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When did Gemma O Doherty go batshyt crazy?

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  • #102
    WinnyThePoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    paleoperson wrote: »
    He's a mighty fine youtuber, possibly the biggest serious youtuber in Ireland. Here's a mostly random example of his videos:



    His commentary is often unsurpassed. Great in both presentation and the points he raises, funny as well.

    Agreed he really speaks a lot of sense along with Gemma, John Waters and I advice you check another excellent account called the Grand Torino. Much better than any mainstream media dogma.
    Not sure if parody.


  • #103
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,104 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    donaghs wrote: »
    Can't say I agree with all her positions but to say the she (or most people) are "anti-immigration" is a misnomer.
    She appears to be against "open borders".

    Rather than allowing immigration, but having a agreed system of who is allowed in, and having checks in place. We have that to some extent. A fairly reasonable position?

    The open borders things has gotten a lot more traction due to all the "refugee crisis" stories in recent years.

    Wtaf
    She is always ranting against immigration. She's a pure racist.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #104
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,104 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »
    How is she making money?

    Youtube ads for high views

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #105
    Yer Da sells Avon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,737 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    She is a hate figure for the PC Left, don't know that much about her but anyone who kitty Holland is at war with, can't be all that bad

    She spotted a gap in the market and people like you are falling for it, hook, line and sinker. She was batshit when she claimed to be on the left, and she's still batshit now that she's cosying up to the far-right.


  • #106
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,104 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    marieholmfan wrote: »
    Who the f uck is Dave Cullen

    An extreme far right racist who makes a living from youtube

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #107
    Gimme A Pound
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    An extreme far right racist
    No he isn't anywhere near that. He's a conservative/centrist. Not everyone who doesn't agree with everything ludicrously to the left is an extreme far right racist Joey.

    There is a vast space in between.


  • #108
    Yer Da sells Avon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,737 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    Joey Big Headphones wrote: »
    He's a conservative/centrist.

    A centrist? Seriously?


  • #109
    Ipso
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    What opinions make him centrist and what makes him far right?


  • #110
    King of Kings
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,695 ✭✭✭King of Kings


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    An extreme far right racist who makes a living from youtube

    You think everybody is racist or displaying some form of bigotry.


  • #111
    Richard Hillman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    She highlights a lot of issues that nobody else will. I think that's important.


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  • #112
    Ipso
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    Richard Hillman wrote: »
    She highlights a lot of issues that nobody else will. I think that's important.

    Yes, the Mary Boyle case and Niall Molloy cases need more attention. But when you start mixing the very serious and tinfoil everything gets tainted with tinfoil.


  • #113
    Jamie2k9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,756 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    She is a little crazy but does raise important issues.

    Mainstream media are completely ignoring the growing crime problem in W and N Dublin by imports, no reporting on 2040 (non paid of course!), Migration Pact, Refugees and shutting down all discussion/concerns by people. Guards no longer give descriptions of those non Irish who commit serious crimes in media appeals. Remember a certain high profile case in D4 before Christmas. The Journal first reported on taxi robberies in W Dublin but in future articles and edited previous ones which described the gang as black africans. The facts of the cases have not changed just blatant censorship portraying non nationals are 100% hard working people....

    Then you have the likes of Leo trying to shut down comments on social media because they don't fit with his views.

    Instead you are just branded far right.

    Leo and co are getting worried with the surging shift on social media. The UK tried to shut down immigration discussion which fueled a massive part of Brexit. It will happen here, rural communities don't want hundreds of refugees, people don't want criminals coming here and Europe accepting migrants from Asia/Africa and even providing a taxi service for them to get here.


  • #114
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,504 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    If you were feeling charitable, you could say that the fairly sudden death of her husband, coming soon after she was fired from The Irish Independent, (he resigned from the paper also ,in support of her) probably has taken a toll on her psychologically.

    If I'd married her, I'd have faked my own death.

    Scrap the cap!



