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Now ye're talking - to an off-shore oil rig worker

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭nlrkjos


    Fabio wrote: »
    @nlrkjos - I can't seem to send you a PM but can you send me one. I'm pretty sure I know who you are and, if I'm thinking of the right person, then it'd be great to be back in touch with a friend :) .

    I sent you one about the CBR a few months back (it calfed after 180,000 miles!) and I just thought that the ignorant little fecker don't want to know me anymore:D:D:D

    I'll try again and if it don't work we'll just have to wake up wan them mods!!!!:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    nlrkjos wrote: »
    From the left...Floatel, cabins for 420+ workers,canteen also offices, middle, production platform currently under construction, and the drilling rig also used for accommodation 220 people.

    Gas pumped to shore, depth varies and it's covered in rock armour, flare stack burns off excess gasses.

    My god that is something else, there is no way I would have thought that 'small' rig would accomodate 420 workers. The other two rigs are massive in comparison.

    When you say the flare stack burns off excesses gases why are they excess, because the rig is pumping too fast for the pipeline or are there other gases extracted that are of no use so just get burned off? Have you ever stood near enough to the gas flare, must be a great bit of heat on a chilly winters day?!

    Also the gas being extracted- does that same gas power the entire rig at source or does it have to go onshore to be refined/made safe for use?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭nlrkjos


    Something like a death etc would be very difficult alright but overall the two weeks is certainly a nicer pattern than the 3 months on/off scenario though you don’t have the tax free benefits.

    Overall though very interesting reading and thanks for taking the time to answer.

    I wasn't trying to be smart with my answer but some authority has to control HSE, otherwise it would be a free for all, and with the safety record in our sector, we'er inclined to believe and trust them. Also I think you missed the point about cameras, some equipment on different rigs are "flash sensitive".

    As for deaths, a few months back over Christmas, a colleague of mine got news that his wife had taken her own life...he was stuck on board for 2 days before it was safe to evac him to land, then he had another 9 hours to get himself home, the company did send a "medic" with him! It kinda put all the money/conditions/free time into perspective for all of us that week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭nlrkjos


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    My god that is something else, there is no way I would have thought that 'small' rig would accomodate 420 workers. The other two rigs are massive in comparison.

    When you say the flare stack burns off excesses gases why are they excess, because the rig is pumping too fast for the pipeline or are there other gases extracted that are of no use so just get burned off? Have you ever stood near enough to the gas flare, must be a great bit of heat on a chilly winters day?!

    Also the gas being extracted- does that same gas power the entire rig at source or does it have to go onshore to be refined/made safe for use?

    The "small" rig is 30,000 tonne ! the other two are all equipment, the middle one has 90 cabins for when it starts production, then it's on it's own!

    Excess gas can result from "over-pressure" from the field, and when crude oil is being pumped, gas comes also and it has to go somewhere, with all the technology today, that flare is still lit with a flare gun !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    wow 30,000 tonnes that really is something else. Thanks again for all your responses, it is a really interesting AMA.


  • Posts: 8,856 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    nlrkjos wrote: »
    I A close relative of mine died while I was offshore and helicopters were grounded, times like that 2 weeks can be a long time.

    That's a real personal insight. Thanks for sharing. I couldn't think of any more questions to ask you but you just talking gives so much more insight as to this way of working and its impact. thanks!


  • Posts: 8,856 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    So just thought of one more question- what with conversation around "mobile phones" igniting fuel etc

    How exactly is the food cooked? Heat, sparks and all of that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭nlrkjos


    So just thought of one more question- what with conversation around "mobile phones" igniting fuel etc

    How exactly is the food cooked? Heat, sparks and all of that?

    Canteen facilities are firewall protected from production areas,these are explosion proof also, sprinkler pipes are titanium so they will be the last things to collapse in the event of fire. These were lessons hard learned from Piper Alpha and Alexander Kjelland and a few other disasters...KEEP LIVING QUARTERS SAFE in case sh1t happens !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 961 ✭✭✭Conchir


    Very interesting, thanks for giving your time!

    I knew a guy in Canada who worked on oil rigs there, back in 2015 he was out of a job for a good few months when the oil price dropped. He had to move home and get a temporary job while he waited to see what would happen with the market.

    Is your job sensitive to gas prices? Or is there always enough demand to keep you going?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭nlrkjos


    Conchir wrote: »
    Very interesting, thanks for giving your time!

    I knew a guy in Canada who worked on oil rigs there, back in 2015 he was out of a job for a good few months when the oil price dropped. He had to move home and get a temporary job while he waited to see what would happen with the market.

    Is your job sensitive to gas prices? Or is there always enough demand to keep you going?

