Nissan Leaf

jasonb · 29-03-2019 12:01pm

Before I received my Charge Card I used to just ring the Number on display on the chargers and they'd turn the charge on for me. They nearly always asked for my Reg Number, some asked for my name and some didn't. I think I had applied for a card at that stage, but I don't know if that makes a difference or not. I never had any issues at all just ringing them and asking them to turn on/turn off the charge.

Mickeroo · 29-03-2019 12:18pm

If you don't want to ring them there's an app called ZE Pass which will let you activate the chargers with your phone. You need to add a credit card but it won't charge you. It's meant to be for Renault customers but anyone can use it.

Plugsurfing app might work too but I've not actually tried it.

Gumbo · 29-03-2019 12:22pm

Pygmie wrote: »

I'm currently looking at a used Nissan Leaf that's for sale 150km from where I live. As this would be my first EV, how would I go about charging the car when bringing it back home? I have to give evidence of ownership when registering for charge point access - but I won't have that before I buy it. Has anyone had this problem that could give advice?

When I sold my Leaf, I gave the new owner one of my eCar cards so he could get home, and then he posted it back to me.

You can also ring the 24/7 number - 01-2583799 and they will start/stop the charge.

You can also request the cards before buying the car, I done this.

Pygmie · 29-03-2019 12:33pm

Great! Thanks all!

unkel · 29-03-2019 12:52pm

I had my night rate meter installed, my eCars card in my pocket and my EV charger installed (all three free of charge) way before I actually got my car

ELM327 · 29-03-2019 1:04pm

I had the same except the charger took longer for me

Dakota Dan · 29-03-2019 1:11pm

ELM327 wrote: »

I had the same except the charger took longer for me

How long does it take to charge the leaf 24kwh?

KCross · 29-03-2019 1:19pm

Dakota Dan wrote: »

How long does it take to charge the leaf 24kwh?

Depends.

How low is the battery?
What charge point do you have?
Does the Leaf have the 3.3 or 6.6 charger option.

It could be anything from 2-3hrs to 12hrs.

unkel · 29-03-2019 1:22pm

KCross wrote: »

It could be anything from 2-3hrs to 12hrs.

Or just 20-30 minutes for a decent top up on a fast charger

Dakota Dan · 29-03-2019 1:44pm

KCross wrote: »

Depends.

How low is the battery?
What charge point do you have?
Does the Leaf have the 3.3 or 6.6 charger option.

It could be anything from 2-3hrs to 12hrs.

Don’t have a leaf as I am checking them out if it was a 6.6 with a low battery in a standard street charger?

Dakota Dan · 29-03-2019 1:45pm

unkel wrote: »

Or just 20-30 minutes for a decent top up on a fast charger

If you could find one, last time I checked there were 800 public chargers in the country and only 80 fast chargers.

KCross · 29-03-2019 2:34pm

Dakota Dan wrote: »

Don’t have a leaf as I am checking them out if it was a 6.6 with a low battery in a standard street charger?

lets say 15% to 100% as you're not going to be arriving with 0%!

Charging at 6.6kW would take that charge session about 3hrs.

Soarer · 29-03-2019 2:37pm

Dakota Dan wrote: »

Don’t have a leaf as I am checking them out if it was a 6.6 with a low battery in a standard street charger?

It's basic maths.

6.6 kW charger will put approx. 6 kW/h into the battery per hour, given roughly 10% for losses.
So from completely empty to completely full on a 24 kWh battery, you're looking at around 4 hours.

Obviously double that if you've the standard 3.3 kW charger.

And add extra for the 30 kWh battery.

McGiver · 30-03-2019 6:07pm

fael wrote:

It was very hard to find a tyre with A rating for both fuel efficiency and grip in the wet, so was happy to find these. Only had them a few weeks, but find the grip very good and they are nice and quiet. I just bought the leaf and the previous owner had 3 different Chinese brands between the 4 tyres. Could only improve.

What energy efficiency gain can I expect with L24? Currently have four odd tyres and they are C rating at best (probably worse, I don't know the rating).

