Munster Team Talk Thread VI - Stander Up and Fight

Eod100 · 19-02-2019 6:14pm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

It is the same every season, some random foreign player....Munster NEED him...usual out rage, poor Munster, IRFU ganging up on them, XYZ

Moore was one of the most recent....what exactly would have happened Scannell if Moore was allowed to join?

Haven't seen any of that on this forum to be fair.

aloooof · 19-02-2019 6:16pm

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Shefwedfan wrote: »

It is the same every season, some random foreign player....Munster NEED him...usual out rage, poor Munster, IRFU ganging up on them, XYZ

I presume you can provide plenty more examples since it seems to be such a common occurrence?

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Moore was one of the most recent....what exactly would have happened Scannell if Moore was allowed to join?

And I'm sure I've said it before, but Nucifora is on record as saying he didn't block Munsters approach for Moore; Moore himself turned down Munster's offer.

EDIT: Yeeeeep, found it. Would still be interested in answer to my question below as well fwiw.

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Anyone remember Stephen Moore and the up roar after Munster wasn't allowed sign him

aloooof wrote: »

And fwiw, Nucifora is on record as saying he didn't block the Stephen Moore deal, Moore just didn't accept Munster's offer.

What positions do you think it acceptable for Munster to sign an overseas player?

Tomtom364 · 19-02-2019 6:23pm

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phog wrote: »

Is Alby the first player to arrive at a club as injury cover and then to get a full contract?

No, Taute did exactly this.#

Arrive as injury cover in October until End of December, Extended to end of season. Get a 2 year Contract.... get a crippling knee injury and not be the same again

yerrahbah · 19-02-2019 6:32pm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

It is the same every season, some random foreign player....Munster NEED him...usual out rage, poor Munster, IRFU ganging up on them, XYZ

Moore was one of the most recent....what exactly would have happened Scannell if Moore was allowed to join?

An all black is hardly some random foreign player

Munster do not NEED him, but no denying he would be useful

Who is outraged and by what?

Who said poor Munster and that the IRFU are ganging up on them?

I'd imagine Scannell would have been just fine if Moore had joined.
Might have even picked up a thing or two

Ideally i'd like to keep Alby, Be handy to have around the RWC

Can't see it happening for the reasons Thomond said.

All this came from JvG being asked about Alby's contract and JvG saying he would like to keep him.

Well hes not exactly going to say that he doesnt want to keep him

Kirk Van Houten · 19-02-2019 7:03pm

No NIEs as back up players, since when has this been a directive or even something dreamt up those who keep reading Mole articles about squads.

Don't remember this being a "thing" when Tomane signed for Leinster or Liduk in Ulster or Botha in Munster. Does it only apply to scrum halfs????????

aloooof · 19-02-2019 7:16pm

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Kirk Van Houten wrote: »

No NIEs as back up players, since when has this been a directive or even something dreamt up those who keep reading Mole articles about squads.

I actually agree with some of your points, but the constant Mole references are pretty condescending at this stage; just because someone disagrees with you doesn't automatically mean they've lifted their opinions from somewhere else.

Kirk Van Houten wrote: »

Did the Mole not cover it in his article?

Kirk Van Houten wrote: »

I'll awaited a detailed review in last season's numbers when Mole covers it in another article.

Kirk Van Houten wrote: »

Seems a few posters are after reading the Moles article on Munsters squad and are now experts on squad depth and how many out halfs each province should have. If only they looked back one season for comparison, but then again I don't think the Mole covered that in his article.

Kirk Van Houten wrote: »

The level of whataboutery and goal shifting by the MOLFs in this thread is just stunning.

I wonder what the next Mole article will be about.

Kirk Van Houten wrote: »

Good thing Munster and the IRFU are looking at this and not some lads who have read an article from the Mole and know everything.

Kirk Van Houten wrote: »

The whole Savea thing may help him make his mind up. But I'm sure all the Mole blog readers know better. ��

Kirk Van Houten · 19-02-2019 7:33pm

aloooof wrote: »

Kirk Van Houten wrote: »

No NIEs as back up players, since when has this been a directive or even something dreamt up those who keep reading Mole articles about squads.

I actually agree with some of your points, but the constant Mole references are pretty condescending at this stage; just because someone disagrees with you doesn't automatically mean they've lifted their opinions from somewhere else.

Kirk Van Houten wrote: »

Did the Mole not cover it in his article?

