Peaceful protestors arrested

Potential-Monke · 28-03-2015 3:41pm

Road-Hog wrote: »

can anyone define what a peaceful protest should be......my attempt would be 'a Group of people with banners and placards (and maybe some chanting an effective /appropriate phrase marching up and down a road/street or stationary if at an event that has speakers / speeches in a civilised but effective manner???

Within the law. So, no blocking anywhere without prior agreement, no verbal abuse (chanting is grand), no throwing stuff, no blocking people in their cars, etc.

endacl · 28-03-2015 4:51pm

barneystinson wrote: »

Second time asking...

Linky to any video footage?

There doesn't apper to be any video in the FB link. There is a photographer. I clicked into his page. Let's see.....

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Interests: golf, irish rebel music (see above)

Photographer seems to be a computer generated stereotype. Bet he has a beer belly.

dirkmeister · 29-03-2015 1:00pm

Road-Hog wrote: »

can anyone define what a peaceful protest should be......my attempt would be 'a Group of people with banners and placards (and maybe some chanting an effective /appropriate phrase marching up and down a road/street or stationary if at an event that has speakers / speeches in a civilised but effective manner???

From what I've seen simply shouting "peaceful protest" validates whatever you are at.

S.O · 04-04-2015 3:18am

There is an article in this weeks Waterford news and star about this on page which I read in the local library, in the article it said the protester in question when Joan Burtons car was leaving the Granville hotel, a man lunged forward according to the garda , now if he lunged forward or not- I don,t know as I wasn,t there; but to play devils advocate if you are employed as private security or as a garda assigned to protect a public figure and someone lunges forward at the person you are assigned to protect, in all realistically you are gonna have to tackle that person to the ground as quick as possible as you do not know what the persons intent might be or if they are carrying a weapon on them, OP who started this thread, what is your own version of events ? did the protester in question lunge forward at the car ? and Im no fan of Joan Burton or supporter of the Labour party.

Guy:Incognito · 04-04-2015 3:41am

Hoffmans wrote: »

Nope its owned by big bad denis through a holding company just like siteservr and most media outlets so basically denis owns the state and all the little busy minions therein

Road-Hog wrote: »

I wonder did the Joan burton cavalcade pull up at a topaz at any stage ? Isn't Irish water a subsidiary of topaz? Free fuel and sandwiches etc. ðŸ˜„

See, this is what I like about people who go to lengths to oppose things. It's how well researched and thought out their views are. :rolleyes:

Which holding company owns Irish Water?

I'll save you the bother , its a subsidiary of Ervia (used to be Bord Gais Networks. It has the same set up as An Post , Bus Eireann, Bord na Mona , Coiltte, ESB, and Irish Rail etc.

Denis O 'Drien owns one of the companies sub contracted to fit meters. But sure hey, that must mean he owns the company that employs his company. (so does this then give him ownership of other meter installers? Or do they own his? It's all very confusing)

Heres a list from GMC Sierra's website of who they do work for here, that must mean they own all of these companies/departments/grpups, yeah?

Bord Gáis
Central Bank
Dublin Airport Authority
Dublin Port Company
eircom
Airtricity
ESB
ESBI
Northern Ireland Electricity
UPC
Office of Public Works
Railway Procurement Authority
Water Service NI
Waterways Ireland

Hoffmans · 05-04-2015 7:42pm

Burton was in the car cop pulled a peaceful protestor from the crowd and both of them fell to the street followed by the ballybricken ruck
eventually the protestor was escorted to.the wagon as burton drove off while chewing on her after 8s and ibs capsules...

realdanbreen · 05-04-2015 7:50pm

Potential-Monke wrote: »

Within the law. So, no blocking anywhere without prior agreement, no verbal abuse (chanting is grand), no throwing stuff, no blocking people in their cars, etc.

How about giving up the burger & chips for 2 hours like the hunger striker Je suis Derek did, would that be OK?

05-04-2015 8:51pm

Hoffmans wrote: »

Burton was in the car cop pulled a peaceful protestor from the crowd and both of them fell to the street followed by the ballybricken ruck
eventually the protestor was escorted to.the wagon as burton drove off while chewing on her after 8s and ibs capsules...

I take it you were a totally impartial bystander?

endacl · 06-04-2015 12:43pm

Hoffmans wrote: »

Burton was in the car cop pulled a peaceful protestor from the crowd and both of them fell to the street followed by the ballybricken ruck
eventually the protestor was escorted to.the wagon as burton drove off while chewing on her after 8s and ibs capsules...

Go on. I have to ask.

So?

barneystinson · 06-04-2015 1:46pm

Hoffmans wrote: »

Burton was in the car cop pulled a peaceful protestor from the crowd and both of them fell to the street followed by the ballybricken ruck
eventually the protestor was escorted to.the wagon as burton drove off while chewing on her after 8s and ibs capsules...

