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Guns N' Roses Discussion Thread

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭LH Pathe


    Only going because I tend to sleep concerts out. arriving bleary eyed for the encore or not at all

    he better be on 'late' else I want my money back, what's the bets I'll still out-late the prick


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,247 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    I just heard the ad for the O2 gig on the radio and almost spat my tea out.

    Can't believe he has the nerve to come back this year. What annoys me even more is the fact that people are seriously going to go to this?

    I guess Axl is right, he can do anything he wants and get away with it.

    Might tag along myself with my ticket from last year. As far as I'm concerned, he still owes me a show.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,747 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    I'd love to see Guns play, but only with the original members. I've seen Slash & Duff play & they are both great performers. But GnR wasn't about knocking out songs, they were a place in time and were more about the energy they emitted. To me, the most important member of the band was Izzy Stadlin - he was able to take all the cool bits the others produced and put them together into really coherent songs...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,647 ✭✭✭✭Mental Mickey


    RVD420 wrote: »
    Good point. Metallica have one, surely GNR warrant similar?

    I was being sarcastic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,382 ✭✭✭Motley Crue


    Be interesting to see how much rehearsal they do in Ireland prior to playing here? Anyone else see that article on Saturday?

    The new band are worth a....actually, I give it up, nobody listens to me...:rolleyes:

    I look forward to seeing GNR. That is all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,873 ✭✭✭RayCon


    I wont be attending as I dont listen to Guns N Roses. Had Appetite when it first came out, then Lies ... lost both over the years and never replaced them - dont seem to have missed them either.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭darrenw5094


    Not sure if this has been posted here yet, but Axl is returning on May 17. Same venue too. Amazed that he would do that after last piece of malarky.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,919 ✭✭✭Schism


    I genuinely hope nobody turns up but the sad truth is it'll probably be a sellout.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭RonMexico


    There is already two huge threads on this OP. On in this section (scroll down) and the other in the gigs&events section.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,065 ✭✭✭✭Malice


    I wasn't bothered about going to the last one and I'm even less bothered about going to this one. Don't get me wrong, I'm a massive Guns N' Roses fan but I'm not a fan of overpriced Irish gigs and I'm not a fan of Axl + 4.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,065 ✭✭✭✭Malice


    Oh and threads merged :).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,382 ✭✭✭Motley Crue


    Happy 50th Axl

    axlbirthdayad.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 553 ✭✭✭berettaman


    Malice wrote: »
    I wasn't bothered about going to the last one and I'm even less bothered about going to this one. Don't get me wrong, I'm a massive Guns N' Roses fan but I'm not a fan of overpriced Irish gigs and I'm not a fan of Axl + 4.

    I completely agree. I was the 8th person through the gate in Slane in 1992- only because I let my three friends through first! We camped out all night. It was 4 days before my first year exams in college...I acknowledge the genius of Axl in terms of song writing and the different voices he can sing in etc. I also acknowledge that the guy has serious issues. But without Slash it is a band without Soul..To use an analogy. You meet someone at 18 and it is amazing, all of it, it is consuming and passionate and wild and a bit dangerous. It ends. 20 years pass and you meet them again and you have both let yourselves go a bit..but he/she is still mad as a bag of cats..It is just not as much fun as when you were 18... Sometimes it is better to keep the memories of what was.

    I am still a massive fan, I remember when bootleg copies of GnR/Metallica/Motley Crue gigs were practically currency in our school. (Who has the GnR song "crash Diet" on demo..?? Why was that never released??)There was a time I would have done anything to see GNR but not like this. This is not GnR....But there was a time...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭lord lucan




    IIRC this was on the Rumbo Tapes. I've a whole heap of cassettes with various demo's for AFD and UYI material. Always reckoned this tune should have been on UYI1 instead of Back off Bitch.


  • Registered Users Posts: 553 ✭✭✭berettaman


    Lord Lucan, You have made my day... Thank you for that i have not heard it in years...I would have dropped back off bitch too, and maybe a few others...but that was class, thanks :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,382 ✭✭✭Motley Crue


    berettaman wrote: »
    Lord Lucan, You have made my day... Thank you for that i have not heard it in years...I would have dropped back off bitch too, and maybe a few others...but that was class, thanks :D

    You know another band recorded that later on, the band Asphalt Ballet, they had some connection with Wes Arkeen who was a friend of Axl's and who used the song when GNR didn't - I think there's a chance that's Axl on backing vocals but I'll have to confirm it.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭RonMexico


    Happy 50th Axl

    axlbirthdayad.jpg

    *cringe* Keeping GNR alive = :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,382 ✭✭✭Motley Crue


    RonMexico wrote: »
    *cringe* Keeping GNR alive = :rolleyes:

    Here's the deal, one more bottle....I go home..... :D

    No, but in all seriousness, you can bash GNR all you like. I'm still going and I still love them and even if I'm the only one there (I'd actually much prefer it that way to be be honest - I'd get to keep all the picks Ashba throws) it'll still be a good night for me and I'll have my fun.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭RonMexico




    The rest of GNR should go onstage with this guy at the RNRHOF:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,478 ✭✭✭✭gnfnrhead


    o1s1n wrote: »
    Might tag along myself with my ticket from last year. As far as I'm concerned, he still owes me a show.
    Good luck with that :rolleyes:

    They played the show, not their fault if you were one of the people who decided to throw bottles or leg it first chance they got. They fulfilled the comittment (and very well too). It's your own problem if you left early.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,519 ✭✭✭ozzy jr


    gnfnrhead wrote: »
    It's your own problem if you left early.

    Here we go again......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,880 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    my heart will be pounding on may 17th next during welcome to the jungle or whatever song they begin with becuase knowing irish people someone will throw something on stage.

    If someone does throw something on stage Axl should just ignore it and play on like it never happened (a big FU to the people throwing the bottles).

    Hopefully we get a decent support band this time eg Motley Crue (Will never happen but you never know 2006 springs to mind lol), Poison, Alice in Chains etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,647 ✭✭✭✭Mental Mickey


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    my heart will be pounding on may 17th next during welcome to the jungle or whatever song they begin with becuase knowing irish people someone will throw something on stage.

    If someone does throw something on stage Axl should just ignore it and play on like it never happened (a big FU to the people throwing the bottles).

    Hopefully we get a decent support band this time eg Motley Crue (Will never happen but you never know 2006 springs to mind lol), Poison, Alice in Chains etc

    That ain't gonna happen(the bit about Axl ignoring it).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,382 ✭✭✭Motley Crue


    That ain't gonna happen(the bit about Axl ignoring it).

    You won't ignore it but you could find that the event is a reduced bar event (you can only get drink upstairs in standing), or that all drinks are served in paper cups...you might even find that Axl will stand a few feet away from the crowd during the whole gig and not really venture towards the front. There's also the very real possibility that you'll be waiting ages to get in as everyone will be searched for anything going in.

    Believe me, MCD doesn't want this happening again, they might be stupid but they're not stupid enough to chance fate twice - every single person will be prevented from throwing something near the stage.

    Believe me, I catch someone throwing something, they can wipe that stupid smirk off their face because I'll deal with them myself before security get to them. I will not have my gig ruined because some moron paid money to go and ruin a night's event for everyone else. Trust me, they've anticipated these problems, they have to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,647 ✭✭✭✭Mental Mickey


    You won't ignore it but you could find that the event is a reduced bar event (you can only get drink upstairs in standing), or that all drinks are served in paper cups...you might even find that Axl will stand a few feet away from the crowd during the whole gig and not really venture towards the front. There's also the very real possibility that you'll be waiting ages to get in as everyone will be searched for anything going in.

    Believe me, MCD doesn't want this happening again, they might be stupid but they're not stupid enough to chance fate twice - every single person will be prevented from throwing something near the stage.

    Believe me, I catch someone throwing something, they can wipe that stupid smirk off their face because I'll deal with them myself before security get to them. I will not have my gig ruined because some moron paid money to go and ruin a night's event for everyone else. Trust me, they've anticipated these problems, they have to.

    But MCD are stupid enough to book him again!!??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,747 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    That ain't gonna happen(the bit about Axl ignoring it).

    You won't ignore it but you could find that the event is a reduced bar event (you can only get drink upstairs in standing), or that all drinks are served in paper cups...you might even find that Axl will stand a few feet away from the crowd during the whole gig and not really venture towards the front. There's also the very real possibility that you'll be waiting ages to get in as everyone will be searched for anything going in.

    Believe me, MCD doesn't want this happening again, they might be stupid but they're not stupid enough to chance fate twice - every single person will be prevented from throwing something near the stage.