Kirk Van Houten wrote: »

I'll awaited a detailed review in last season's numbers when Mole covers it in another article.

Kirk Van Houten wrote: »

Seems a few posters are after reading the Moles article on Munsters squad and are now experts on squad depth and how many out halfs each province should have. If only they looked back one season for comparison, but then again I don't think the Mole covered that in his article.

Kirk Van Houten wrote: »

The level of whataboutery and goal shifting by the MOLFs in this thread is just stunning.

I wonder what the next Mole article will be about.

Kirk Van Houten wrote: »

Good thing Munster and the IRFU are looking at this and not some lads who have read an article from the Mole and know everything.

Kirk Van Houten wrote: »

The whole Savea thing may help him make his mind up. But I'm sure all the Mole blog readers know better. ��

Maybe it's because I've had to post many responses to that particular article
and people's interpretation of it which have been shown to be incorrect.

Shefwedfan · 19-02-2019 7:36pm

Kirk Van Houten wrote: »

Maybe it's because I've had to post many responses to that particular article
and people's interpretation of it which have been shown to be incorrect.

Please enlighten us to what the correct interpretation should be?

Kirk Van Houten · 19-02-2019 7:41pm

A NIE as a back up to a first choice international regular is a perfectly good idea that has been around since the early 00s. It allows for a continuity of standard when that international is unavailable and in a lot of cases is used to help develop players around them.

Freddie Puccarillo did it when Marcus and Bull were first choice for Ireland. Botha is doing it in the back row for next season with CJ going to be missing. He can take the heavy carrying load off other players and allow Wycherley and others to focus on their game. Leinster used it with Isa and now Tomane and even Fardy.

It seems some posters either lack knowledge of how the system works or choose to ignore it to further their argument.

Kirk Van Houten · 19-02-2019 7:48pm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Kirk Van Houten wrote: »

Maybe it's because I've had to post many responses to that particular article
and people's interpretation of it which have been shown to be incorrect.

Please enlighten us to what the correct interpretation should be?

Well not being able to count the number of half backs in each province for a starter or the whataboutery when pointing out how many senior out halfs Leinster had last season is the same as they bloated number Munster have this season. Little FACTS like that. But you work away.

awec · 19-02-2019 7:56pm

This is the Munster thread. Non-Munster supporting posters are welcome to post, but remember that it's going to be pro-Munster discussion and pontification or sly little jibes will not be tolerated.

If you can't contain yourself and keep it civil and constructive, don't post in this thread.

Shefwedfan · 19-02-2019 8:06pm

Kirk Van Houten wrote: »

A NIE as a back up to a first choice international regular is a perfectly good idea that has been around since the early 00s. It allows for a continuity of standard when that international is unavailable and in a lot of cases is used to help develop players around them.

Freddie Puccarillo did it when Marcus and Bull were first choice for Ireland. Botha is doing it in the back row for next season with CJ going to be missing. He can take the heavy carrying load off other players and allow Wycherley and others to focus on their game. Leinster used it with Isa and now Tomane and even Fardy.

It seems some posters either lack knowledge of how the system works or choose to ignore it to further their argument.

That arguement would be good only that Munster signed a player as a back up already and he is arriving in the summer.

Dont care if he is irish/NZ/SA whatever, Munster do not need to sign another player as back up....it is just a waste of money and resources

Also saying cover is needed for WC doesn't make sense, any games will be against Pro 14 sides who will also have the majority of their squad gone as well......

Kirk Van Houten wrote: »

Well not being able to count the number of half backs in each province for a starter or the whataboutery when pointing out how many senior out halfs Leinster had last season is the same as they bloated number Munster have this season. Little FACTS like that. But you work away.

That's not really an interpretation is it?

aloooof · 19-02-2019 8:21pm

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Shefwedfan wrote: »

Please enlighten us to what the correct interpretation should be?

You seem to have a strong opinion on Munster's NIQ's, so could you please enlighten us to what positions you think it acceptable for Munster to sign an overseas player?

Caranica · 19-02-2019 8:40pm

Keatley was released but neither Hart nor Williams has been. Is that indicative of the lack of demand for those players or caution in case we lose Alby?

Squidgy Black · 19-02-2019 8:43pm

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aloooof wrote: »

You seem to have a strong opinion on Munster's NIQ's, so could you please enlighten us to what positions you think it acceptable for Munster to sign an overseas player?

