2020/21 NBA season + Olympics

ButtersSuki · 11-04-2021 11:02pm

jk23 wrote: »

The nets should have found a way to keep Jarret Allen, he is a great young player...playing very well for Cleveland and was doing a solid job for the nets before he was included in the harden trade.

Drummond looks a great fit with the Lakers especially when AD and LeBron come back as well

They tried everything to be fair.

ButtersSuki · 11-04-2021 11:03pm

Somehow missed it that Ksnter pulled down 30 rebounds last night....wow.

Corvo · 12-04-2021 2:59pm

Kyrie out again for personal reasons.

Carcharodon · 13-04-2021 5:59am

Steph Curry passes Wilt Chamberlain as Warriors all time points scorer, pretty remarkable achievement, arguably the greatest shooter of all time but he can score from any part of the floor, he gets to the basket a lot. He is such an incredible person in and off the court.

Murray looked to have a bad injury, knee went out as he went to basket, be surprised if he plays again this season

Top Dog · 13-04-2021 9:21am

Carcharodon wrote: »

Murray looked to have a bad injury, knee went out as he went to basket, be surprised if he plays again this season

Initial reports suggest it might have been a hyperextension of his left knee. That was the injury that took Embid out for a month wasn't it?

ButtersSuki · 13-04-2021 11:16am

Top Dog wrote: »

Initial reports suggest it might have been a hyperextension of his left knee. That was the injury that took Embid out for a month wasn't it?

Haven’t read any reports but that looks a lot worse than a hyperextended knee.
Shame for Denver, they were looking very good with the addition of Gordon and what he was bringing defensively in particular.

ButtersSuki · 13-04-2021 11:34am

Hmm. Was just reading that they had rested Murray for the last few games due to knee soreness. That is not a good look for the Denver medical team if they cleared him, though I don’t know the whole facts of course and also as a former player it’s very hard not to play in big games even if you know you’re not 100%. The decision to play could have been his.

I’ve looked at it a few times now. Based on the fact that it was a non-contact play and the way he went down I’d be inclined to think that’s a torn ACL.

Corvo · 13-04-2021 4:08pm

ButtersSuki wrote: »

Hmm. Was just reading that they had rested Murray for the last few games due to knee soreness. That is not a good look for the Denver medical team if they cleared him, though I don’t know the whole facts of course and also as a former player it’s very hard not to play in big games even if you know you’re not 100%. The decision to play could have been his.

I’ve looked at it a few times now. Based on the fact that it was a non-contact play and the way he went down I’d be inclined to think that’s a torn ACL.

Just confirmed and you are unfortunately correct.

Huge loss for Denver

ButtersSuki · 13-04-2021 11:41pm

Corvo wrote: »

Just confirmed and you are unfortunately correct.

Huge loss for Denver

Just read that. Awful for him and Denver, a team I’ve seen many times in the flesh (work-related).

Had a suspicion the second I saw it from the way it gave way and his reaction.

Carcharodon · 15-04-2021 3:27pm

Watched OKC last night, wow, they are pretty bad, that franchise might struggle for a long time, you can have as many draft picks as you want but no superstars want to go there, get them back to Seattle I say !!

15-04-2021 3:32pm

Bulls should just pack it in.

Thunder can come to Chicago.

ButtersSuki · 15-04-2021 5:35pm

Just watched the full end of hogans sequence in the Mavs Grizz game. Grayson Allen (shooting 91% from the line this season) missed 2 FTs with 2.2 seconds left, then Luka hits a crazy off balance 3 to win it at the buzzer.

Whilst I do love Luka, the rule where you can advance the ball 3/4s of the court by calling a time out is just wrong IMO.

jk23 · 15-04-2021 5:41pm

ButtersSuki wrote: »

Just watched the full end of hogans sequence in the Mavs Grizz game. Grayson Allen (shooting 91% from the line this season) missed 2 FTs with 2.2 seconds left, then Luka hits a crazy off balance 3 to win it at the buzzer.

Whilst I do love Luka, the rule where you can advance the ball 3/4s of the court by calling a time out is just wrong IMO.

