Can the book be beaten... here for a year.

slimshady007 · 30-04-2018 8:02pm

del roy wrote: »

Windsor 7.40 Quothquan 2pts e/w 14/1
The racingpost says Quothquan may need further however he has run well at Kempton at distances between
2m btn 1L ¼ 5th of 13
1m4f btn 1L ¼ 3rd of 6
1m3 btn 3L 2nd of 10
1m btn hd 2nd of 14
1m btn 1L ½ 3rd of 13
1m btn 13L 10TH OF 11
Obviously I would prefer another 2f but the slow ground at Windsor will ensure none of the others horses will be sprinting away from Quothquan.
Connection have mostly kept him to right handed tracks. He has only raced twice at Windsor resulting in a win and a third both over a mile. This really is a race were anything can win as there are a lot of first time out horses, horses who will not go in the ground and doubtful stayers.
Looking at big fields at Windsor they seem to finish in slow motion maybe because they go for home very early (in my view). There is more rain forecast to fall tomorrow which should suit Quothquan.

Southwell 8.20 Max liberman 8/1 1pt e/w

Hacked up in a jumpers bumper here earlier on in the year and will feel like he is running lose with 9st 5LB plus jock taking 7LB off.
5th to Venice beach when trained by Aiden O' Brien the 1st 2nd and 3rd in that race are all rated 90 plus. Max runs off 66 tomorrow excluding the claim.

8/1 looks too big to me and to all others. 4/1 now, silly price now 3/1 even as short as 5/2 with some. ffs 7/4

Was counting my winnings on Quothquan, was sure he'd outstay them a furlong out. Great analysis on them going for home too far out. Place money at least.

del roy · 30-04-2018 8:06pm

slimshady007 wrote: »

Was counting my winnings on Quothquan, was sure he'd outstay them a furlong out. Great analysis on them going for home too far out. Place money at least.

Me too slim, 9 times out of 10 the horse on the outside usually on better ground hangs on but not today.

Thats two very close finishes with big priced horses we have lost out on.

del roy · 30-04-2018 8:30pm

so close to having a 30pt profit for the day.
3pts profit for the day.

15 bets
2 winners
+59.2pts

del roy · 30-04-2018 10:08pm

Brighton 5.25 it's how we roll 1pt e/w 12/1
I gave this horse twice last year when it was rated in the mid 60s. down to 55 with the claimer taking 3LB off surely gives it a chance in this race. Looking at his form he has some decent races at Windsor which like Brighton has a long straight.
IT'S HOW WE ROLL is only a 4yr old and last year when only a 3yr old was not beaten far in better races than this.

Jerry

del roy · 01-05-2018 10:31am

5th May 2000 guineas
RAID 50/1 2pts e/w

I would not normally have 2pts e/w on many horses over 25/1 however the Guineas this year in my view is wide open and Raid is no 50/1 shot.
Having only the second start of his life when fourth in the Greenham and entitled to have learned plenty there, this is a tough step up from the Greenham.
The son of Havana Gold has only been seen on a racecourse once before winning as he liked at Doncaster in November, (second, sixth and eighth have won on the AW over the winter. he’s proven on soft ground if the heavens open this week however clerk of the course is not expecting much rain if any to fall on the course this week. Although I am not sure my self they will escape the rain.
Trainer has been on record saying Raid has progressed very well over the winter.

Last 10 winners of the Greenham
2008 Paco Boy Richard Hughes Richard Hannon Sr. 1:27.14
2009 Vocalised Kevin Manning Jim Bolger 1:27.81
2010 Dick Turpin Ryan Moore Richard Hannon Sr. 1:22.72
2011 Frankel Tom Queally Henry Cecil 1:24.60
2012 Caspar Netscher Shane Kelly Alan McCabe 1:32.32
2013 Olympic Glory Richard Hughes Richard Hannon Sr. 1:26.14
2014 Kingman James Doyle John Gosden 1:26.95
2015 Muhaarar Frankie Dettori Charles Hills 1:20.80*
2016 Tasleet Paul Hanagan William Haggas 1:25.38
2017 Barney Roy James Doyle Richard Hannon Jr. 1:23.08
2018 James Garfield Frankie Dettori George Scott 1:26.98

