The "Today I did something to my bike" thread

Wonda-Boy · 26-05-2020 10:20pm

Nice machine, Looks well.

Blanchy90 · 28-05-2020 3:31pm

Increases the sensitivity of the alarm on the bike and put on an alarmed disc lock because some unscrupulous individual was looking at my bike last night

dubal2008 · 29-05-2020 6:42pm

From the picture posted above regarding fitting a new oil seal..... you may have fitted to Oil Seal the wrong way round....the open side of the seal faces the oil but by the look of it you have the dirt flat side facing this way which is i assume the oil side

H_Lime · 29-05-2020 7:42pm

dubal2008 wrote: »

From the picture posted above regarding fitting a new oil seal..... you may have fitted to Oil Seal the wrong way round....the open side of the seal faces the oil but by the look of it you have the dirt flat side facing this way which is i assume the oil side

Hey Dubal, right you are but the oil feed/direction is from inside the clutch casing:eek: It travels via a channel from the sump (oil pump) in the casing to a small gallery behind the seal. The seal mates with and seals over the od of crank end and oil is fed through it and to the head.

LollipopJimmy · 29-05-2020 8:31pm

Cleaned mine down today.

Snowfoam followed by a shampoo and fallout remover and prepped for a glaze then wax. Then a ride around the back of the airport to a work site and she's covered in flies again!

dubal2008 · 30-05-2020 10:36am

H_Lime wrote: »

Hey Dubal, right you are but the oil feed/direction is from inside the clutch casing:eek: It travels via a channel from the sump (oil pump) in the casing to a small gallery behind the seal. The seal mates with and seals over the od of crank end and oil is fed through it and to the head.

Ahh now that would explain it, we have a few customers for what are called CK seals which are a back to back oil seal, always in a gearbox use, I work for hydraseals.ie

H_Lime · 30-05-2020 11:29am

dubal2008 wrote: »

Ahh now that would explain it, we have a few customers for what are called CK seals which are a back to back oil seal, always in a gearbox use, I work for hydraseals.ie

Your a very handy dude to know so!

As she's an air/oil cooled single and these seals tend to suffer I said I'd try and upgrade to viton.
As it happens I couldn't source the seal in viton in the original size of 16 30 6, but could get her in 7mm. After test fitting there's clearence on the shaft for 7mm so went ahead with it.

In your experience are there any drawbacks or limitations to using viton where buna/nitrile based seals were used as oem? As a material to my untrained eye and hands it feels a less pliable material, is this a concern where a degree of flexibility for sealing is concerned?

dubal2008 · 30-05-2020 11:36am

The biggest difference is the working temperature range and the overall quality of the materiel used to manufacture it.Whereas an oil seal used in normal application is manufactured in an unknown Chinese Place the branded has certain quality checks and tolerances which have to be matched.
I would have thought the original fitment would have been viton material from factory.

H_Lime · 30-05-2020 11:40am

dubal2008 wrote: »

The biggest difference is the working temperature range and the overall quality of the materiel used to manufacture it.Whereas an oil seal used in normal application is manufactured in an unknown Chinese Place the branded has certain quality checks and tolerances which have to be matched.
I would have thought the original fitment would have been viton material from factory.

It may have been I'm unsure of what industry standards were required from the late eighties. For some reason I always though viton was a relatively new arrival, almost as a response to ethanol concerns?
Do you guys sell like a pack of viton o rings in standard metric sizes? Say 200 pieces with the major sizes from 5mm up to 15mm?

dubal2008 · 30-05-2020 12:31pm

We sell all sizes of o-rings in various material's from NBR, Viton,EPDM and even Silicone and if not ex stock we can get quickly from Germany,
a selection box of metric various sizes is viton would cost you approx €75+vat, I have my doubts whether this is good value for you as you would only use approx 20% of the box

CJhaughey · 30-05-2020 8:06pm

I ran into problems getting crank seals for the 315R , had to do some digging and found a 25x36x6 Suzuki RG125FUN crank seal fitted one side, the other is a strange size 38x52x10 twin lip Viton.

Blanchy90 · 30-05-2020 8:54pm

I fitted a new clutch cable to the CBR today hopefully get out for a short spin tomorrow

H_Lime · 31-05-2020 10:40pm

Cheers Dubal, yer probably right, I like the idea of having a raft of various viton o rings at my disposal. Perhaps an expensive arrangement but may look into it, be a real bonus for the garage like.