Doncic is unreal though if he had two all stars with him on the mavs I would fancy them to get to conference finals this year. Porzingis has gone back a bit since his Knicks days, but Luka is the best young player I have seen since LeBron in 03

2smiggy · 15-04-2021 8:19pm

https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/1382708221257859075

ButtersSuki · 15-04-2021 11:27pm

2smiggy wrote: »

https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/1382708221257859075

Jesus. Came on to post this. He’s been playing very well for Brooklyn since he joined. So sad things are ending this way for him.

17-04-2021 12:11am

Looking forward to the Clippers and 76ers.

CHOO-CHOO 76ERS ALL THE WAY TO THE CHAMPIONSHIP!

Corvo · 17-04-2021 9:06am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Looking forward to the Clippers and 76ers.

CHOO-CHOO 76ERS ALL THE WAY TO THE CHAMPIONSHIP!

I don’t think there’s any stopping Embild. Whether the rest of the team show up in the play offs will be vital. The inevitable game against the Nets will be circled on my calendar

eagle eye · 17-04-2021 10:49am

Corvo wrote:

I donâ€™t think thereâ€™s any stopping Embild. Whether the rest of the team show up in the play offs will be vital. The inevitable game against the Nets will be circled on my calendar

He's turning into a phemom, seemed to go to a different level again in the playoffs last season, no stopping the man.

ButtersSuki · 17-04-2021 11:08am

eagle eye wrote: »

He's turning into a phemom, seemed to go to a different level again in the playoffs last season, no stopping the man.

You mean when they got swept by Boston?

He’s playing incredibly well, but how far Philly goes depends on Simmons, Harris et al, not on Embiid.

Not hating btw, I’ve placed money on Embiid to be MVP, but I still have my doubts about Philly, esp. v the Bucks and the Nets.

eagle eye · 17-04-2021 11:45am

ButtersSuki wrote:

You mean when they got swept by Boston?

Yes, he was incredible in that series, unfortunately for him the rest were poor.

ButtersSuki wrote:

Heâ€™s playing incredibly well, but how far Philly goes depends on Simmons, Harris et al, not on Embiid.

Yes, it's a team game, there is no player that can donut in his own.

ButtersSuki wrote:

Not hating btw, Iâ€™ve placed money on Embiid to be MVP, but I still have my doubts about Philly, esp. v the Bucks and the Nets.

I like his chances, it's been impossible for him on a poor enough team the last couple of years but the season they have a real decent team.
Kind of a bit like Beal, if he had a team around him he'd have to be a first team all-star I think.

ButtersSuki · 18-04-2021 6:34am

Boston have quietly been getting very good at the right time lately. They’re 9-3 since the trade deadline, which seems to have gone completely under the radar.

Dallas slipping a little lately and really likely have lost the chance to catch the lakers, which is a shame as they have them at gone twice this week or next from memory. Win both of those however and we have a race.

Portland too have missed chances to close the gap.

pjohnson · 19-04-2021 9:54am

When Zion sees the basket he becomes a fcuking heat seeking missile.

Coneygree · 19-04-2021 11:08am

pjohnson wrote: »

When Zion sees the basket he becomes a fcuking heat seeking missile.

If he develops some sort of a shot he's going to be a nightmare.

ButtersSuki · 20-04-2021 5:38am

Steph again, unreal. He’s on some run since Weisman went out. And yet still creating for others. Imagine if he was gunning, and Kerr wasn’t taking him out of games?

ButtersSuki · 20-04-2021 10:55am

If any of you have the Disney channel/app they’ve added a load of documentaries under the Star Channel, incl. The Fab Five and Jordan Rides the Bus.

I know most of you regulars here will have seen them but maybe some haven’t. The 30 for 30 documentaries are always good no matter what the sport.

2smiggy · 20-04-2021 1:06pm

Celtics were missing a few last night, but a bad loss against the Bulls. Especially with the other teams close to them all picking up wins recently.

ButtersSuki · 21-04-2021 4:32pm

I saw a line somewhere this morning that on this current 11 game run Steph has made more 3s than every other NBA team (team! Not player!) with the exception of Dallas.

I haven’t checked it, but if that is true, it’s just insane, esp. as you consider how many threes are being shot now

Coneygree · 21-04-2021 6:27pm

The tear he's on at the moment is obscene, even for him. A great stat I saw earlier was that it he shot 500 more 3s from now, bricked every one he'd still have a better 3p% than Ray Allen.

