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Spiced Beef?

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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,976 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    cee_jay wrote: »
    I tried it for the first time 2 Christmases ago and it was so good! It is beautiful for a sandwich. Pick up a piece in the local butcher - you won't regret it!

    Well that's the arm twisted haha


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,865 ✭✭✭TRS30


    As mentioned before, we have it every year as my Dad is a massive fan. Has grown on me over the years I must admit and would probably miss it if we didn't get it now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,061 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    Anyone know where this can be bought in the Midlands?


  • Registered Users Posts: 649 ✭✭✭DuffleBag


    Quazzie wrote: »
    Anyone know where this can be bought in the Midlands?

    O'Crualai's deliver nationwide. One of the more popular butchers in Cork. Few diff sizes too by the looks of it.

    https://www.ocrualaoi.com/product-category/family-favourites/ff_beef/page/2/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,061 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    DuffleBag wrote: »
    O'Crualai's deliver nationwide. One of the more popular butchers in Cork. Few diff sizes too by the looks of it.

    https://www.ocrualaoi.com/product-category/family-favourites/ff_beef/page/2/

    Not giving me an option to deliver, only to pickup from Witon, Fermoy or Ballincollig

    EDIT: Apologies, just spotted it's min €30 order for delivery


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,262 ✭✭✭✭Autosport


    You can buy it in most butchers or supermarkets :) I absolutely love it :)


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 27,642 Mod ✭✭✭✭Posy


    I have never tried it either.
    Maybe I'll give it a go this year, as a lot of my usual Christmas activities will be off the list!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    A Cork thing afaik.

    Googled it a bit and
    https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-20259141.html
    “Spiced beef and the production of spiced beef is something which is a cultural tradition in Cork dating back to the 18th century when it was used to preserve the meat.
    “Spiced beef recipes date back in Cork families and businesses for generations and it would be a shame, given its increasing popularity, if these traditions were to be lost in favour of an imitation product.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiced_beef
    "There is a round of spiced beef accompanying a great ham and a magnificent goose at the Misses Morkan's Christmas dance in James Joyce's short story, "The Dead". There is still spiced beef aplenty at butchers' shops in Cork, although it is primarily a Christmas speciality."

    Either way, it's yummy. I put mustard on but that's me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 589 ✭✭✭aisling86




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,810 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    Quazzie wrote: »
    Anyone know where this can be bought in the Midlands?

    James Whelan stock it also and they are in a few Dunnes. Have a look around tough it can often be in shops.




    https://www.jameswhelanbutchers.com/proddetail.php?prod=6601


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,865 ✭✭✭TRS30


    Wednesday 4th November forever remembered as the day of the Spiced Beef!

    What will tomorrow bring?? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,573 ✭✭✭tscul32


    My OH spotted it in the Aldi Christmas book the other day and decided we should try it sometime over Christmas. Christmas sambos are a big thing in our house, spiced beef sounds perfect for them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭cee_jay


    The last 2 years I got it in FX Buckley butchers. There is one right beside work which I pass on the way to the Luas - pre Covid and working from home. (I used to get a lot of our meat there, and miss their banter in the evenings). I will drive into the city centre once Level 5 is lifted to get it from them I think!


  • Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,947 Mod ✭✭✭✭Neyite


    We had it last year and it was really lovely. It's going to be a regular in our house every Christmas.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,751 ✭✭✭mirrorwall14


    I think I'm going to get it early this year actually and use it for sandwiches in December. While I like it a lot, there's so much other nice food on the Christmas days I'd like the chance to play around with sandwiches etc and since I'm working from home....


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 27,642 Mod ✭✭✭✭Posy


    I bought a batch loaf last Christmas eve, and it just made the nicest Christmas sandwiches. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,474 ✭✭✭VG31


    We have it in our house every year. It's my favourite part of the Christmas Dinner! :) My grandparents are from Cork, not many people seem to have it in Dublin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,554 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    Quazzie wrote: »
    Anyone know where this can be bought in the Midlands?

    I've seen it in Supervalu's and Dunnes but usually closer to Xmas time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 754 ✭✭✭Timistry


    We are starting to make it next week so its ready for Dec 10th or so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,310 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Bumping this. What sauce goes best with spiced beef in a sandwich? Horseradish or something sweet?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,554 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    Cienciano wrote: »
    Bumping this. What sauce goes best with spiced beef in a sandwich? Horseradish or something sweet?