2018 was not the slowest on record and with such a tight finish involving four horses the form of the race may not point to a guineas winner. However if you look at the race RAID was off the bridal and finished really well to finish 4th. He may have got a bit tired towards the end.
I put the times up to point out the race was actually not run that fast and I think a faster pace plus the extra furlong should suit RAID much better than the Greenham’s 7f race. I think the dip will suit this horse very much. The reason I say he got tired at the end of the Greenham race and not as some may point out he didn’t stay is, his dosage.
Raid has a dosage index of 0.41. He should get this mile standing on his head. Incidentally RAIDs sire Havana Gold has raced 4 times at Newmarket, finishing 1st 1st 2nd 2nd . He obviously liked the dip however I know it is not wise to use this stat on offspring, I just thought I would add it.

The Trainer David Simcock does not enter horses in big races without some evidence to back it up. Here is what he has to say about RAID.
Won a 6f maiden on the soft at Doncaster first time, although he’s a little bit quirky and hadn’t shown us much at home. He hadn’t shown us much at home before the Greenham on Saturday either, but the step up to 7f proved ideal and we were absolutely delighted with his run in fourth, beaten a length and a half, in a first-time hood. He raced really well between the two pole and the half-furlong, then probably just got a little tired, and if he he’d sustained his run he’d probably have finished second. I’ll speak to Sheikh Fahad and [his racing manager] David Redvers to decide where we go next, but we know he likes a bit of juice and that will no doubt influence the decision. I think in the right conditions we’d be looking to go to a Guineas somewhere.

This is an ante post bet if the horse does not run we lose our money.

sdoc13 · 01-05-2018 10:46am

del roy wrote:

This is an ante post bet if the does not run we lose our money.

365 are 50/1 with nrnb

kiers47 · 01-05-2018 11:47am

sdoc13 wrote: »

365 are 50/1 with nrnb

To add to that.
Id be surprised if there wasn't 50/1 available on the day or the day before after final decs considering the profile and the ones ahead of him in the betting.

del roy · 01-05-2018 12:04pm

Friday 1st June 2018
The Oaks…..Wild Illusion 16/1 2pts e/w

I think this is a seriously good filly. Her 3yr old form reads 131. I am really interested in colts and filly’s who win over the mile distance at the young edge of two.
Her 2yr old form reads 131. She started her career at Yarmouth of all places where she made all and duly won. Comments of race were
Made all, ridden over 2f out, driven over 1f out, going best after and stayed on well, comfortably (op 5/2). The form of the race has not worked out great with only the second horse winning so far.

On to Chantilly for the Prix d'Aumale (Group 3) (2yo Fillies) (Turf) 5 runners. Wild illusion went off 7/2. They decided to give her some cover in the small field of five runners. Two things may have happened that day
1. She hated being held up.
2. She just did not run her race that day for whatever reason.
She was only beaten 1L 3/4L.
They must have went home and realised they did the wrong thing by holding her up. Three weeks later they supplemented her for the Total Prix Marcel Boussac - Criterium des Pouliches (Group 1) (2yo Fillies) (Turf).
Here’s what the post say
However, Appleby has seen an improvement in her form at home and after a meeting with Sheikh Mohammed the call was made to roll the dice and supplement the filly.
Under a positive James Doyle ride, that gamble paid off spectacularly, as the daughter of Dubawi led early in the home straight before staying on stoutly for a 25-1 success over the previously unbeaten Polydream.
“She came forward a lot for her last run and we were delighted with her at home," said Appleby. "I spoke to his highness in depth about her and he said, 'Go for it, if you're happy with the horse'."

Fast forward to the races James Doyle takes the lead as soon as the stalls open, makes all and wins by 1L and ¾ beating France’s big hope, the unbeaten Polydream.

Make no mistake to do what she did at 2yrs old to some very well bred horses over a mile when her pedigree is packed with stamina gives her a big shout in this year’s oaks. Also her win was a second faster than the Oaks fav Happily who is 6/1. Wild Illusion has a dosage index of 0.50 which is excellent.