KCross · 30-03-2019 7:58pm

McGiver wrote: »

What energy efficiency gain can I expect with L24? Currently have four odd tyres and they are C rating at best (probably worse, I don't know the rating).

Unless they are complete dirt, I'd say 5% at most.

fael · 31-03-2019 1:40pm

McGiver wrote: »

What energy efficiency gain can I expect with L24? Currently have four odd tyres and they are C rating at best (probably worse, I don't know the rating).

About 3.5%.

Sorry I just spent 20 minutes with a whole essay here, but lost the whole message as there was a URL included which apparently I'm not allowed to do. Wouldn't let me go back to edit the message.

Check out http s://bit .ly/2VP7Wpe (delete the spaces) for the EU website about tyre labels which also includes a calculator to calculate savings for different tyre ratings.
If you consider changing tyres to improve range also make sure you regularly check tyre pressures, could make a bigger difference than changing tyres.

Difference between G and A is 9% by the way.

NIMAN · 31-03-2019 9:24pm

Just a reminder for EV owners who charge on the cheap overnight rate, dont forget about the time change.

McGiver · 01-04-2019 11:37am

fael wrote: »

About 3.5%.

Sorry I just spent 20 minutes with a whole essay here, but lost the whole message as there was a URL included which apparently I'm not allowed to do. Wouldn't let me go back to edit the message.

Check out http s://bit .ly/2VP7Wpe (delete the spaces) for the EU website about tyre labels which also includes a calculator to calculate savings for different tyre ratings.
If you consider changing tyres to improve range also make sure you regularly check tyre pressures, could make a bigger difference than changing tyres.

Difference between G and A is 9% by the way.

Cheers for that, but I suppose the calculator is for ICE? Do you think it can be transposed to BEV as is? Not sure, I'm not an engineer, but the engines/drive trains are different and also it depends on the weight of the car for sure.

fael · 01-04-2019 1:02pm

McGiver wrote: »

Cheers for that, but I suppose the calculator is for ICE? Do you think it can be transposed to BEV as is? Not sure, I'm not an engineer, but the engines/drive trains are different and also it depends on the weight of the car for sure.

It mainly needs to know the fuel for the purpose of cost calculation. As it will give you the original mpg figure and a new one you can deduce what the percentage change is, as the tyre is the only variable in that calculation the others cancel out.

It's also wise to look at the big picture, if the change is 2%, 2.5748% or 3%, it's all the same really. I don't think you would notice the difference between those 3 values in real life.
Hence I mentioned the need to keep tyre pressures correct, that is likely to be a bigger factor. But if you are due a tyre change anyway, you might as well go for an A/A tyre, as they are not too expensive.

Question: I have a L24 '13 and in the 'My Leaf' app nor the Nissan EV app do I get any daily/monthly statistics, is that only for the newer models? I can only use the charging and climate control features.

jasonb · 01-04-2019 1:29pm

fael wrote: »

Question: I have a L24 '13 and in the 'My Leaf' app nor the Nissan EV app do I get any daily/monthly statistics, is that only for the newer models? I can only use the charging and climate control features.

I have a 151 L24 and I went into the Nissan EV App and clicked on the 'Bar Chart' Icon at the bottom of the screen. It was blank by default, but if I clicked on a section (I tried 'Yearly Data'), it then updated and gave me statistics for 2019, so that at least is working for me.

McGiver · 01-04-2019 1:38pm

fael wrote: »

It's also wise to look at the big picture, if the change is 2%, 2.5748% or 3%, it's all the same really. I don't think you would notice the difference between those 3 values in real life.
Hence I mentioned the need to keep tyre pressures correct, that is likely to be a bigger factor. But if you are due a tyre change anyway, you might as well go for an A/A tyre, as they are not too expensive.

Right. This was my thinking as well, use A rating because I need to change them anyway.

fael wrote: »

Question: I have a L24 '13 and in the 'My Leaf' app nor the Nissan EV app do I get any daily/monthly statistics, is that only for the newer models? I can only use the charging and climate control features.