    Believe me, I catch someone throwing something, they can wipe that stupid smirk off their face because I'll deal with them myself before security get to them. I will not have my gig ruined because some moron paid money to go and ruin a night's event for everyone else. Trust me, they've anticipated these problems, they have to.
    Wow Metal Mickey, you sound very tough on the internet. I'll stay well away from you as I get Axel between the eyes with a ribena carton


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,647 ✭✭✭✭Mental Mickey


    Bluefoam wrote: »
    Wow Metal Mickey, you sound very tough on the internet. I'll stay well away from you as I get Axel between the eyes with a ribena carton

    I was quoting "Motley Crue" actually.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,382 ✭✭✭Motley Crue


    Bluefoam wrote: »
    Wow Metal Mickey, you sound very tough on the internet. I'll stay well away from you as I get Axel between the eyes with a ribena carton

    First of all, it's Axl

    Bluefoam, I doubt your stupid enough to pay for an expensive gig ticket, get yourself an overpriced drink and then waste all that money just to throw garbage at a rock musician who earns millions more a year then you do, then to find that the buses have stopped running and you need to fork out for a taxi. I doubt that you're that stupid. If you can't even spell the lead singers name then I doubt you'll have any interest in going to the gig. And the more people who stay away the better.

    As I've said before, if you think you don't want to go because you're going to be pissed off when he comes on late, then don't bother going, don't buy a ticket and don't come to the concert. Unless your prepared to spend the whole night, until 6am in the O2 without a complaint, do not bother coming to the gig in May...you will only be disappointed...and after all, it's not the original line up anyway. So, please, for your enjoyment and mine, stay away


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,747 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    I think you are missing my point. I am looking forward to this, the expense is worth the entertainment value I'm gonna get from it. Once Axcel has the crowd all riled up, we can encourage them down to Leinster house to release all that pent up anger. Its gonna be the event of the year.

    I think getting Axles tribute band to Dublin again was a genius idea. ROCK ON!

    * I wish boards had the little emoti-icon thing doing a rocker salute, that would have made this post even more awesome!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,159 ✭✭✭rednik




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,880 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    will the gnr induction be on tv (well in the case of us here in ireland be avalible to download.

    I remember the Metallica induction in 2009 was on tv in the states


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,107 ✭✭✭thegreengoblin


    I think if Axl, Slash, Izzy, Duff and Steven got together on the stage for an acceptance speech then that will be as good as we're going to get. A performance would be something else but just seeing them together again would make my day.

    But assuming Matt, Dizzy and Gilby are all there, and Axl is hardly going to show up without his current band....are we going to see 14 people up on stage at the same time?!! :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,647 ✭✭✭✭Mental Mickey


    I think if Axl, Slash, Izzy, Duff and Steven got together on the stage for an acceptance speech then that will be as good as we're going to get. A performance would be something else but just seeing them together again would make my day.

    But assuming Matt, Dizzy and Gilby are all there, and Axl is hardly going to show up without his current band....are we going to see 14 people up on stage at the same time?!! :pac:

    I wouldn't think so? I can see this being car crash tv. My thinking is(I'm probably wrong?), that only the current band will appear on stage, and I would think that the other members will have pre-recorded acceptance speeches made, which will be played on video??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,647 ✭✭✭✭Mental Mickey


    Bluefoam wrote: »
    I think you are missing my point. I am looking forward to this, the expense is worth the entertainment value I'm gonna get from it. Once Axcel has the crowd all riled up, we can encourage them down to Leinster house to release all that pent up anger. Its gonna be the event of the year.

    I think getting Axles tribute band to Dublin again was a genius idea. ROCK ON!

    * I wish boards had the little emoti-icon thing doing a rocker salute, that would have made this post even more awesome!

    Stop spamming


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,873 ✭✭✭RayCon


    rednik wrote: »
    RARHOF

    *Checks to see if Rush have been inducted yet - No - continues to ignore*
    :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,478 ✭✭✭✭gnfnrhead


    I wouldn't think so? I can see this being car crash tv. My thinking is(I'm probably wrong?), that only the current band will appear on stage, and I would think that the other members will have pre-recorded acceptance speeches made, which will be played on video??
    I'd say the opposite. I doubt the current guys want to be up there taking someone else's credit. Especially when they were/are probably big fans of them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭RonMexico


    gnfnrhead wrote: »
    I'd say the opposite. I doubt the current guys want to be up there taking someone else's credit. Especially when they were/are probably big fans of them.

    I recall a number of them admitting that they were not fans of the original band...I kid you not...I think the only one that was a fan of the old band is DJ Ashba, and he has only toured with this line-up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,382 ✭✭✭Motley Crue


    RonMexico wrote: »
    I recall a number of them admitting that they were not fans of the original band...I kid you not...I think the only one that was a fan of the old band is DJ Ashba, and he has only toured with this line-up.