How exactly did they end up on the ground though Hoffmans?? One of them have some kind of problem with their balance?

Road-Hog · 07-04-2015 8:42pm

Hoffmans wrote: »

Burton was in the car cop pulled a peaceful protestor from the crowd and both of them fell to the street followed by the ballybricken ruck
eventually the protestor was escorted to.the wagon as burton drove off while chewing on her after 8s and ibs capsules...

I wonder how the same situation would pan out if it was the UK equivalent ie deputy prime minister (nick clegg?).....who was visiting a UK regional capital or say vice president of USA Joe bided......How would a group of 'peaceful protesters' be treated ? How close would they get to either of them. If somebody lunged towards person/car I think it might be a slightly different reaction from the security people?

ROCKMAN · 09-04-2015 5:47am

Jesus if only the Tourist board was as good at attracting visitors to the city as this thread ,:pac:

Any way seen the video and the protester and the Garda seem to stumble over each other and end up on the ground, No Cage fighting skills on display, If I was to use one word to describe it Awkward, Comes to mind.
Now in the interest of fairness ,When they go down the protester lands slightly on top ,The other Gardai who get involved seem to turn to see a fellow officer in trouble and jump in to help control the situation (which one would expect them to do)
There was no over use of violence or anything like that and the protestor didn't fight back.

endacl · 09-04-2015 10:13am

^^^

So, two awkward people v gravity, rather than 'evil bullyboy guard v peaceful harmless protestor'?

CatFromHue · 09-04-2015 7:14pm

That's the thing about some of the protesters you just can't believe anything they say as it's twisted to suit their agenda.

Hoffmans · 09-04-2015 8:13pm

ROCKMAN wrote: »

Jesus if only the Tourist board was as good at attracting visitors to the city as this thread ,:pac:

Any way seen the video and the protester and the Garda seem to stumble over
Now in the interest of fairness ,When they go down the protester lands slightly on top ,The other Gardai who get involved seem to turn to see a fellow officer in trouble and jump in to help control the situation (which one would expect them to do)
There was no over use of violence or anything like that and the protestor didn't fight back.

The protestor was least 10 feet from Burton's deals on wheels the cop actually went up to this guy and said your the prick from Facebook and grabbed his jacket they both stumbled over seeing their collegues awarkedness the rest of gardai lepped on top akin the munster ruck defendin their 22

Timberrrrrrrr · 09-04-2015 8:30pm

Hoffmans wrote: »

The protestor was least 10 feet from Burton's deals on wheels the cop actually went up to this guy and said your the prick from Facebook and grabbed his jacket they both stumbled over seeing their collegues awarkedness the rest of gardai lepped on top akin the munster ruck defendin their 22

Link to the vid?

wellboytoo · 09-04-2015 8:30pm

Hoffmans wrote: »

The protestor was least 10 feet from Burton's deals on wheels the cop actually went up to this guy and said your the prick from Facebook and grabbed his jacket they both stumbled over seeing their collegues awarkedness the rest of gardai lepped on top akin the munster ruck defendin their 22

Wolf the wolf is coming......

endacl · 10-04-2015 12:07am

Hoffmans wrote: »

The protestor was least 10 feet from Burton's deals on wheels the cop actually went up to this guy and said your the prick from Facebook and grabbed his jacket they both stumbled over seeing their collegues awarkedness the rest of gardai lepped on top akin the munster ruck defendin their 22

If he's the 'prick from facebook' I described earlier, then what harm? Seems only right?

Road-Hog · 23-04-2015 11:52am

endacl wrote: »

If he's the 'prick from facebook' I described earlier, then what harm? Seems only right?[/QUOTE

Bumping this one as I think the 'peaceful protesters' are back in action, in the Ballygunner area over the last few days, I know someone out there who got their 'nice new water meter' installed yesterday.............the 'protesters' were knocking on doors in advance of the works asking people to join them and resist the installation

endacl · 23-04-2015 3:03pm

Road-Hog wrote: »

endacl wrote: »

If he's the 'prick from facebook' I described earlier, then what harm? Seems only right?[/QUOTE

Bumping this one as I think the 'peaceful protesters' area back in action, Ballygunner area over the last few day, I know someone out there who got their 'nice new water meter' installed yesterday.............the 'protesters' were knocking on doors in advance of the works asking people to join them and resist the installation

It's getting ridiculous. I live in a very anti area. I'm sick of the bellends posting notifications of their silly little meetings through my door.

I'd be half tempted to bring the lads out tea and a plate of hobnobs when they arrive to do their days work....

the block · 24-04-2015 5:47pm

endacl wrote: »

Road-Hog wrote: »

It's getting ridiculous. I live in a very anti area. I'm sick of the bellends posting notifications of their silly little meetings through my door.