  • #115
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,504 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    The UK tried to shut down immigration discussion

    They did in their bollocks, they've been talking about little else for years.

    Scrap the cap!



  • #116
    Gimme A Pound
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »
    A centrist? Seriously?
    He's going to attract the more extreme elements of the right, yes, and he does use that stupid term sjw a lot, but his points aren't unreasonable. Same with other folk like him - the biggest problem with them is certain fans of theirs.


  • #117
    Laneyh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 757 ✭✭✭Laneyh


    Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »
    I'd say she would make more money working for more mainstream media. That said she is, in fact, nuts.

    She would, but they're not hiring her so she needs to make her own luck.
    She's a bit too out there even for the tabloids
    She also seems to be quick to threaten lawsuits so perhaps that could be a revenue stream


  • #118
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    paleoperson wrote: »
    I like her a lot. Seems to me like one of the few sane people left along with the likes of Dave Cullen, John Waters and people like that.

    The intellectual giants of Ireland.
    paleoperson wrote: »
    He's a mighty fine youtuber, possibly the biggest serious youtuber in Ireland. Here's a mostly random example of his videos:



    His commentary is often unsurpassed. Great in both presentation and the points he raises, funny as well.

    Is this where you would up after you watched the Joe Rogan Bigfoot episode?

    Honestly, I can't tell if you are serious or not but Dave Cullen is not some intellectual heavyweight. He's just some guy on youtube who watched a bunch of Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro videos and repacked their grift into something he could sell to Irish incels.

    And John Waters? I get how simpler people can be impressed with big words and pseudo-intellectual waffle but when you understand English words and sentences at a secondary school level, he's less impressive.


  • #119
    circadian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,037 ✭✭✭circadian


    This thread highlights a great who's who to avoid.


  • #120
    Birneybau
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    Stephen15 wrote: »
    Agreed he really speaks a lot of sense along with Gemma, John Waters and I advice you check another excellent account called the Grand Torino. Much better than any mainstream media dogma.

    Grand Torino pushes the QAnon conspiracy. We are truly living in the age of the stupid. Fcuking Idiocracy.


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  • #121
    Il Fascista
    Closed Accounts Posts: 199 ✭✭Il Fascista


    mcmoustache wrote: »

    And John Waters? I get how simpler people can be impressed with big words and pseudo-intellectual waffle but when you understand English words and sentences at a secondary school level, he's less impressive.


    Well aren't the simple minded lucky to have such enlightened souls as yourself around to tell us how wrong we all are? What would we do without your unbridled condescension? That fact that you make such a post without seeing how much of a pretentious ass it makes you look is telling.


  • #122
    limnam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭limnam


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    Agreed he really speaks a lot of sense along with Gemma, John Waters and I advice you check another excellent account called the Grand Torino. Much better than any mainstream media dogma.


    The problem with most of them is it causes people to walk around saying "dogma" noting would drive you to want to punch someone in the face more .


  • #123
    backspin.
    Registered Users Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭backspin.


    mcmoustache wrote: »
    Is this where you would up after you watched the Joe Rogan Bigfoot episode?

    Honestly, I can't tell if you are serious or not but Dave Cullen is not some intellectual heavyweight. He's just some guy on youtube who watched a bunch of Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro videos and repacked their grift into something he could sell to Irish incels.
    .

    Cullen has been on YouTube long before either Peterson or Shapiro blew up. Peterson was unknown before autumn 2016.


  • #124
    SilverKrest
    Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭SilverKrest


    There's nothing bat**** crazy about her. I admire her talks where she exposes the corrupt elite in media/government/police. The masses are happy to have the wool pulled over their eyes time and time again. They believe all reports in government backed media to be true..


  • #125
    SoundsRight
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 408 ✭✭SoundsRight


    It's hard to believe anything in the media these days. Not sure what constitutes crazy.


  • #126
    Gimme A Pound
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    SilverKrest wrote: »
    There's nothing bat**** crazy about her. I admire her talks where she exposes the corrupt elite in media/government/police. The masses are happy to have the wool pulled over their eyes time and time again. They believe all reports in government backed media to be true..
    It's just as bad to believe everything she says is true also though.

