Grand slam of darts 2018

sc86 · 19-11-2018 11:07am

alan partridge aha wrote: »

Because he was beaten fair and square. Very poor if he didn't.

if you were ando would you have shook his hand? doubt it
i wouldnt - not sure about fair and square - on the board yes , but gamesmanship was brought to new level

i think some people are letting their dislike of ando cloud their judgement on what happened

that said , if i was price and i knew that was my only hope to win the game , id do the same no problem

Bob Harris · 19-11-2018 11:35am

Mardle was on last night about Ando entering the encroachment area too early.

The rule says 'a player's opponent must stand behind the tape encroachment line at the rear of the player at the oche (1.5m). A player standing inside this line while their opponent is playing a shot shall forfeit the next throw'.

You can't see from the camera angle but like a lot of fast players Ando was well inside the line but most likely only after Price had thrown his 3 darts so he has played his shot.

The rule is only loosely followed anyway as a lot of players aren't off the side of the oche when the players like Ando and MvG are throwing their first dart.

Refs tend to be slow to get involved but a word to Price not to be wasting time roaring and fist pumping every ton plus score wouldn't go astray. Other than that there is no harm in someone making a breakthrough into the top tier of the sport and putting the cat amongst the pigeons.

SlickRic · 19-11-2018 12:05pm

just to note, i have no problem with a new person making a splash. at all.

just not him.

he's conducive to me switching off the TV i'm afraid.

marklazarcovic · 19-11-2018 12:09pm

I.like Ando but he was a tool , should have just played his game, stepped back and he would have won,he played prices game and lost, fare
play price..

Gary just wants to 'play darts' bang bang bang, he needs to learn other players like to play differently.

sc86 · 19-11-2018 12:21pm

it was nearly a carbon copy of mensur suljovic v ando in the champions league final last year
only diff is mensur was doing what he always done , gary lost the plot and cost him the game

SlickRic · 19-11-2018 1:51pm

sc86 wrote: »

it was nearly a carbon copy of mensur suljovic v ando in the champions league final last year
only diff is mensur was doing what he always done , gary lost the plot and cost him the game

and also, Suljovic isn't a scrote.

alan partridge aha · 19-11-2018 2:17pm

SlickRic wrote: »

Gary Anderson can be very tetchy.
He's also ridiculously aggressive on the oche, and doesn't need to be stalking his opponent as they've finished throwing. that's not on, and he should be told to calm down.

But good Christ to fúck there are levels to this, and Gerwyn Price is a shíthouse. plain and simple.

celebrating every 140, never mind 180.
giving it socks after every leg he wins.
it's sad. it's pathetic. it's unsportsmanlike.
Gary should deal with it better, but it doesn't make Price's behaviour in any way right.

i'll be honest, i only watched because it was the final. and it was a mistake. Price's games are fúcking unwatchable because he's so detestable. i didn't watch any Premier League match he was in, and I won't watch any match he's in at the Worlds, even if he miraculously makes the final. he's just a horrible little scrote.

honestly, if he's carrying on like that, i'd just whisper 'díckhead' every time he comes past me after his turn. every time. just whisper it. just enough that he can hear it.

Disagree completely, I'll defo watch Price and see how opponents react. I'd say you could whisper what you liked to Price and he couldn't care less. The crowd were on his back and he fed off it.

I thought someone said Ando's wife was on about Price before any final.

It will liven it up a bit if nothing else. I will say one thing Price has really improved.

sc86 · 19-11-2018 2:36pm

dont think hes improved , hes upped the antics
1/4 final and final won by antics
he has been solid last few months for sure
97 average or whatever it is isnt setting the world alight by todays high standards

SlickRic · 19-11-2018 4:29pm

the other thing is, people are getting on Ando's back for not shaking his hand.

honestly, Price never once even looks in that direction anyway. he has zero interest. he has no respect for any of his opponents, and he seems to have little respect even for the likes of Russ Bray.

in the Whitlock QF, Price doesn't even look at Simon as Simon goes to congratulate him. he just touches his hand and looks past him.