I'd be half tempted to bring the lads out tea and a plate of hobnobs when they arrive to do their days work....

the block · 24-04-2015 5:55pm

the block wrote: »

endacl wrote: »

what??bring d lads out hobnobs haha.you sound like some hobnob.better put the kettle on for the poor innocent workers.will you be charging them for the water thats put into the kettle because ye can b sure your getting charged for it

Jamie2k9 · 24-04-2015 8:36pm

endacl wrote: »

Road-Hog wrote: »

It's getting ridiculous. I live in a very anti area. I'm sick of the bellends posting notifications of their silly little meetings through my door.

I'd be half tempted to bring the lads out tea and a plate of hobnobs when they arrive to do their days work....

Don't worry, protesters are dwindling. I have to laugh at the part timers who protest at Topaz, biggest bunch of knobs. Always make it may business to driver in and give Topaz business when they are out!

endacl · 24-04-2015 9:22pm

the block wrote: »

the block wrote: »

what??bring d lads out hobnobs haha.you sound like some hobnob.better put the kettle on for the poor innocent workers.will you be charging them for the water thats put into the kettle because ye can b sure your getting charged for it

So are you.

the block · 24-04-2015 9:24pm

endacl wrote: »

the block wrote: »

So are you.

na not me tank god

barneystinson · 24-04-2015 9:30pm

the block wrote: »

endacl wrote: »

na not me tank god

What's yer beef so, if we're paying it for ya either way...!

the block · 24-04-2015 9:33pm

barneystinson wrote: »

the block wrote: »

What's yer beef so, if we're paying it for ya either way...!

I dont like been woken up 2 early. noisy shower that lot

barneystinson · 24-04-2015 9:35pm

the block wrote: »

I dont like been woken up 2 early. noisy shower that lot

It wouldn't surprise me if you're actually serious.

the block · 24-04-2015 9:41pm

barneystinson wrote: »

It wouldn't surprise me if you're actually serious.

ha I am.the noise out of em is unreal..all day non stop.vans nd diggers outside wrecking heads.half of em sitting round smoking talking ****.loada bollix

barneystinson · 24-04-2015 9:44pm

the block wrote: »

ha I am.the noise out of em is unreal..all day non stop.vans nd diggers outside wrecking heads.half of em sitting round smoking talking ****.loada bollix

How early is too early for you?
Why not go out and be sociable, maybe find out if they've got any jobs going?!

Or get off yer scratcher and head out of the house...

the block · 24-04-2015 9:52pm

barneystinson wrote: »

How early is too early for you?
Why not go out and be sociable, maybe find out if they've got any jobs going?!

Or get off yer scratcher and head out of the house...

anytime before 11 is pure madness for me.as for being sociable..most of em dont speak English so thats gonna b a challenge.

barneystinson · 24-04-2015 10:03pm

the block wrote: »

anytime before 11 is pure madness for me.as for being sociable..most of em dont speak English so thats gonna b a challenge.

Work nights do ya?

the block · 24-04-2015 10:16pm

barneystinson wrote: »

Work nights do ya?

no I work from home and they do cause serious disruption. and did ye ever notice they seem to be the most miserable bunch of people ever to work 2geter.you would think that they b happy to b working. I came outta d drive the other day and accidentally rolled over a hose that was blocking the way..i could hear the abuse from one fella and got the finger from another. ignorant pigs

Hoffmans · 25-04-2015 1:09pm

You wouldnt think their boss got 105 million wrote off with the cut of them , as construction workers go these are the bottom feeders...
Like a few here would be with moan joan

endacl · 25-04-2015 1:46pm

Hoffmans wrote: »

You wouldnt think their boss got 105 million wrote off with the cut of them , as construction workers go these are the bottom feeders...
Like a few here would be with moan joan

I feel I have to point it out at this stage...

If your going to persist in using that ridiculous nickname you might as well get it right. It's 'Moany Joany'. Not 'moan joan'.

Wanderer2010 · 25-04-2015 4:47pm

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

endacl wrote: »

Don't worry, protesters are dwindling. I have to laugh at the part timers who protest at Topaz, biggest bunch of knobs. Always make it may business to driver in and give Topaz business when they are out!

