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Ireland Team Talk Thread IX: Grand Slam Champions SEE MOD WARNING POST #1122

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  • #102
    Buer
    Registered Users Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    Burkie1203 wrote: »
    Handsome Rob sat out training today.

    If he isnt available Saturday then just give England a walkover. :);)

    He's available for selection according to Richie Murphy. He needs a break today. People don't understand how exhausting it is to be ridiculously good looking.


  • #103
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Buer wrote: »
    He's available for selection according to Richie Murphy. He needs a break today. People don't understand how exhausting it is to be ridiculously good looking.

    Speak for yourself.


  • #104
    jm08
    Registered Users Posts: 11,301 ✭✭✭✭jm08


    baas baa wrote: »
    Barring a mare Saturday Sexton would have to get it. The DG being the defining moment of the championship will count favourably.

    I wouldn't be so sure about that. With so many Irish players shortlisted, the vote is likely to be split.


  • #105
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    jm08 wrote: »
    I wouldn't be so sure about that. With so many Irish players shortlisted, the vote is likely to be split.

    The only thing that's split is the French posts after the greatest drop goal in history


  • #106
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,489 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    The only thing that's split is the French posts after the greatest drop goal in history

    And my sides after reading this post.


  • #107
    wp_rathead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    Bridge93 wrote: »
    Guirado is 33/1

    Other notable names:
    Earls 3/1
    Murray 17/2
    Huw Jones 9/1
    Matteo Minozzi 22/1

    He is my FB of the tournament IMO
    Thought Chris Robshaw has had a good tournament for England
    Parkes and Hill been good for Wales

    Sexton my PotT though


  • #108
    Former Former
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,728 ✭✭✭Former Former


    Bridge93 wrote: »
    Guirado is 33/1

    That's bananas.

    Not as bananas as the fact that no French player has ever won it. Ever. Andrea Masi has won more awards than all French players combined, despite four titles and two Slams since the award was brought in. England have won it once.

    It's not a very credible award.


  • #109
    jacothelad
    Registered Users Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭jacothelad


    kuang1 wrote: »
    What Sexton did then (which was absolutely perfect defence imo) is exactly what I'd love to see Kearney do so much more of.
    (Rather than the superman impersonation he nailed seconds before.)

    Yes. His flailing attempt at a flying tackle on Jones was dreadful. He really had no chance of making it in that way unless Jones suffered some sort of temporary blindness. Stevie Wonder could have stepped him even without his guide dog. He should have done what Sexton did and 'marshalled' Jones.
    One of the few things Rob did with less than stellar composure.


  • #110
    kilns
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    Hogg hat trick? its meaningless its a popularity contest


  • #111
    Buer
    Registered Users Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    kilns wrote: »
    Hogg hat trick? its meaningless its a popularity contest

    If Stockdale scores this weekend, it will be hard to see beyond him.

    Guirado is in with a shot though. People warm to a gallant loser.


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  • #112
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Green and gold rugby look ahead to our series. Starts at 38:30

    http://www.greenandgoldrugby.com/ggr-podcast/


  • #113
    penybont exile
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    prawnsambo wrote: »
    I always find it a bit disingenuous when commentators look at one side's chances without taking into account the actions of the opposition. I think even in commentary, the consensus was that Scotland rushed those passes and that's why they didn't go to hand. And a team rushes passes when they're under pressure. The way Jonny Sexton dealt with Huw Jones break is a case in point really. He didn't appear to do an awful lot, but what he did was change the balance very marginally in our favour; enough for Huw Jones to become indecisive.
    TBH that was just a cock-up by Jones.

    As soon as Hogg was on his shoulder the pass should have gone. Try under the sticks.


  • #114
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,375 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    penybont exile wrote: »
    TBH that was just a cock-up by Jones.

    As soon as Hogg was on his shoulder the pass should have gone. Try under the sticks.
    Did you ask him? :P


  • #115
    penybont exile
    Registered Users Posts: 732 ✭✭✭penybont exile


    Will Sexton have his kicking boots with him on Saturday?