    I'm on the construction side of things mostly, so it takes 4-5 years to plan and build one of these feckers and I'm in on planning, once started it will be finished because oil/gas always rebounds on price. Never really been out of work, but it did slow down once or twice... the rig I'm on now is being built since 2015 Korea for 2 years then yard stay in Norway and its at least a year away from oil on deck...then comes modifications, commissioning, improvements and start up proper... I will probable see another 18-20 months on this yoke, and already there are plans in train for the next project, that will most likely see the back of me.

    It's one thing building these but soon most of the work will be de-commissioning end of life platforms. I even heard that some crowd are trying to buy a de-commissioned rig and use the LQ as a fishing platform for "adventure fishermen and divers", could be a future business for somebody. The canteen and cabins are already there:rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,012 ✭✭✭stop animal cruelty


    This sounds like a stupid question but here it goes..... Does the Rig float or is there some kind of pole holding it up underneath??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭nlrkjos


    This sounds like a stupid question but here it goes..... Does the Rig float or is there some kind of pole holding it up underneath??

    sits on a jacket....stilts !! on the sea bedml.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭nlrkjos


    https://twitter.com/equinor/status/1022834226566254593

    thats the yoke I'm on now, that lift was some experience, just to see it all happen and see 3 years work put in place in 4 days was amazing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭nlrkjos


    Just in case folk think it's all abed of roses, I was there when this happened.


    Six killed in crane incident at Samsung Heavy shipyard

    Six people were killed and over 20 injured on Monday after a crane collapsed at Samsung Heavy Industries’ shipyard in Geoje, South Korea, where modules for Total’s Martin Linge topsides are being built.

    According to Total’s statement on Monday, the accident happened at 07:45 Norwegian time and no one from the Total project organization was among the dead and injured.

    Following the incident, all work at the Samsung yard was closed.

    “We know that a crane fell down on the wellbay module for the Martin Linge platform. The cause of the accident is still unknown,” says Leif Harald Halvorsen, Communication Manager at Total E&P Norge.

    Total also added that the site was closed and the local authorities and police started their investigations.

    The first representatives from the management at Total E&P Norge and the Martin Linge project headed to the site on Monday to give support to the project organization and the main contractor, the consortium Technip/Samsung Heavy Industries.

    In its latest update, issued on Monday at around 5 pm Norwegian time, Total could not confirm the number of killed or injured in the accident.

    However, Reuters reported that six have been killed and more than 20 injured in the incident. Total and Samsung told Reuters that it was not clear on how the incident might affect the delivery of the Martin Linge platform, which was expected to start producing oil and gas in the North Sea in 2018.

    Total E&P Norge is the operator of the Martin Linge field, which is located offshore Norway near the British part of the North Sea, about 42 kilometers west of the Oseberg field.

    The Martin Linge development plan includes integrated wellhead, production, and accommodation platform with a jacket, in addition to a floating, storage and offloading (FSO) vessel used for oil storage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,012 ✭✭✭stop animal cruelty


    nlrkjos wrote: »
    This sounds like a stupid question but here it goes..... Does the Rig float or is there some kind of pole holding it up underneath??

    sits on a jacket....stilts !! on the sea bedml.jpg

    Roughly how far down is the sea bed? I find it kind of unbelievable something like oil rigs exist and function in the middle of the ocean. It's incredible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,861 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    Great AMA. Very informative.

    Did you ever watch the programme Roughnecks on bbc years ago? Was it anyway accurate?

    Have you ever seen a full on fist fight there. Living in close proximity must produce the odd bout of "cabin fever".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭nlrkjos


    Roughly how far down is the sea bed? I find it kind of unbelievable something like oil rigs exist and function in the middle of the ocean. It's incredible.

    water depth is 120m jacket is 30 m above that, so 150m or 490 ft in old money :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭nlrkjos


    mfceiling wrote: »
    Great AMA. Very informative.

    Did you ever watch the programme Roughnecks on bbc years ago? Was it anyway accurate?

    Have you ever seen a full on fist fight there. Living in close proximity must produce the odd bout of "cabin fever".

    must have made great T.V....a bit like Game Of Thrones, based on fact :rolleyes:

    No fights, guys are tuned in to what they do and the life it involves, assh*les are weeded out very quickly and given their marching orders!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭nlrkjos


    Do you encounter much situational homosexual activity? Like the lads in prison. Straight on the outside but turn to their fellow man on the inside for "comfort"?

    Have you every dabbled yourself?
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭nlrkjos


    2 lads from my area worked on the rigs in Alaska, big money but like yourself they well earned it.

    always wanted to try up there, but difficult scene to break into, money was savage but conditions were terrible, gone too old for that sh1t now !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,622 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    Have you ever been in a situation where you thought you were a goner?

    Do you have colleagues who have survived several ‘**** me’ moments?