    I don't put any sauce on it.Cut it as thin as possible and load it into a crusty bread roll .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭cee_jay


    I got it in SuperValu in Limerick yesterday and cooked it last night. The house was full of Christmas smells.

    When making a sandwich, I like a nice mustard, preferably dijon, with salad leaves. Cut it very thinly. If no dijon, maybe some mayo with english mustard.


  • Registered Users Posts: 96 ✭✭ShamrockAir


    2 slices of butter bread. Sliced spiced beef in it. Cover with grated cheese and in to the microwave for 1 min.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,262 ✭✭✭✭Autosport


    Fresh bread and spiced beef with some chef brown sauce :) Divine!!!


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 27,642 Mod ✭✭✭✭Posy


    Boiled my beef this morning for an hour and a half. Can't wait for sambos. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 754 ✭✭✭Timistry


    Posy, Once boiled, keep in the water overnight and allow to cool. Put the spices back over it and put in tin foil. Slice thinly and eat cold.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Timistry wrote: »
    Posy, Once boiled, keep in the water overnight and allow to cool. Put the spices back over it and put in tin foil. Slice thinly and eat cold.


    Thinner the better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,495 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I thought it was a Cork thing, tastes like cornbeef brisket


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,860 ✭✭✭Mrsmum


    I bought it last year. Yuck. Like eating beef that a bottle of perfume spilt all over it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭dePeatrick


    It's not a Cork thing, I have been eating it in the midlands since I was a kid and trust me that was a long long time ago... I researched it years back as it was the only dish I had come across that only people in the midlands were aware of and sure enough it was only available in the midlands centuries ago. I lived and worked in Cork and introduced dozens of people to it, none had ever come across it before but in true Cork fashion they now claim to be the originator of it. :(

    So after decades of promoting it I now see both Dublin and Cork claiming it as their own, not like we in the midlands can claim many dishes as ours but thar ya go...paper never refuses ink and Cork and Dublin people are desperate to claim any cuisine as theirs, I wonder why?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,507 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Love me the spiced beef, but it's really nice hot out of the pot, no need to wait for it to cool.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,277 ✭✭✭poisonated


    I really like it. It’s a tradition in my family.


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,336 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    dePeatrick wrote: »
    It's not a Cork thing, I have been eating it in the midlands since I was a kid and trust me that was a long long time ago... I researched it years back as it was the only dish I had come across that only people in the midlands were aware of and sure enough it was only available in the midlands centuries ago. I lived and worked in Cork and introduced dozens of people to it, none had ever come across it before but in true Cork fashion they now claim to be the originator of it. :(

    So after decades of promoting it I now see both Dublin and Cork claiming it as their own, not like we in the midlands can claim many dishes as ours but thar ya go...paper never refuses ink and Cork and Dublin people are desperate to claim any cuisine as theirs, I wonder why?

    Well to be honest, as a Dub you can keep it, I wouldn't be rushing to claim it as it's awful stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    I think it came from England a few hundred years ago but has largely died out there but was kept here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,567 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    As far as I know ,it was how beef was preserved in the past , so anywhere that was in involved
    in the provisioning trade ( barreled beef for ships ) would have done it ,
    If you get the outside bit it's manky .. but the rest is as good as any pastrami ...

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,476 ✭✭✭✭DvB


    dePeatrick wrote: »
    It's not a Cork thing, I have been eating it in the midlands since I was a kid and trust me that was a long long time ago... I researched it years back as it was the only dish I had come across that only people in the midlands were aware of and sure enough it was only available in the midlands centuries ago. I lived and worked in Cork and introduced dozens of people to it, none had ever come across it before but in true Cork fashion they now claim to be the originator of it. :(

    So after decades of promoting it I now see both Dublin and Cork claiming it as their own, not like we in the midlands can claim many dishes as ours but thar ya go...paper never refuses ink and Cork and Dublin people are desperate to claim any cuisine as theirs, I wonder why?

    As a dub, born and bred i can hand on heart say I've never ever heard of spiced beef being claimed as a Dublin dish. Remember hearing about it on here and asking around about it, universally it was described back to me as a Cork area thing.
    "I will honour Christmas in my heart, and try to keep it all the year" - Charles Dickens




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,474 ✭✭✭VG31


    DvB wrote: »
    As a dub, born and bred i can hand on heart say I've never ever heard of spiced beef being claimed as a Dublin dish. Remember hearing about it on here and asking around about it, universally it was described back to me as a Cork area thing.

