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New Met Éireann Website (beta)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    The figures have dissapeared from Met Eireanns temperature forecast. So with no scale or no figure, it's simply a chart of meaningless colours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭Joe Public


    JCX BXC wrote: »
    The figures have dissapeared from Met Eireanns temperature forecast. So with no scale or no figure, it's simply a chart of meaningless colours.

    Probably unleashed it to some software students for the summer holidays.


  • Registered Users Posts: 137 ✭✭learn


    In the agricultural data report, why is a nonsensical value always given for Gurteen's percentage of average sunshine ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭Joe Public


    learn wrote: »
    In the agricultural data report, why is a nonsensical value always given for Gurteen's percentage of average sunshine ?

    Only a population of 393 so it doesn't really matter :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,900 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    At least met.ie is simple to navigate.

    The UK Met Office has the most atrocious website of any meteorological organisation.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,693 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow




  • Registered Users Posts: 474 ✭✭askU


    Where on the new app is the current temperature at local weather station? (It was easily accessible on old app)


  • Registered Users Posts: 222 ✭✭kavanagh_h


    God, I really hate this new weather site. I give up altogether now and Im sticking to the old site. I hope they dont pull it down any time soon. You can't even see proper satelites.


  • Registered Users Posts: 650 ✭✭✭Pompous


    At first I was excited for the new rainfall radar but then I realised the website is a mess. Navigating from one place to another is extremely difficult and sometimes it seems the site is just broken. For some reason every time I visit it, it's trying to detect my location and puts me in a different town every time but never the town I'm actually in.

    It's an unusable disaster and I can't believe someone was paid to develop it. If the old archive site ever becomes unavailable I'll be finding a new site to visit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,816 ✭✭✭Comhrá


    Pompous wrote: »
    At first I was excited for the new rainfall radar but then I realised the website is a mess. Navigating from one place to another is extremely difficult and sometimes it seems the site is just broken. For some reason every time I visit it, it's trying to detect my location and puts me in a different town every time but never the town I'm actually in.

    It's an unusable disaster and I can't believe someone was paid to develop it. If the old archive site ever becomes unavailable I'll be finding a new site to visit.

    Agreed 100%. I've given up on that new site months ago, still using the old one plus Netweather and a few others.

    Can't believe how ME accepted such a poorly designed and executed excuse for a website


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  • Registered Users Posts: 160 ✭✭stevenup7002


    Yeah, I've been defaulting to the archived site for most things. It's difficult to find things on the new site, and even when I do find them, they're too frustrating to use compared to archive.met.ie or netweather.

    The way the rainfall radar loads in everything dynamically, I can never tell if there's actually no rain on the radar/forecast, or if the image just hasn't loaded yet. Have to wait 5 seconds to be sure.

    I do use the outlook on the new site though. Apart from the random location changing as Pompous said, and the awkward sudden change in time scaling beyond two days, I find it useful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭Joe Public


    I do use the outlook on the new site though. Apart from the random location changing as Pompous said, and the awkward sudden change in time scaling beyond two days, I find it useful.

    Yeah, as useful as an ash tray on a motorbike!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,970 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    I gave up on the new Beta one, I removed the app from my phone and home computer and just use the old one, I just got so frustrated trying to use the new one time to bin it I think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    Used the temp map during the heatwave as in fairness, it is handy enough, but use the old site for everything else, but even on that, they have dropped the idea of having Atlantic frontal charts. The new Atlantic, non frontal charts on the new site just does no cut it for me. Maybe I am a traditionalist in this regard, but I don't care.


    Also, on the app, my 'current temp' is nearly always off. Must be using Mace Hd readings or something for my location which is useless in the extreme. Would be better if they used the Harmonie temp projection for the current hour or something for any given location as it would be more representative.