I still find it hard to warm to watching him play. There have been several players with cheat codes abilities in the league and you just to have to accept it when they wreck your team and smile. It is the same with Steph but I just get so annoyed by it compared to when other all time greats go off on one. When he's feeling it and he's spamming the behind the back and throwing it up from deep and swishing it over and over it is the most infuriating thing ever.

He's obviously changed the league and the game, and for the better in my opinion but I do wonder if the game continues to go down the line of chucking threes will my enjoyment for the game continue to dwindle. I support the Hawks and Trae is a great player and our key to success but he'd be last on the starting 5 of my favourite players to watch.

ButtersSuki · 21-04-2021 6:44pm

Coneygree wrote: »

The tear he's on at the moment is obscene, even for him. A great stat I saw earlier was that it he shot 500 more 3s from now, bricked every one he'd still have a better 3p% than Ray Allen.

I still find it hard to warm to watching him play. There have been several players with cheat codes abilities in the league and you just to have to accept it when they wreck your team and smile. It is the same with Steph but I just get so annoyed by it compared to when other all time greats go off on one. When he's feeling it and he's spamming the behind the back and throwing it up from deep and swishing it over and over it is the most infuriating thing ever.

He's obviously changed the league and the game, and for the better in my opinion but I do wonder if the game continues to go down the line of chucking threes will my enjoyment for the game continue to dwindle. I support the Hawks and Trae is a great player and our key to success but he'd be last on the starting 5 of my favourite players to watch.

I need to sit down before I reply to that fully. You’re entitled to your opinion but just wow at so much of that.

Gregk961 · 21-04-2021 7:08pm

Coneygree wrote: »

The tear he's on at the moment is obscene, even for him. A great stat I saw earlier was that it he shot 500 more 3s from now, bricked every one he'd still have a better 3p% than Ray Allen.

I still find it hard to warm to watching him play. There have been several players with cheat codes abilities in the league and you just to have to accept it when they wreck your team and smile. It is the same with Steph but I just get so annoyed by it compared to when other all time greats go off on one. When he's feeling it and he's spamming the behind the back and throwing it up from deep and swishing it over and over it is the most infuriating thing ever.

He's obviously changed the league and the game, and for the better in my opinion but I do wonder if the game continues to go down the line of chucking threes will my enjoyment for the game continue to dwindle. I support the Hawks and Trae is a great player and our key to success but he'd be last on the starting 5 of my favourite players to watch.

I'm not sure if I'm understanding you correctly, are you saying Curry draining contested three pointers upsets you? If he was inside the line would it be better? Do you think Steph spends the game hammering up 3s and nothing else?

I just cant make sense of any of your post to be honest.

Coneygree · 21-04-2021 7:36pm

Gregk961 wrote: »

I'm not sure if I'm understanding you correctly, are you saying Curry draining contested three pointers upsets you? If he was inside the line would it be better? Do you think Steph spends the game hammering up 3s and nothing else?

I just cant make sense of any of your post to be honest.

It's nothing to do with me not appreciating Curry or how he gets his stats. He's one of the best 20-30 players ever, what he did for the prime Warriors was incredible and nobody in recent times has has changed the game like him, however he would be well down the league in players I enjoy watching. He's a great player, a great shooter and a great playmaker, I just can't warm to him. Seeing Kawhi, Durant, LeBron, Harden et al. wreck your team is never a nice sight but I enjoy watching those players go about it. I appreciate Steph no less than them but I just don't enjoy watching him do so. And when players are on fire nobody tilts me more than Steph, which is probably more of a compliment than an insult. Lillard is another example. Great player, just don't enjoy watching him.

21-04-2021 7:39pm

Iv no idea how you can enjoy watching harden more than steph tbh

Gregk961 · 21-04-2021 7:50pm

Coneygree wrote: »

It's nothing to do with me not appreciating Curry or how he gets his stats. He's one of the best 20-30 players ever, what he did for the prime Warriors was incredible and nobody in recent times has has changed the game like him, however he would be well down the league in players I enjoy watching. He's a great player, a great shooter and a great playmaker, I just can't warm to him. Seeing Kawhi, Durant, LeBron, Harden et al. wreck your team is never a nice sight but I enjoy watching those players go about it. I appreciate Steph no less than them but I just don't enjoy watching him do so. And when players are on fire nobody tilts me more than Steph, which is probably more of a compliment than an insult. Lillard is another example. Great player, just don't enjoy watching him.