Mensur is gracious in the SF, but you can see Price has no interest.

and as i said, in the final, he doesn't even look in Gary's direction once.

he's a tosser. if you're into that sort of thing, wanting a pantomime villain to wind everyone up, then great. but i need there to be something endearing about him to want to watch him. and there's nothing there for me. 'him getting better' isn't a reason to watch him IMO.

sc86 · 19-11-2018 4:46pm

i think long term this will **** him up with crowds etc , when things are not going so well
paul nicolson tried to be the villan also years ago , won players championships , chatting crap about other players etc
he said 1 day - tell taylor im comming for him!
it ended up getting to him and it took him years to shake it
i dont think price is as fragile mentally but you saw what the premier league done to him

ArmaniJeanss · 19-11-2018 4:57pm

Slightly surprising lack of respect from a rugby background - as I understand it (never played) in rugby it's normal to heckle and bash your opponent throughout a game and look for every dark edge, but at the final whistle it should be hugs, respect and a beer.

I did find it a fun game, probably been more posts after it here than any other final in years so he's definitely having an effect.

sc86 · 19-11-2018 4:59pm

he was rugby league i think ? they seam a different bunch to rugby union

alan partridge aha · 19-11-2018 5:02pm

SlickRic wrote: »

the other thing is, people are getting on Ando's back for not shaking his hand.

honestly, Price never once even looks in that direction anyway. he has zero interest. he has no respect for any of his opponents, and he seems to have little respect even for the likes of Russ Bray.

in the Whitlock QF, Price doesn't even look at Simon as Simon goes to congratulate him. he just touches his hand and looks past him.

Mensur is gracious in the SF, but you can see Price has no interest.

and as i said, in the final, he doesn't even look in Gary's direction once.

he's a tosser. if you're into that sort of thing, wanting a pantomime villain to wind everyone up, then great. but i need there to be something endearing about him to want to watch him. and there's nothing there for me. 'him getting better' isn't a reason to watch him IMO.

Ya Gary ran off when he was beaten. It was a terrific result for Price. Beat Durrant in a cracker, Whitlock two 170 finished to beat Price 5 4 in another cracker.

Then beat Payne, Simon, Mensur and Ando. Hats off I say.

ArmaniJeanss · 19-11-2018 5:02pm

sc86 wrote: »

he was rugby league i think ? they seam a different bunch to rugby union

Both league and union assuming his wiki is accurate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerwyn_Price#Rugby

Bob Harris · 19-11-2018 5:03pm

sc86 wrote: »

he was rugby league i think ? they seam a different bunch to rugby union

I thought it was that too but it seems he played in both codes.
A professional in three different sports. Quite the role model!

sc86 · 19-11-2018 5:30pm

barry hearn on a horn on sky talking about the issue

Degag · 19-11-2018 8:07pm

alan partridge aha wrote: »

BS he had plenty of oppurtunities, he ran off stage immediately after both the match and presentation.

Watch directly after the match again. Price went nuts celebrating. Went and shook the referee/markers hands and then went celebrating again. Didn't even look at Gary.

Now you can say that Gary could have shook his hand when they came back on stage for the prizegiving but i'd say Price had as much interest in it as Anderson did.

Not really defending Anderson, think his behaviour was as bad as Price's during the game - I can't criticise him for not shaking hands though.

RebelButtMunch · 19-11-2018 10:00pm

While I deplore prices carry on he defeated a better player. The top lads are going to have to up their game to handle him

alan partridge aha · 19-11-2018 10:04pm

Degag wrote: »

Watch directly after the match again. Price went nuts celebrating. Went and shook the referee/markers hands and then went celebrating again. Didn't even look at Gary.

Now you can say that Gary could have shook his hand when they came back on stage for the prizegiving but i'd say Price had as much interest in it as Anderson did.

Not really defending Anderson, think his behaviour was as bad as Price's during the game - I can't criticise him for not shaking hands though.