Yeah, protests are dwindling, not to worry eh Jamie2k9, lets just shut our little mouths and hand over yet more money to the government to prop up the bondholders like good little boys and girls. I mean, Irish Water only has out best interests at heart right? That delightful little company are only trying to fix the pipes for us and not to screw us over, no not at all. I mean, how shocking of people to question a charge government demands of us. Some people eh?

barneystinson · 25-04-2015 5:30pm

Hoffmans wrote: »

You wouldnt think their boss got 105 million wrote off with the cut of them , as construction workers go these are the bottom feeders...
Like a few here would be with moan joan

Who's their boss that got the 105m written off?

robtri · 25-04-2015 7:50pm

the block wrote: »

ha I am.the noise out of em is unreal..all day non stop.vans nd diggers outside wrecking heads.half of em sitting round smoking talking ****.loada bollix

like every other construction outfit ....

O Riain · 26-04-2015 9:05am

Not a huge fan of the water protestors antics but you can't argue that the things they are shouting about are true, no matter how crazy they come across..

http://www.irishexaminer.com/viewpoints/columnists/michael-clifford/water-cant-wash-away-siteserv-stench-327000.html

Its a difficult situation, don't shout too loud and no one will listen, shout too loud and people will think your crazy.

fxotoole · 26-04-2015 12:35pm

the block wrote: »

most of em dont speak English so thats gonna b a challenge.

I would point out the irony but I fear it'd be lost on you.

26-04-2015 7:28pm

When will I get to stop hearing about water charges

I'm positively getting sick of it and I highly doubt these 'peaceful protesters' were any way peaceful. I have seen so many videos of these 'peaceful protesters' acting the scumbag and then shouting peaceful protest when they get a reaction.

Wanderer78 · 26-04-2015 8:11pm

heres a mad idea, maybe its a good idea to pay for water per usage, but i guess we would need meters for that

na scarp that, bad idea

sorry lost my mind there for a minute

Potential-Monke · 28-04-2015 12:40pm

Why not let them install the meters, and then either remove them yourself or just don't pay the bill? Instead of terrifying the older people in estates who are too scared to tell the people protesting outside their house that they want the meters in. Yes, this happens. People are being bullied into the anti Irish Water brigade.

If the protestors are so intent on not paying, well then let the meters be installed and refuse to pay. Not everyone is against it.

Hoffmans · 28-04-2015 1:56pm

fxotoole wrote: »

I would point out the irony but I fear it'd be lost on you.

(It would)

Road-Hog · 28-04-2015 2:03pm

Potential-Monke wrote: »

Why not let them install the meters, and then either remove them yourself or just don't pay the bill? Instead of terrifying the older people in estates who are too scared to tell the people protesting outside their house that they want the meters in. Yes, this happens. People are being bullied into the anti Irish Water brigade.

If the protestors are so intent on not paying, well then let the meters be installed and refuse to pay. Not everyone is against it.

Also depending on the detail in the contract between Irish Water and the Meter Installing crews (Denis O'Brien), obstructing and delaying the installation will most likely result in Denis O'Brien 'creaming' more money from Irish Water by way of delay/disruption claims.........oh but I forgot Denis O'Brien actually owns Irish Water.........?

wellboytoo · 28-04-2015 2:03pm

Potential-Monke wrote: »

Why not let them install the meters, and then either remove them yourself or just don't pay the bill? Instead of terrifying the older people in estates who are too scared to tell the people protesting outside their house that they want the meters in. Yes, this happens. People are being bullied into the anti Irish Water brigade.

If the protestors are so intent on not paying, well then let the meters be installed and refuse to pay. Not everyone is against it.

Where do you think you're going with your common sense? Don't you know this is the revolution 6480 people in Ireland have been waiting for, and you all must be involved.
Next you'll be wanting a democracy?

Wanderer78 · 28-04-2015 7:58pm

just let IS in lads and be done with it. the human race probably needs a bit of culling anyway

Road-Hog · 06-05-2015 2:40pm

Wanderer78 wrote: »

just let IS in lads and be done with it. the human race probably needs a bit of culling anyway

Bumping this one............

More arrests yesterday, they (peaceful protesters) have moved to Bishopsfield on Williamstown road, I passed by there yesterday and there seemed to be a lot of gardai at the entrance to the estate, it also looks like things turned even nastier for the Irish Water contractors with some of their machinery being burned out somewhere near the Lacken Rd according to WLR news These metering contractors are in for a hard time it seems and they have only started. As I said above, I'm not aware of the details in the contract they have with Irish Water but delays to disruption by cause 'protesters' will probably end up resulting in cost over-runs and contractor being compensated for works that couldn't be completed and could result in making guys like Denis O'Brien even wealthier for doing nothing, should the peaceful protesters not concentrate on 'mass non-payment' of bills as opposed to actual meter installation???

zurbfoundation · 06-05-2015 3:19pm

saw that story about machinery burned out earlier - lucky nobody was injured

Jamie2k9 · 06-05-2015 3:49pm

zurbfoundation wrote: »

saw that story about machinery burned out earlier - lucky nobody was injured

What, that was peaceful;)

Peaceful protestors arrested

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