    Yes an alternative voice is sorely needed. She is not it.


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  • #127
    backspin.
    Registered Users Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭backspin.


    SilverKrest wrote: »
    There's nothing bat**** crazy about her. I admire her talks where she exposes the corrupt elite in media/government/police. The masses are happy to have the wool pulled over their eyes time and time again. They believe all reports in government backed media to be true..

    She's as believable as the MSM. I try and listen to a bit of everything these days and try and decipher something resembling reality from it all.


  • #128
    PhoneMain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 542 ✭✭✭PhoneMain


    SilverKrest wrote: »
    There's nothing bat**** crazy about her. I admire her talks where she exposes the corrupt elite in media/government/police. The masses are happy to have the wool pulled over their eyes time and time again. They believe all reports in government backed media to be true..


    I've been following her out of morbid curriosity. While there may be some substance in some of what she has to say, not everything is a globalist conspiracy. She went mad there antivax for a while, spouting as if she knew more than an Infectious Disease Consultant in SJH. I know who'd I'd be listening to in this regard.

    She also seems to block people immediately if they dare question her and accuse those who disagree with her of being sheeple. She also likes going through people accounts in order to attack them, rather than the point they're making.

    Being honest, I feel somewhat sorry for her. She seems to have suffered a lot of personal hurt in a short space of time and maybe that affected her (not going to state explicitely for fear of being sued!)


  • #129
    Ipso
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    Il Fascista wrote: »
    Well aren't the simple minded lucky to have such enlightened souls as yourself around to tell us how wrong we all are? What would we do without your unbridled condescension? That fact that you make such a post without seeing how much of a pretentious ass it makes you look is telling.

    John Waters is a personification of our fantasies, of our sense of what we are becoming, of how we might unfold ourselves. He is ...perhaps the most spectacular light on the skyline, a meteorite of desire plummeting through the Irish zeitgeist."


  • #130
    v638sg7k1a92bx
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,913 ✭✭✭v638sg7k1a92bx


    Mr. Incognito wrote: »
    I dont have twitter

    Its a platform for vacous idiots.

    This


  • #131
    v638sg7k1a92bx
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    Ipso wrote: »
    John Waters is a personification of our fantasies, of our sense of what we are becoming, of how we might unfold ourselves. He is ...perhaps the most spectacular light on the skyline, a meteorite of desire plummeting through the Irish zeitgeist."

    It gives an insight into how Irish mindset, particularly under the age of 30, has changed so rapidly in recent years. Both John Waters and Gemma O'Doherty were both considered serious journalists at the two largest publications in this country. Now they are cast aside from their respective newspapers because they don't hold the right opinions. Says more about us than them.


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  • #132
    pumpkin4life
    Registered Users Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭pumpkin4life


    Drew Nervous Roaster wrote: »
    It gives an insight into how Irish mindset, particularly under the age of 30, has changed so rapidly in recent years. Both John Waters and Gemma O'Doherty were both considered serious journalists at the two largest publications in this country. Now they are cast aside from their respective newspapers because they don't hold the right opinions. Says more about us than them.

    Semi related: John Waters released a book a couple of months ago called Give Us Back The Bad Roads. I recommend it. It's a bit messy and self indulgent, but the Irish Times and media exposure stuff is absolutely astonishing.

    People like Fintan O Toole and Una Mullally are liars and intellectual charlatans who have no interest in journalism and only in smearing others that they see as threats. They literally smeared, trolled and lied about Waters.

    Waters has his flaws, but he comes across as a genuine truth seeker.


  • #133
    v638sg7k1a92bx
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    pumpkin4life wrote: »
    Semi related: John Waters released a book a couple of months ago called Give Us Back The Bad Roads. I recommend it. It's a bit messy and self indulgent, but the Irish Times and media exposure stuff is absolutely astonishing.

