Mens Rights Thread

Defunkd · 11-02-2019 11:54pm

According to The Journal "Activists and Unions"(doesn't say which Unions) are calling for a mass walkout at 3pm this Intl Women's Day to demonstrate/call for:

An end to gender-based violence and harassment;
Closure of the gender pay gap;
An end to precarious conditions in work and housing;
Solidarity with the struggle for abortion rights in the North.

The activist is Ruth Coppinger.

A bit of a mish-mash of objectives but enough variety to draw a figure worth reporting about or to justify sending a photographer along. Safe to say i won't be downing tools to support them. What about you, TGC?

Sleepy · 12-02-2019 10:40am

Reviews and Books Galore wrote: »

Well, feminism is seeing sexism in the fashion of a hierarchal relationship between men and women where women are in a negative position. And, irregardless of the latter comment, it does see sexism as hierarchal.

So, I'm not sure egalitarians are actually feminists?

That, like all other definitions of feminism, is one interpretation of what the movement stands for.

Some feminists are perfectly sane egalitarians, others are slavering man-hating zealots, most fall somewhere in between and simply cling to a narrative that tells them they're victims of a systemic imbalance in society rather than accept reality and face the fact that the lives they're seemingly so unsatisfied with are the sum total of their own choices and actions.

iptba · 16-02-2019 4:21am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKDigBdzNnU

(3 minutes)

drunkmonkey · 16-02-2019 2:49pm

iptba · 17-02-2019 3:22am

Just a random observation, not very important:
I was listening to Newstalk there and a woman was talking about noisy people on public transport.
She said she tends to go up the people and asks them to turn down loud music.
She says her partner tends to dislike her doing that. The presenter asked why and she said "he's the man, so I suppose he'll have to deal with any consequences."

...Ghost... · 17-02-2019 11:41am

iptba wrote: »

Just a random observation, not very important:
I was listening to Newstalk there and a woman was talking about noisy people on public transport.
She said she tends to go up the people and asks them to turn down loud music.
She says her partner tends to dislike her doing that. The presenter asked why and she said "he's the man, so I suppose he'll have to deal with any consequences."

I heard that too. It goes to show how little consideration some women give to their own partners well-being.

iptba · 27-02-2019 5:31am

Here's the latest batch of gender-related hashtags I have noticed trending for anyone interested (I know some are not)
(Aside: I'm not on Twitter 24/7 of course and don't look back at lists for when I wasn't on)

#GalentinesDay
Women celebrate their gal pals on Galentine's Day
[Seems harmless]

#WorkingfortheHome
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/working-for-the-home-past-and-present-tickets-55018991284#
https://twitter.com/Chealy_/status/1096471803013279745
https://twitter.com/CA_Meehan/status/1096446593916698631

#VisibleWomen
Visible Women
http://milkfed.us/events/visiblewomen-monday-february-18th/
We’re doing another round of #VisibleWomen on Monday, February 18th, 2019. Just like last time, we’re accepting submissions of women* colorists, letterers, inkers and writers as well as artists.

#JumpGirls: a two part doc on the leading women in National Hunt racing.

#HerNameIsClodagh
Claire Byrne live piece on a man who killed his partner and children.
I didn't see but the Twitter commentary suggested it may only have focused on male perpetrators.
https://twitter.com/SAFEIreland/status/1100160061987581954
https://twitter.com/YvieNi/status/1100164392140898304

#womensinspire
#womensinspire

womensinspireIE
@WomensInspireIE
Support for #FemaleEntrepreneurs Founded by @Tweetinggoddess - Join us https://www.womensinspirenetwork.com/membership Let's grow together
Global
womensinspirenetwork.com

iptba · 02-03-2019 12:34am

I just heard a radio ad for the following:

Bus Driver Recruitment Day for Women
https://www.jobalert.ie/job/bus-driver-recruitment-day-for-women-bus-eireann

Not, strictly speaking, discrimination, though it is possible there is some positive discrimination.

Also in general, there seems to be much more of such campaigns aimed at women.

iptba · 02-03-2019 3:05am

San Diego-Based Group Wins U.S. Suit: Male-Only Draft Unconstitutional

Even though America hasn’t had a military draft since 1973, men — but not women — are required to register with the Selective Service.
A federal judge Friday said that must change — calling the system unconstitutional but not requiring women 18-25 to register*.