Yeah I just plain dont agree on this one! I cant figure how anybody can like basketball but not enjoy Curry.

eagle eye · 21-04-2021 8:03pm

I kind of get what he is saying. It's like I live players who go to the basket hard. Zion is so entertaining for me.
I appreciate Steph too and look on in awe at what he does but I do get more entertainment from a Jordan, Kobe, Lebron who go hard to the basket.

ButtersSuki · 21-04-2021 8:15pm

Eden Kind Manger wrote: »

Iv no idea how you can enjoy watching harden more than steph tbh

This x 1000. There was one day a couple of years ago and Harden and Curry both went for 50+on the same day. Harden was some of the most boring basketball you could imagine. Steph's by comparison was a joy to watch.

I will never get the hatred from Steph - mainly from LeBron stans, and other players. His movement is a joy to behold, he is a team player (despite the individual stats), and always plays with a smile on his face. The only thing I dislike about his game is the goofy dancing.

For such a relatively small guy his driving ability is incredible, as is his handle. His passing is also elite. He's so much more than just a shooter.

I honestly cannot understand how anyone who likes basketball could not like watching Steph Curry play.

chopperbyrne · 22-04-2021 7:26am

The Knicks are on an eight game win streak, and are up to fourth in the conference.

jk23 · 22-04-2021 10:09pm

I don't know why Brooklyn are favourite to win it all with bookmakers this year, yes they have 3 of the Top 10 players in the NBA but they have all had injury or personal issues this year.

I can't see anyone but the Lakers winning this year. Drummond is a serious addition a younger more mobile version of Dwight last year. You have the sixth man of the year in Harrell and Dennis was the year before I think?

Say Brooklyn and the Lakers get to the finals..who picks up who and what two matchups decides the series?..

Corvo · 22-04-2021 10:53pm

jk23 wrote: »

I don't know why Brooklyn are favourite to win it all with bookmakers this year, yes they have 3 of the Top 10 players in the NBA but they have all had injury or personal issues this year.

I can't see anyone but the Lakers winning this year. Drummond is a serious addition a younger more mobile version of Dwight last year. You have the sixth man of the year in Harrell and Dennis was the year before I think?

Say Brooklyn and the Lakers get to the finals..who picks up who and what two matchups decides the series?..

Bookies being bookies, they have to err on the side of caution. Yes, there are lots of reasons to think the Nets will fail, but the simple fact is that if all 3 get fit and click to any certain extent then it’s over.

If I had 10 grand now would I place it on the Nets? No. I think Philly can cause problems, so can the Bucks and if they have to go through two gruelling series with both then they still probably have to face a fully revamped Lakers or a Clippers side out to prove something.

jk23 · 22-04-2021 10:56pm

Corvo wrote: »

Bookies being bookies, they have to err on the side of caution. Yes, there are lots of reasons to think the Nets will fail, but the simple fact is that if all 3 get fit and click to any certain extent then it’s over.

If I had 10 grand now would I place it on the Nets? No. I think Philly can cause problems, so can the Bucks and if they have to go through two gruelling series with both then they still probably have to face a fully revamped Lakers or a Clippers side out to prove something.

I can see Philly beating them in 6/7 just because they have no one to guard Embiid and they have underrated shooters in Green, Curry and Korkmaz....

Any chance of an upset in the West? I like Utah but they always come up small in the playoffs even though they have a nicely balanced roster...

Corvo · 22-04-2021 11:45pm

jk23 wrote: »

I can see Philly beating them in 6/7 just because they have no one to guard Embiid and they have underrated shooters in Green, Curry and Korkmaz....

Any chance of an upset in the West? I like Utah but they always come up small in the playoffs even though they have a nicely balanced roster...

I love Embild. I think he’ll rip them to shreds. But the rest need to turn up too. It’ll be an interesting series but as I said, if Nets click, it’s over.

I think injuries have taken their toll on the league (which needs a whole different discussion)

I’m really high on the Clippers though. No one is really giving them much time (media wise). If they can catch the Lakers prior to them getting to full health then who knows.

ButtersSuki · 23-04-2021 7:20am

ButtersSuki wrote: »

Boston have quietly been getting very good at the right time lately. They’re 9-3 since the trade deadline, which seems to have gone completely under the radar.