    Same here. I've only ever heard of it being originally from Cork.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 27,642 Mod ✭✭✭✭Posy


    I assumed it was a Cork thing too, never heard of it in Dublin at all!
    The last of my beef was devoured tonight on batch bread, sooo good. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,896 ✭✭✭Cork Lass


    dePeatrick wrote: »
    It's not a Cork thing, I have been eating it in the midlands since I was a kid and trust me that was a long long time ago... I researched it years back as it was the only dish I had come across that only people in the midlands were aware of and sure enough it was only available in the midlands centuries ago. I lived and worked in Cork and introduced dozens of people to it, none had ever come across it before but in true Cork fashion they now claim to be the originator of it. :(

    So after decades of promoting it I now see both Dublin and Cork claiming it as their own, not like we in the midlands can claim many dishes as ours but thar ya go...paper never refuses ink and Cork and Dublin people are desperate to claim any cuisine as theirs, I wonder why?

    100% wrong. This is absolutely a Cork tradition.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭dePeatrick


    30 years ago no one in Cork had ever heard of it, I introduced it to Cork people and have watched how over the decades it has been adopted and now stated as their own. I had reason to research it over 30 years back and the only historical reference in existence referring to Spiced Beef came from the Midlands.

    Now there are dozens particularly in Cork claiming century old traditions of making it. Doesn’t matter in the scheme of things, just interesting to watch something like this happen and see how greedy people can be to claim something as their own.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,896 ✭✭✭Cork Lass


    dePeatrick wrote: »
    30 years ago no one in Cork had ever heard of it, I introduced it to Cork people and have watched how over the decades it has been adopted and now stated as their own. I had reason to research it over 30 years back and the only historical reference in existence referring to Spiced Beef came from the Midlands.

    Now there are dozens particularly in Cork claiming century old traditions of making it. Doesn’t matter in the scheme of things, just interesting to watch something like this happen and see how greedy people can be to claim something as their own.

    Like I said previously - you are 100% wrong on this. I’m late 50’s and have been eating this since childhood as did my parents and grandparents before me. I’ll just leave this with you:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiced_beef

    You’re welcome :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,474 ✭✭✭VG31


    dePeatrick wrote: »
    30 years ago no one in Cork had ever heard of it, I introduced it to Cork people and have watched how over the decades it has been adopted and now stated as their own. I had reason to research it over 30 years back and the only historical reference in existence referring to Spiced Beef came from the Midlands.

    Wow! You personally introduced it to Cork people? :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,474 ✭✭✭VG31


    Cork Lass wrote: »
    Like I said previously - you are 100% wrong on this. I’m late 50’s and have been eating this since childhood as did my parents and grandparents before me. I’ll just leave this with you:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiced_beef

    You’re welcome :)

    My grandparents are from Cork, they've been eating spiced beef for a lot longer than 30 years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,262 ✭✭✭✭Autosport


    My family are from Kilkenny and they have always eaten Spiced beef :) Not just a Cork thing ;)


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 27,642 Mod ✭✭✭✭Posy


    My family are all from Kilkenny and none of them ever heard of having spiced beef! It's funny how everyone is different. :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,262 ✭✭✭✭Autosport


    Posy wrote: »
    My family are all from Kilkenny and none of them ever heard of having spiced beef! It's funny how everyone is different. :D

    Depends on what side of the county :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,476 ✭✭✭✭DvB


    Autosport wrote: »
    Depends on what side of the county :D

    Just asked my cousin from Ballyhale, his text back, word for word... 'wouldn't touch that cork shi+e'

    Take from that what you will.
    "I will honour Christmas in my heart, and try to keep it all the year" - Charles Dickens




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,262 ✭✭✭✭Autosport


    DvB wrote: »
    Just asked my cousin from Ballyhale, his text back, word for word... 'wouldn't touch that cork shi+e'

    Take from that what you will.

    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,896 ✭✭✭Cork Lass


    DvB wrote: »
    Just asked my cousin from Ballyhale, his text back, word for word... 'wouldn't touch that cork shi+e'

    Take from that what you will.

    I take from that the recognition of it being from Cork - which is true :D


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 27,642 Mod ✭✭✭✭Posy


    Case closed. :D


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