I'm a Leinster fan, and I couldn't give a shíte where any province signs NIQs for in the end, but the one loose guideline would be try to sign them as cover for a position where there isn't sufficient Irish cover (of a decentish standard).

Munster don't have any gaping needs for cover at the moment (from a quick glance) that would require a specific NIQ signing, but I would say potentially a back 3, especially during a RWC year. A utility player that could cover centre too (taking into account Farrell being gone and Bleyendaal potentially getting injured again) would be a good shout.

Squidgy Black · 19-02-2019 8:44pm

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Caranica wrote: »

Keatley was released but neither Hart nor Williams has been. Is that indicative of the lack of demand for those players or caution in case we lose Alby?

Hart is linked with going back to France, deal pending with Biarritz.

awec · 19-02-2019 8:51pm

Caranica wrote: »

Keatley was released but neither Hart nor Williams has been. Is that indicative of the lack of demand for those players or caution in case we lose Alby?

Are they both mid-contract?

Kirk Van Houten · 19-02-2019 9:00pm

Caranica wrote: »

Keatley was released but neither Hart nor Williams has been. Is that indicative of the lack of demand for those players or caution in case we lose Alby?

Keatley has been allowed to leave early because Tyler is now fit again and they deemed they had enough cover available in Carbery JJ Tyler and Bill J. But if London Irish didn't have an injury crisis at 10 he would still be at Munster until the summer when he goes to Italy.

Hart is going back to France and Williams isnt likely to get a deal. He hasnt played for Munster for a number of months now. He doesn't feature in their medium to long term plans.

The idea of only needing three scrum halfs comes I believe because that's what Leinster have. Connacht for example have 5 senior scrum halfs on the books this season.

The Lost Sheep · 19-02-2019 9:28pm

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awec wrote: »

Are they both mid-contract?

Duncan got an extension last time round until end of this season. and Hart was signed on 2 year deal.
Both contracts up end of the season

awec · 19-02-2019 11:12pm

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Duncan got an extension last time round until end of this season. and Hart was signed on 2 year deal.
Both contracts up end of the season

Then it'll not matter how in demand they are, Munster can let both go if they wish.

connemara man · 20-02-2019 12:33am

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Kirk Van Houten wrote: »

Keatley has been allowed to leave early because Tyler is now fit again and they deemed they had enough cover available in Carbery JJ Tyler and Bill J. But if London Irish didn't have an injury crisis at 10 he would still be at Munster until the summer when he goes to Italy.

Hart is going back to France and Williams isnt likely to get a deal. He hasnt played for Munster for a number of months now. He doesn't feature in their medium to long term plans.

The idea of only needing three scrum halfs comes I believe because that's what Leinster have. Connacht for example have 5 senior scrum halfs on the books this season.

4 senior and 1 academy

With Conor McKeon injured all season, Kerins not long back from injury. Marmion injured away with Ireland half the season.

In practical terms Connacht have had 2-2.5 scrumhalfs up until now this season

salmocab · 20-02-2019 9:16am

I’m surprised anyone cares about this, Munster do not need him but he’s better than what they have and will have next season. If I was Mc Carthy I’d be very annoyed as I’d assume he was told he’d have a run at being second choice next season but that’s just one person put out.
Ireland have enough 9s getting game time with the starter at each province being an international along with Blade and soon to be JGP.
It would be nice to never to need any overseas players but that’s not likely to ever be the case.
This is a nothing argument in my opinion.

Sabre0001 · 20-02-2019 11:15am

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All that was said was that it would be great to keep him. And suddenly people are speculating like Munster are trying to keep him to cover the 2023 World Cup

There's been nothing to indicate that we'd like to keep him after the end of the season. Perhaps that news will break at some point but at the moment mountains are being made out of molehills.

For the moment, he's playing good stuff and would be a good back up option to have at the business end of the season. Also, JVG is quite positive about his contributions in camp and the younger guys might pick up a thing or two from him (why have one good mentor when you can have two). If he gets extended to the end of the season, that would be beneficial for us. And that extension wouldn't impact McCarthy in any way.

Now for it to be announced that he's getting a two year deal!

aloooof · 20-02-2019 11:30am

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Sabre0001 wrote: »

...but at the moment mountains are being made out of molehills.

Nicely played!

