The Jumpers are Coming 2018/19

posturingpat · 11-11-2018 2:51pm

Apples not done with yet but will have to stop jumping right handed when she's in against better opposition.

STB. · 11-11-2018 4:54pm

Motivator wrote: »

Looked like a jockey who was out for a run on the track. Never heard the horses coming. Very strange as you’d always see jockeys run on the inside of the hurdles/fences during a race. Often I’ve seen Patrick Mullins jump a few hurdles but never as the race is happening! Whoever it was he was lucky he didn’t get a clatter. Headphones must have been in too as you’d expect him to hear horses coming behind him - especially as they had just jumped a flight.

Exactly what happened.

Nolan's jockey Evan Daly.

kiers47 · 12-11-2018 12:51pm

I thought Apples Jade was exceptional on Sunday. I think and i dont see any reason why they would be lying. But the struggle of her keeping coming into season at the end of last year is a fair excuse. Hopefully she comes back to her best this year. Would love if they sent her for the stayers.

Angliru · 12-11-2018 7:07pm

Apples Jade vs Faugheen vs Thistlecrack in the Stayers make it happen!

RivetingRoger · 13-11-2018 1:29pm

Some performance from Jezki Sunday
That horse just will not lie down
If Jezki was a footballer he would be James Milner!!!
touched 16/1 at one point!

Gavin "shels" · 13-11-2018 1:47pm

RivetingRoger wrote: »

Some performance from Jezki Sunday
That horse just will not lie down
If Jezki was a footballer he would be James Milner!!!
touched 16/1 at one point!

Be great to see him win again but I don't know... impressive on Sunday against a good field, just watched the replay there.

RivetingRoger · 13-11-2018 2:14pm

He wont be winning any grade 1 or 2 races anytime again but if they pick and choose he defo could win again.
He won twice last year, Gowran and Tipp I think wasn't it? Beat Tombstone along the way and possibly Identity Thief also ?
To say they are letting him keep going speaks volumes as its not like JP or JH are short of winners...

He is just a fabulous ol legend of a horse. Hugely admirable and brave.
Ironic really cos i hate Liverpool!!!

longshotvalue · 13-11-2018 5:03pm

Angliru wrote: »

Apples Jade vs Faugheen vs Thistlecrack in the Stayers make it happen!

Faugheen will hopefully go for the Champion. In my view he is capable of 1-2 big runs a year and if he rocks up there in form he wont be far away. Id liek to see him run well Sunday but not get bottomed out and appear in march a fresh horse.

Apples Jade should also be running in Champion, i'm not sure what can give her 7lbs.

madmoose · 13-11-2018 6:27pm

aidankkk wrote: »

Faugheen will hopefully go for the Champion. In my view he is capable of 1-2 big runs a year and if he rocks up there in form he wont be far away. Id liek to see him run well Sunday but not get bottomed out and appear in march a fresh horse.

Apples Jade should also be running in Champion, i'm not sure what can give her 7lbs.

Both at this stage in their careers aren’t 2 milers, both should be in the stayers.

sweeneed · 13-11-2018 6:29pm

madmoose wrote: »

Both at this stage in their careers aren’t 2 milers, both should be in the stayers.

AJ is 6!! and cant see faugheen near champ hurdle age 11 come march....

longshotvalue · 13-11-2018 7:47pm

madmoose wrote: »

Both at this stage in their careers aren’t 2 milers, both should be in the stayers.

I generally tend not to look at the obvious. Apples Jade is a 2m4f horse which has proven perfect for Champion Hurdles in the past and is only 6 and getting 7lbs. I honestly that on top form she would be very hard to get beat in a strong run CH. Laurina is only 6/1 and no where near the proven form YET. If she won the race the other day the way Apples' did she'd be even shorter now.

RivetingRoger · 13-11-2018 8:15pm

What way do you see Jezki's year mapping out Aidan?
Will he stay at home for the season?

kiers47 · 13-11-2018 8:43pm

aidankkk wrote: »

I generally tend not to look at the obvious. Apples Jade is a 2m4f horse which has proven perfect for Champion Hurdles in the past and is only 6 and getting 7lbs. I honestly that on top form she would be very hard to get beat in a strong run CH. Laurina is only 6/1 and no where near the proven form YET. If she won the race the other day the way Apples' did she'd be even shorter now.

I understand trainers change their mind on every occasion but Gordon did say in an ATR stable tour that the mares hurdle was the plan and they would consider the stayers.
Added to that there is no chance she runs if Samcro stays hurdling and gets there.

yaboya1 · 13-11-2018 9:40pm

Laurina will run in the mares hurdle again.
People should really know better by now than to listen to anything Willie Mullins says.

kiers47 · 13-11-2018 9:52pm

yaboya1 wrote: »

Laurina will run in the mares hurdle again.
People should really know better by now than to listen to anything Willie Mullins says.