I am not mad on her for the 1000 Guineas as her stamina at 2yrs of age helped her beat the well bred milers but it will be much tougher as a 3yr old
They say the guineas is the best trial for the Derby and Oaks so let’s see if she tries to make all the running and more importantly will she be passed.

This is an ante post bet if the horse does not run we lose our money.

Jerry

del roy · 01-05-2018 1:22pm

Hi

just tiding up the thread.

Brighton 5.25 it's how we roll 1pt e/w 12/1
I gave this horse twice last year when it was rated in the mid 60s. down to 55 with the claimer taking 3LB off surely gives it a chance in this race. Looking at his form he has some decent races at Windsor which like Brighton has a long straight.
IT'S HOW WE ROLL is only a 4yr old and last year when only a 3yr old was not beaten far in better races than this.

7.45 Haines 2pts e/w 7/1
Haines raced 33 times, lifetime flat form 077/5033311/1125504/121452684/1695-237
looks ordinary nothing to see here however his lifetime form at Kempton reads 211511
Clearly loves it around here, an eye catching run at Wolverhamton in a really good 2m race in Feb 2018 with tonights jock up gives him an excellent chance here.

Sorry for all the bets landing on a quiet Tuesday morning however I am away for awhile and the next bet will probably be Saturday afternoon.

Jerry

Future antepost bets

5th May 2000 guineas
RAID 50/1 2pts e/w

Friday 1st June 2018
The Oaks…..Wild Illusion 16/1 2pts e/w

del roy · 02-05-2018 8:24am

5.25 it's how we roll 1pt e/w 12/1 8th
7.45 Haines 2pts e/w 7/1 3rd returns 5.5pts

loss of 0.5pt for the day

17 bets
2 winners
+58.2pts

kiers47 · 03-05-2018 7:46am

kiers47 wrote: »

To add to that.
Id be surprised if there wasn't 50/1 available on the day or the day before after final decs considering the profile and the ones ahead of him in the betting.

This prediction is unlikely to pull through after the Qatar racing manager gave him a good mention in an interview to the RP. Still 50s available in a few spots.
Likely to disappear today I'd say.

03-05-2018 11:37am

kiers47 wrote: »

This prediction is unlikely to pull through after the Qatar racing manager gave him a good mention in an interview to the RP. Still 50s available in a few spots.
Likely to disappear today I'd say.

Shortened to 33 on PP

ziggy · 03-05-2018 12:23pm

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del roy · 03-05-2018 12:33pm

ziggy wrote: »

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It is situated on Whitehawk Hill, on the edge of the South Downs about four hundred feet above sea level and a mile from the coast. The track takes the form of a horseshoe one and a half miles in length. This makes it one of the few British courses not to form a complete circuit, like Epsom with which Brighton is sometimes compared. The finishing straight is about four furlongs in length, with a steep descent followed by a slightly less steep climb to the winning post. It is a left-handed course, used for flat racing only. The longest race run today is 1 1/2 miles. However, the course used to extend a further half mile across the golf course towards Roedean. This made four mile races possible, starting at the winning post and going the reverse way round the track, then looping at the two mile start and returning the conventional way.[1] Hurdle races were also formerly held at Brighton, with one being situated on the steep downhill.[

RAID ALL BLUE TODAY on oddschecker.
WILL PROBABLY END UP 20s OR 25s

del roy · 03-05-2018 12:41pm

kiers47 wrote: »

This prediction is unlikely to pull through after the Qatar racing manager gave him a good mention in an interview to the RP. Still 50s available in a few spots.
Likely to disappear today I'd say.

Race sponsor Sheikh Fahad is set to have two runners in a bid to land the Qipco 2,000 Guineas for the first time – and it was the outsider of his duo, rather than the shorter-priced Roaring Lion, whose praises were being sung by the owner’s racing manager David Redvers on Wednesday.
Speaking at a launch lunch for the two-day Guineas festival at the Rowley Mile, Redvers asked fellow panellist, bet365's Pat Cooney, for an each-way bet on Greenham Stakes fourth Raid.
After being quoted 50-1 for the David Simcock-trained runner, Redvers said: "I'll have £100 each-way as this is the dark horse of the race for me and he worked excellently this morning.
"He was last off the bridle in the Greenham and then blew up in the last 50 yards. David has real confidence in him and I could absolutely see him finishing in the frame."