U.S. District Judge Gray H. Miller in Houston agreed with the San Diego-based National Coalition for Men and granted its request for summary judgment in a class action suit.

Continues at:
https://timesofsandiego.com/military/2019/02/23/san-diego-based-group-wins-u-s-suit-male-only-draft-unconstitutional/amp/

Defunkd · 03-03-2019 1:25pm

iptba wrote: »

Continues at:
https://timesofsandiego.com/military/2019/02/23/san-diego-based-group-wins-u-s-suit-male-only-draft-unconstitutional/amp/

Saw some twitter reaction to that last night: "an attack on women", "misogynistic", "blatant sexism" and the "Patriarchy" were quotes from different female sources. Quite a lot of women said if their number was called, they'd be pregnant. Equality indeed.

That said, i wouldn't accept a draft to go liberate some Country from its oil reserves or to install some puppet leader.

iptba · 03-03-2019 3:26pm

Defunkd wrote: »

Saw some twitter reaction to that last night: "an attack on women", "misogynistic", "blatant sexism" and the "Patriarchy" were quotes from different female sources. Quite a lot of women said if their number was called, they'd be pregnant. Equality indeed.

That said, i wouldn't accept a draft to go liberate some Country from its oil reserves or to install some puppet leader.

I’d be in no rush to be drafted either. But it’s a question of equality. Also if there are women in the pool, the chance of any individual male being drafted should be reduced or they might reduce the age range. There are lots of women in paid positions in the military and indeed in Ireland, I think women are not excluded from any paid positions.

Defunkd · 03-03-2019 4:47pm

I have a friend who served in the Irish Army and the females got out of a lot of duties and manoeuvers (however it's spelled) by telling the NCO they had cramps or period-related trouble. A handy card to play.

iptba · 06-03-2019 9:00pm

Here's the latest batch of gender-related hashtags I have noticed trending for anyone interested (I know some are not)
(Aside: I'm not on Twitter 24/7 of course and don't look back at lists for when I wasn't on)

#InternationalWomensDay
[1st time March 1; Then May 5]

#InternationalWomensDay2019
March 4

International Women

#IWD2019

#SupportHerSport
https://twitter.com/RowingIreland/status/1102911759457968130
https://twitter.com/LibertyIRL/status/1102904880837128192

#WomenOnWalls
https://twitter.com/RCSI_Irl/status/1102909299431534592

#womensinspire
womensinspireIE
@WomensInspireIE
Support for #FemaleEntrepreneurs Founded by @Tweetinggoddess - Join us https://www.womensinspirenetwork.com/membership Let's grow together

#StepUp
I'm not sure what this hashtag is supposed to be about, but nearly all the tweets using it relate to women-only events, it seems
https://twitter.com/NetworkCork/status/1103380864774361088
Network Cork
@NetworkCork
Progressive, dynamic organisation for professional women.15 branches: Dublin, Louth, Meath, Cork, Limerick, Tipperary,Kildare, Galway, Mayo & more! #NetworkCork
https://twitter.com/networkgalway/status/1103377088822816770

H3llR4iser · 07-03-2019 3:59pm

iptba wrote: »

Just a random observation, not very important:
I was listening to Newstalk there and a woman was talking about noisy people on public transport.
She said she tends to go up the people and asks them to turn down loud music.
She says her partner tends to dislike her doing that. The presenter asked why and she said "he's the man, so I suppose he'll have to deal with any consequences."

...Ghost... wrote: »

I heard that too. It goes to show how little consideration some women give to their own partners well-being.

Well, it's the most common one isn't it - playing the "I'm a woman!" card when faced with the prospect of dealing with the consequences of one own actions. I've seen it so many times I've lost count.

As for the "well being" of her partner, it's not just that she can't give a passing p1ss about it - she's clearly very conscious about the fact she might very well be actively putting him in danger...and she's almost proud of it.

That guy should get aways from her ASAP.

iptba · 07-03-2019 8:57pm

Here's the latest batch of gender-related hashtags I have noticed trending for anyone interested (I know some are not)
(Aside: I'm not on Twitter 24/7 of course and don't look back at lists for when I wasn't on)

It's been a busy day for gender-related trends today and it's not even International Women's Day yet.