Laurina has never run in the mares hurdle before so she will hardly run there again.

yaboya1 · 13-11-2018 9:56pm

kiers47 wrote: »

Laurina has never run in the mares hurdle before so she will hardly run there again.

Fair enough.
She'll stick to her own sex again, like she did last year.

kiers47 · 14-11-2018 3:38pm

Black Op out later at Exeter. Should take the beating if jumping around.
A nice chasing type youd imagine.

**Literally taken out less than 10mins after i posted this. haha

RivetingRoger · 14-11-2018 5:33pm

yaboya1 wrote: »

Laurina will run in the mares hurdle again.
People should really know better by now than to listen to anything Willie Mullins says.

ooohhh that's really not gone well for you son..........

longshotvalue · 14-11-2018 5:37pm

RivetingRoger wrote: »

What way do you see Jezki's year mapping out Aidan?
Will he stay at home for the season?

County of top weight maybe ?.. Carrying top weight in that race works. In reality i think he is still not that far behind top class, but id imagine they will be trying to pick up a few crumbs along the way.

In the County Artic Fire won it of 158 and Lami Serge was second :mad: of 152. Jezki could well be below 150 and id be all over that on the day (once he is a decent price)

RivetingRoger · 15-11-2018 3:12pm

Probably his (Jezki) last year at this level, be lovely to see him go out on a high at the Festival. The more you watch the race last weekend you realise what a good run it was, he was well ahead of 3rd, and he went off top price.
Oh to have AP back on him at race weights!!

BumperD · 15-11-2018 7:15pm

JH was hoping to stick him over a fence this season, subject to owner approving- saw on podcast or preview

Motivator · 15-11-2018 9:26pm

RivetingRoger wrote: »

Probably his (Jezki) last year at this level, be lovely to see him go out on a high at the Festival. The more you watch the race last weekend you realise what a good run it was, he was well ahead of 3rd, and he went off top price.
Oh to have AP back on him at race weights!!

McCoy and Jezki never really suited one another. Geraghty and Jezki were magic together in the good old days. McCoy won the Champion Hurdle on him at Punchestown but the horse was at his best under Geraghty.

kiers47 · 15-11-2018 9:30pm

In fairness to Barry he gets a lot of stick over the past year. But I think he has been back close to his best of late.

Slattsy · 15-11-2018 10:00pm

I wouldn't back a Geraghty ridden horse with free money.

And that's not an opinion based on myself losing money, I just think he's poison and often costs a horse lengths at an obstacle.

paddyisreal · 15-11-2018 10:33pm

Slattsy wrote: »

I wouldn't back a Geraghty ridden horse with free money.

And that's not an opinion based on myself losing money, I just think he's poison and often costs a horse lengths at an obstacle.

Thats some statement, one of the best ever jockeys over fences. Ye Must of burnt a few times ...

Pogue eile · 15-11-2018 11:25pm

Slattsy wrote: »

I wouldn't back a Geraghty ridden horse with free money.

And that's not an opinion based on myself losing money, I just think he's poison and often costs a horse lengths at an obstacle.

On the sauce again Slattsy??

akelly02 · 15-11-2018 11:48pm

He’s right lads he has been worse than useless the last few years.

Slattsy · 16-11-2018 12:13am

Pogue eile wrote: »

On the sauce again Slattsy??

Never touched a drop in me life!

kiers47 · 16-11-2018 12:24am

In fairness I'd disagree with that. But game of opinions.

In any case I think people put way to much weight in jockeys. Usually as they are looking for someone to blame for a bad bet or a horse not winning. Sometimes you just place a bad bet. People need to own that more and learn from it rather than blaming jockeys.

Pogue eile · 16-11-2018 12:33am

kiers47 wrote: »

In fairness I'd disagree with that. But game of opinions.

In any case I think people put way to much weight in jockeys. Usually as they are looking for someone to blame for a bad bet or a horse not winning. Sometimes you just place a bad bet. People need to own that more and learn from it rather than blaming jockeys.

Was just trying to think who the last high profile jockey in Irish racing was that didnt get abused was and I'm struggling to be honest. It's a combination of small fields, gold fish bowl syndrome, pocket talk and probably a certain element of begrudgery as well.

Earendil · 16-11-2018 5:50am

Pogue eile wrote: »

Was just trying to think who the last high profile jockey in Irish racing was that didnt get abused was and I'm struggling to be honest. It's a combination of small fields, gold fish bowl syndrome, pocket talk and probably a certain element of begrudgery as well.

