Ruth Bader Ginsburg dies at 87

pjohnson · 19-09-2020 9:15am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Could you expand on this?

Treated women as equal probably.

namloc1980 · 19-09-2020 9:16am

Dillonb3 wrote: »

I think the republicans will try to appoint a new justice before November on the basis of the election potentially going to the supreme court if its disputed. If the court only has 8 judges could you risk a 4-4 split?

The court is a 5-3 split in favour of conservatives as it is.

Dillonb3 · 19-09-2020 9:27am

namloc1980 wrote: »

The court is a 5-3 split in favour of conservatives as it is.

John Roberts hasn't always voted in line with the other conservative judges

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 19-09-2020 9:29am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Surely someones politics shouldnt matter,when they are a judge?

They must be impartial,otherwise whole thing is a joke

Youd think that, yes - but this is the US. It's not about impartiality and justice, is about one side versus the other and winning and losing.

Danzy · 19-09-2020 9:34am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Surely someones politics shouldnt matter,when they are a judge?

They must be impartial,otherwise whole thing is a joke

They should be impartial but that impartiality can vary, always will.

namloc1980 · 19-09-2020 9:37am

Deleted User wrote: »

Surely someones politics shouldnt matter,when they are a judge?

They must be impartial,otherwise whole thing is a joke

You'd think that but in reality it isn't the case. Hence the Republicans stonewalled the Obama nomination in 2016 to get a conservative on to the court and why they will do everything to ram through a nomination in the next few months.

19-09-2020 9:39am

Dillonb3 wrote: »

John Roberts hasn't always voted in line with the other conservative judges

Yeah, Roberts does throw the odd curveball.

Eric Cartman · 19-09-2020 9:42am

bobbyy gee wrote: »

she tried to survive until trump got voted out of office and worked while fighting cancer

A pioneering woman and someone who will be rightfully remembered for her work, however she probably wasnt going to make it to 2025 anyway.

This should tip the balance of the supreme court now and allow America to re-establish its conservative views. Anyone know who the potentials are ?

And inb4 they get accused of sex assault like kavanaugh

Eric Cartman · 19-09-2020 9:45am

paw patrol wrote: »

I find your final comment bizarre, why would they respect her wishes?

What legal right does she have to make these requests?

She doesn't, she also presumes that trump wont be re-elected, she can say whatever she wants, shes not getting a dem picked replacement

weisses · 19-09-2020 9:46am

Danzy wrote: »

They should be impartial but that impartiality can vary, always will.

It just shows once again what a ****hole the US really is

Faugheen · 19-09-2020 9:47am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Yeah, Roberts does throw the odd curveball.

Roberts has become a swing justice rather than staunchly conservative. He doesn’t really Léan one way or the other anymore.

Mind you the only one that bitch about it are the conservatives who consistently talk about impartiality.

Danzy · 19-09-2020 9:48am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Its lunacy...the whole thing is premised on the assumption that the judge wont park their personal bias and uphold the law

Surely noone will rise far enough to become judge in top courts,if their decisions are riddled with political bias.....if they do america has a lot worse problems,than worrying about who gets this job

The law can be interpreted in many ways, that's the bias.

That's human nature, that's law.

It's not going to change.

Danzy · 19-09-2020 9:48am

weisses wrote: »

It just shows once again what a ****hole the US really is

Where is it different?

namloc1980 · 19-09-2020 9:48am

Eric Cartman wrote: »

A pioneering woman and someone who will be rightfully remembered for her work, however she probably wasnt going to make it to 2025 anyway.

This should tip the balance of the supreme court now and allow America to re-establish its conservative views. Anyone know who the potentials are ?

And inb4 they get accused of sex assault like kavanaugh

What are you talking about?

Eric Cartman · 19-09-2020 9:51am

namloc1980 wrote: »

What are you talking about?

Nothing specific but the framework will be there for a 5-3 majority were a decision to be taken. For all the good she did RBG was far too left aligned

weisses · 19-09-2020 9:51am

Danzy wrote: »

Where is it different?

As to what ?

19-09-2020 9:52am

What a sh!tshow of a thread.

alchemist33 · 19-09-2020 9:53am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Surely someones politics shouldnt matter,when they are a judge?

