New Met Éireann Website (beta)

JCX BXC wrote: »

The figures have dissapeared from Met Eireanns temperature forecast. So with no scale or no figure, it's simply a chart of meaningless colours.

Probably unleashed it to some software students for the summer holidays.

learn wrote: »

In the agricultural data report, why is a nonsensical value always given for Gurteen's percentage of average sunshine ?

Only a population of 393 so it doesn't really matter

Pompous wrote: »

At first I was excited for the new rainfall radar but then I realised the website is a mess. Navigating from one place to another is extremely difficult and sometimes it seems the site is just broken. For some reason every time I visit it, it's trying to detect my location and puts me in a different town every time but never the town I'm actually in.

It's an unusable disaster and I can't believe someone was paid to develop it. If the old archive site ever becomes unavailable I'll be finding a new site to visit.

Agreed 100%. I've given up on that new site months ago, still using the old one plus Netweather and a few others.

Can't believe how ME accepted such a poorly designed and executed excuse for a website

stevenup7002 wrote: »

I do use the outlook on the new site though. Apart from the random location changing as Pompous said, and the awkward sudden change in time scaling beyond two days, I find it useful.

Yeah, as useful as an ash tray on a motorbike!

Used the temp map during the heatwave as in fairness, it is handy enough, but use the old site for everything else, but even on that, they have dropped the idea of having Atlantic frontal charts. The new Atlantic, non frontal charts on the new site just does no cut it for me. Maybe I am a traditionalist in this regard, but I don't care.


Also, on the app, my 'current temp' is nearly always off. Must be using Mace Hd readings or something for my location which is useless in the extreme. Would be better if they used the Harmonie temp projection for the current hour or something for any given location as it would be more representative.


All in all, I haven't changed my mind or 'come around' to the idea of this new site at all. Clunky, bulky, too many 'cookie consent', 'new forecast updated' 'can we use your location' notifications going on when you first go on the site. Too much clicking involved before you can even get to view the home page properly. And that all invasive, one toned blue, just horrible.

Does anyone know why ME now have Atlantic charts with warm and cold fronts/occlusions omitted?




The Met Office of course, does it properly.

t00036792 wrote: »

Sorry Met Eireann, i gave it a chance and i hate it. Want radar images, want pressure charts, want the lot! Please leave the old system in place for weather-lovers like me.

http://archive.met.ie/

But not sure how long they will keep it alive ...

Comhra wrote: »

Does anyone know why ME now have Atlantic charts with warm and cold fronts/occlusions omitted?




The Met Office of course, does it properly.

Not only that, but the perspective of that map is all wrong. Greenland and Scandinavia both look disproportionally enormous compared to the rest of Europe. This, in turn, distorts the look of the weather patterns also. Even small lows and highs will look huge the further north they are on such a 'flat' map. I could never understand the reasoning as to why such false perspective maps like this are used in the first place.

Is there any way to change the timescale on the new radar map?
The old gave about 6 hours of images but the new one is only 2 which is not much help tbh, even 6 hours wasn't quite enough  but now it's practically useless to me.

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Something that's bugged me for a while is how met.ie stick to weather outlooks based on the provinces (plus Dublin on it's own for some equally questionable reason).

Weather does not work like this.

I live in east Waterford so using the Met site and putting in my location as Waterford City I get a forecast outlook that is almost irrelevant. Fine for Tralee or even Cork so I've given them New Ross to base my chances of getting wet on. Predictably it much more useful, so if the weather people are reading this please re-configure your regional forecasts to NW/SW/NE/SE/Midlands and drop Dublin, simply no need for that.

This is a bit crude but you get the idea.