I get the stats on 151 L24.

fael · 01-04-2019 9:05pm

jasonb wrote: »

I have a 151 L24 and I went into the Nissan EV App and clicked on the 'Bar Chart' Icon at the bottom of the screen. It was blank by default, but if I clicked on a section (I tried 'Yearly Data'), it then updated and gave me statistics for 2019, so that at least is working for me.

Thanks, went back into the app (still wasn't working) and below the Yearly stats found a link to a Nissan website that mentioned you need to tick the 'Share Vehicle Information' option in the car. I'll check that in the next time I'm in the car.

fael · 05-04-2019 2:40pm

fael wrote: »

...you need to tick the 'Share Vehicle Information' option in the car. I'll check that in the next time I'm in the car.

That did the trick

Mickeroo · 09-04-2019 9:43pm

A bit off topic but this is the first time I've seen an EV take centre(-ish) stage in a hollywood film:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5l6a5RiR1E

I'm not sure but it seems like they have added in normal car noises there, I bet they manage to go the whole film without a charge too :pac:

Stealthirl · 13-04-2019 3:58am

Thought this might be worth posting here aswell

While changing from my winter wheels back to the summers i thought id have a look at the brakes as i have been getting a bit of a noise from the front offside wheel like a loose pad and the slight knock that seams common to the leaf. The back of the pads,clips and slider's on both sides were as dry as the Sahara, bit of copper grease and some Red silicone lube and now there's no noise. The sliders were very stiff. Should hopefully be good for another 50K

creedp · 13-04-2019 1:23pm

Stealthirl wrote: »

Thought this might be worth posting here aswell

Did you buy another set of Leaf alloys or a set from another Nissan model? Also do you just ignore the TPMS over the winter?

deadduck · 13-04-2019 1:39pm

Anyone got a recommendation for somewhere to pick up a suitable spare wheel in the Kildare/Dublin area?

olearydc · 15-04-2019 10:42am

Hi

I have a 24L ... great car and we use it 90% of the time
We were thinking of changing our main family Car (2 Lt Diesel) with the 60Kw leaf.
Just came off the phone with one of the Nissan dealers. The price they gave me for a trade in was about 20% less then another dealer came up with (Kia)

That's fair enough but the reason for the post was that they said the new leaf should be around next month some time. The cost he reported was 40,000 after grants

Sounds very expensive to me - -what are your thoughts?

Soarer · 15-04-2019 11:26am

Hyundai are charging something similar for a similar range Kona, and I assume Kia will be the same with the Niro EV, so that seems to be the going rate for ~400km range.

Stealthirl · 16-04-2019 1:29am

creedp wrote: »

Did you buy another set of Leaf alloys or a set from another Nissan model? Also do you just ignore the TPMS over the winter?

I ordered a set of steel wheels with TPMS and tires all fitted from eiretyres.com and changed one at a time with a short drive in between so the car picks up the new sensor and it's position

Soarer wrote: »

Hyundai are charging something similar for a similar range Kona, and I assume Kia will be the same with the Niro EV, so that seems to be the going rate for ~400km range.

Im wondering if the Soul will be the same

Soarer · 21-04-2019 11:43pm

Noticed today that I’ve lost another bar. Down to 8 now.
183,400km on the clock.
LeafSpy says I’m at 66.03%.
50% charge says 7.2kWh, so I’m assuming approx. 14.5kWh maximum capacity.

jasonb · 21-04-2019 11:55pm

In general, at approx. what mileage would you expect to lose the first bar? I bought a second hand 151 L24 last year, there's approx. 88k on the clock, and I'm wondering when it will go from 12 to 11 bars. I think part of me will feel a bit disappointed when it does, like it's not 'new' to me anymore...

unkel · 22-04-2019 12:08am

I wouldn't worry about it Jason. It could happen tomorrow, it could happen next year. You bought in 2018, which means your car is probably worth more today than what you paid for it. Combined with the almost zero running costs that means you have enjoyed pretty much a free car :cool:

n97 mini · 22-04-2019 12:37am

jasonb wrote: »

In general, at approx. what mileage would you expect to lose the first bar? I bought a second hand 151 L24 last year, there's approx. 88k on the clock, and I'm wondering when it will go from 12 to 11 bars. I think part of me will feel a bit disappointed when it does, like it's not 'new' to me anymore...

unkel wrote: »

I wouldn't worry about it Jason. It could happen tomorrow, it could happen next year. You bought in 2018, which means your car is probably worth more today than what you paid for it. Combined with the almost zero running costs that means you have enjoyed pretty much a free car :cool:

Thing is capacity trickles down anyway. When new the GOM will show ~164km on a full charge, but that drops by 1km maybe every 6 weeks. So you'll know when it's showing ~140km on a full charge that it's about to lose a bar.