They must be impartial,otherwise whole thing is a joke

Of all the institutions of the US, this is the one that always confounds me the most. It just seems so bizarre from our standpoint, where judges may have their foibles but their views on politics and social issues are unimportant and nobody cares, that the members if the SCOTUS are decided on in a partisan manner. It's mad.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 19-09-2020 9:54am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Its lunacy...the whole thing is premised on the assumption that the judge wont park their personal bias and uphold the law

Surely noone will rise far enough to become judge in top courts,if their decisions are riddled with political bias.....if they do america has a lot worse problems,than worrying about who gets this job

This is pretty much the case. Debate is more along the lines of conservatism v liberalism in the US rather than on the issue at hand. It's a very divided place at the moment for that reason.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 19-09-2020 9:54am

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Nothing specific but the framework will be there for a 5-3 majority were a decision to be taken. For all the good she did RBG was far too left aligned

By your standards, everyone is.

She brought balance, like it or not. A 5-4 majority now a 5-3 majority is not balance.

uptherebels · 19-09-2020 9:55am

Eric Cartman wrote: »

A pioneering woman and someone who will be rightfully remembered for her work, however she probably wasnt going to make it to 2025 anyway.

This should tip the balance of the supreme court now and allow America to re-establish its conservative views. Anyone know who the potentials are ?

And inb4 they get accused of sex assault like kavanaugh

You mean allow "conservatives" re-establish their views

hotmail.com · 19-09-2020 9:55am

Oh no, someone most people in Ireland has never heard of died.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 19-09-2020 9:58am

hotmail.com wrote: »

Oh no, someone most people in Ireland has never heard of died.

Speak for yourself!! Anyone who paid any attention to US politics - which is most of us - knew exactly who she was!

Itts not like she was never us the news.

19-09-2020 10:00am

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

Says the lad who claimed that the Varadkar assault was ‘staged’.

Stay on topic or be reported. Did my opinion offend you? Welcome to the internet.

19-09-2020 10:01am

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

And that caanabis selling should have the death penalty!

Same to you. Argue the thread.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 19-09-2020 10:04am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Same to you. Argue the thread.

Calling it a **** show is not arguing the thread!!

Rodney Bathgate · 19-09-2020 10:04am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Stay on topic or be reported. Did my opinion offend you? Welcome to the internet.

You think I’m offended? No, just pointing out your ridiculous hypocrisy.

You contributed to the Varadkar thread being a ‘**** show’. Pot, meet kettle.

Danzy · 19-09-2020 10:06am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I know....but may be the idealist in me....but to me,a judge should be able to rule againest their own personal bias and not be swayed by emotions to uphold the law

Personal bias is not being swayed by emotion.

You can have differing opinions on a case and bring to bear ones massive legal experience, case knowledge.

RGB wasn't impartial, far from it. It can be argued that she was the least impartial Judge on the bench.

She applied her interpretation of the law, bringing her vast knowledge, her understanding and experience of it.

Rodney Bathgate · 19-09-2020 10:08am

Would be good to see Trump get the appointment done and dusted before the election.

Timberrrrrrrr · 19-09-2020 10:10am

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

Would be good to see Trump get the appointment done and dusted before the election.

For what reasons?

Danzy · 19-09-2020 10:10am

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

Would be good to see Trump get the appointment done and dusted before the election.

One can hope.

Pelezico · 19-09-2020 10:11am

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

Would be good to see Trump get the appointment done and dusted before the election.

Absolutely...we need fewer pinko liberals on the supreme court and more old fashioned sensible conservatism.

weisses · 19-09-2020 10:12am

Deleted User wrote: »

Reported for not staying on topic.

Can you report me as well please ... your posts are turning this thread into a ****show

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 19-09-2020 10:12am

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

Would be good to see Trump get the appointment done and dusted before the election.

Why? Who do you see him appointing and what do you think this person brings to the table?

antix80 · 19-09-2020 10:13am

Danzy wrote: »

RGB wasn't impartial, far from it. It can be argued that she was the least impartial Judge on the bench.

"My most fervent wish is that I will not be replaced until a new president is installed," And then she breathed her last.