BIG talk up indeed. 25/1 with Powers and Betfair.

Wonder if he runs really well, will he be supplemented for the Derby as Jerry could not believe he was not entered with a dosage of 0.41.

del roy · 03-05-2018 6:34pm

1.50 1m1f (Row) Spring Lodge Stakes (Handicap) (Formerly The Suffolk Stakes) (Class 2) (3yo+)

Breden 2pts e/w 16/1

Firstly the fav has a terrible record in this race, 0/12. The fav Sharja Bridge has not run for for 232 days plus the bad record the favs have in the race I think we will take him on.

Some of the fancied horses are having their first run in this, Tricorn has not run for 296 days and Brorocco has not run for 217 days and has never won first time out.

Bryden has had a prep run at Lingfield last week where he flew home after being hampered beaten a head and a head. He has raced 16 times and been in the first 3 places, 8 times. However if you look closer at his form, he has raced 3 times at Newmarket resulting in two wins and a close 4th where again he did not get the clearest of rides.

Obviously the horse needs to be held up and covered up so we will need a bit of luck in running but I do think we have the right jock on board, Ms Hayley Turner. There will be very little lead in the saddle if any, she managed to do 8st somewhere over the last 12 months and I think she is the perfect jock for this horse.

Ok the horse is 8yrs old and has had some problems but its record at Newmarket and the price makes this a bet for me.

Jerry

Jayd0g · 03-05-2018 8:56pm

del roy wrote: »

1.50 1m1f (Row) Spring Lodge Stakes (Handicap) (Formerly The Suffolk Stakes) (Class 2) (3yo+)

Bryden 2pts e/w 16/1

Firstly the fav has a terrible record in this race, 0/12. The fav Sharja Bridge has not run for for 232 days plus the bad record the favs have in the race I think we will take him on.

Some of the fancied horses are having their first run in this, Tricorn has not run for 296 days and Brorocco has not run for 217 days and has never won first time out.

Bryden has had a prep run at Lingfield last week where he flew home after being hampered beaten a head and a head. He has raced 16 times and been in the first 3 places, 8 times. However if you look closer at his form, he has raced 3 times at Newmarket resulting in two wins and a close 4th where again he did not get the clearest of rides.

Obviously the horse needs to be held up and covered up so we will need a bit of luck in running but I do think we have the right jock on board, Ms Hayley Turner. There will be very little lead in the saddle if any, she managed to do 8st somewhere over the last 12 months and I think she is the perfect jock for this horse.

Ok the horse is 8yrs old and has had some problems but its record at Newmarket and the price makes this a bet for me.

Jerry

Think Horse is listed as Breden on powers. Still on SP.

ballyhagan · 03-05-2018 10:41pm

Yeh. It took me about 20 minutes to find it.

ballyhagan · 03-05-2018 10:42pm

It’s listed at 16’s on 365.

04-05-2018 10:15am

I can't find this race at all on PP, what am I missing?

Jayd0g · 04-05-2018 10:17am

Sergio Georgini wrote: »

I can't find this race at all on PP, what am I missing?

1.50 newmarket on Saturday. 20/1 on PP.

del roy · 04-05-2018 4:55pm

2.40 masham star 2pts e/w 12/1 OR 91

Mark Johnson has not had a runner in this race for 5 years. He runs two in this race tomorrow. The last 5 running's of this race has produced two 4yr old winners and a 4yr old was second in each of the other races. The last five running's of this race the first three home were drawn

14, 6, 7
5, 4, 15
9, 12, 10
5, 7, 1
7, 6, 4

The stats show 10 of the last 15 horses placed were drawn below stall 10. Its a hard course to get cover in a race and Gossiping who won it last year from stall 14 could of stopped for a pint and a smoke such was the burst of speed he showed to win.