    Could that be the difference?


  • #116
    Neil3030
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    penybont exile wrote: »
    Will Sexton have his kicking boots with him on Saturday?

    Could that be the difference?

    Nah, England will give us enough penalties that he can take it handy enough. He should ping a few at Mike Brown's face for the craic.


  • #117
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    I see the media are getting predictably carried away with themselves.

    https://twitter.com/rugby_ie/status/973632945822031873

    "Sometimes my biggest weakness is that I care too much"


  • #118
    Yeah_Right
    Registered Users Posts: 6,034 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right


    swiwi_ wrote: »
    Got in before yeah right.

    Suck on that bro.

    Well done Swiwi.

    https://youtu.be/x8btfw32h-w


  • #119
    Dog Botherer
    Registered Users Posts: 1,641 ✭✭✭Dog Botherer


    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    I see the media are getting predictably carried away with themselves.

    https://twitter.com/rugby_ie/status/973632945822031873

    "Sometimes my biggest weakness is that I care too much"

    Michael_Scott_Greatest_Strength-400x267.jpg


  • #120
    The Rape of Lucretia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    penybont exile wrote: »
    Will Sexton have his kicking boots with him on Saturday?

    Could that be the difference?

    It'll be tight. It'll be tight.

    If they fail, Patty's day could lead to the The Night of the Long Knives : Sexton, Best, Kearney, never seen nor heard of in green shirts again.....and Schmidt, sent back to the colonies.


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  • #121
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,266 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »
    It'll be tight. It'll be tight.

    If they fail, Patty's day could lead to the The Night of the Long Knives : Sexton, Best, Kearney, never seen nor heard of in green shirts again.....and Schmidt, sent back to the colonies.

    Muhahahahahaa:D:D

    Best one yet :pac:


  • #122
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,375 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    Podge_irl wrote: »
    Muhahahahahaa:D:D

    Best one yet :pac:
    Mixed up his vernacular though. Americans call it "Patty's Day", but would never refer to NZ as "the colonies".

    Solid 6 is all I can give it. :pac:


  • #123
    Jack Kanoff
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭Jack Kanoff


    Shamelessly stolen from elsewhere.


  • #124
    The Rape of Lucretia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    Seriously though, Stocks needs to cut that out. Its a bad sign that there is a defensive systems failure that prompts an intercept shot as the best solution - that nevertheless has an undesirable risk in it.
    Its most unSchmidtly. If I were he I would be throwing a right tantrum over it. Not at Stocks himself particularly, but at the failings that lead to that situation.
    Jacob, please, no more.


  • #125
    mfceiling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,861 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    P.Walnuts wrote: »
    Lads sorry for the slightly OT post but I'm going to be in Madrid for the weekend, any recommendations for a good pub to watch game? I know there are a few Irish pubs but I'm sure some are better than others. Cheers

    I was there last summer and went to the James Joyce for Dublin v Tyrone. Food seemed to be grand and there was a great atmosphere there.

    One place worth visiting is Mercado San Miguel. A beautiful old wrought iron and glass building full of different food and drink options. Seriously buzzy in the evenings.


  • #126
    Neil3030
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    Did the eggchasers do a live show recently in an Irish pub in Madrid called O'Neills? I'm guessing that might be a decent rugby pub if they chose same?

    Edit - unless it's part of that shocking franchise they have in the UK?


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  • #127
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,266 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Neil3030 wrote: »
    Did the eggchasers do a live show recently in an Irish pub in Madrid called O'Neills? I'm guessing that might be a decent rugby pub if they chose same?

    Edit - unless it's part of that shocking franchise they have in the UK?

    It's a bit of a ****e chain but there are worse places to watch a game.