Did watch it again, obviously he'd celebrate after winning his 1st big title, after that retrieved his darts, shook hands with officials and then Ando gone.

He should have stayed on the stage and shook hands and not ran off after a few seconds.

boomdocker · 19-11-2018 10:38pm

Referees need to be more involved. They are supposed to be referees after all, not just score callers
Russ Bray did have a word with Price in the Whitlock game , if I remember last night
A good ref there last night could have nipped that whole ****eshow in the bud

ThebitterLemon · 21-11-2018 12:48am

sc86 wrote: »

dra will be all over this

Looks like you were on the money:

https://dartsnews.com/hearn-confirms-dra-pdc-grand-slam-final/

TbL

Bob Harris · 21-11-2018 8:11am

Hearn says about Anderson: '“He certainly infringed on the rules – you’re not allowed to be in that exclusion zone behind the oche until the other player has taken his darts out of the board.”

The rulebook says: The non-throwing Player must not enter the exclusion zone behind or at the side
of the Oche until the throwing Player has completed their Throw.

Does completing your throw mean also taking them out of the board? The ref has already declared the score so the throw is in effect complete.

The definition of the throw in the rules is as follows:

Throw
5.2.1 A Player shall throw darts from a standing position, excepting only in those
circumstances when a physical disability or physical injury requires a Player to
adopt a non-standing position (for instance from a wheelchair or similar form of
support).
5.2.2 All darts must be deliberately thrown in an over arm fashion, one at a time, by and
from the Player’s hand.
5.2.3 A “Throw” shall consist of a maximum of three darts thrown consecutively (without
interruption for any throw by any other Player) by a Player unless a leg, set or
match is completed in less than three darts thrown by that Player.
5.2.4 If the throwing Player physically touches any dart which is in the dartboard during
a Throw, then that Throw shall be deemed to have been completed.
5.2.5 Any dart bouncing off or falling out of the dartboard prior to being retrieved by the
throwing Player after that Player’s Throw does not count and shall not be rethrown.

No mention of having to retrieve the darts before a throw is deemed 'complete'

It goes on to say:

In all televised events, the stage finals will be subject to the scrutiny of a Second
Referee. The powers of the Second Referee will be as wide ranging as those of
the Referee but will be confined to matters not concerned with the actual scoring
and adjudication of the Match. In particular, the Second Referee will supervise
the exclusion zone and general behaviour which is out of sight of the Referee.

I'd say Anderson was in this zone after almost every Price throw the other night and I'd say he is in all of his matches as is MvG, Smith etc

Never enforced and it would be unfair to pick on Anderson now when it's an accepted norm in the sport whatever the rules say which in themselves are unclear.

sc86 · 21-11-2018 10:46am

anderson moves in very quick and has the 1st dart thrown by the time alot of guys arnt even back behind him
most of the faster lads do it , its not to put anybody off

chris mason had a few good tweets about it , said anderson is well within his rights to stand in once 3 darts are thrown
only issue would be is if he moved in before 3rd dart thrown

id say both will get fines - if justin pipe got 3k for a cough the tv cameras couldnt pick up then this should be interesting

they have lost barney and taylor - they cant afford anderson to start thinkin about it also

Bob Harris · 21-11-2018 10:51am

sc86 wrote: »

anderson moves in very quick and has the 1st dart thrown by the time alot of guys arnt even back behind him
most of the faster lads do it , its not to put anybody off

chris mason had a few good tweets about it , said anderson is well within his rights to stand in once 3 darts are thrown
only issue would be is if he moved in before 3rd dart thrown

id say both will get fines - if justin pipe got 3k for a cough the tv cameras couldnt pick up then this should be interesting

they have lost barney and taylor - they can afford anderson to start thinkin about it also

They lost barney years ago the dour aul bollix:pac:

sc86 · 21-11-2018 10:52am

true but they didnt lose the revenue he brings

Grand slam of darts 2018

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