Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Hi all! We have been experiencing an issue on site where threads have been missing the latest postings. The platform host Vanilla are working on this issue. A workaround that has been used by some is to navigate back from 1 to 10+ pages to re-sync the thread and this will then show the latest posts. Thanks, Mike.
Hi there,
There is an issue with role permissions that is being worked on at the moment.
If you are having trouble with access or permissions on regional forums please post here to get access: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058365403/you-do-not-have-permission-for-that#latest

Dublin GAA Discussion Thread: Mod Note - No 'Dublin Dominance' chat allowed!

1…3132343637…153

Comments

  • #1652
    ShyMets
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭ShyMets


    As things are a bit quite on the Intercounty scene I thought I'd ask the question if anyone has a cult hero on the team of the last ten years.

    For me its Eoghan O'Gara. Granted he wasn't the most skillful player, was often widely erratic with ball in hand and his disciple wasn't always the best. But he was some man for winning high ball, gave us a different attacking option up front and got some vital scores over the years.

    As a friend of mine said: he'd either get a red card of a goal.


  • #1653
    Dyr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    ShyMets wrote: »
    As things are a bit quite on the Intercounty scene I thought I'd ask the question if anyone has a cult hero on the team of the last ten years.

    For me its Eoghan O'Gara. Granted he wasn't the most skillful player, was often widely erratic with ball in hand and his disciple wasn't always the best. But he was some man for winning high ball, gave us a different attacking option up front and got some vital scores over the years.

    As a friend of mine said: he'd either get a red card of a goal.

    The era of the cult hero is over but mine was O'Gara, you knew he was likely to flatten a full back or blast a sitter wide but he was going to do something you'd notice. Same with Bastick


  • #1654
    rolling boh
    Registered Users Posts: 2,104 ✭✭✭rolling boh


    Think anybody to acquire cult hero status has to be great and terrible in the same match E O G definitely came into that category. Can't really think of anybody else in or as round the panel that you can say that about .


  • #1655
    gormdubhgorm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,912 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    ShyMets wrote: »
    As things are a bit quite on the Intercounty scene I thought I'd ask the question if anyone has a cult hero on the team of the last ten years.

    For me its Eoghan O'Gara. Granted he wasn't the most skillful player, was often widely erratic with ball in hand and his disciple wasn't always the best. But he was some man for winning high ball, gave us a different attacking option up front and got some vital scores over the years.

    As a friend of mine said: he'd either get a red card of a goal.
    rolling boh wrote: »
    Think anybody to acquire cult hero status has to be great and terrible in the same match E O G definitely came into that category. Can't really think of anybody else in or as round the panel that you can say that about .

    I will give another two Diarmuid Connolly as a younger player in particular, and Marc Vaughan everytime he stepped on to the pitch.

    Both capable of moments of genius, followed or preceded by moments of pure stupidity. Vaughan's moments of genius were extremely rare (booming free kicks etc) but was very consistent with the moments of stupidity.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • #1656
    ShyMets
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭ShyMets


    gormdubhgorm wrote: »
    I will give another two Diarmuid Connolly as a younger player in particular, and Marc Vaughan everytime he stepped on to the pitch.

    Both capable of moments of genius, followed or preceded by moments of pure stupidity. Vaughan's moments of genius were extremely rare (booming free kicks etc) but was very consistent with the moments of stupidity.

    Ah Marc 'Boom Boom' Vaughan. Not to be harsh on the guy. But I think he exemplified some of what was wrong with that Dublin team. Brash, mouthy and arrogant. The kind of attitude Gilroy, Gavin and Farrell wouldn't tolerate


  • Advertisement
  • #1657
    dobman88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭dobman88


    It has to be Connolly surely? Every GAA fan loves him. A lot of casual fans love him but would probably never admit it too. The type of lad everyone wanted on their team but also loved to hate. A genius and one of the best I've ever seen.