    All in all, I haven't changed my mind or 'come around' to the idea of this new site at all. Clunky, bulky, too many 'cookie consent', 'new forecast updated' 'can we use your location' notifications going on when you first go on the site. Too much clicking involved before you can even get to view the home page properly. And that all invasive, one toned blue, just horrible.

    New Moon



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,908 ✭✭✭zom


    Since when they replaced their new expensive MOBILE_FRIENDLY website with app?
    Smartphone Users: the homepage weather information is best viewed on the new Met Éireann app - please download from your app store.

    What was the point to make new website then?
    Well - I presume app is collecting commercial data about users and means a real profit for Met Éireann, so that's why they convince people to use app instead of web.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,816 ✭✭✭Comhrá


    Does anyone know why ME now have Atlantic charts with warm and cold fronts/occlusions omitted?

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    The Met Office of course, does it properly.

    73580165


  • Registered Users Posts: 1 t00036792


    Sorry Met Eireann, i gave it a chance and i hate it. Want radar images, want pressure charts, want the lot! Please leave the old system in place for weather-lovers like me. People who want cloud-scribbles and sunny faces can have the new system. Seriously though, everyone of my colleagues hates it! Will have to resort to the cows facing west or lying down if not or will have to switch allegiances to the UK Met office. New system looks like it was made for idiots!!!
    Cant hack it!
    Ger


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,908 ✭✭✭zom


    t00036792 wrote: »
    Sorry Met Eireann, i gave it a chance and i hate it. Want radar images, want pressure charts, want the lot! Please leave the old system in place for weather-lovers like me.

    http://archive.met.ie/

    But not sure how long they will keep it alive ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭Joe Public


    The future of met.ie will be a dumbed down site with just symbols. Pressure charts, rainfall radar and any of the good stuff will be a state secret. Staff in met eireann will be replaced by automated weather generating programmes to deliver the predicted forecasts with just a handful of lower paid workers. Any contingency needs will be backed off to the UK met office.

    Any other reasons for dumbing down the website?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    Comhra wrote: »
    Does anyone know why ME now have Atlantic charts with warm and cold fronts/occlusions omitted?

    41466262250_b230daa100_c.jpg


    The Met Office of course, does it properly.

    Not only that, but the perspective of that map is all wrong. Greenland and Scandinavia both look disproportionally enormous compared to the rest of Europe. This, in turn, distorts the look of the weather patterns also. Even small lows and highs will look huge the further north they are on such a 'flat' map. I could never understand the reasoning as to why such false perspective maps like this are used in the first place.

    New Moon



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,918 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Joe Public wrote: »
    The future of met.ie will be a dumbed down site with just symbols. Pressure charts, rainfall radar and any of the good stuff will be a state secret. Staff in met eireann will be replaced by automated weather generating programmes to deliver the predicted forecasts with just a handful of lower paid workers. Any contingency needs will be backed off to the UK met office.

    Any other reasons for dumbing down the website?

    Yes so they can charge for real information ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,793 ✭✭✭Bogwoppit


    Is there any way to change the timescale on the new radar map?
    The old gave about 6 hours of images but the new one is only 2 which is not much help tbh, even 6 hours wasn't quite enough  but now it's practically useless to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,908 ✭✭✭zom


    Joe Public wrote: »
    The future of met.ie will be a dumbed down site with just symbols. Pressure charts, rainfall radar and any of the good stuff will be a state secret.

    There will be live streaming of some reality shows instead - Love Island or MetEireann Got Talent for example. Plus real time info about latest promotions and discounts near you. Plus some political agenda from our Party leaders.

    And in case you don't want to use it, Leo will block UK websites like he wants to block UK airplanes from flying over Ireland airspace.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Something that's bugged me for a while is how met.ie stick to weather outlooks based on the provinces (plus Dublin on it's own for some equally questionable reason).

    Weather does not work like this.