I think Masham Star will just fall in and try travel 2 or 3 lenghts of the leaders then pounce late on or he could front run with such a great draw. He has run two races at Goodwood already, they were also two big fields 19 runner and 17 runner races. He finished 5th and 6th in both races. The winners of Mashams races were rated 101 and 103. Johnson has the top rated Loves Dream 100 keeping the weights down for our horse (I hope) and he has to give our horse 9LB. Also when Masham Star was a beaten 6th (3+1/4l) the first six home that day were drawn

1st..drawn 3
2nd..drawn 6
3rd..drawn 2
4th..drawn 7
5th..drawn 10
6th..drawn 18 Masham star
7th..drawn 4

18 ran.

12/1 A VERY FAIR PRICE.

Saturday bets

1.50 Breden 2pt e/w 16/1
2.40 Masham star 2pts e/w 12/1
3.35 Raid 2pts e/w 50/1

Lets hope we get some kind of return tomorrow.

Jerry

del roy · 05-05-2018 9:29am

1.50 Breden 2pt e/w 16/1 into 12/1 with powers
2.40 Masham star 2pts e/w 12/1 into 7/1
3.35 Raid 2pts e/w 50/1

a few quid for the first two bets.

del roy · 05-05-2018 10:04am

Jayd0g wrote: »

1.50 newmarket on Saturday. 20/1 on PP.

12/1 now

del roy · 05-05-2018 2:03pm

1.50 Breden 2pt e/w 16/1 into 12/1 with powers 5th 20/1

Can't get nearer without collecting, don't like slagging jockey's but Hayley gave that horse an awful lot to do, thought at one stage she would grab 3rd or 4th.

Not to be.

I hope the trainer two entries curse is not about to strike again with Love Dreams.

del roy · 05-05-2018 3:49pm

20 bets
2 winners
+46.2pts

bad day at blackrock.

del roy · 05-05-2018 7:10pm

5.20 Grecian Spirit 2pts e/w 14/1

I like races were the fav wins the race and the second fav is 2nd, when that happens they were mostly true run races. In Grecian's case he was 3rd in races with that senario. He then ran 2nd to a well backed 4/7 shot, infact all three races that Grecian ran in were won by odds on favs.
The step back upto 1m2f looks like it should suit on breeding. The trainer had a very quite year in 2017 with only 34 winners all season, he is however faring much better this season with 10 winners on the board already from 53 runners, he has also had 15 2nd places and 7 3rd places.Thats 32 placed horses from 53 runners albeit lower class races.

Luke morris doing 8st 4, plus the fact Luke won 2 of the 6 richest races this trainer ever won.

14/1 looks fair enough.

Jerry.

del roy · 06-05-2018 11:10am

3.50 minella scamp 4/1 3pts win

info stuff

5.20 Grecian Spirit 2pts e/w 14/1

razorhead · 06-05-2018 12:09pm

del roy wrote: »

1.50 Breden 2pt e/w 16/1 into 12/1 with powers 5th 20/1

Can't get nearer without collecting, don't like slagging jockey's but Hayley gave that horse an awful lot to do, thought at one stage she would grab 3rd or 4th.

Not to be.

I hope the trainer two entries curse is not about to strike again with Love Dreams.

Hi Del

Are you sure PP paid five places?

Thanks

del roy · 06-05-2018 12:14pm

razorhead wrote: »

Hi Del

Are you sure PP paid five places?

Thanks

No Razor they didn't.

razorhead · 06-05-2018 2:51pm

del roy wrote: »

No Razor they didn't.

You had me a wee bit excited earlier, thanks

the whole year inn · 06-05-2018 3:59pm

del roy wrote: »

3.50 minella scamp 4/1 3pts win

info stuff

5.20 Grecian Spirit 2pts e/w 14/1

Booom nice winner

del roy · 06-05-2018 4:09pm

the whole year inn wrote: »

Booom nice winner

Yes some losses back from yesterday

del roy · 06-05-2018 5:30pm

22 bets
3 winners
+54.2pts

del roy · 06-05-2018 6:58pm

5.35 Aussie Valentine 2pts e/w 12/1
AV has humped some weights around Naas in his five years of racing. He finished 3rd in the Lincoln here at Naas. Two years ago he tried to give Marshall Jennings 10LB and was beaten 2 and 1/4 lenghts. Tomorrow Marshall Jennings has to give AV 13LB. thats just the different direction both horses went up and down the handicap. He is also hugely better off at the weights with Katiymann who beat him in Leopardstown when AA was trying to give him 10LB.