Gave her some zap and some juice and glaze my nipples and call me Rita if she didn't just spring into a lovely even quiet idle. Pick up is sweet, and I'd say 90% there. Swapped out the idle jets and leaned her off a touch and she's better again. Choke enrichment off but made up the motor is quiet and smooth and carbs looking good too.

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime · 01-06-2020 7:21pm

Fitted a speedo cable to a Honda NT650 today

Except it's not finished. It's in the back of the speedo and ran down to the wheel where it should be

Only then I noticed there's no clip to screw in to hold it in place. So I have it cable tied to stop the wire flying around

Anyone know where one would get the holder part for that end that screws into the wheel ?

Cheers

CJhaughey · 02-06-2020 8:08am

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

Fitted a speedo cable to a Honda NT650 today

Except it's not finished. It's in the back of the speedo and ran down to the wheel where it should be

Only then I noticed there's no clip to screw in to hold it in place. So I have it cable tied to stop the wire flying around

Anyone know where one would get the holder part for that end that screws into the wheel ?

Cheers

The last one I replaced was moulded on to the end of the cable.
Could you use a P clip to secure it to the hub?

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime · 02-06-2020 11:55am

CJhaughey wrote: »

The last one I replaced was moulded on to the end of the cable.
Could you use a P clip to secure it to the hub?

Unfortunately not, a p clip is the wrong way around for it

I suspect it's actually a wrong cable, will get it checked before doing anymore

H_Lime · 03-06-2020 12:40am

Gettin closer:pac:

Losing hrs getting finicky on details here n there. Fasteners, routing etc.

CJhaughey · 03-06-2020 11:57am

Is that one of the German 320mm kits?

lennymc · 03-06-2020 2:32pm

that seat doesnt look to comfy

H_Lime · 03-06-2020 3:22pm

I'm laying a fibreglass seat base and a half inch foam over it right after I chop the subframe and wrap the header. Oh and knobblies Len I dig de knobblies. I'm also growing a beard as fast as I can too.

CJ, random factoid, me and japcati grew up very close to your name sakes homeplace in Dubberlin. Yep that's the HE kit as sold by Herr Hessler cept I cheaped out by twigging the caliper used was a lhs grimeca 4 potter (used on a gilera nordwest) which I bought cheap as NOS from Bob Wright in the UK. Paired up with a 13mm master, springs and revalve that's as good as most modern tackle up front. Be interested to see does she flex without additional bracing....I'm no racer type so should be sweet.
How goes yer works?

CJhaughey · 04-06-2020 8:59am

H_Lime wrote: »

I'm laying a fibreglass seat base and a half inch foam over it right after I chop the subframe and wrap the header. Oh and knobblies Len I dig de knobblies. I'm also growing a beard as fast as I can too.

CJ, random factoid, me and japcati grew up very close to your name sakes homeplace in Dubberlin. Yep that's the HE kit as sold by Herr Hessler cept I cheaped out by twigging the caliper used was a lhs grimeca 4 potter (used on a gilera nordwest) which I bought cheap as NOS from Bob Wright in the UK. Paired up with a 13mm master, springs and revalve that's as good as most modern tackle up front. Be interested to see does she flex without additional bracing....I'm no racer type so should be sweet.
How goes yer works?

I have been co-opted into Garden works and for the sake of peace I have complied fully....for now.

I did something similar with the Dommie, but I cheaped out and got a local machinist to make the carrier, and used an EBC 320mm kit for a XR650L for the disc, Stock Brembo setup off an SLR650 so all from Honda 650 RFVC but different bikes.
Made a nice difference to the wooden Nissin's that came stock.
Brembo always were a lot sharper in feel.

I need to get a proper custom brake hose made up, just jerry rigged one off my RMX250S to fit but the hose is much too long.

H_Lime · 04-06-2020 10:01am

CJhaughey wrote: »

I have been co-opted into Garden works and for the sake of peace I have complied fully....for now.

I did something similar with the Dommie, but I cheaped out and got a local machinist to make the carrier, and used an EBC 320mm kit for a XR650L for the disc, Stock Brembo setup off an SLR650 so all from Honda 650 RFVC but different bikes.
Made a nice difference to the wooden Nissin's that came stock.
Brembo always were a lot sharper in feel.

I need to get a proper custom brake hose made up, just jerry rigged one off my RMX250S to fit but the hose is much too long.

