Was Osama Bin Laden a patsy?

The Nal wrote: »

Yes. This is common knowledge and in all the history books about him. Amzed you don't know this. Really basic common knowledge.

"George Washington is a hard master, very severe, a hard husband, a hard father, a hard governor. From his childhood he always ruled and ruled severely. He was first brought up to govern slaves."

Thomas Jefferson, 1799



It was always studied and argued but now we know its true thanks to DNA analysis which didn't exist until a few decades ago.





Genuinely astonishing how people can be so wrong so often yet keep posting wrong things.

I'm bringing attention to "history" books.....books that paint people and events in a light that scores points or pads a narrative. What part of that escaped you?

Did not Reagan refer to the Mujihadeen as the "Jeffersons of Afghanistan"?

If the rape and torture and enslavement was what he was referring to then he might have a point, except that I think he was trying to allude that they were shaking off the yoke of Soviet intervention the same way that Jefferson and Washington did the same to vanquish the Redcoats.

20 years later, the US has been roundly defeated in Afghanistan. They will leave this year having accomplished nothing. But the history books will run off the print press reading that their 20 year joke of an occupation improved matters. I would guess that most of the US cannon fodder holed up in bases in Afghanistan weren't ene born in 2011 and those that were were still in nappies or short pants.

The US wanted Bin Laden to be handed over for 9/11 and the Taliban said "No problem.....show us the proof". The US said "fcuk you we're going to assault and wreck your country". And now they're going home, in humility and defeat. How easy it would have been to just provide the proof back 20 years ago..

The Nal wrote: »

The part where you said you won't read about Washingtons slaves in history books. Its been written about for centuries.

The rest of your post is deflective waffle. History will show Afghanistan and Iraq as a spectacular failure. "History books" have already been written about this.

Will you read about that in school history books or in books that nobody wants to read? You know the big tomes sandwiched up on the top left shelf of B&N?


What history books have you read outside of your Inter Cert? Few, I would imagine.



Was Jefferson's rapes, corruption and cowardice ever codified in a history book? Certainly not one that will ever be used to teach.

But once again, you are trying to derail and pull the debate to the realms of foggy nettlehood.


You claimed that I said that academia was a conspiracy. I said no such thing. I mentioned falsehoods or omissions. Nothing more.