  • #128
    PTH2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,885 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Really stating the obv but I think England will come flying out of there chariots and will be really up for this game but we need to show some balls and answer the challenge. This could be our 3rd GS and by far prob the most different path (2x away games against the historically big guns)

    The feeling I have in my head is at the start of the campaign with our schedule would we have settled for the title ??. Excluding Italy (and Scotlands trips to us (after a while mind u) and Wales) all the other teams have been very competitive vs each other and on any given day can beat one another


  • #129
    Eod100
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    Buer wrote: »
    I wouldn't hold my breath. I don't think an outhalf has ever been given it. It's a popularity contest and Sexton isn't winning that.

    Launchbury was superb last year but didn't even finish top 3.

    Would ROG not have got one down through the years?


  • #130
    Dubinusa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,612 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    Should be the same game plan as last year. Play it tight, keep possession and smother them. If Jones persists with a big immobile back row, then we should make hay. This is a game where Henshaw would really shine. He was brilliant last year. He really got stuck in and hammered them. I just hope Sexton is on the money from the tee. If it comes down to penalties, he needs to make them count as Farrell usually is fantastic. George Ford has been pedestrian thus far and may not start. I hope he does and we send Church Aki, Stander and Furlong right down that channel. I've always yhought we'd ein this matvh and my confidence is high right now.


  • #131
    kuang1
    Registered Users Posts: 3,458 ✭✭✭kuang1


    Dubinusa wrote: »
    I've always yhought we'd ein this matvh and my confidence is high right now.

    Just your confidence???


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  • #132
    Dubinusa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,612 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    Auto correct and I am blind. Lol. Haven't had a drop in yrs, although I think I could use one


  • #133
    swiwi_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,501 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    Yeah_Right wrote: »
    Well done Swiwi.

    https://youtu.be/x8btfw32h-w

    Ah yeah, Spencer, your typical Aucklander.

    Except he was from Levin.

    For the Irish, Levin is like Tullamore. You just feel extreme pity when someone says they are from there.


  • #134
    connemara man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,773 ✭✭✭connemara man


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/69449e6a-26fc-11e8-acc5-262aff1ca7a6

    Fairly Dodge decision here. The AR Marius Van Der Westhuizen was invited by England rugby to take a training session and accepted the week before he'll be on the sidelines for England v Ireland


  • #135
    Buer
    Registered Users Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Would ROG not have got one down through the years?

    No. The award was introduced in 2004. The winners were:

    Gordon D'Arcy
    Martyn Williams
    BOD
    BOD
    Shane Williams
    BOD
    Tommy Bowe
    Andrea Masi
    Dan Lydiate
    Leigh Halfpenny
    Mike Brown
    POC
    Stuart Hogg
    Stuart Hogg

    Complete popularity contest. Most of the winners above were flavour of the month at the time and not the best players in that particular year. It's the problem with a public vote.

    If you take that award and compare it to the World Rugby POTY nominees, only Halfpenny (2013), BOD (2009), Shane Williams (2008) and D'Arcy (2004) were actually viewed as good enough by the panel of former players and journalists who vote for that award.


  • #136
    Simone Thoughtless Guava
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    The two forwards who have ever won it are Martyn Williams (fair enough) and Dan Lydiate?

    Suffering jaysus.


  • #137
    Buer
    Registered Users Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    Jermaine Big Barium wrote: »
    The two forwards who have ever won it are Martyn Williams (fair enough) and Dan Lydiate?

    Suffering jaysus.

    POC too.

    Lydiate was a bit of a media darling that year purely for the tactic of cutting attackers down. He was completely flavour of the month. He had a fine tournament but probably the most limited player ever to win the award.


  • #138
    Simone Thoughtless Guava
    Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ Simone Thoughtless Guava


    Buer wrote: »
    POC too.

    Ah yes didn't spot him. But still very lopsided towards backs. Running fast with the ball is a pretty obvious thing I guess.


  • #139
    irishfan9
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,585 ✭✭✭irishfan9


    They should split the award into forward/back.