I've attempted an upsell on the "it's the natural meadow look, dermot gavin says it's in right now" but no dice:pac:

Singular the best mod to these type older bikes is a brake update. Wooden is a good descriptor, they're there but blunted and cannot be relied upon. I've done a rolling stoppie on my 90/90/21 up to a zafira that pulled out on me in mitchelstown maxol last summer. Try that on a stock big and you would be implanted in the side of it. Showis a pic of your set up.

https://www.helperformance.com/custom-braided-brake-lines
These are the guys I use for a custom line. Being able to specify banjo angle and rubber fitting grommets means you can make routing very neat indeed but I recommend measuring your length requirements with the fork topped out and bars to rhs lock.
Here's my custom order, had it in a coupe days. Of note, you can turn the end fittings to eliminate twist or routing bulge!

enrique66_35 · 04-06-2020 11:48am

HEL lines are the shiz...totally transforms the feel of average brakes just sticking in HEL lines and new fluid.

H_Lime · 04-06-2020 12:06pm

enrique66_35 wrote: »

HEL lines are the shiz...totally transforms the feel of average brakes just sticking in HEL lines and new fluid.

The full flush and refill of fresh n bleed is the shiz lol but braided lines are the cherry on top;)

listermint · 04-06-2020 12:14pm

enrique66_35 wrote: »

HEL lines are the shiz...totally transforms the feel of average brakes just sticking in HEL lines and new fluid.

tbh, i dont notice the difference. If having to replace lines due to deterioration of old lines, then yes 100% upgrade to braided. But if people are out there looking to get some significant difference ripping out new rubber lines, then no i wouldn't bother my arse.

The difference would be negligible imo

H_Lime · 04-06-2020 12:24pm

listermint wrote: »

tbh, i dont notice the difference. If having to replace lines due to deterioration of old lines, then yes 100% upgrade to braided. But if people are out there looking to get some significant difference ripping out new rubber lines, then no i wouldn't bother my arse.

The difference would be negligible imo

Eeeeew this sounds like a wd40 as chain lube direction haha:pac::D If that's your finding from actual experience then fair dues and that's good for you.
Myself anytime I fit braided lines I'd say the majority of the improvement is felt from a complete flush of shagged old moisture laced fluid and a fresh bled refill.
Could I discern a new rubber hose fitted with fresh bled fluid versus braided line? I reckon I could yeah, initial bite tends to be better on braided as the tendency of the rubber line is to expand somewhat, whereas the ptfe inner is restrained by the tensioned metal braid which dramatically decreases that effect. YMMV as the more balanced might say hahaha;)

enrique66_35 · 04-06-2020 3:58pm

listermint wrote: »

tbh, i dont notice the difference. If having to replace lines due to deterioration of old lines, then yes 100% upgrade to braided. But if people are out there looking to get some significant difference ripping out new rubber lines, then no i wouldn't bother my arse.

The difference would be negligible imo

You're right the fresh fluid probably accounted for most of the change in feel but then the lines I replaced were 15 years old so about as effective as a bit of garden hose!

Hotblack Desiato · 04-06-2020 6:02pm

Nearly two months since I blew the fork seal on my SV1k, finally got around to ordering the bits last night :rolleyes:

The QuietMan · 04-06-2020 6:51pm

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Nearly two months since I blew the fork seal on my SV1k, finally got around to ordering the bits last night :rolleyes:

I feel your pain. Had the forks on my blade done last month after it shat itself and dumped fork oil in my yard.

The QuietMan · 08-06-2020 9:32am

Did an oil change over the weekend, bar the external condition of the filter I’d have gotten another year out of it :pac:

listermint · 08-06-2020 12:39pm

H_Lime wrote: »

Eeeeew this sounds like a wd40 as chain lube direction haha:pac::D If that's your finding from actual experience then fair dues and that's good for you.
Myself anytime I fit braided lines I'd say the majority of the improvement is felt from a complete flush of shagged old moisture laced fluid and a fresh bled refill.
Could I discern a new rubber hose fitted with fresh bled fluid versus braided line? I reckon I could yeah, initial bite tends to be better on braided as the tendency of the rubber line is to expand somewhat, whereas the ptfe inner is restrained by the tensioned metal braid which dramatically decreases that effect. YMMV as the more balanced might say hahaha;)

I'm fully versed in how they operate.

You completely missed by point and il disregard the wd40 jibe for the moment.

I've seen plenty of people expect braided lines to light their world on fire for braking. They won't. If your lines need changing then yes definitely do it. It your lines are new it's not worth it you won't notice.

blade1 · 08-06-2020 12:52pm

The QuietMan wrote: »

Did an oil change over the weekend, bar the external condition of the filter I’d have gotten another year out of it :pac:

Better to change it yearly anyway.

See that was easy wasn't it?