  • #1658
    gormdubhgorm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,912 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    dobman88 wrote: »
    It has to be Connolly surely? Every GAA fan loves him. A lot of casual fans love him but would probably never admit it too. The type of lad everyone wanted on their team but also loved to hate. A genius and one of the best I've ever seen.

    Yeah that Carlow game was not so long ago.

    I can't think of a Kerry fella with that level of skill who people love to hate. The Gooch seems fairly sound. Paul Galvin/Kieran Donaghy I suppose but they don't have that high level of skill. Unless you count Pat Spillane for annoying people as a pundit... :D

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • #1659
    dobman88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭dobman88


    gormdubhgorm wrote: »
    Yeah that Carlow game was not so long ago.

    I can't think of a Kerry fella with that level of skill who people love to hate. The Gooch seems fairly sound. Paul Galvin/Kieran Donaghy I suppose but they don't have that high level of skill. Unless you count Pat Spillane for annoying people as a pundit... :D

    I meant loved to hate as in he would break your heart by being a game winner but you always admired him.

    Not that I actually hate him. Personally, I'd have him as one of my favourite players ever tbh.


  • #1660
    gormdubhgorm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,912 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    dobman88 wrote: »
    I meant loved to hate as in he would break your heart by being a game winner but you always admired him.

    Not that I actually hate him. Personally, I'd have him as one of my favourite players ever tbh.

    Kieran McDonald for Mayo has to be pushing number 1 in any vote countrywide though.

    Plenty of times at club games in Parnell Park supporters just start laughing at Connolly scores, the level of sheer cheek in them. I can't think of another player that gets that reaction from Dublin anyway.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • #1661
    rolling boh
    Registered Users Posts: 2,104 ✭✭✭rolling boh


    I wonder if you play with a less sucessful team are you more fondly remembered as your antics stand out more rather than having a pile of medals from a dominant team .


  • Advertisement
  • #1662
    billyhead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,967 ✭✭✭billyhead


    ShyMets wrote: »
    Ah Marc 'Boom Boom' Vaughan. Not to be harsh on the guy. But I think he exemplified some of what was wrong with that Dublin team. Brash, mouthy and arrogant. The kind of attitude Gilroy, Gavin and Farrell wouldn't tolerate

    He was full of it. No harm in having confidence though. Remember the white boots.


  • #1663
    ShyMets
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭ShyMets


    rolling boh wrote: »
    I wonder if you play with a less sucessful team are you more fondly remembered as your antics stand out more rather than having a pile of medals from a dominant team .

    Shane Curran the former Roscommon goalkeeper comes to mind


  • #1664
    ShyMets
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭ShyMets


    billyhead wrote: »
    He was full of it. No harm in having confidence though. Remember the white boots.

    You're correct. Nothing wrong with confidence. I'm just not convinced he had the quite talent to back it up


  • #1665
    rolling boh
    Registered Users Posts: 2,104 ✭✭✭rolling boh


    ShyMets wrote: »
    Shane Curran the former Roscommon goalkeeper comes to mind

    he was one i was trying to remember his name gas character indeed a true cult hero


  • #1666
    gormdubhgorm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,912 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    ShyMets wrote: »
    Shane Curran the former Roscommon goalkeeper comes to mind
    rolling boh wrote: »
    he was one i was trying to remember his name gas character indeed a true cult hero

    His book is gas altogether. One example I remember, he used to work in a furniture shop at one stage, had a great craic talking up a beds plus points to young couples :D

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00LVDFXTS?tag=duc08-21&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • #1667
    ooter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,253 ✭✭✭ooter


    Philly would be my choice, hated by opposition players and fans but they'd have him on their team in a heartbeat.
    Well able to wind them up on and off the field.


  • #1668
    dobman88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭dobman88


    ooter wrote: »
    Philly would be my choice, hated by opposition players and fans but they'd have him on their team in a heartbeat.
    Well able to wind them up on and off the field.

    I'd disagree with hating him off the field. He's a lad doing trojan work around Ballymun, Dublin and the prison service. I've been lucky enough to meet him a handful of times and he's a complete gent. When he's playing, course I want to see him lose, but hate. Dunno, it's a strong word.