Defunkd · 20-02-2019 11:33am

I hope AM is kept on. Munster have indicated they want to keep him and the man himself would stay if a decent contract is offered. Not every signing works out, no matter how well a man has played before coming to Munster, or how much potential he has. When you get one who fits in as quickly as AM has and has produced from the word 'go', it'd be crazy to not even try to keep him.

Sabre0001 · 20-02-2019 11:33am

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aloooof wrote: »

Nicely played!

Ha! Unintended

Caranica · 20-02-2019 12:07pm

https://munsterrugby.ie/2019/02/20/contract-update-five-players-sign-extensions/

Alby to end of the season and Tyler to 2021!

"Munster Rugby and the IRFU are pleased to confirm Tyler Bleyendaal, Ciaran Parker and Alby Mathewson have all signed contract extensions at the province.
The Greencore Munster Rugby Academy duo of Sean O’Connor and Keynan Knox have also put pen to paper.

Tyler Bleyendaal has made 47 appearances in red since his debut in September 2015 and has captained the province on 11 occasions. Munster’s Player of the Year in 2017, the New Zealand-born playmaker will remain with the province until June 2021.

Tighthead prop Ciaran Parker will move from a development contract to a senior contract for next season. The 23-year-old has made 11 appearances for the province.

Scrum-half Alby Mathewson will remain with the province until the end of the season after signing a further extension. The former All Black has played for Munster on 13 occasions, scoring two tries.

22-year-old Sean O’Connor will advance to the senior squad next season on a one-year development contract after completing his three years in the Academy. The versatile Tipperary native can play at lock and in the back row and has made nine appearances for the province. In 2016 he featured for the Ireland U20s side that secured their best-ever finish as runners-up at the World Rugby U20 Championship in England.

Keynan Knox has signed a three-year deal with the province that sees him continue with the Academy for a further year before advancing to the senior ranks. The 19-year-old Young Munster player featured for Munster A on five occasions in the Celtic Cup earlier this season."

Pepp1989 · 20-02-2019 12:10pm

Very surprised with the Tyler news.

Great for Munster re alby. Going to be vital at the business end of the season.

Cookiemunster · 20-02-2019 12:10pm

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Contract extensions.

Mathewson extends until........................................ the end of the season.

Bleyendaal extends until 2021.

Ciaran Parker signs a senior contract (no dates though).

Sean O'Connor signs a development contract.

Kenyan Knox signs a 3 years contract, but has one more year in the academy.

Buer · 20-02-2019 12:11pm

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Sensible decisions which will benefit Munster.

Interesting one on Keynan Knox. I don't think I've seen a player sign such a contract before where it basically keeps him in the academy for the final year of his stint whilst guaranteeing him a move up to the senior ranks thereafter.

yerrahbah · 20-02-2019 12:16pm

Delighted that Mathewson is staying until the end of the season.

Haven't seen anything from TB to say he warrants a contract extension. He'll be useful around the RWC though.

The more contracts that get handed out the worse it looks for Williams and Hart.

thomond2006 · 20-02-2019 12:19pm

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List time!

Eod100 · 20-02-2019 12:21pm

Bit surprised about TB being kept. Matthewson decision makes sense.

Must see a lot of potential for Keynan Knox. Would 3 years residency start from when he was with academy? Or moves up to senior side?

Might not be good news for anyone left subcontracted but still a couple of months left in season.

Caranica · 20-02-2019 12:22pm

Buer wrote: »

Sensible decisions which will benefit Munster.

Interesting one on Keynan Knox. I don't think I've seen a player sign such a contract before where it basically keeps him in the academy for the final year of his stint whilst guaranteeing him a move up to the senior ranks thereafter.

He was signed from a South African school iirc. Will be IQ in his first senior year as he came in before the residency rule changed

thomond2006 · 20-02-2019 12:22pm

A new born king to see POM POM POM POM POM

Kevin O'Byrne 2020
Rhys Marshall 2021
Niall Scannell 2021
Mike Sherry 2019

Diarmuid Barron Year 1
Eoghan Clarke Year 1

James Cronin 2021
Dave Kilcoyne 2020
Liam O'Connor 2020
Jeremy Loughman 2020

James French Year 1
Josh Wycherley Year 1

Stephen Archer 2020
John Ryan 2022
Brian Scott 2020
Ciaran Parker 2020

Keynan Knox Year 3 & 2022

Tadhg Beirne 2020
Billy Holland 2020
Jean Kleyn 2022
Sean O'Connor 2020
Darren O'Shea 2020
Fineen Wycherley 2021