H_Lime · 08-06-2020 12:52pm

listermint wrote: »

I'm fully versed in how they operate.

You completely missed by point and il disregard the wd40 jibe for the moment.

I've seen plenty of people expect braided lines to light their world on fire for braking. They won't. If your lines need changing then yes definitely do it. It your lines are new it's not worth it you won't notice.

Wrong side of the bed lister?:):pac:
Sure this is the Internet, everyone's fully versed in everything!
"But if people are out there looking to get some significant difference ripping out new rubber lines, then no i wouldn't bother my arse"
My point addressed this. I reckon it could be noticed, tbh dont really give a flying one either way but always willing to listen/learn to a rational explanation of real first hand experience.

Ps when I should expect problems re the wd "jibe"? high noon? :eek::pac:

The QuietMan · 08-06-2020 8:52pm

blade1 wrote: »

Better to change it yearly anyway.

See that was easy wasn't it?

Yeah I agree. The real challenge begins later this week. Service a busa I’ve only ridden once :pac:

By the way look over in the motors chat forum, I did the wife’s car in the stages verbthe last few days.

Cars aren’t a problem

blade1 · 08-06-2020 9:10pm

The QuietMan wrote: »

Yeah I agree. The real challenge begins later this week. Service a busa I’ve only ridden once :pac:

By the way look over in the motors chat forum, I did the wife’s car in the stages verbthe last few days.

Cars aren’t a problem

:eek: :pac:

listermint · 08-06-2020 10:16pm

H_Lime wrote: »

Wrong side of the bed lister?:):pac:
Sure this is the Internet, everyone's fully versed in everything!
"But if people are out there looking to get some significant difference ripping out new rubber lines, then no i wouldn't bother my arse"
My point addressed this. I reckon it could be noticed, tbh dont really give a flying one either way but always willing to listen/learn to a rational explanation of real first hand experience.

Ps when I should expect problems re the wd "jibe"? high noon? :eek::pac:

Dawn.

H_Lime · 09-06-2020 3:59pm

listermint wrote: »

Dawn.

Handbags or slaps with wet fish? :pac:
So what you up to at yer own bike at the mo Lister?

The QuietMan · 09-06-2020 6:19pm

blade1 wrote: »

:eek: :pac:

Hey hey

The QuietMan · 09-06-2020 6:19pm

Before

After

KildareMan · 10-06-2020 11:16am

The QuietMan wrote: »

Before

After

I can hear James May shouting in the background ~" Standard "

I like it though.

The QuietMan · 10-06-2020 11:24am

KildareMan wrote: »

I can hear James May shouting in the background ~" Standard "

I like it though.

Opinion seems split on Facebook, one guy saying would I tint the windscreen of my car.

To clean up and tint the original would have cost more than the double bubble screen, so I said I’d try it as I have one already on my busa.

KildareMan · 10-06-2020 11:26am

Typical facebook warriors. Screen on a bike is generally not looked through and personally I think the double bubble suits the blade really well.

Banana Republic. · 10-06-2020 11:31am

KildareMan wrote: »

I can hear James May shouting in the background ~" Standard "

I like it though.

I think the Black with the Red really pops so good job

bladespin · 10-06-2020 12:04pm

The QuietMan wrote: »

Opinion seems split on Facebook, one guy saying would I tint the windscreen of my car.

Moronic quote of the day goes to....

The QuietMan · 10-06-2020 12:15pm

bladespin wrote: »

Moronic quote of the day goes to....

I agree, here’s the infamous comment

The QuietMan · 10-06-2020 12:15pm

Banana Republic. wrote: »

I think the Black with the Red really pops so good job

I agree, thank you.

The QuietMan · 10-06-2020 12:16pm

KildareMan wrote: »

Typical facebook warriors. Screen on a bike if generally not looked through and personally I think the double bubble suits the blade really well.

I’m happy with it, just have to test ride it

bladespin · 10-06-2020 12:42pm

The QuietMan wrote: »

I agree, thank you.

Mine was tinted from the day it left the shop :cool:

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Nabidana · 10-06-2020 1:33pm

The QuietMan wrote: »

Opinion seems split on Facebook, one guy saying would I tint the windscreen of my car.

To clean up and tint the original would have cost more than the double bubble screen, so I said I’d try it as I have one already on my busa.

Is that your personal page or is there a sort of Irish mods page on the book?

Looks good btw ðŸ‘ðŸ»

The QuietMan · 10-06-2020 2:06pm

bladespin wrote: »

Mine was tinted from the day it left the shop :cool:

You hardly bought it new did ya? I love the colour.

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