#InternationalWomensDay

I didn't find this on Twitter but thought I would mention it
"University College Cork has developed a new campaign for International Women’s Day where women put forward other women to highlight their achievements.
[..]
Developed by UCC’s Media Office, the campaign features portraits of 11 women taken by Cork-based photographer Clare Keogh with accompanying explanation on why they admire the women they have chosen."
Balance would be doing the same for men for International Men's Day, but I don't recall anything similar and doubts they will do it.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/examviral/the-people-behind-the-portraits-ucc-launch-campaign-to-build-women-up-909365.html

#WomenInSport

#ItStopsNow
https://twitter.com/AnTaobhRua/status/1103000044935041024
https://twitter.com/ItStopsNow_EU/status/1103590643429830656

#ProstitutionSeminar
https://twitter.com/RuhamaAgency/status/1103711633308860416
https://twitter.com/RuhamaAgency/status/1103710401533902848

(Continues)

iptba · 07-03-2019 8:58pm

(Continued)
#RTEHourglass
https://twitter.com/m_marchewka/status/1103730251518169089
https://twitter.com/ssling/status/1103730782466641921
https://twitter.com/techwomengalway/status/1103734587904151556

Calhoun · 07-03-2019 9:26pm

Of course its busy with them, big money in it lol. Look at how Captain Marvel is being marketed alongside International womans day.

Unfortunately hashtags and echo chambers don't always translate to off the web.

py2006 · 08-03-2019 12:54pm

Not really sexism but Aer Lingus giving free priority boarding to women today.

gizmo555 · 08-03-2019 1:06pm

py2006 wrote: »

Not really sexism but Aer Lingus giving free priority boarding to women today.

Seems pretty sexist to me, not to mention nonsensical. If half the population gets it, it's not much of a priority. And if a woman is travelling with a man, is she supposed to thumb her nose at him and rush ahead to take her "gender priority"?

Just Aer Lingus virtue signalling.

cgcsb · 08-03-2019 1:08pm

py2006 wrote: »

Not really sexism but Aer Lingus giving free priority boarding to women today.

Pretty sure that's an actual violation of the equal status act 2001

iptba · 08-03-2019 3:14pm

py2006 wrote: »

Not really sexism but Aer Lingus giving free priority boarding to women today.

For it not to be sexist, they would need to do the same for men on International Men’s Day which my guess is they won’t do.

py2006 · 08-03-2019 6:40pm

iptba wrote: »

For it not to be sexist, they would need to do the same for men on International Men’s Day which my guess is they won’t do.

We should all send them a msg to remind them on the day

backspin. · 08-03-2019 8:47pm

International women's Day in 2019 in the West is about as necessary as international fast food day for obese people.

Women have never had it so good. It's ridiculous that feminists are out there pretending like they live in some sort of oppressive society. I'm perplexed that society isn't waking up to that fact. How much longer will this mass delusion continue.

iptba · 09-03-2019 5:54am

Here's the latest batch of gender-related hashtags I have noticed trending for anyone interested (I know some are not)
(Aside: I'm not on Twitter 24/7 of course and don't look back at lists for when I wasn't on)

There were a huge number of posts on Friday from the random people, bodies and charities I follow about international women's day. At one time nearly all the trends related to international women's day and women.

At one stage even a hashtag typo was trending i.e. #IWD2109

#IWD2019

International Women’s Day: 11 of the best events around Ireland
Events big and offbeat call for gender balance and celebrate achievements
https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/people/international-women-s-day-11-of-the-best-events-around-ireland-1.3814896

#WMI
This #IWD, Tesco opens its aisles to the Women’s Museum of Ireland
Promoted by Tesco Ireland
https://twitter.com/TescoIrl/status/1103897634933096449

Promoted post i.e. a paid-for ad
https://twitter.com/fiannafailparty/status/1103974677670707200?s=11

Another ad:
https://twitter.com/threeireland/status/1103928339293597696?s=11

Another ad:
https://twitter.com/tg4tv/status/1103979150774337537?s=11

#IWD2019
IWD: 'Balance for Better' is the 2019 International Women's Day theme

#ShowYourStripes
https://twitter.com/NWCI/status/1103914784838234114
#ShowYourStripes
Promoted
20x20‏ @20x20_ie 15h15 hours ago
Happy International Women’s Day. Today we're asking everyone to #ShowYourStripes and pledge 1 action for girls and women in sport. #IWD2019 #20x20 @iresport