Ok he is only 2 wins from 26 races however he was placed in no fewer than 14 of them races. He seems to run well at Naas, he is a strong traveller and hopefully the better ground brings out a small bit of improvement for his recent new trainer Mr McGUINNESS who is a dab hand with handicappers mostly.

On to the Oaks.

Friday 1st June 2018
The Oaks…..Wild Illusion 16/1 2pts e/w

I think this is a seriously good filly. Her 3yr old form reads 131. I am really interested in colts and filly’s who win over the mile distance at the young edge of two.
Her 2yr old form reads 131. She started her career at Yarmouth of all places where she made all and duly won. Comments of race were
Made all, ridden over 2f out, driven over 1f out, going best after and stayed on well, comfortably (op 5/2). The form of the race has not worked out great with only the second horse winning so far.

On to Chantilly for the Prix d'Aumale (Group 3) (2yo Fillies) (Turf) 5 runners. Wild illusion went off 7/2. They decided to give her some cover in the small field of five runners. Two things may have happened that day
1. She hated being held up.
2. She just did not run her race that day for whatever reason.
She was only beaten 1L 3/4L.
They must have went home and realised they did the wrong thing by holding her up. Three weeks later they supplemented her for the Total Prix Marcel Boussac - Criterium des Pouliches (Group 1) (2yo Fillies) (Turf).
Here’s what the post say
However, Appleby has seen an improvement in her form at home and after a meeting with Sheikh Mohammed the call was made to roll the dice and supplement the filly.
Under a positive James Doyle ride, that gamble paid off spectacularly, as the daughter of Dubawi led early in the home straight before staying on stoutly for a 25-1 success over the previously unbeaten Polydream.
“She came forward a lot for her last run and we were delighted with her at home," said Appleby. "I spoke to his highness in depth about her and he said, 'Go for it, if you're happy with the horse'."

Fast forward to the races James Doyle takes the lead as soon as the stalls open, makes all and wins by 1L and ¾ beating France’s big hope, the unbeaten Polydream.

Make no mistake to do what she did at 2yrs old to some very well bred horses over a mile when her pedigree is packed with stamina gives her a big shout in this year’s oaks. Also her win was a second faster than the Oaks fav Happily who is 6/1. Wild Illusion has a dosage index of 0.50 which is excellent.

I am not mad on her for the 1000 Guineas as her stamina at 2yrs of age helped her beat the well bred milers but it will be much tougher as a 3yr old
They say the guineas is the best trial for the Derby and Oaks so let’s see if she tries to make all the running and more importantly will she be passed.

This is an ante post bet if the horse does not run we lose our money.

Jerry

I am not too worried over the result today as I did say her stamina let her handle the milers last year but it would be much tougher against the 3yr olds. I see Powers have pushed her out to 16s while bet365 and w.hills have her at 10s. I don't know how big a field it will be but I hope she gets to make the running.

Jerry.

kiers47 · 06-05-2018 7:17pm

I assume you mean Aussie Valentine?

Jayd0g · 06-05-2018 7:21pm

kiers47 wrote: »

I assume you mean Aussie Valentine?

Its the right race,price and trainer so I assumed so.

I'm enjoying the puzzle part of these tips!

del roy · 06-05-2018 7:33pm

kiers47 wrote: »

I assume you mean Aussie Valentine?

YES. COPY AND PASTED FROM Jerry.

Thanks lads.

Jayd0g · 06-05-2018 7:34pm

del roy wrote: »

YES. COPY AND PASTED FROM Jerry.

Thanks lads.

Makes it fun! Also means bots can't easily scrape the info.

del roy · 06-05-2018 7:37pm

Jayd0g wrote: »

Its the right race,price and trainer so I assumed so.

I'm enjoying the puzzle part of these tips!

Jay
this way Jerry has most of the field covered.

Anyway someone awhile back was wondering how Jerrys "info only" tips were doing. It won't take long to find out who to follow.