As unkel says, the running costs and resale value make up for it.

Gumbo · 22-04-2019 8:46am

jasonb wrote: »

In general, at approx. what mileage would you expect to lose the first bar? I bought a second hand 151 L24 last year, there's approx. 88k on the clock, and I'm wondering when it will go from 12 to 11 bars. I think part of me will feel a bit disappointed when it does, like it's not 'new' to me anymore...

It’s not the mileage that effects it. It’s the battery chemistry and charging and use.
My 141 L24 lost its first bar at 77k km. I bought it in feb 2017 with about 88% SOH and 2 years later it dropped to the 85% SOH that loses the first bar.

jasonb · 22-04-2019 10:03am

Thanks for your replies. Sounds like it will drop soon enough. But don't get me wrong, I'm delighted with the car, it really suits my needs and the running costs are great. And not forgetting it's a nice car to drive, comfortable and has all the gadgets I need. I can't see myself ever going back to an ICE...

OO7FITZY · 17-06-2019 9:11pm

Anybody know if any of the dealers are doing deals on a new L40 - any scrappage deals etc?
looking at SV premium spec
with the L64 on the way, does anyone think the L40 will be discounted in any way?

lennymc · 17-06-2019 9:21pm

OO7FITZY wrote: »

Anybody know if any of the dealers are doing deals on a new L40 - any scrappage deals etc?
looking at SV premium spec
with the L64 on the way, does anyone think the L40 will be discounted in any way?

I looked at and test drove an l40 a couple of weeks ago, the dealer said the price is going up in a couple of weeks. Current stock will be sold at current price, but after that it will be 1200 more expensive

McGiver · 17-06-2019 9:28pm

lennymc wrote:

I looked at and test drove an l40 a couple of weeks ago, the dealer said the price is going up in a couple of weeks. Current stock will be sold at current price, but after that it will be 1200 more expensive

Jokers and still over-confident about Chademo. They will be gone soon.

Firblog · 22-06-2019 11:31am

Need to replace passenger side tail light on 152 Leaf SVE to pass NCT (bit of condensation - not removable with hairdryer) would this fit the bill? Was quoted €350 from dealer.

peposhi · 22-06-2019 3:53pm

Firblog wrote: »

Need to replace passenger side tail light on 152 Leaf SVE to pass NCT (bit of condensation - not removable with hairdryer) would this fit the bill? Was quoted €350 from dealer.

Check with Phil in electricautos, he had 2 Leafs dismantled for parts. Might be able to help.

hawkeye_bmr · 22-06-2019 8:25pm

Firblog wrote: »

Need to replace passenger side tail light on 152 Leaf SVE to pass NCT (bit of condensation - not removable with hairdryer) would this fit the bill? Was quoted €350 from dealer.

How much condensation are you talking about? Have you taken the lamp off and left the covers off to let the sun try and dry it out?

Firblog · 22-06-2019 10:06pm

hawkeye_bmr wrote: »

How much condensation are you talking about? Have you taken the lamp off and left the covers off to let the sun try and dry it out?

As a mechanic friend of mine once said, When it comes to cars, I'm like a cow lookin at a radio..

Soarer · 23-06-2019 10:45am

Firblog wrote: »

As a mechanic friend of mine once said, When it comes to cars, I'm like a cow lookin at a radio..

Listening to moosic?

I'll get my coat...

fael · 23-06-2019 1:20pm

Have an issue with the Leaf24 and not sure where to go with it.