Womenscouncilireland‏
This #IWD2019 NWCI is asking our followers to pledge ONE action to support girls & women in sport to make a genuine shift & give the gift of sport to more girls. To show your support post your action for someone else or yourself (big or small) using #ShowYourStripes #20x20

Aer Lingus‏Verified account @AerLingus
https://twitter.com/AerLingus/status/1103807793163718656
An International Woman's Day #HomeAdvantage #IREvFRA
Promoted

#InternationalWomensDay
IWD: 'Balance for Better' is the 2019 International Women's Day theme

#BalanceforBetter

#GenderEquality
Central Statistics Office Ireland is Tweeting about this

#WomenInSTEM

#IWD19
#IWDay2019

#BuildingResilience
https://twitter.com/EarlieLinda/status/1104030003828875265
Network Ireland
@Network_Ireland
Leading • Supporting • Collaborating • Driving the professional & personal development of women #NetworkIreland #StepUp

"O'Connell Bridge"
https://twitter.com/AndrewNRoberts/status/1104036953744384000
https://twitter.com/thejournal_ie/status/1104047336777490432

#Time4Equality
https://twitter.com/ashQzack/status/1104075951946780675
https://twitter.com/ashQzack/status/1104072600463073280

silverharp · 09-03-2019 10:21am

the male feminist on the left in the last pic though.......

backspin. · 09-03-2019 10:32am

I work with about 70% women. Not one mention of international women's Day yesterday.

Seems to be the media pushing it the most.

H3llR4iser · 13-03-2019 1:02pm

So...please help me understand: I've seen a poster for that "If she can't see it, she can't be it" campaign while at the gym; it's the one that depicts a little girl watching on a youngish lady playing some field sport.

I was frankly positively impressed by the message, as I saw it as an invitation to WOMEN to be positive, active and actually set an example...an extremely well communicated message, delivered in a non-divisive way that would basically gain the support of anybody with half a brain.

Which begs the question - have I got it wrong?

Calhoun · 13-03-2019 3:04pm

Wrong in what way ?

H3llR4iser · 13-03-2019 3:24pm

Calhoun wrote: »

Wrong in what way ?

That it's basically yet another rant about "women sports not getting attention" because, well, "male privilege!"? That's the feel I get from the social media posts above...

Day Lewin · 13-03-2019 6:15pm

H3llR4iser wrote: »

So...please help me understand: I've seen a poster for that "If she can't see it, she can't be it" campaign while at the gym; it's the one that depicts a little girl watching on a youngish lady playing some field sport.

I was frankly positively impressed by the message, as I saw it as an invitation to WOMEN to be positive, active and actually set an example...an extremely well communicated message, delivered in a non-divisive way that would basically gain the support of anybody with half a brain.

Which begs the question - have I got it wrong?

Course you haven't got it wrong: what would have given you that idea?
A very nice ad, timely, apt, and well placed. Let's hope it succeeds.

Could you be in the wrong forum?

Calhoun · 13-03-2019 6:32pm

H3llR4iser wrote: »

That it's basically yet another rant about "women sports not getting attention" because, well, "male privilege!"? That's the feel I get from the social media posts above...

You saw it on a poster that's shown to normies in the real world, all the crap above is designed to be consumed by the Twitter circle jerk/echo chamber .

iptba · 13-03-2019 6:58pm

Regarding Twitter ads on International Women's Day: I don't recall seeing companies making similar ads for International Men's Day. That's a bias. Similarly, all the companies promoting the day in one way or another in other ways.
So an ad by itself might not be problematic if the companies are willing to do the same to support/promote/similar men.

H3llR4iser · 13-03-2019 7:00pm

Calhoun wrote: »

You saw it on a poster that's shown to normies in the real world, all the crap above is designed to be consumed by the Twitter circle jerk/echo chamber .

I sincerely hope you're right - a year ago I would have had no doubt, but I'm increasingly seeing the Twatter nonsene seeping into the "real world", including the attitude where if you don't totally agree with the hyper-divisive rhetoric it you're labeled a "far right conservative". Meh.

As for the poster - it's a good campaign, bringing forth a very important message without, essentially, pissing anyone off. I wish more learnt how to deliver in this way on both sides- it's impossible for anyone who isn't a complete troglodyte to disagree with it.