Danzy · 19-09-2020 10:13am

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

For what reasons?

To have the chance of a clear majority judgement if there are issues around the election.

Reduce political instability, have a functioning supreme court etc.

Danzy · 19-09-2020 10:15am

antix80 wrote: »

"My most fervent wish is that I will not be replaced until a new president is installed," And then she breathed her last.

That's nice.

A personal anecdote for her family and friends to remember.

Irrelevant to the operations of the Supreme Court and American governance.

Timberrrrrrrr · 19-09-2020 10:15am

Danzy wrote: »

To have the chance of a clear majority judgement if there are issues around the election.

The issue i see here is that if Trump loses he will claim issues about the election and his loaded SC will try to install him as president/dictator.

Reduce political instability, have a functioning supreme court etc.

When has the SC not functioned?

Pelezico · 19-09-2020 10:17am

antix80 wrote: »

"My most fervent wish is that I will not be replaced until a new president is installed," And then she breathed her last.

I cringe when I read that. A darling of the liberals had the audacity to suggest how she should be replaced.

She will be deified now.

Danzy · 19-09-2020 10:18am

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

The issue i see here is that if Trump loses he will claim issues about the election and his loaded SC will try to install him as president/dictator.

When has the SC not functioned?

A 4/4 split doesn't guarantee clarity.

weisses · 19-09-2020 10:20am

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

The issue i see here is that if Trump loses he will claim issues about the election and his loaded SC will try to install him as president/dictator.

I do think the SC deserves a bit more credit ... They will not act merely because Trump claims something .... I will even go as far that if you ask every member personally they want Trump out

namloc1980 · 19-09-2020 10:20am

Danzy wrote: »

To have the chance of a clear majority judgement if there are issues around the election.

Reduce political instability, have a functioning supreme court etc.

The Republicans had no issue with a vacant seat on the Supreme Court for 14 months after Scalia died in February 2016 and that was in an election year too.

Rodney Bathgate · 19-09-2020 10:21am

No idea who he will seek to appoint.

We have seen that the Democrats will embrace any crazy idea, the marxist BLM movement being the latest. **** like CHOP/CHAZ and the riots and looting that have been going on for months in ‘liberal’ cities like Portland and Seattle with the support of the Democrat mayors/governors etc.

Having a stronger conservative majority will hopefully protect the country from these lunatics attempting to roll back fundamental stuff like property rights (for ‘reparations’) and gun ownership rights. Plus anything around the death penalty.

weisses · 19-09-2020 10:22am

Pelezico wrote: »

I cringe when I read that. A darling of the liberals had the audacity to suggest how she should be replaced.

She will be deified now.

You cringe easily it seems

Rodney Bathgate · 19-09-2020 10:23am

Pelezico wrote: »

I cringe when I read that. A darling of the liberals had the audacity to suggest how she should be replaced.

She will be deified now.

Did she have the audacity to name her preferred successor?

Pelezico · 19-09-2020 10:23am

weisses wrote: »

You cringe easily it seems

Indeed...nothing more amusing than a bristling liberal.

weisses · 19-09-2020 10:25am

Pelezico wrote: »

Indeed...nothing more amusing than a bristling liberal.

So is it cringing or amusing ? Or can you do both at the same time ?

Pelezico · 19-09-2020 10:25am

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

Did she have the audacity to name her preferred successor?

Thank goodness no. But she should have retired years ago. She kept the seat warm for what she hoped was another pinko liberal.

Eric Cartman · 19-09-2020 10:26am

antix80 wrote: »

"My most fervent wish is that I will not be replaced until a new president is installed," And then she breathed her last.

Also on this

1) its not that I disbelieve she said it but it just seems an odd thing to say on your deathbed, family member with an agenda made it up perhaps ?

2) if she did say it, wow Donny T had some major free real estate in her mind, your last thought on this earth is about donald trump....

Rodney Bathgate · 19-09-2020 10:26am

Pelezico wrote: »

Thank goodness no. But she should have retired years ago. She kept the seat warm for what she hoped was another pinko liberal.

Spite is a powerful motive.

Ruth Bader Ginsburg dies at 87

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