    I live in east Waterford so using the Met site and putting in my location as Waterford City I get a forecast outlook that is almost irrelevant. Fine for Tralee or even Cork so I've given them New Ross to base my chances of getting wet on. Predictably it much more useful, so if the weather people are reading this please re-configure your regional forecasts to NW/SW/NE/SE/Midlands and drop Dublin, simply no need for that.

    This is a bit crude but you get the idea.

    2JZKV.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Nice to see that after fixing a few teething issues, nothing has been done to the site whatsoever in the last several weeks. Still issues with the app telling me I'm in Dublin, pitiful radar, no current observations, etc, but sure they can just ignore that as long as it works somewhat.

    Disappointing MÉ.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,918 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Something that's bugged me for a while is how met.ie stick to weather outlooks based on the provinces (plus Dublin on it's own for some equally questionable reason).

    Weather does not work like this.

    I live in east Waterford so using the Met site and putting in my location as Waterford City I get a forecast outlook that is almost irrelevant. Fine for Tralee or even Cork so I've given them New Ross to base my chances of getting wet on. Predictably it much more useful, so if the weather people are reading this please re-configure your regional forecasts to NW/SW/NE/SE/Midlands and drop Dublin, simply no need for that.

    This is a bit crude but you get the idea.

    I agree. Galway is on the border. So you have to look at two regional forecasts & take an average


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 915 ✭✭✭downwiththatsor


    The 3hr and short range forecasts are now gone from the archive site :(
    "This product is no longer being produced. Please view the alternative hourly Numerical Weather Prediction model forecast images on the weather map at the top of our homepage at www.met.ie"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,908 ✭✭✭zom


    Are there any statistics published (I presume they made a proper research) what are visitors looking for mostly while going to Met Eireann website: type(rains/sun) -or- temperature -or- winds -or- rain gauge ?
    I go to old archive website mainly for rainfall radar, it tells me most information I need.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 282 ✭✭twinkletoes


    What I miss most about old site is the county borders on the rainfall radar map. Really hard to know exactly where the rain is without these imo.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 585 ✭✭✭axe2grind


    The 3hr and short range forecasts are now gone from the archive site :(
    "This product is no longer being produced. Please view the alternative hourly Numerical Weather Prediction model forecast images on the weather map at the top of our homepage at www.met.ie"
    :mad: so mad about, the one on new site is just not useable. I am the weather buff in my household, but everyone in the house still uses the archive site because the content there is easy to understand. I am sure I would be happy to use the new site if it had the same clear content of the archive site


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭piuswal


    Comhra wrote: »
    Does anyone know why ME now have Atlantic charts with warm and cold fronts/occlusions omitted?

    41466262250_b230daa100_c.jpg


    The Met Office of course, does it properly.

    73580165

    I suspect it is because the inclusion of fronts usually requires manual intervention and so would be a major resource issue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭piuswal


    Something that's bugged me for a while is how met.ie stick to weather outlooks based on the provinces (plus Dublin on it's own for some equally questionable reason).

    Weather does not work like this.

    I live in east Waterford so using the Met site and putting in my location as Waterford City I get a forecast outlook that is almost irrelevant. Fine for Tralee or even Cork so I've given them New Ross to base my chances of getting wet on. Predictably it much more useful, so if the weather people are reading this please re-configure your regional forecasts to NW/SW/NE/SE/Midlands and drop Dublin, simply no need for that.

    This is a bit crude but you get the idea.

    2JZKV.jpg


    All you have done is to shift your problem t othe guys in Dungarvan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 506 ✭✭✭tiegan


    I'm sorry, I have tried the new site but I still hate it. I can still access the old site on the desktop, but can no longer access it from the new m.e. app.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 915 ✭✭✭downwiththatsor


    axe2grind wrote: »
    :mad: so mad about, the one on new site is just not useable. I am the weather buff in my household, but everyone in the house still uses the archive site because the content there is easy to understand. I am sure I would be happy to use the new site if it had the same clear content of the archive site