    And I'd say while players probably would hate each other inside the lines, you usually see a mutual respect for opponents in interviews and such.


  • #1669
    ooter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,253 ✭✭✭ooter


    Only basing it on what I see/hear at dublin matches.
    When I said off the field I only meant the minutes around and in between a game off the field.


  • #1670
    dobman88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭dobman88


    ooter wrote: »
    Only basing it on what I see/hear at dublin matches.

    Fair enough. Dont lump us all in the one box.


  • #1671
    gormdubhgorm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,912 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    ShyMets wrote: »
    As things are a bit quite on the Intercounty scene I thought I'd ask the question if anyone has a cult hero on the team of the last ten years.

    For me its Eoghan O'Gara. Granted he wasn't the most skillful player, was often widely erratic with ball in hand and his disciple wasn't always the best. But he was some man for winning high ball, gave us a different attacking option up front and got some vital scores over the years.

    As a friend of mine said: he'd either get a red card of a goal.

    I remember a few fellas who looked like he were going to be cult heroes for Dublin. But injury cut their time short. One from either side of the the Liffey.

    Ian Robertson full back - Ballymun, and Mark Davoren Forward - Kilmacud Crokes.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Advertisement
  • #1672
    ShyMets
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭ShyMets


    gormdubhgorm wrote: »
    I remember a few fellas who looked like he were going to be cult heroes for Dublin. But injury cut their time short. One from either side of the the Liffey.

    Ian Robertson full back - Ballymun, and Mark Davoren Forward - Kilmacud Crokes.

    It was a real shame about Davoren. Had the hallmarks of a really fine player


  • #1673
    thesultan
    Registered Users Posts: 2,700 ✭✭✭thesultan


    Any of yee read Brogans book?


  • #1674
    EICVD
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭EICVD


    thesultan wrote: »
    Any of yee read Brogans book?

    Just started it today


  • #1675
    thesultan
    Registered Users Posts: 2,700 ✭✭✭thesultan


    Let me knew what you think of it?


  • #1676
    ShyMets
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭ShyMets


    thesultan wrote: »
    Any of yee read Brogans book?

    Read it over Christmas. Not a bad read. But nothing overly controversial or any great insights into the workings of the team.

    You certainly get the impression that he didn't see eye to eye with Gavin towards the end. But he doesn't throw Gavin under the bus

    There's also a few plugs for his businesses thrown in


  • #1677
    billyhead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,967 ✭✭✭billyhead


    ShyMets wrote: »
    Read it over Christmas. Not a bad read. But nothing overly controversial or any great insights into the workings of the team.

    You certainly get the impression that he didn't see eye to eye with Gavin towards the end. But he doesn't throw Gavin under the bus

    There's also a few plugs for his businesses thrown in

    I would echo this. I read it last week and its a decent read. Not controversial or anything. Just critical of how he was dropped for the 2019 AI panel. He wanted that final swansong.


  • #1678
    thesultan
    Registered Users Posts: 2,700 ✭✭✭thesultan


    Very little insight into the real going on of the team.. Very bland at times.. The bunker to the DCU gym..


  • #1679
    ShyMets
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭ShyMets


    thesultan wrote: »
    Very little insight into the real going on of the team.. Very bland at times.. The bunker to the DCU gym..

    With his business interests and media work it was never going to an explosive memoir. Too many people to keep sweet.

    Now a tell all biography from Diarmuid Connolly would be worth a read. But I dont think that will ever happen


  • #1680
    muddle84
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,734 ✭✭✭muddle84


    ShyMets wrote: »
    With his business interests and media work it was never going to an explosive memoir. Too many people to keep sweet.

    Now a tell all biography from Diarmuid Connolly would be worth a read. But I dont think that will ever happen

    That would be a good read. His work with Boyle sports this year was very good. I reckon he would make a good pundit but maybe too blunt for the TV folks to take on.