Instead, the media often goes the "shock & awe" way, cramming a political agenda into what should be entertainment products (e.g. Captain Marvel, Star Trek Discovery) and trying to showe it down everyone's throat. Trying to explain the difficulties and issues affecting 50% of the population by berating the other 50%, implying they don't face any issues, have nothing to complain about, actually, well they are the cause of all the suffering...yeah, not going to work too well except for the sensational effect. You'd imagine anybody would be able to figure this out...and yet.

Calhoun · 13-03-2019 8:08pm

H3llR4iser wrote: »

I sincerely hope you're right - a year ago I would have had no doubt, but I'm increasingly seeing the Twatter nonsene seeping into the "real world", including the attitude where if you don't totally agree with the hyper-divisive rhetoric it you're labeled a "far right conservative". Meh.

As for the poster - it's a good campaign, bringing forth a very important message without, essentially, pissing anyone off. I wish more learnt how to deliver in this way on both sides- it's impossible for anyone who isn't a complete troglodyte to disagree with it.

Instead, the media often goes the "shock & awe" way, cramming a political agenda into what should be entertainment products (e.g. Captain Marvel, Star Trek Discovery) and trying to showe it down everyone's throat. Trying to explain the difficulties and issues affecting 50% of the population by berating the other 50%, implying they don't face any issues, have nothing to complain about, actually, well they are the cause of all the suffering...yeah, not going to work too well except for the sensational effect. You'd imagine anybody would be able to figure this out...and yet.

We shall see how it plays out, you will always have a minority of idiots regardless of being online and offline. I have not come across someone so closed minded as to call someone far right outside of the internet sphere.

Thing's aren't going to change until it hits business bottom line. Its already starting as Vox, Buzzfeed and i believe forbes opinion piece have recently let go huge numbers of their opinion piece folk who are essentially driving the social justice victim narrative.

I would say though the 20x20 thing doesn't seem to be all positive as its essentially a form of positive discrimination for womens sport with 20% increased media coverage ect and a nice welfare 20% increased participation at matches ect. I have no real interest in much sport but if i did i would watch what interests me and not because of political activism.

iptba · 21-03-2019 11:51pm

I wasn't sure where this was going, but in the end, I thought it wasn't too bad.

From the Irish Examiner:
Learning Points: Game, set, and match for toxic masculinity?
By Richard Hogan
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/lifestyle/learning-points-game-set-and-match-for-toxic-masculinity-912275.html

H3llR4iser · 22-03-2019 11:03am

iptba wrote: »

I wasn't sure where this was going, but in the end, I thought it wasn't too bad.

From the Irish Examiner:
Learning Points: Game, set, and match for toxic masculinity?
By Richard Hogan
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/lifestyle/learning-points-game-set-and-match-for-toxic-masculinity-912275.html

Quite interesting indeed - I had only casually seen the Nike ad, and remember thinking "really, Serena 'you don't know who I am' Williams as a champion of women's rights - the same one who literally took a dump on her opponent's defining career moment because she can't deal with losing...

iptba · 30-03-2019 11:15pm

A seven-year-old boy, against whom an allegation of sexual abuse was made to Tusla, is to have a file on him retained on record in the child and family agency despite the complete dismissal of the allegation.

“It destroyed us,” the boy’s father told the Irish Examiner. “I don’t say that softly. We have had to change school, club, and even the church we go to. My son is a soft guy and now he’s afraid to go near anybody. He did nothing wrong.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/tusla-to-retain-file-on-boy-7-cleared-of-sex-abuse-914319.html

Calhoun · 30-03-2019 11:39pm

iptba wrote: »

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/tusla-to-retain-file-on-boy-7-cleared-of-sex-abuse-914319.html

This is the same organization involved that "accidently" slipped a dodgy file into a member of our police force that happened to just be challenging corruption.

They have also dropped the ball in many other places the whole thing stinks and the organization should be folded.

Silentcorner · 31-03-2019 12:05am

iptba wrote: »

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/tusla-to-retain-file-on-boy-7-cleared-of-sex-abuse-914319.html

I feel so sorry for young boys in the education system, it was bad enough when I was a kid, but it must be very hard now.

Do these head bangers not realise where all this will end up...when todays young boys are ten years down the road full of testosterone and physical strength with a justified complete disdain for authority.

