams, Bird, McQuarrie and even Woo (although that was closest to a failed experiment) who all have their own unique eye for thrills even if they’re not quite out-and-out auteurs. Even as it settled into something more approaching a ‘house style’, there’s an enjoyably different texture to all the films from MI3 onwards even if they’re all from the same basic materials and fit snugly together.

The good sense for director choices is what sets them apart from Bond - there’s a certain persistent blandness to that series, including the better ones (but especially in cack like Die Another Day), that only Skyfall really properly addressed. That’s not a sense I get with MI, even with the aforementioned ‘house style’.

While CG is hardly a wholly evil tool - and I’m certain it’s used liberally in these films too - spectacle cinema these days is almost universally over-reliant on the...ahem... completely impossible. Here’s one series that takes a somewhat different tact - and even if they’re hardly masterpieces, it’s a shame there’s only the rare other film out there taking this endearing approach on this scale.

nix · 18-07-2018 11:18pm

I'm just back from it, caught a preview screening in the imax cineworld. No actual spoilers below, just my opinion on the movie without going deep, ill tag it just encase people don't want to be influenced prior to seeing it.

I didnt like it much,

very little to enjoy outside the action in this one, its just a rollercoaster ride of action sequences one after the other for 2 and a half hours, i actually had a headache walking out of it..

Some of the dialogue in the movie was just terrible, like whoever wrote it, wasnt a writer at all and just wrote out the most generic conversations just to link the endless action sequences together. It was literally non stop action wise, no give, kinda like the recent avengers movie but lacking any charm/humor/wit/creativity story telling wise.

Id give it a 2 out of 5.

AidoEirE · 18-07-2018 11:44pm

nix wrote: »

I'm just back from it, caught a preview screening in the imax cineworld. No actual spoilers below, just my opinion on the movie without going deep, ill tag it just encase people don't want to be influenced prior to seeing it.

I didnt like it much, very little to enjoy outside the action in this one, its just a rollercoaster ride of action sequences one after the other for 2 and a half hours, i actually had a headache walking out of it..

Some of the dialogue in the movie was just terrible, like whoever wrote it, wasnt a writer at all and just wrote out the most generic conversations just to link the endless action sequences together. It was literally non stop action wise, no give, kinda like the recent avengers movie but lacking any charm/humor/wit/creativity story telling wise.

Id give it a 2 out of 5.

Why do i always click the spoilers!

Thanks for the spoiler tag, i read it and looking forward to seeing it even more now. MI franchise is a good'n for me.

How do people get preview screenings of movies though, i wouldnt mind going to one sometime. I have no idea hiwd you'd go about it

razorblunt · 18-07-2018 11:59pm

SimonTemplar wrote: »

I rewatched the series last month. It is all great except MI2. I know it is a cliche to say so but it really is rubbish and is the black sheep of the franchise. I love all the rest.

I'm biased towards MI2, it was one of the first movies I went to see with mates as a group so possibly enjoyed it more than others, but it has some great moments but yeah ultimately flawed by Woo amongst other things (Thandie Newtown and the fact the villain's sidekick is better than the villain).

I'm really looking forward to this new one, the trailer makes Henry Cavill look killer too.

AidoEirE · 19-07-2018 12:04am

razorblunt wrote: »

I'm biased towards MI2, it was one of the first movies I went to see with mates as a group so possibly enjoyed it more than others, but it has some great moments but yeah ultimately flawed by Woo amongst other things (Thandie Newtown and the fact the villain's sidekick is better than the villain).

I'm really looking forward to this new one, the trailer makes Henry Cavill look killer too.

Agree, MI2 is the worst but all great franchise films need 1.
Theres probably poor bits in each movie but as a whole from where it started to 20years(?) ago to where it is now, its a fine set of films together and always enjoyable.

pixelburp · 19-07-2018 9:39am

Nix, you spoiler-texted so much we've no idea if you simply liked the movie or not

nix · 19-07-2018 1:24pm

pixelburp wrote: »

Nix, you spoiler-texted so much we've no idea if you simply liked the movie or not

lol ok fixed, i edited in a little teaser, but just to reiterate, there is nothing pertaining to the story or any particular events in my post. Just why i didnt like it much

:pac:

PlaneSpeeking · 19-07-2018 3:58pm

SimonTemplar wrote: »

I rewatched the series last month. It is all great except MI2. I know it is a cliche to say so but it really is rubbish and is the black sheep of the franchise. I love all the rest.

That the Thandie Newton one ? Weakest of the lot by far indeed.

If anyone wants my opinion (I'll not be offended at a rejection lol!) it's

MI 3 (Seymour Hoffman/JRM/Head bomb)
Original (Voight eats the screen alive!)
Rogue Nation - thought The Syndicate were a good idea
Ghost Protocol - can take it or leave it tbh but a fun way to pass a boring hour or so
MI 2

pixelburp · 19-07-2018 5:37pm

Ghost Protocol ranks high, purely by dint of the Burj Khalifa sequence, which has kinda set the watermark for 'Tom Cruise does a crazy stunt'. The rest of the film somewhat lost impetus by dint of a flat villain, though until the final act Brad Bird did great work generally - ditto Rogue Nation, which had a nice idea but no payoff in its villain.

Though for all the intensity of the stuntwork, I think one of the best and most intense scenes of the franchise was the interrogation sequence of MI:3 - mostly down to the calm menace of Hoffman, though to be fair Cruise does his part. In fact, Rogue Nation & the JJ Abrams sequel make for a good comparison, purely in terms of how important the right actor makes to any role, not least the villain of the piece. Hoffman commanded the screen, while Sean Harris was just ... there.

As mentioned elsewhere, the original is pretty quaint in comparison, more like a souped-up Cold War thriller than anything.

edit: this scene from MI:3 - it just had that bit more danger and tension than usual.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLNUIU7AzTg

S.M.B. · 19-07-2018 6:36pm

The 30 minutes of IMAX footage in Ghost Protocol elevates it to one of my favourite cinema experiences of the past decade. I dare not watch it again as I know it can't match it on any other screen.

On the flipside, MI3 was one of the only times I watched a sh*tty CAM version of a movie which was horrible. I should really revisit that movie.

nix · 19-07-2018 6:49pm

S.M.B. wrote: »

The 30 minutes of IMAX footage in Ghost Protocol elevates it to one of my favourite cinema experiences of the past decade. I dare not watch it again as I know it can't match it on any other screen.

On the flipside, MI3 was one of the only times I watched a sh*tty CAM version of a movie which was horrible. I should really revisit that movie.

Cam copy!? People actually watch them? First and Last time i watched a cam copy was Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles back in 1990 on vhs, it was enough to turn me off cam copies forever. :pac:

Gwynplaine · 19-07-2018 8:05pm

Trailer looks good. If only that eejit Simon Pegg wasn't in it.

Mission: Impossible - Fallout

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