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27-11-2018, 23:16   #31
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Isn't that what After Hours is for?
Wasn't it a sub department of the Ministry of Fun years ago? Can't remember the last time I genuinely laughed me b*ll*cks off reading a thread in here tbh.
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27-11-2018, 23:25   #32
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Cry me a river, private sector workers are afforded fewer protections and prone to wage cuts. And the holidays are nowhere near as generous.
that's not the fault of the public sector workers though. it also doesn't mean the issue of the huge cost of living in the cities shouldn't be addressed, especially when it is causing shortages for critical jobs. ultimately the private sector workers need to be fighting for better terms.

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Why not reduce the pay of those living outside of Dublin?
because it would probably be a form of discrimination at worst case and it would definitely be unfair at best. if someone is paid less then another, it should be based on the normal factors used to judge pay such as time served in the job etc, not where they happen to live. it is right fair and just that for example, a teacher of 10 years experience, earns the same whether they live inside or outside dublin.
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27-11-2018, 23:32   #33
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Here we go.
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Here we go.
Only once? Are football chants being shortened as well in the cause of profitability.....?
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We might as well blame travellers for people becoming teachers, nurses etc. !!

Btw...teachers on leave from their jobs don't get paid while not working. But let's not allow facts get in the way.
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27-11-2018, 23:46   #36
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Davy stockbrokers have today released a report on public sector pay in Ireland.
The report has found that average public sector wages are €47,400 in Ireland, 40% higher than in the private sector


I don't know how they survive.
A meaningless stat considering public sector workers have a very high proportion of highly skilled jobs compared to the private sector so you would naturally expect a higher average salary.

Also teaches, nurses and guards etc are very underpaid for the jobs they do in any part of the country never mind Dublin.
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27-11-2018, 23:50   #37
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Btw...teachers on leave from their jobs don't get paid while not working. But let's not allow facts get in the way.
Who said they did?
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27-11-2018, 23:51   #38
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Should be i reckon 20% extra for living n working in Dublin. Freeze all increments to pay for it.
Are you a landlord in Dublin?
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A friends younger sister started in the public service last year, she's getting a smidgeon over minimum wage yet living/renting in Dublin. Don't know how she does it.

I think a lot of people are getting confused with a 50 year public servant who has all the hefty increments and bonuses already built up, versus someone who's trying to get their life off the ground.

Yet another 2 tier system.
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Davy stockbrokers have today released a report on public sector pay in Ireland.
The report has found that average public sector wages are €47,400 in Ireland, 40% higher than in the private sector


I don't know how they survive.
Very few in my office on 47k. Most are cobsiderably under 30,k but it's s headline.... it must be true
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A friends younger sister started in the public service last year, she's getting a smidgeon over minimum wage yet living/renting in Dublin. Don't know how she does it.

I think a lot of people are getting confused with a 50 year public servant who has all the hefty increments and bonuses already built up, versus someone who's trying to get their life off the ground.

Yet another 2 tier system.

Christ.


She's young. She can share. Get a room in a house for 280e a month.


That leaves her with over 1300e a month with shared bills.


God forbid we're ever in a_real_ crisis.
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Averaging out salaries doesn't work either because it's bound to be distorted by the high earners in the top grades and the ones who've moved up through the ranks. The newer people got shafted when the likes of Croke Park and Haddington Road were being negotiated.
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Very few in my office on 47k. Most are cobsiderably under 30,k but it's s headline.... it must be true

I'm not sure they focused on just your office pal.


It was y'know. The whole of the public sector.
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This a windup?


One of the highest paid public sector work forces in the oecd and they should be given rent allowance?




They should be just delighted we haven't started reverse bench marking.
It's laughable..
If it's so bad for public servants then imagine what it's like for everyone else
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Averaging out salaries doesn't work either because it's bound to be distorted by the high earners in the top grades and the ones who've moved up through the ranks. The newer people got shafted when the likes of Croke Park and Haddington Road were being negotiated.

No one was "shafted" Their employer was bankrupt. Financially embarrassed. They were been paid too much anyway.
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