  • Advertisement
  • #1681
    rolling boh
    Registered Users Posts: 2,104 ✭✭✭rolling boh


    Think the market for these books is small enough so we are unlikely to really read about the juicy gossip behind the stories we have heard about not really worth the upset it would cause here and there so most of these books will stay more or less the same i think .I never expect anything in them that will come as shock to the readers .


  • #1682
    ArielAtom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,580 ✭✭✭ArielAtom


    https://www.dublingaa.ie/news/watch2019-all-ireland-football-final-replay-dublin-v-kerry?fbclid=IwAR3mLYNPoa6gqabiGCfUQ-Bl5cbls6NkFVUBRS_Kqumob5hYGfom3Eor9_U

    Enjoy folks. Great times to be a Dublin supporter.


  • #1683
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,819 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Paddy Andrews retired according to links on Twitter. A nice quiet player who just got on with the job and gave tireless service.


  • #1684
    ShyMets
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭ShyMets


    Fann Linn wrote: »
    Paddy Andrews retired according to links on Twitter. A nice quiet player who just got on with the job and gave tireless service.

    A very good forward in his prime who was probably a little underrated.

    Leaves with 7 All Ireland medals. Not a bad haul.

    Enjoy retirement Paddy


  • #1685
    dobman88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭dobman88


    Fann Linn wrote: »
    Paddy Andrews retired according to links on Twitter. A nice quiet player who just got on with the job and gave tireless service.

    One of the last of the "old school" style players left. No nonsense and teak tough. Even in recent years, any time he came off the bench he was always good for a point or 2 and just give the defence another headache. Some player.


  • #1686
    dobman88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭dobman88


    ShyMets wrote: »
    A very good forward in his prime who was probably a little underrated.

    Leaves with 8 All Ireland medals. Not a bad haul.

    Enjoy retirement Paddy

    I'm sure someone with a better knowledge will correct me if I'm wrong but does he have 8?

    Not sure he was there in 2011 so I have it that he has the 6 in a row plus 2013 for 7 AI. "Only" 7 :pac:


  • Advertisement
  • #1687
    ShyMets
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭ShyMets


    dobman88 wrote: »
    I'm sure someone with a better knowledge will correct me if I'm wrong but does he have 8?

    Not sure he was there in 2011 so I have it that he has the 6 in a row plus 2013 for 7 AI. "Only" 7 :pac:

    Your right. My mistake. He wasn't involved in 2011.


  • #1688
    thesultan
    Registered Users Posts: 2,700 ✭✭✭thesultan


    ShyMets wrote: »
    A very good forward in his prime who was probably a little underrated.

    Leaves with 8 All Ireland medals. Not a bad haul.

    Enjoy retirement Paddy

    A find player but Dublin are so strong at present that retirements make no difference at all.


  • #1689
    ShamoBuc
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 33,246 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    FYI a Feedback Thread has been opened.


    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058149601

    Please read the Opening Post before posting.

    Any opinions or thoughts in general are welcome.


  • #1690
    willowthewisp
    Registered Users Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭willowthewisp


    ShyMets wrote: »
    With his business interests and media work it was never going to an explosive memoir. Too many people to keep sweet.

    Now a tell all biography from Diarmuid Connolly would be worth a read. But I dont think that will ever happen

    I’m not a Dub, nor necessarily a Dublin fan, but I really enjoyed the book. Maybe because I’m. It as heavily invested as others here, but his dedication and battle against the “fading of the light” really peaked my interest.


  • #1691
    gormdubhgorm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,912 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    For those of a certain vintage who would like to be tortured from Dublin. Or those that would like cheering up from Meath. Or even those who just want to hear about the take of those involved in a great four game saga.

    Dublin v Meath 'The Royal Battle' programme about the four in a row Preliminary Round, back in 1991.

    Interestingly Vinnie Murphy still seemed very sore about Dave Foran being played at full forward in the first game. Said he should have been given 20mins by Paddy Cullen at Full Forward instead of the corner. As a young fella he said it drained his confidence a bit.