    Are there superstitions aboard the rig?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭nlrkjos


    thunderdog wrote: »
    Would you get many geologists on site? In a previous life I worked as a geologist (now in a different field), most of the geologists work is done prior to drilling, but interested to know if you’ve come across any geologists on site

    No, them boys is gone years before us muck savages turn up, I believe most of them work on seismic boats.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭nlrkjos


    circadian wrote: »
    Is car insurance still mental for rig workers?

    Never drove a car in my life, dangerous fecken yokes !!!!! my motorbike insurance is OK, just the same as me brother and he works as a gardener ! so I would presume car would be similar.


  • Registered Users Posts: 50 ✭✭grounderfill


    Have you ever watched the movie Deep Water Horizon? Do you believe that risks, such as the lack of pressure tests on the well of the deepwater horizon not carried out properly, or the lack of for that matter, is something that you believe still occurs, thereby putting you and those on the ground at risk of death just for the sake of profit?
    Have you ever come across where short cuts have been made for the sake of money (on the rig obviouly - plenty off the rig inland)?
    Is there a culture of not squealing if someone sees staff making safety breaches?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭nlrkjos


    Can you give me a bit of actual workers thoughts on the EC225 helicopter?
    I know the north sea unions wont allow their workers to be transferred on them, but are the workers as adamant?



    Elaborate a wee bit. We hate these yokes not just because of safety issues. the seating arrangement is cramped, some guys are facing the "wrong way" which can be disorientating, they rattle like fck, and the actual hover before landing can shake your fillings loose ! in general they are just not comfortable to ride in. I was "shuttling" for a full rotation every day from one rig to another in the 225, and never once felt safe or comfortable.The S92 for whatever reason just feels good, especially when its an hour out and in. Hope this answer your Q?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭nlrkjos


    Have you ever been in a situation where you thought you were a goner?

    Do you have colleagues who have survived several ‘**** me’ moments?

    Are there superstitions aboard the rig?

    Yes, once, on a floatel in 2012, we were blown 48 miles from where we should have been, I think it was the worst storm in North Sea for years, we were in survival suits and ready for lifeboats for 18 hours !!!! I have a video of it somewhere taken from another platform...must try and root that out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭nlrkjos


    Have you ever watched the movie Deep Water Horizon? Do you believe that risks, such as the lack of pressure tests on the well of the deepwater horizon not carried out properly, or the lack of for that matter, is something that you believe still occurs, thereby putting you and those on the ground at risk of death just for the sake of profit?
    Have you ever come across where short cuts have been made for the sake of money (on the rig obviouly - plenty off the rig inland)?
    Is there a culture of not squealing if someone sees staff making safety breaches?

    America is a whole different world when it comes to oil/gas, typical U.S, the mighty dollar! No offence to any US citizens on here, but they are full of sh1t.

    No, safety breaches, even minor are reported, and it's never even thought of as "squealing", some people even report their own breaches, if it can be a lesson learned.. accidents hurt, safety don't!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 508 ✭✭✭d8491prj5boyvg


    What are the chances of you dying and is the money worth it? If there is a real risk of injury/death, would you do it forever? It seems like a job I'd do for a few years, save like hell, then stop taking the risks when I am older


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Roughly how far down is the sea bed? I find it kind of unbelievable something like oil rigs exist and function in the middle of the ocean. It's incredible.

    I'm feel the same, oil rigs and the construction of them out in rough seas that are constantly changing is an amazing engineering feat, its absolutely fascinating.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Have you ever lived in a van?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭Stovepipe


    The gas "flare" is also burning off toxic gases that come up with the oil or gas and cannot be shipped inland for domestic uses. The flare stack, apart from being on a long boom, is also fenced off at deck level, monitored by CCTV and has several water cannons pointed at it. That area of the deck is also off limits to routine access, it's by permit or special permission only. In the case of all other work, on any deck, no-one goes anywhere or starts any kind of job unless they have a permit issued by their office (welding or electrical work especially) and notified to the deck operator (a person who is the manager of each deck). All the different trades must know who's doing what, so that, for example, if you need a motor or a pump shut off for maintenance, the electricians must know which control box or control panel has to be shut down and padlocked off and it is then not reactivated until all parties are made aware and agree to it. Also, in the case of very large rigs, each person entering a deck had to log in with the operator and then log out as you went off the deck. As an aside, one rig that I was on, all of the deck operators were Pakistani and most of the mechs were Indian, so they wouldnt talk to each other. Several times, I had to intervene to get things done as they were at a standstill, verbally refighting the 1971 war. Ultimately, management shifted people aroudn to get around this but Paks and Indians always stayed apart. as for living together in close proximity, it was an unwritten rule that people made a special effort to get on, because you knew that you could end up in an emergency situation where your life depended on strangers. If there were fights, the parties involved were usually immediately lifted off, at their companies' expense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,656 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    Interesting AMA thanks a lot. One thing that sounded a bit weird. No mobile phones because of sparks / fire hazard but you're allowed to smoke?