Dallas slipping a little lately and really likely have lost the chance to catch the lakers, which is a shame as they have them at gone twice this week or next from memory. Win both of those however and we have a race.

Portland too have missed chances to close the gap.

Dallas beat LA last night to pull it back to 3 behind. They play them again next. Win that and it’s two. They’ll really regret some of their very bad losses to inferior teams lately if they don’t catch them.

LuckyLloyd · 23-04-2021 9:00am

I think you can have subjective opinions on which players you prefer, that's okay. Extending that to trying to denigrate their objective production and greatness is a different matter.

I prefer players who physically dominate their opponents, and I appreciate great defense. As a consequence, I wouldn't be such a fan of Curry, though I fully accept his greatness at the same time. I think he's beloved sometimes because he is a physical underdog - but the NBA is no place for hope.

ButtersSuki · 25-04-2021 11:16pm

Dallas have closed the gap on LA and have the second easiest strength of schedule finish to the season. They’d be ahead now if they hadn’t lost stupid games lately (Cavs, Rockets etc), could still catch them but probably unlikely, edd as ping LBJ comes back soon.

Portland in trouble late in the 4th as I type this against Memphis which will leave them 1/2 game ahead in the standing BUT they play them again before the end of the season.

Interesting times!

ButtersSuki · 26-04-2021 1:24pm

LeBron James has come out with some pretty bizarre race baiting comments in recent weeks that would cause a meltdown in the media if a white athlete were to say the exact same thing about any other race. A white athlete would be cancelled immediately were they to say the same things, and yet he seems to be getting a relatively free pass. Very strange.

26-04-2021 3:42pm

ButtersSuki wrote: »

LeBron James has come out with some pretty bizarre race baiting comments in recent weeks that would cause a meltdown in the media if a white athlete were to say the exact same thing about any other race. A white athlete would be cancelled immediately were they to say the same things, and yet he seems to be getting a relatively free pass. Very strange.

It's possible lebron is uneducated on the subject so many people could have been harmed not only financially, physically, emotionally, spiritually. So just be careful what we tweet and say and we do, even though, yes, we do have freedom of speech, but there can be a lot of negative that comes with that, too

Coneygree · 26-04-2021 4:33pm

LeBron acted the gowl with some comments about China a while back too.

To be fair to him or anyone else, I don't expect athletes to be well versed in political affairs, so I don't pay heed to their opinions on it and wouldn't look to them for guidance or opinion or whatever you want to call it. I know they have a huge audience and they should be a little careful about what they say as many treat their word as Gospel but those people are easily led and said anyway. Anyone old enough and mature enough will know not to listen to them when they're talking nonsense.

26-04-2021 6:48pm

Coneygree wrote: »

LeBron acted the gowl with some comments about China a while back too.

To be fair to him or anyone else, I don't expect athletes to be well versed in political affairs, so I don't pay heed to their opinions on it and wouldn't look to them for guidance or opinion or whatever you want to call it. I know they have a huge audience and they should be a little careful about what they say as many treat their word as Gospel but those people are easily led and said anyway. Anyone old enough and mature enough will know not to listen to them when they're talking nonsense.

Nor do I but telling daryl morey to shush because he's uneducated on the subject was a bigger issue for me

Coneygree · 26-04-2021 7:42pm

Eden Kind Manger wrote: »

Nor do I but telling daryl morey to shush because he's uneducated on the subject was a bigger issue for me

Yeah he made a right mess of it.

ButtersSuki · 27-04-2021 8:18am

Dallas undo all their good work beating the lakers back to back by losing to the slings. SMH. They’ve lost to all seem to lose to every bad team in the league.

ButtersSuki · 29-04-2021 10:04am

I only saw this last night but I see daddy’s little girl Austin Rivers tried to undercut Steph Curry’s landing the other day. Having had that done to me in my time I despise anyone I ever see trying that sh*t. It is honestly one of the scummiest things you can do on a basketball court to anyone and should come with a massive suspension and fine. It’s the kind of thing that looks relatively innocuous and even accidental but is just a scumbag move. The fact he didn’t apologise at the time or even pretend to pretty much proves he meant it. Scumbag.

2020/21 NBA season + Olympics

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