    People like Fintan O Toole and Una Mullally are liars; intellectual charlatans who have no interest in journalism and only in smearing others that they see as threats. They literally smeared, trolled and lied about Waters.

    Waters has his flaws, but he comes across as a genuine truth seeker.

    Astonishing good or astonishing bad?


  • #134
    CatFromHue
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    pumpkin4life wrote: »
    Semi related: John Waters released a book a couple of months ago called Give Us Back The Bad Roads. I recommend it. It's a bit messy and self indulgent, but the Irish Times and media exposure stuff is absolutely astonishing.

    People like Fintan O Toole and Una Mullally are liars; intellectual charlatans who have no interest in journalism and only in smearing others that they see as threats. They literally smeared, trolled and lied about Waters.

    Waters has his flaws, but he comes across as a genuine truth seeker.

    Have to say I just presumed it was a book giving out about migrants etc. I didn't know it was about his life as a journalist.

    Might give it a look so.


  • #135
    fxotoole
    Registered Users Posts: 1,661 ✭✭✭fxotoole


    OP wrote:
    When did Gemma O Doherty go batshyt crazy?

    Who?????


  • #136
    Birneybau
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,357 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    fxotoole wrote: »
    Who?????

    Well friend, you've come to the right place...


  • #137
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,104 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    PhoneMain wrote: »
    I've been following her out of morbid curriosity. While there may be some substance in some of what she has to say, not everything is a globalist conspiracy. She went mad there antivax for a while, spouting as if she knew more than an Infectious Disease Consultant in SJH. I know who'd I'd be listening to in this regard.

    She also seems to block people immediately if they dare question her and accuse those who disagree with her of being sheeple. She also likes going through people accounts in order to attack them, rather than the point they're making.

    Being honest, I feel somewhat sorry for her. She seems to have suffered a lot of personal hurt in a short space of time and maybe that affected her (not going to state explicitely for fear of being sued!)
    Her latest craze is that everyone is a Soros shill.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #138
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    lbc2019 wrote: »
    Some of her posts on twitter lately seem to be off the charts.


    Lately?


  • #139
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    Il Fascista wrote: »
    Well aren't the simple minded lucky to have such enlightened souls as yourself around to tell us how wrong we all are? What would we do without your unbridled condescension? That fact that you make such a post without seeing how much of a pretentious ass it makes you look is telling.


    I'm not telling you how wrong you are; I've highlighted the fact that some youtubers cater to, let's say, a simpler audience. There's nothing wrong with that.



    You also don't need my condescension when you have people like Dave Cullen making you feel smart. He knows his audience and making them feel smart is his whole thing. It's the same thing with George Hooke and the likes. It lets people who don't understand experts to hear a person in a position of authority to validate their opinions.


    As for sounding pretentious, sure, I'll accept that. A person arguing with a flat-earther would come across in that way too.


  • #140
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    donaghs wrote: »
    I'll have to bow to your superior knowledge on this. I just can't stomach more than a few lines of twitter.




    It's a very annoying platform for sure


  • #141
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    backspin. wrote: »
    Cullen has been on YouTube long before either Peterson or Shapiro blew up. Peterson was unknown before autumn 2016.


    He was doing mostly tech stuff before the rise of the alt-right and saw a niche. If you were following him prior to 2016, you'd know this.


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  • #142
    Stephen15
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    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    Her latest craze is that everyone is a Soros shill.

    He's a genuinely sinister individual. He's financing a left wing agenda and trying to interfere in the internal runnings of countries. He was also funding NGOs rescuing migrants in the Med which poses a serious threat to Europe. Italy has rightly put a stop to this behaviour.


  • #143
    Odhinn
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    Sir Oxman wrote: »
    Lately?




    Relatively recently. It used be issues like Fr Niall Molloy and mary boyle. Next thing is its john waters, "cultural marxism" and conspiracy cack.