    Edit: LOL never mind, about ten people asked the question since :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭nlrkjos


    Stovepipe wrote: »
    The gas "flare" is also burning off toxic gases that come up with the oil or gas and cannot be shipped inland for domestic uses. The flare stack, apart from being on a long boom, is also fenced off at deck level, monitored by CCTV and has several water cannons pointed at it. That area of the deck is also off limits to routine access, it's by permit or special permission only. In the case of all other work, on any deck, no-one goes anywhere or starts any kind of job unless they have a permit issued by their office (welding or electrical work especially) and notified to the deck operator (a person who is the manager of each deck). All the different trades must know who's doing what, so that, for example, if you need a motor or a pump shut off for maintenance, the electricians must know which control box or control panel has to be shut down and padlocked off and it is then not reactivated until all parties are made aware and agree to it. Also, in the case of very large rigs, each person entering a deck had to log in with the operator and then log out as you went off the deck. As an aside, one rig that I was on, all of the deck operators were Pakistani and most of the mechs were Indian, so they wouldnt talk to each other. Several times, I had to intervene to get things done as they were at a standstill, verbally refighting the 1971 war. Ultimately, management shifted people aroudn to get around this but Paks and Indians always stayed apart. as for living together in close proximity, it was an unwritten rule that people made a special effort to get on, because you knew that you could end up in an emergency situation where your life depended on strangers. If there were fights, the parties involved were usually immediately lifted off, at their companies' expense.

    That's a good one with the Indians/Pakistanis, I never had to deal with that crap, bad enough between Swedes and Danes!!!! PTW system we also use but as its construction it would never be as tightly controlled as a production platform. On the flare gas, I see now where some scientists are discovering new forms of life in crude and gas deposits. We could have a "jurassic park" in real life if these buckos have their way !!

    On the dying question...if you were stacking shelves in a supermarket, you could be killed by a falling can of beans, all jobs have their own risks and they are all relative to what you do, and what you are trained to do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭Stovepipe


    Never had a problem with Scandies but did encounter a few Union Jack wavers who disliked "Paddies". Had no grief with Norn Iron people and they were easier to get on with than the Little Englanders. Our worst ganger was a Swiss guy who appeared to hate everyone who wasn't Swiss and especially hated Germans, of which we had a few on one site, until one of the Germans grabbed him by the scruff and threatened to throw him off the top of the platform, if he didnt calm down. Things got quieter after that. I always reckoned that a year out on rigs and sites was equivalent to about 2 years worth of work at home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭nlrkjos


    Stovepipe wrote: »
    Never had a problem with Scandies but did encounter a few Union Jack wavers who disliked "Paddies". Had no grief with Norn Iron people and they were easier to get on with than the Little Englanders. Our worst ganger was a Swiss guy who appeared to hate everyone who wasn't Swiss and especially hated Germans, of which we had a few on one site, until one of the Germans grabbed him by the scruff and threatened to throw him off the top of the platform, if he didnt calm down. Things got quieter after that. I always reckoned that a year out on rigs and sites was equivalent to about 2 years worth of work at home.

    Yeah, met a few of them "squaddies" over the years, hunt in packs, quiet boys on their own...or when you tell them you know where they live !!! It takes it's toll offshore alright, folk at home think you have a great life with four weeks free....they don't see the two weeks on board


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭Lurching


    nlrkjos wrote: »
    Can you give me a bit of actual workers thoughts on the EC225 helicopter?
    I know the north sea unions wont allow their workers to be transferred on them, but are the workers as adamant?



    Elaborate a wee bit. We hate these yokes not just because of safety issues. the seating arrangement is cramped, some guys are facing the "wrong way" which can be disorientating, they rattle like fck, and the actual hover before landing can shake your fillings loose ! in general they are just not comfortable to ride in. I was "shuttling" for a full rotation every day from one rig to another in the 225, and never once felt safe or comfortable.The S92 for whatever reason just feels good, especially when its an hour out and in. Hope this answer your Q?

    Yep, thanks for elaborating. I work in the industry and was curious to hear it from the actual people who were expected to fly in them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,043 ✭✭✭bilbot79


    Are hookers brought to the rig on boats that have casinos on them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭nlrkjos


    Starting to get silly now. Probably best to close this AMA, those on weekend release from a home for the bewildered are arriving.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,012 ✭✭✭stop animal cruelty


    Thanks for your time, very interesting.


  • Boards.ie Employee Posts: 12,597 ✭✭✭✭✭Boards.ie: Niamh
    Boards.ie Community Manager


    Thanks so much nlrkjos for taking so much time to answer loads of questions. What's normal life to you is extraordinary and fascinating to others!

    If anyone else has a interesting job they'd like to do an AMA about, PM me! Thanks all :)


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