Recently I had a vibration after driving about 3 km (going slightly downhill) where the vibration was so bad I thought I had a flat tire. All 4 tires where fine though. Got the car towed on a flatbed and checked by local garage but they could not find anything wrong at all. I was very puzzled by it, but indeed the car drives like a dream again. Afterwards I suspected it might have something to do with the handbrake by reading a bit about leaf weak spots in general. It was set on the flatbed and thus released when it came off the flatbed. Normally don't use the handbrake much, but when I do and reverse out of the driveway it sometimes is sticky for the first 20 meters or so and then seems to release okay.

Now this week I had the exact same problem at exactly the same location. So what I did this time was stop the car, set the handbrake, release the handbrake and set off again. Fault was completely gone. It is not the road surface as I pass that location pretty much every day. If it happens again I will stop the car again with the normal brakes, and then set off again without using the handbrake. If the fault is still there I am convinced it is the handbrake. If the fault would disappear it could be something else.
But not sure how this slight downhill factors into the cause, unless it's a coincidence.

(htt p s://w ww.speakev.com/threads/intermittent-judder-and-knocking.134338/#post-2518790 this post is very much like the fault I have, minus the loud knocking.)

However in the meantime I would prefer to get the handbrake checked. I prefer not to go to a dealer and was wondering if there is a garage somewhere around Dublin that specialises in EV's and would be very familiar with a Leaf?

Other input also very welcome, heard the repair can be very costly.

Firblog · 23-06-2019 9:59pm

Firblog wrote: »

Need to replace passenger side tail light on 152 Leaf SVE to pass NCT (bit of condensation - not removable with hairdryer) would this fit the bill? Was quoted €350 from dealer.

Can anyone confirm the linked part is the right one? Cheers

Gumbo · 23-06-2019 11:07pm

Firblog wrote: »

Can anyone confirm the linked part is the right one? Cheers

Can you remove the rear light for a day or 2 and keep it indoors and then go straight to the test. Condensation should clear straight up enough to pass nct.

*assuming the condensation is not so bad that the lights are unusable.

Firblog · 24-06-2019 8:59pm

The light only failed because of the condensation, cannot remove and leave for a couple of days, and wouldn't be comfortable removing it anyways.

Any chance someone can confirm that light is the correct one for 152 24 Leaf SVE? need to get one soon, or will have to pay for retest..

Soarer · 24-06-2019 9:00pm

fael wrote: »

Have an issue with the Leaf24 and not sure where to go with it.

Recently I had a vibration after driving about 3 km (going slightly downhill) where the vibration was so bad I thought I had a flat tire. All 4 tires where fine though. Got the car towed on a flatbed and checked by local garage but they could not find anything wrong at all. I was very puzzled by it, but indeed the car drives like a dream again. Afterwards I suspected it might have something to do with the handbrake by reading a bit about leaf weak spots in general. It was set on the flatbed and thus released when it came off the flatbed. Normally don't use the handbrake much, but when I do and reverse out of the driveway it sometimes is sticky for the first 20 meters or so and then seems to release okay.

Now this week I had the exact same problem at exactly the same location. So what I did this time was stop the car, set the handbrake, release the handbrake and set off again. Fault was completely gone. It is not the road surface as I pass that location pretty much every day. If it happens again I will stop the car again with the normal brakes, and then set off again without using the handbrake. If the fault is still there I am convinced it is the handbrake. If the fault would disappear it could be something else.
But not sure how this slight downhill factors into the cause, unless it's a coincidence.

(htt p s://w ww.speakev.com/threads/intermittent-judder-and-knocking.134338/#post-2518790 this post is very much like the fault I have, minus the loud knocking.)

However in the meantime I would prefer to get the handbrake checked. I prefer not to go to a dealer and was wondering if there is a garage somewhere around Dublin that specialises in EV's and would be very familiar with a Leaf?

Other input also very welcome, heard the repair can be very costly.

Stop using the handbrake?

Soarer · 24-06-2019 9:01pm

Firblog wrote: »

The light only failed because of the condensation, cannot remove and leave for a couple of days, and wouldn't be comfortable removing it anyways.

Any chance someone can confirm that light is the correct one for 152 24 Leaf SVE? need to get one soon, or will have to pay for retest..

You're uncomfortable removing the current one, and yet you're looking for a replacement?

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