  • #140
    7oakse
    Registered Users Posts: 71 ✭✭7oakse


    Guirado out of the next game will hurt his chances. 
    If Basteraud has a stormer in the next game he could be up for a nomination - he's grabbed loads of column inches since his return.


  • #141
    [Deleted User]
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    Rumour mill is saying that Johnny Sexton is a bloody legend and that he'll win MotM this weekend


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  • #142
    Quint2010
    Registered Users Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭Quint2010


    South African official Marius Van Der Westhuizen was in England camp yesterday refereeing their training session. He's the AR for the game on Saturday. Thoughts?..


  • #143
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,375 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    Quint2010 wrote: »
    South African official Marius Van Der Westhuizen was in England camp yesterday refereeing their training session. He's the AR for the game on Saturday. Thoughts?..
    Being discussed on the 'Other TT" thread.

    It's not against the rules, but the AR may have to replace the matchday ref, so that could then be a problem.


  • #144
    foxyladyxx
    Registered Users Posts: 855 ✭✭✭foxyladyxx


    Buer wrote: »
    No. The award was introduced in 2004. The winners were:

    Gordon D'Arcy
    Martyn Williams
    BOD
    BOD
    Shane Williams
    BOD
    Tommy Bowe
    Andrea Masi
    Dan Lydiate
    Leigh Halfpenny
    Mike Brown
    POC
    Stuart Hogg
    Stuart Hogg

    Complete popularity contest. Most of the winners above were flavour of the month at the time and not the best players in that particular year. It's the problem with a public vote.

    If you take that award and compare it to the World Rugby POTY nominees, only Halfpenny (2013), BOD (2009), Shane Williams (2008) and D'Arcy (2004) were actually viewed as good enough by the panel of former players and journalists who vote for that award.

    Stockdale would win so if he scores a try in the English match,


  • #145
    Buer
    Registered Users Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    foxyladyxx wrote: »
    Stockdale would win so if he scores a try in the English match,

    I'd expect him to. He's a marketable, young bloke who is scoring lots of tries. Perfect for a public vote.

    There has been no really stand out player in this tournament so it may well go to whoever scores the most unless someone like Sexton or Murray has a big game this weekend.


  • #146
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,375 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    The Telegraph have a good article on Ringrose's actions during the Scotland match. It's by Charlie Morgan, but I think that's one of Murray Kinsella's aliases. ;)


  • #147
    bilston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,808 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Either Murray or Sexton should win it, but I'd say Stockdale has a big chance too just because he has scored loads of tries and his profile has gone through the roof.

    Elsewhere Huw Jones would have been in the running, but then he got manshamed by Ringrose!


  • #148
    aloooof
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,617 Mod ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    Damn you RTE.ie! Just read the headline "Simmonds out......... for Slam-buster revenge".


  • #149
    jr86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭jr86


    Buer wrote: »
    No. The award was introduced in 2004. The winners were:

    Gordon D'Arcy
    Martyn Williams
    BOD
    BOD
    Shane Williams
    BOD
    Tommy Bowe
    Andrea Masi
    Dan Lydiate
    Leigh Halfpenny
    Mike Brown
    POC
    Stuart Hogg
    Stuart Hogg

    Complete popularity contest. Most of the winners above were flavour of the month at the time and not the best players in that particular year. It's the problem with a public vote.

    If you take that award and compare it to the World Rugby POTY nominees, only Halfpenny (2013), BOD (2009), Shane Williams (2008) and D'Arcy (2004) were actually viewed as good enough by the panel of former players and journalists who vote for that award.

    LOL how on earth did Vunipola not win it in 2016.


  • #150
    thomond2006
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    The WR POTY has been a joke at times too. One year in particular JMFL was clearly in the top echelon of players and wasn't even nominated.


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  • #151
    arsebiscuits1
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    The WR POTY has been a joke at times too. One year in particular JMFL was clearly in the top echelon of players and wasn't even nominated.

    BOD 2009. Pricks


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