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Mitsubishi Pajero Replacment

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭Gravelly


    I know nothing about the military or its requirements, but is there a reason why the crewcab Hilux isn't an option? All the advantages of the Landcruiser, but a bigger "boot".


  • Registered Users Posts: 747 ✭✭✭Yawlboy


    The Coastguard bought the latest Landrover Discovery, perhaps the DF will consider them? Automatic only though but with their current financial troubles I'm sure JLR would love a big deal.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,410 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Landcruiser would be a lot tougher,(and dearer) and comes in a flat bed pick up as well.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 590 ✭✭✭Leonidas BL


    Markcheese wrote: »
    Landcruiser would be a lot tougher,(and dearer) and comes in a flat bed pick up as well.

    Landcruiser only tows 3000kg, needs to be 3500kg.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭Heraldoffreeent


    Landcruiser only tows 3000kg, needs to be 3500kg.

    RAC says it can.
    For towing weights above 2,000kg, there are a limited number of suitable vehicles, but the following can cope with towing up to 3,500kg: Land Rovers Defender and Discovery, Range Rover, Mitsubishi Shogun, Jeep Grand Cherokee, Isuzu Trooper, BMW X6, Kia Sorento, Toyota Land Cruiser, Mercedes-Benz GL and M-Class and the VW Touareg.

    https://www.raccars.co.uk/news/towing-capacity-guide


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  • Registered Users Posts: 590 ✭✭✭Leonidas BL



    Everyone else must be wrong so, including Toyota.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,410 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Everyone else must be wrong so, including Toyota.

    To be fair, the 70 series landcruiser isnt on sale in Ireland or the UK, its still being made, and they still sell loads of them in australia.

    https://www.toyota.com.au/main/landcruiser-70

    One of their big selling points is that they are approved 3.5 ton while carrying almost ton on board.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 23,691 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    The LC70 is on leaf springs FFS!

    Two reasons for that. 1) easy to repair / swap out in the middle of nowhere. 2) 70s are ubiquitous in Australian mining and bush farming. The leaf springs are so appallingly uncomfortable so as to keep inexperienced drivers / employers from going too fast and coming a cropper in them.

    The Pajero is light years ahead of it for Irish conditions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭ Alayna Polite Stereo


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    The LC70 is on leaf springs FFS!

    Two reasons for that. 1) easy to repair / swap out in the middle of nowhere. 2) 70s are ubiquitous in Australian mining and bush farming. The leaf springs are so appallingly uncomfortable so as to keep inexperienced drivers / employers from going too fast and coming a cropper in them.

    The Pajero is light years ahead of it for Irish conditions.

    It was an LC70 which overturned killing four Irish soldiers who were serving with the 86th Inf Bn.


  • Registered Users Posts: 590 ✭✭✭Leonidas BL


    It was an LC70 which overturned killing four Irish soldiers who were serving with the 86th Inf Bn.

    Hopefully they'll be left to the Aussies so.....


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,606 ✭✭✭gctest50


    They need roll bars


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭ Alayna Polite Stereo


    gctest50 wrote: »
    They need roll bars

    They had roll bars in Lebanon. No one liked that particular vehicle, either the pick up 'not the saloon/jeep version.


  • Registered Users Posts: 590 ✭✭✭Leonidas BL




  • Registered Users Posts: 3,168 ✭✭✭wassie


    Landcruiser only tows 3000kg, needs to be 3500kg.
    Must be remembered for what ever reason here in Ireland (and EU) what we call the Land Cruiser (LC150 series) is what the rest of the world calls a (Landcruiser) Prado.
    A 'real' Landcruiser (i.e. 70, 100 & 200 series) are more than capable to tow 3500kg.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭Heraldoffreeent


    So Landcruiser it is.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,691 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    So Landcruiser it is.

    Is it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭Heraldoffreeent




  • Registered Users Posts: 112 ✭✭a/tel



    Over €11m approx.

    A lot of money when low pay is issue No 1 at present.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,691 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    a/tel wrote: »
    Over €11m approx.

    A lot of money when low pay is issue No 1 at present.

    Separate issues.

    DF pay is hamstrung as like the Guards it was linked to the rest of the public service but heavily augmented by allowances unlike most of the PS. The doomsday scenario for the Government is decoupling any one part of the PS from the rest.

    Capital expenditure for equipment like vehicles, weapons systems, planes and ships is much easier to turn on and off with the economic winds.


  • Registered Users Posts: 590 ✭✭✭Leonidas BL


    Land Cruiser is finishing up production in 2022, I wonder will this affect spare parts???


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭sparky42


    Land Cruiser is finishing up production in 2022, I wonder will this affect spare parts???


    Given the scale of userbase I'd be surprised if there wouldn't be a large market even after that date.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,410 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Anyone know what type of landcruisers they're getting?

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭davetherave


    The tender specified that spare parts must be available for the life of the vehicle (ten years after delivery).


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,678 ✭✭✭Signore Fancy Pants


    Markcheese wrote: »
    Anyone know what type of landcruisers they're getting?

    Toyota

















    Sorry


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,410 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Toyota
















    Sorry

    Green ones??

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  • Registered Users Posts: 747 ✭✭✭Yawlboy


    Markcheese wrote: »
    Green ones??

    possibly but also some blue


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,410 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Yawlboy wrote: »
    possibly but also some blue

    Would they not have to be renamed sea-cruisers so?

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users Posts: 23,691 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    DF Instagram from a few days back, gallery of vehicles to be deployed during crisis, including 192-D Land Cruiser LC150 Utility


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,678 ✭✭✭Signore Fancy Pants


    Heres one.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 23,691 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    The very one.


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