Thomas Ahern Year 1

Arno Botha 2020
Gavin Coombes 2021
Chris Cloete 2022
Dave O'Callaghan 2019
Tommy O'Donnell 2021
Jack O'Donoghue 2021
Peter O'Mahony 2021
Conor Oliver 2020
CJ Stander 2021

Jack Daly Year 1
Jack O'Sullivan Year 2

Neil Cronin 2021
Nick McCarthy 2021
James Hart 2019
Alby Mathewson 2019
Conor Murray 2022
Duncan Williams 2019

Craig Casey Year 2
Jack Stafford Year 2

Tyler Bleyendaal 2021
Joey Carbery 2020
JJ Hanrahan 2021
Bill Johnston 2020

Ben Healy Year 1
Alan Tynan Year 2

Sam Arnold 2020
Shane Daly 2021
Chris Farrell 2022
Dan Goggin 2020
Rory Scannell 2021
Jaco Taute 2019

Sean French Year 1
Alex McHenry Year 2
Matt More Year 2

Andrew Conway 2020
Keith Earls 2021
Stephen Fitzgerald 2019 - on loan at Connacht
Mike Haley 2021
Ronan O'Mahony 2019
Calvin Nash 2021
Darren Sweetnam 2021
Alex Wootton 2021

Liam Coombes Year 2
James McCarthy Year 2
Jonathan Wren Year 1

2019/20 Movements:
IN: Nick McCarthy (SH, Leinster)
OUT: Ian Keatley (FH, Benetton)

2019/20 NIEs:
Arno Botha (capped), Chris Cloete (uncapped)

Caranica · 20-02-2019 12:23pm

Eod100 wrote: »

Must see a lot of potential for Keynan Knox. Would 3 years residency start from when he was with academy? Or moves up to senior side?

Great minds

Would imagine residency is residency

thomond2006 · 20-02-2019 12:23pm

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Buer wrote: »

Sensible decisions which will benefit Munster.

Interesting one on Keynan Knox. I don't think I've seen a player sign such a contract before where it basically keeps him in the academy for the final year of his stint whilst guaranteeing him a move up to the senior ranks thereafter.

Knox hasn't even made a Pro14 appearance yet. He must be very highly rated indeed and/or there was interest for his services elsewhere.

Bleyendaal getting two years is a bit of a surprise. Perhaps his ability to cover centre is what pushed it over the line.

Buer · 20-02-2019 12:24pm

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Caranica wrote: »

He was signed from a South African school iirc. Will be IQ in his first senior year as he came in before the residency rule changed

Good point. I imagine Munster/IRFU want to tie him down for a little longer to see how he turns out. Last thing they want to do is invest 3 years in a bloke, get him properly conditioned and trained up as a pro player only to see him head back to SA.

Buer · 20-02-2019 12:30pm

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Eod100 wrote: »

Must see a lot of potential for Keynan Knox. Would 3 years residency start from when he was with academy? Or moves up to senior side?

It commences once Ireland became his primary place of residency.

thomond2006 · 20-02-2019 12:31pm

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Mike Sherry
Dave O'Callaghan
James Hart
Alby Mathewson
Duncan Williams
Jaco Taute
Stephen Fitzgerald - on loan at Connacht
Ronan O'Mahony

Eod100 · 20-02-2019 12:33pm

thomond2006 wrote: »

Kevin O'Byrne 2020
Rhys Marshall 2021
Niall Scannell 2021
Mike Sherry 2019

Diarmuid Barron Year 1
Eoghan Clarke Year 1

James Cronin 2021
Dave Kilcoyne 2020
Liam O'Connor 2020
Jeremy Loughman 2020

James French Year 1
Josh Wycherley Year 1

Stephen Archer 2020
John Ryan 2022
Brian Scott 2020
Ciaran Parker 2020

Keynan Knox Year 3 & 2022

Tadhg Beirne 2020
Billy Holland 2020
Jean Kleyn 2022
Sean O'Connor 2020
Darren O'Shea 2020
Fineen Wycherley 2021

Thomas Ahern Year 1

Arno Botha 2020
Gavin Coombes 2021
Chris Cloete 2022
Dave O'Callaghan 2019
Tommy O'Donnell 2021
Jack O'Donoghue 2021
Peter O'Mahony 2021
Conor Oliver 2020
CJ Stander 2021