I just hope they have good fathers!

Young girls are not being helped by this...what will happen when they enter adulthood and expect the cake walk they have experienced since infants!...no amount of empowerment can protect you from the slog of life!

iptba · 02-04-2019 6:32pm

It's good to talk, man to man: The groups that support men who are living in loneliness
Irish men have traditionally been reluctant to express their feelings, particularly where isolation and loneliness are concerned. But things are slowly changing, as Kim Bielenberg found out when he dropped in to a men's support group

Hill Street Men's Group meets every Tuesday evening at 7pm. For more information on men's groups in Ireland see mensgroups.ie

https://www.independent.ie/life/its-good-to-talk-man-to-man-the-groups-that-support-men-who-are-living-in-loneliness-37971165.html

iptba · 14-04-2019 8:41pm

Boy must leave mother and live with father in the North, judge decides

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/boy-must-leave-mother-and-live-with-father-in-the-north-judge-decides-917595.html

Judge Robin Tolson felt the boy's relationship with his father was being undermined by his mother and his mother's mother.

I don't know anything more about this case. But I do hear about parent alienation syndrome, which I have heard many fathers complain about (online).

iptba · 17-04-2019 1:44am

silverharp · 21-04-2019 2:57pm

the guardian not doing a hit piece on jordan peterson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYnO2wuIiBg

FishOnABike · 29-04-2019 10:13am

I saw this report on breakingnews
https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/womens-aid-198000-women-financially-abused-by-their-partners-920690.html
and browsed through the impact report referred to in the article.
https://www.womensaid.ie/about/policy/publications/womens-aid-impact-report-2018/

Am I missing something or how does the article make the jump from 1540 disclosures of financial abuse to the headline number of 198000 financially abused by their partners?

This headline number is over 10 times the total number of contacts with women's aid and over 100 times the reported number of disclosures of financial abuse, without any explanation as to where this 198000 figure comes from.

the_pen_turner · 29-04-2019 1:20pm

I would like to see the gender break down of those figures.
They push the woman's aid side of these things without discussing how many men /women are affected
Given the revelation last year if the breakdown of the domestic violence stats that showed women are more likely to be the perpetrator rather then the victim.
If we see a similar breakdown then roughly half of victims would be men or lesbian women

iptba · 30-04-2019 4:26pm

It will be interesting to see what effect so many people having genetic tests like with Ancestry will have. Cases of misattributed paternity or paternity fraud are showing up. The children and spouses (if alive) can be quite upset. Also I saw one woman complaining she wanted to know her biological father for medical history reasons.

Mark Hamill · 02-05-2019 2:04pm

FishOnABike wrote: »

I saw this report on breakingnews
https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/womens-aid-198000-women-financially-abused-by-their-partners-920690.html
and browsed through the impact report referred to in the article.
https://www.womensaid.ie/about/policy/publications/womens-aid-impact-report-2018/

Am I missing something or how does the article make the jump from 1540 disclosures of financial abuse to the headline number of 198000 financially abused by their partners?

This headline number is over 10 times the total number of contacts with women's aid and over 100 times the reported number of disclosures of financial abuse, without any explanation as to where this 198000 figure comes from.

Did they just scale up to the total female population of Ireland?
Womans Aid had 19,000 total contacts with 1540 being financial related. Thats ~8.1% of total contacts being financially related.
Female population of Ireland is ~2.4M (~4.8 mill is total, women make up ~ 50%). 8.1% of that is 194,400.

ancapailldorcha · 03-05-2019 8:50am

silverharp wrote: »

the guardian not doing a hit piece on jordan peterson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYnO2wuIiBg

I don't see what the problem is. I quite like this series. It's the sort of thing the Guardian should be doing instead of clickbaity SJW pieces.

Part 2 is out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfPKMurs-OY

iptba · 03-05-2019 1:05pm

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

I don't see what the problem is. I quite like this series. It's the sort of thing the Guardian should be doing instead of clickbaity SJW pieces.

Part 2 is out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfPKMurs-OY

He said the Guardian *not* doing a hit piece on Jordan Peterson.

silverharp · 03-05-2019 1:42pm

iptba wrote: »

He said the Guardian *not* doing a hit piece on Jordan Peterson.

that was the news worthy bit

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