    Part 1



    Part 2



    Part 3



    Part 4

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Advertisement
  • #1692
    Tombo2001
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,709 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    thesultan wrote: »
    Very little insight into the real going on of the team.. Very bland at times.. The bunker to the DCU gym..

    I thought it was good, and decent enough insight. I think people have an idea that its more complex than it actually is.

    The most striking parts of it for me were how he was trying to second guess what Jim Gavin was thinking about him towards the end of his career, would he get game time or wouldnt he.

    I read the Jackie Tyrrell book recently, and there were similarities with Tyrrell trying to second guess what Cody was thinking.

    The other thing - I'd say this is fair- is the idea is that this team has gone on a bit of journey to get to where it is today, that started to some degree under Pillar Caffrey and then under Gilroy, and continued on Gavin. To put it differently, I'm not sure if Gavin had take over the Dubs team of 2004 that he'd have turned them into world beaters.


  • #1693
    Tombo2001
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,709 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    One other thing - people often give out about sports books being bland - for me its important that they are accessible to a young (ish) audience. I'd be quite happy for a 12 year to read Bernard Brogans book or say Brian ODriscolls book, which a lot of people gave out about; not sure if I'd give them Roy Keanes book or Paul McGrath's book. The Philly McMahon one, possibly I would, its a really outstanding read.


  • #1694
    C__MC
    Registered Users Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭C__MC


    Most of all GAA ones follow a similar dull pattern
    The heavy training
    The characters
    The Banter etc


  • #1695
    Cavan_King
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,118 ✭✭✭Cavan_King


    Is it true a journalist connected to the Dublin panel has said to expect more retirements over the coming days? Was mentioned on a football podcast here in Cavan when they were discussing the All Stars.


  • #1696
    MFPM
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭MFPM


    Cavan_King wrote: »
    Is it true a journalist connected to the Dublin panel has said to expect more retirements over the coming days? Was mentioned on a football podcast here in Cavan when they were discussing the All Stars.

    MDMA will probably go, Rory O'Carroll too, he took too long out of the game and hasn't been anywhere near where he was, I'm amazed he made any squads but he's nowhere near the team. McMenamin may do something similar to Daly and retire but go into the backroom team. Cian O'Sullivan may go once more unless the injuries are too much. You'd think Cluxton will do one more year because of the short season.


  • #1697
    ArielAtom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,580 ✭✭✭ArielAtom


    Looking at Micks Twitter feed he has retired. What a contribution he has made to this great team. Enjoy the retirement Mick.


  • #1698
    ShyMets
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭ShyMets


    ArielAtom wrote: »
    Looking at Micks Twitter feed he has retired. What a contribution he has made to this great team. Enjoy the retirement Mick.

    Confirmed on Dublin GAA twitter. A great player who was one of my favorites on the team. And who's somewhat unorthodox style could be brilliant and infuriating in the same game. Thanks for the memories

    https://twitter.com/DubGAAOfficial?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor


  • #1699
    but1er
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,505 ✭✭✭but1er


    MDMA hes about 2 years late retiring. Became a massive liability in recent years. Incredible man off the field with the work he is doing in the Inner City


  • #1700
    ArielAtom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,580 ✭✭✭ArielAtom


    but1er wrote: »
    MDMA hes about 2 years late retiring. Became a massive liability in recent years. Incredible man off the field with the work he is doing in the Inner City

    Great post on the day a legend retires!!! He was never a liability. Was a massive influence in the squad.


  • #1701
    corny
    Registered Users Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭corny


    ArielAtom wrote: »
    Great post on the day a legend retires!!! He was never a liability. Was a massive influence in the squad.

    I don't think he got enough credit for this. No player likes to lose but Macauley was incredible in how pushed himself when things got tough. No doubt he set the template for the lads younger than him.

    He's certainly no Brian Fenton in terms of his ball playing but he was no less important.


  • Advertisement
Advertisement