Jayd0g · 06-05-2018 7:47pm

del roy wrote: »

Jay
this way Jerry has most of the field covered.

Anyway someone awhile back was wondering how Jerrys "info only" tips were doing. It won't take long to find out who to follow.

Ah,so it's intentional?

Makes sense!

del roy · 06-05-2018 8:06pm

Jayd0g wrote: »

Ah,so it's intentional?

Makes sense!

Yes Jay, I asked Jerry to seperate his selections from info as someone also said then Jerry is not beating the book by himself but with info from others but thats just getting too picky as who gives a fook what help he has once it does what it says on the tin.

Btw, this will get very interesting if Jerry has a purple patch this summer as we have 13.5k views in just under 3 weeks. Not for a minute saying every viewer is backing them but if he has a week or two like when he first started it will be interesting to see how many start backing them.

del roy · 06-05-2018 8:26pm

4.05 Vaniteux 2pts win 5/1

5.35 Aussie Valentine 2pts e/w 12/1
AV has humped some weights around Naas in his five years of racing. He finished 3rd in the Lincoln here at Naas. Two years ago he tried to give Marshall Jennings 10LB and was beaten 2 and 1/4 lenghts. Tomorrow Marshall Jennings has to give AV 13LB. thats just the different direction both horses went up and down the handicap. He is also hugely better off at the weights with Katiymann who beat him in Leopardstown when AA was trying to give him 10LB.

Ok he is only 2 wins from 26 races however he was placed in no fewer than 14 of them races. He seems to run well at Naas, he is a strong traveller and hopefully the better ground brings out a small bit of improvement for his recent new trainer Mr McGUINNESS who is a dab hand with handicappers mostly.

Jayd0g · 06-05-2018 8:47pm

del roy wrote: »

Yes Jay, I asked Jerry to seperate his selections from info as someone also said then Jerry is not beating the book by himself but with info from others but thats just getting too picky as who gives a fook what help he has once it does what it says on the tin.

Btw, this will get very interesting if Jerry has a purple patch this summer as we have 13.5k views in just under 3 weeks. Not for a minute saying every viewer is backing them but if he has a week or two like when he first started it will be interesting to see how many start backing them.

Ah I see, that makes sense. Cheers for explaining!

del roy · 07-05-2018 11:03am

Kempton 5.15 cascaye 2pts e/w 11/1

info stuff.

4.05 Vaniteux 2pts win 5/1

5.35 Aussie Valentine 2pts e/w 12/1

the whole year inn · 07-05-2018 11:15am

del roy wrote: »

Kempton 5.15 cascaye 2pts e/w 11/1

info stuff.

4.05 Vaniteux 2pts win 5/1

5.35 Aussie Valentine 2pts e/w 12/1

Which is the info there looks like the 5.15 bet to me.
Just want to clear it up.

del roy · 07-05-2018 11:23am

the whole year inn wrote: »

Which is the info there looks like the 5.15 bet to me.
Just want to clear it up.

Yes 5.15 bet is the info.

the whole year inn · 07-05-2018 3:31pm

del roy wrote: »

4.05 Vaniteux 2pts win 5/1

5.35 Aussie Valentine 2pts e/w 12/1
AV has humped some weights around Naas in his five years of racing. He finished 3rd in the Lincoln here at Naas. Two years ago he tried to give Marshall Jennings 10LB and was beaten 2 and 1/4 lenghts. Tomorrow Marshall Jennings has to give AV 13LB. thats just the different direction both horses went up and down the handicap. He is also hugely better off at the weights with Katiymann who beat him in Leopardstown when AA was trying to give him 10LB.

Ok he is only 2 wins from 26 races however he was placed in no fewer than 14 of them races. He seems to run well at Naas, he is a strong traveller and hopefully the better ground brings out a small bit of improvement for his recent new trainer Mr McGUINNESS who is a dab hand with handicappers mostly.

4.05 A NR

robbiezero · 07-05-2018 3:40pm

the whole year inn wrote: »

4.05 A NR

4.40?

the whole year inn · 07-05-2018 3:42pm

robbiezero wrote: »

4.40?

Yep must be.