    I agree, can anyone recommend a user friendly short range forecast map as I find the playback and ability to step through the Rainfall forecast map in app poor, a step button or seamless playback might improve it but prefered old one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,918 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    I agree, can anyone recommend a user friendly short range forecast map as I find the playback and ability to step through the Rainfall forecast map in app poor, a step button or seamless playback might improve it but prefered old one.

    http://meteoradar.co.uk/expected-rainfall

    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.TMC.MeteoRadarCoUk

    The app is excellent. Lots of info including a 3 hour rain projection.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    piuswal wrote: »
    All you have done is to shift your problem t othe guys in Dungarvan.

    It'll never be perfect! Thinking about this a bit more as the prevailing weather is from the west maybe three bands would be better Band 1,2,3

    2K5KA.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,167 ✭✭✭Rebelbrowser


    It'll never be perfect! Thinking about this a bit more as the prevailing weather is from the west maybe three bands would be better Band 1,2,3

    2K5KA.jpg

    Not sure Cork city and Coleraine get the same weather!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Yeah I'd change the bands so they taper to the east on the border basically.

    In truth, we all know there are two only areas - Sunny South East and the rest of the island :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,850 ✭✭✭Ten Pin


    I agree, can anyone recommend a user friendly short range forecast map as I find the playback and ability to step through the Rainfall forecast map in app poor, a step button or seamless playback might improve it but prefered old one.
    https://www.meteoblue.com/en/weather/map/precipitation/ireland


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,645 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Can the developers fix the android app so that it remembers my location?

    It keeps on defaulting to Dublin.


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  • Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I really hate the new Met Eireann website.

    Let me explain, on the new site you got a big ass map in your face and I have to scroll down to get any sort of info. It serves no purpose.

    On the old site , main page has all the menus on the left that I look for without rooting through a flustered site.

    The new site needs to be cleaned up big time and uncluttered.

    Or leave the old site.

    Change is good if change is needed, however, change for the sake of change is not good.

    In other words, if it's not broke , then don't fix it. The old site was perfectly fine. No one needs fancy graphics , people want a clean site with all the information easy to find !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,908 ✭✭✭zom


    Let me explain, on the new site you got a big ass map

    Some users were not smart enough to use zoom on their phones / computers to zoom in old map.


  • Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    That's rather shocking, but I think the New site is just a disaster.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Weather forecast for tomorrow (baring in mind I'm in Waterford so using New Ross as my default)

    National
    A cloudy start to Monday for many places. Outbreaks of rain and drizzle will continue to move eastwards as the day goes, but the east and south will stay mainly dry. Clearer weather will following on from the west in the afternoon and evening. Highs of 16 to 22 degrees, coolest in the northwest and warmest in the southeast, in light to moderate southwest breezes.

    Leinster -
    Tomorrow, Monday will be mostly cloudy with some patches of light rain or drizzle. The rain and drizzle will clear from western parts of the province later in the afternoon with brighter and fresher conditions following from the west. Highest temperatures of 18 to 22 degrees in light or moderate, southwest to westerly winds.

    I'll report back and see how accurate it was.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Weather forecast for tomorrow (baring in mind I'm in Waterford so using New Ross as my default)

    National

    Leinster -

    I'll report back and see how accurate it was.

    Well.......I don't see why Leinster forecast would be more accurate. Perhaps it should be consulted for your location but it shouldn't be more accurate. I'm in Clare, and while I use Munster I'd consult the Connaught forecast sometimes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,971 ✭✭✭spookwoman


    I'd don't know what to believe on their page any more for forecasts.
    The top of their page for Waterford City today says showers
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    You look at hourly one and no rain
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    Then on the regional its says rain in coastal area's. We are about 15km from the coast so we could fall under that
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    Then there is the main map for Munster and the nearest weather symbol is Cork. The others are Cahersiveen and Birr Co Offaly which is in Leinster.
    The west of munster is covered yet the east is not which is stupid. There is a distance of about 120km between waterford and Cork and we have all seen there is a big difference between the weather in Cork and the weather on the east side of Munster.
    Yux2CQ7l.png