    I can vouch for that. Chris Pittman wasn't sure who Gilby Clarke was, for example, before I told him.

    Some of the newer band members, like Pittman, are into more electronic and dance type music and had no real interest in the Punk/Glam/Rock routes of Guns N' Roses to start with. Others just didn't have an interest in music when they were younger and never listened to GNR as they got older.

    It's so nice to see Axl touring the US at the moment and it's all going without a problem. I think what people are most afraid of is the concert coming and going without a hitch, gives them nothing to moan about, and right now GNR have been on their best behavior.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,159 ✭✭✭rednik


    RayCon wrote: »
    *Checks to see if Rush have been inducted yet - No - continues to ignore*
    :pac:

    Run DMC deserved their place.:p:p. Some on the list in front of Rush just makes the mind boggle.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭RonMexico




    This has been confirmed by Brain as being official. It is a remix that he worked on, apparently he remixed all of Chinese Democracy.

    All I have to say is this is absolutely appalling, it sounds like it was put together by a 13 year old fan of Mortal Kombat that just discovered how to use audacity.

    There is talk of these tracks being released at some point by GNR, either as a stand alone album or as a re-released expanded Chinese Democracy.

    If Axl goes ahead with that I'll say he must be on the wrong meds or something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,647 ✭✭✭✭Mental Mickey


    RonMexico wrote: »


    This has been confirmed by Brain as being official. It is a remix that he worked on, apparently he remixed all of Chinese Democracy.

    All I have to say is this is absolutely appalling, it sounds like it was put together by a 13 year old fan of Mortal Kombat that just discovered how to use audacity.

    There is talk of these tracks being released at some point by GNR, either as a stand alone album or as a re-released expanded Chinese Democracy. If Axl goes ahead with that I'll say he must be on the wrong meds or something.

    F**k no. To quote one Mr James Hetfield: "Oh please God, help me"!:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,382 ✭✭✭Motley Crue


    RonMexico wrote: »

    All I have to say is this is absolutely appalling, it sounds like it was put together by a 13 year old fan of Mortal Kombat that just discovered how to use audacity..

    You know what, **** ya all, I like it ;)

    But of course you wouldn't expect anything less from me :D

    That comment made me laugh though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭Hyperbullet


    It's so nice to see Axl touring the US at the moment and it's all going without a problem. I think what people are most afraid of is the concert coming and going without a hitch, gives them nothing to moan about, and right now GNR have been on their best behavior.

    If the band did that every night people would respect them a lot more. And while it's nice that they're showing up and putting on a good show for their fans, I, along with thousands of others,wonder how long this is going to last before it descends into chaos again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭RonMexico


    Axl goes back to Philly, apologises for the no-show a few years ago and then plays a blinder. Maybe he is human after all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,478 ✭✭✭✭gnfnrhead


    Just today realised Dublin is the start of the Euro leg. We're usually sandwiched in between England and Scotland or two England dates. Will be nice to get a fully fresh band as they have about six weeks of no dates before hand. Might even get lucky and see a change to the set list or even a new song (not necessarily brand new, but new to live shows) since it's the start of the new leg. There has been a decent amount of talk (nothing official) about a new album so if the tour goes well I reckon we could start hearing news by the end of the year. Don’t think their has been any official word on a follow up album yet.

    Right now, I’m just hoping Axl doesn’t hold any ill feelings over the last time and treats it like every other show.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,943 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    I'd say Guns will be here early and will play at The O2 the night before to a closed house, a full rehearsal for the tour.

    Also didn't i read somewhere that they were going to do a bit of recording while here?


  • Registered Users Posts: 168 ✭✭finhex


    gnfnrhead wrote: »
    Just today realised Dublin is the start of the Euro leg.
    I heard that they have few Russia gigs before Dublin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,382 ✭✭✭Motley Crue


    scudzilla wrote: »
    Also didn't i read somewhere that they were going to do a bit of recording while here?

    I've been led to believe they're doing a practice the night before, don't think it's the 02 though, believe it's a studio elsewhere....I'm currently begging to attend but nobody is biting....

    I know that Axl will fly into Dublin at least three or four days before the gig, from what I'm being told, to make sure he can completely adjust from jet lag too...but plans change on such an infrequent basis with the band that this could be all bull**** by the time we reach that six week break.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,647 ✭✭✭✭Mental Mickey


    RonMexico wrote: »
    Axl goes back to Philly, apologises for the no-show a few years ago and then plays a blinder. Maybe he is human after all.


    Where's the apology? :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭RonMexico




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