Davy Russell doesn’t get much stick....over his jockeying anyway!
He’s a fantastic horseman.
Best irish jockey of the last few years, though based in the UK, is Noel Fehily. Ice in the veins that man.

RivetingRoger · 16-11-2018 10:29am

Did I read that right Bumper, are u saying they want Jezki to start going over fences? At 10???!!!

Jack Kennedy has been fairly bombproof from critics in his short career so far.............plenty time yet tho!

FWIW I would be less inclined not more inclined to back a horse if BG was on it

Fehily and Jacob would be jocks I would like

kiers47 · 16-11-2018 10:34am

Pogue eile wrote: »

Was just trying to think who the last high profile jockey in Irish racing was that didnt get abused was and I'm struggling to be honest. It's a combination of small fields, gold fish bowl syndrome, pocket talk and probably a certain element of begrudgery as well.

Its a standard that the jockeys who are on the best horses are going to get the most criticism as they are invariably on the favorites so in effect more people have bet them. Then when x jockey surprises on a horse at a big price or the supposed second string they are the new great thing.
I find people who bet on racing compared to other sports with 1X2 outcomes have a very low tolerance of failure from when they create an opinion on something. When really you should be open minded to those things. Obviously not everyone, just a generalization i find. People form opinions and will try to find every reason under the sun as to why it didnt work out.
Sometimes well most times in racing if you are betting you are going to be wrong. Just own it and move on. Things can be learned but stop making excuses.

Anyway just a little rant. Sorry to drag off topic

The Mig · 16-11-2018 10:41am

Slattsy wrote: »

I wouldn't back a Geraghty ridden horse with free money.

And that's not an opinion based on myself losing money, I just think he's poison and often costs a horse lengths at an obstacle.

Glenloe

:(:(:(:(

Francie Barrett · 16-11-2018 11:52am

Don't know how you can be having a go at Geraghty. While I think his level has dipped slightly in the last two seasons, he is still a top jockey.

RivetingRoger · 16-11-2018 12:50pm

✅Samcro
✅Sharjah
✅Faugheen
✅Tombstone
✅Supasundae
✅Wickow Brave

All dec for Morgiana
Still wont believe it till i see it
No way Samcro v faugheen v Supa happens in November
No way

Gavin "shels" · 16-11-2018 2:30pm

Some lineup if it does happen!!

Does Tiger Roll romp today!?

Plasandrunt · 16-11-2018 2:48pm

Tiger Roll out for the stroll today. Be surprised if he wins

zpehtsfd · 16-11-2018 3:14pm

RivetingRoger wrote: »

✅Samcro
✅Sharjah
✅Faugheen
✅Tombstone
✅Supasundae
✅Wickow Brave

All dec for Morgiana
Still wont believe it till i see it
No way Samcro v faugheen v Supa happens in November
No way

Can't see them running Samcro given the dry weather forecast. Good chance Faugheen will run and Supasundae will relish the conditions but would be worried about race fitness for both of those. Should be entertaining.

Gavin "shels" · 16-11-2018 5:55pm

Plasandrunt wrote: »

Tiger Roll out for the stroll today. Be surprised if he wins

Yup... Elliot very positive afterwards.

Pogue eile · 16-11-2018 9:49pm

Earendil wrote: »

Davy Russell doesn’t get much stick....over his jockeying anyway!
He’s a fantastic horseman.
Best irish jockey of the last few years, though based in the UK, is Noel Fehily. Ice in the veins that man.

Got plenty of stick when he was the retained jockey for Gigginstown

Fanny Wank · 17-11-2018 10:05pm

Big early season showdown in the bumper at Punchestown tomorrow

BumperD · 18-11-2018 12:12am

Sure is.

Gavin "shels" · 18-11-2018 2:39am

Does Samcro romp? Will Faugheen be back? Can Wicklow Brave go back to previous great runs?? Going to be a belter of a eace.

BumperD · 18-11-2018 4:39am

Supasundae is a price

Slattsy · 18-11-2018 9:50am

There's no way Samcro runs.

Glorious morning in Dublin, I'm wearing shorts and flip flops.

Francie Barrett · 18-11-2018 11:14am

Supasundae non runner.

Slattsy · 18-11-2018 11:24am

All the cash for Mt Leinster in the bumper.

Francie Barrett · 18-11-2018 11:33am

Boil sports gone 11/10 on Samcro. Have backed it for today with a win giving me a free bet for the Champion Hurdle at 9/2.

kiers47 · 18-11-2018 11:45am

11/10 Max bet a tenner. Why do they even bother.

The Jumpers are Coming 2018/19

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