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Weather forecast for tomorrow (baring in mind I'm in Waterford so using New Ross as my default)

    National

    Leinster -
    Tomorrow, Monday will be mostly cloudy with some patches of light rain or drizzle. The rain and drizzle will clear from western parts of the province later in the afternoon with brighter and fresher conditions following from the west. Highest temperatures of 18 to 22 degrees in light or moderate, southwest to westerly winds

    I'll report back and see how accurate it was.

    Not at all! Dry with variable brightness all day


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,918 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    I had to change my location to avoid a big blue spot obscuring the rain - why isn't it a circle ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 265 ✭✭sumtings


    spookwoman wrote: »
    I'd don't know what to believe on their page any more for forecasts.
    The top of their page for Waterford City today says showers
    J5Ofxo0l.png

    You look at hourly one and no rain
    ocBX5VYl.png

    Then on the regional its says rain in coastal area's. We are about 15km from the coast so we could fall under that
    Hs8ZLZ6l.png

    Then there is the main map for Munster and the nearest weather symbol is Cork. The others are Cahersiveen and Birr Co Offaly which is in Leinster.
    The west of munster is covered yet the east is not which is stupid. There is a distance of about 120km between waterford and Cork and we have all seen there is a big difference between the weather in Cork and the weather on the east side of Munster.
    Yux2CQ7l.png

    Is the top one current conditions? And looking at the netweather radar for 18:45 last night there was some rain about.

    The next one is the numerical forecast which is just a pump out of the model data for your location, rain must have had a low probability when the model was generated for that location so didn't show. Probably places near you that, maybe even yours that got no rain and the forecast was very accurate for.

    Then the next one is the more generalised forecast with human intervention. Good for broad strokes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,971 ✭✭✭spookwoman


    sumtings wrote: »
    Is the top one current conditions? And looking at the netweather radar for 18:45 last night there was some rain about.

    The next one is the numerical forecast which is just a pump out of the model data for your location, rain must have had a low probability when the model was generated for that location so didn't show. Probably places near you that, maybe even yours that got no rain and the forecast was very accurate for.

    Then the next one is the more generalised forecast with human intervention. Good for broad strokes.

    Top - There was some rain in the morning but after that not a drop and later it changed to partially cloudy when it was clear outside.

    This is the national forecaster, farmers, businesses etc all rely on it and it's a joke, especially the regional maps. Shannon and Waterford both have airports so you would think they would be included also Limerick and Waterford are cities which is another reason. We see it nearly every day weather fronts that come from the Atlantic sweep up the west side of the country from Cork/Kerry to Donegal. The lads here laugh about the shield wall around Cork that seems to interfere with the weather fronts moving east.
    Then look at the Leinster map which also includes Birr, it does Dublin and Wexford which are about 100km or so apart as the crow flies. Again Dublin has its own little weather system which is affected by the Isle of Man and even Wales so the weather between Dublin and Birr is going to be drastically different. We've often seen squally lines run from Tipperary town to Dundalk. Wexford is another one it's weather is affected by Wales, South England and the Continent. We are a small Island but our weather varies a great deal around the country.


    Todays Munster Forecast 09 August 2018 13:00

    Today
    A mix of sunny spells and scattered showers today with some heavy bursts expected. Light to moderate, west to southwest winds with highest temperatures 15 to 18 degrees.

    Tonight
    Some scattered showers overnight, but clear spells also, especially in the east. Lowest temperatures 7 to 9 degrees, in mostly light west to southwest breezes.


    Now look at todays radar, it's a fine example of weather differences for areas. There are showers along the west heading east and it's like a invisible line running through waterford country, through Kilkenny and up to Mullingar that seem to switch the rain clouds off yet the regional says showers for Munster today.


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