  • #144
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    Odhinn wrote: »
    Relatively recently. It used be issues like Fr Niall Molloy and mary boyle. Next thing is its john waters, "cultural marxism" and conspiracy cack.


    Oh, I hate seeing those two words together. For a start, it's nonsense, but it's not new. It's an old concept going back to the 1920's in Germany.Only, back then it was called Cultural Bolshevism.

    Cultural Bolshevism (German: Kulturbolschewismus), sometimes referred to specifically as "art Bolshevism" or "music Bolshevism",[1] was a term widely used by critics in Nazi Germany to denounce modernist movements in the arts, particularly when seeking to discredit more nihilistic forms of expression. This first became an issue during the 1920s in Weimar Germany. German artists such as Max Ernst and Max Beckmann were denounced by Adolf Hitler, the Nazi Party and other right-wing nationalists as "cultural Bolsheviks".


  • #145
    debok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 814 ✭✭✭debok


    Her YouTube channel always has a poster of long missing child Mary Boyle displayed on the wall behind her.
    When a relative of the child repeatedly requested it be taken down, she ignored his request.
    He complained to YouTube, who shut her channel down for a day or so.
    Now she has reloaded the videos with the child's face blurred in some ( but not all)
    In her currant videos she has a sheet of A4 over the photo of the child's face, with the word "censored " written on it in marker, but the rest of the poster still displayed.
    It wouldn't kill her to just have taken it down when asked, now it makes her look paranoid and petty.[/quote]

    In fairness it depends on who asked her to take it down.
    I'm sure certain relatives would like the poster of Mary Boyle taken down and the whole thing forgotten. While other relatives want a conclusion


  • #146
    An Ciarraioch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,806 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch


    The irony being that her tweet ended up generating far more support for the Soc Dems candidate than any amount of posters or leaflets!


  • #147
    pumpkin4life
    Registered Users Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭pumpkin4life


    CatFromHue wrote: »
    Have to say I just presumed it was a book giving out about migrants etc. I didn't know it was about his life as a journalist.

    Might give it a look so.

    It's one third autobiography, one third why Ireland has declined and will continue to decline in his opinion, one third why the Irish Times and RTE are so corrupt in his experience.

    For the Irish Times/Media stuff, he cites articles, emails he sent and received and phone calls that were recorded. Una Mullally, The Irish Times, Fintan O Toole, Niamh Horan and other journalists in the Irish Media/RTE have lied about him and smeared him and have a history of lying throughout their journalism career. And he has proof backing all of this up, it's not just "old man yells at cloud" stuff.

    The rest of the book is a bit meh, but the journalism exposure stuff is incredible; amazing more people are not talking about it.


  • #148
    SoundsRight
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 408 ✭✭SoundsRight


    You'd wonder why relatives of Mary Boyle wouldn't want a journalist campaigning to bring her killer to justice.


  • #149
    Stephen15
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    Look at Mark Malone for example. He works for a Soros funded NGO that receives taxpayer funding while calling anyone he disagrees with racist. People need to wake and call for our politicians to stop funding NGOs who are strongly left wing bias and support mass immigration and the destruction of free western society.

    Malone recently compared the Grand Torino to Anders Breivik for expressing opinions which he disagrees. I normally wouldn't mind these keyboard warriors but it's an absolute disgrace that they are getting taxpayer funding to spew their bile. Comparing Anders Brevik a genuine far right terrorist to someone who expresses a different opinion to you is like comparing a left wing activist to the red brigade.


  • #150
    Birneybau
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,357 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    He's a genuinely sinister individual. He's financing a left wing agenda and trying to interfere in the internal runnings of countries. He was also funding NGOs rescuing migrants in the Med which poses a serious threat to Europe. Italy has rightly put a stop to this behaviour.

    What a bastard...:rolleyes:


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  • #151
    Gimme A Pound
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    pumpkin4life wrote: »
    People like Fintan O Toole and Una Mullally are liars
    As is the bauld Gemma though.

    Waters is definitely more sincere, but he likes to stir sh1t too.


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