Jack Daly Year 1
Jack O'Sullivan Year 2

Neil Cronin 2021
Nick McCarthy 2021
James Hart 2019
Alby Mathewson 2019
Conor Murray 2022
Duncan Williams 2019

Craig Casey Year 2
Jack Stafford Year 2

Tyler Bleyendaal 2021
Joey Carbery 2020
JJ Hanrahan 2021
Bill Johnston 2020

Ben Healy Year 1
Alan Tynan Year 2

Sam Arnold 2020
Shane Daly 2021
Chris Farrell 2022
Dan Goggin 2020
Rory Scannell 2021
Jaco Taute 2019

Sean French Year 1
Alex McHenry Year 2
Matt More Year 2

Andrew Conway 2020
Keith Earls 2021
Stephen Fitzgerald 2019 - on loan at Connacht
Mike Haley 2021
Ronan O'Mahony 2019
Calvin Nash 2021
Darren Sweetnam 2021
Alex Wootton 2021

Liam Coombes Year 2
James McCarthy Year 2
Jonathan Wren Year 1

2019/20 Movements:
IN: Nick McCarthy (SH, Leinster)
OUT: Ian Keatley (FH, Benetton)

2019/20 NIEs:
Arno Botha (capped), Chris Cloete (uncapped)

Seems Sherry and Taute are almost certain to be gone. Think same for ROM. Would have thought Williams is likely to go, don't think Matthewson extension changes much for him.

Fitzgerald is with Connacht til end of season, dunno could he be kept on there.

Rumours of France for Hart and DOC.

Henry Ford III · 20-02-2019 12:36pm

Well that announcement surprised a few ðŸ˜‚

Homesick Alien · 20-02-2019 12:44pm

Yeah very surprised at TB extension. Have seen nothing from him of late to warrant that unless he is on significantly reduced pay. Hope he can step up.

Cookiemunster · 20-02-2019 12:47pm

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thomond2006 wrote: »

Mike Sherry
Dave O'Callaghan
James Hart
Alby Mathewson
Duncan Williams
Jaco Taute
Stephen Fitzgerald - on loan at Connacht
Ronan O'Mahony

I can't see many (if any) of those getting contracts.

yerrahbah · 20-02-2019 12:49pm

thomond2006 wrote: »

Mike Sherry
Dave O'Callaghan
James Hart
Alby Mathewson
Duncan Williams
Jaco Taute
Stephen Fitzgerald - on loan at Connacht
Ronan O'Mahony

Sherry was such a talented player.
Cursed by injury.
Still only 30

Eod100 · 20-02-2019 12:52pm

Cookiemunster wrote: »

I can't see many (if any) of those getting contracts.

Bar Williams don't think many have featured that much this season, think you're right. Feel for Sherry the most.

aloooof · 20-02-2019 12:56pm

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Eod100 wrote: »

Bar Williams don't think many have featured that much this season, think you're right. Feel for Sherry the most.

I think Sherry got a few starts near the start of the season, but that was about it.

Kirk Van Houten · 20-02-2019 1:29pm

Knox is a fantastic prospect. Already impressive at AIL level and holding his own at A level. He's still only 19.
He may need another season or two to make it through to Pro14 level and that's why Parker got his extension to help bridge that gap.

As for Alby - very similar to Taute and how his contracts were managed.

LuckyGent88 · 20-02-2019 1:32pm

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Delighted with the extension for AB. Really brings an energy to the team once he is playing.

Surprised with the resigning of TB. Injury prone and when he has played lately he has been pretty poor especially kicking from hand.

Tomtom364 · 20-02-2019 1:32pm

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I for one am delighted, and not surprised to see Tyler getting a deal. Currently Scannell is our only center that really plays 12, all the others are 13s who can do a job. Tyler covers 10/12 to a good standard.

I also think it is a really bit testament to him that he now captains the team ahead of Billy Holland when both play. Really shows how the players and coaches feel about him. "The General" nickname does sound like it runs true from the bits about him I've heard in interviews of coaches and other players over the seasons.

Also delighted for Matthewson, next season aside, he definitely deserved an extension to see out this season and Munster can certainly make good use of him. Said it before, I hate seeing any player out of contract in March/April, on a personal level for the player.

Munster Team Talk Thread VI - Stander Up and Fight

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