I agree. Galway is on the border. So you have to look at two regional forecasts & take an average

Are there any statistics published (I presume they made a proper research) what are visitors looking for mostly while going to Met Eireann website: type(rains/sun) -or- temperature -or- winds -or- rain gauge ?
I go to old archive website mainly for rainfall radar, it tells me most information I need.

downwiththatsor wrote: »

The 3hr and short range forecasts are now gone from the archive site
"This product is no longer being produced. Please view the alternative hourly Numerical Weather Prediction model forecast images on the weather map at the top of our homepage at www.met.ie"

:mad: so mad about, the one on new site is just not useable. I am the weather buff in my household, but everyone in the house still uses the archive site because the content there is easy to understand. I am sure I would be happy to use the new site if it had the same clear content of the archive site

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Something that's bugged me for a while is how met.ie stick to weather outlooks based on the provinces (plus Dublin on it's own for some equally questionable reason).

Weather does not work like this.

I live in east Waterford so using the Met site and putting in my location as Waterford City I get a forecast outlook that is almost irrelevant. Fine for Tralee or even Cork so I've given them New Ross to base my chances of getting wet on. Predictably it much more useful, so if the weather people are reading this please re-configure your regional forecasts to NW/SW/NE/SE/Midlands and drop Dublin, simply no need for that.

This is a bit crude but you get the idea.

All you have done is to shift your problem t othe guys in Dungarvan.

axe2grind wrote: »

:mad: so mad about, the one on new site is just not useable. I am the weather buff in my household, but everyone in the house still uses the archive site because the content there is easy to understand. I am sure I would be happy to use the new site if it had the same clear content of the archive site

I agree, can anyone recommend a user friendly short range forecast map as I find the playback and ability to step through the Rainfall forecast map in app poor, a step button or seamless playback might improve it but prefered old one.

Deleted User wrote: »

Let me explain, on the new site you got a big ass map

Some users were not smart enough to use zoom on their phones / computers to zoom in old map.

I'd don't know what to believe on their page any more for forecasts.
The top of their page for Waterford City today says showers


You look at hourly one and no rain


Then on the regional its says rain in coastal area's. We are about 15km from the coast so we could fall under that


Then there is the main map for Munster and the nearest weather symbol is Cork. The others are Cahersiveen and Birr Co Offaly which is in Leinster.
The west of munster is covered yet the east is not which is stupid. There is a distance of about 120km between waterford and Cork and we have all seen there is a big difference between the weather in Cork and the weather on the east side of Munster.

I had to change my location to avoid a big blue spot obscuring the rain - why isn't it a circle ?

sumtings wrote: »

Is the top one current conditions? And looking at the netweather radar for 18:45 last night there was some rain about.

The next one is the numerical forecast which is just a pump out of the model data for your location, rain must have had a low probability when the model was generated for that location so didn't show. Probably places near you that, maybe even yours that got no rain and the forecast was very accurate for.

Then the next one is the more generalised forecast with human intervention. Good for broad strokes.

Top - There was some rain in the morning but after that not a drop and later it changed to partially cloudy when it was clear outside.

This is the national forecaster, farmers, businesses etc all rely on it and it's a joke, especially the regional maps. Shannon and Waterford both have airports so you would think they would be included also Limerick and Waterford are cities which is another reason. We see it nearly every day weather fronts that come from the Atlantic sweep up the west side of the country from Cork/Kerry to Donegal. The lads here laugh about the shield wall around Cork that seems to interfere with the weather fronts moving east.
Then look at the Leinster map which also includes Birr, it does Dublin and Wexford which are about 100km or so apart as the crow flies. Again Dublin has its own little weather system which is affected by the Isle of Man and even Wales so the weather between Dublin and Birr is going to be drastically different. We've often seen squally lines run from Tipperary town to Dundalk. Wexford is another one it's weather is affected by Wales, South England and the Continent. We are a small Island but our weather varies a great deal around the country.


Todays Munster Forecast 09 August 2018 13:00

Today
A mix of sunny spells and scattered showers today with some heavy bursts expected. Light to moderate, west to southwest winds with highest temperatures 15 to 18 degrees.

Tonight
Some scattered showers overnight, but clear spells also, especially in the east. Lowest temperatures 7 to 9 degrees, in mostly light west to southwest breezes.

Now look at todays radar, it's a fine example of weather differences for areas. There are showers along the west heading east and it's like a invisible line running through waterford country, through Kilkenny and up to Mullingar that seem to switch the rain clouds off yet the regional says showers for Munster today.