Hyundai Ioniq 28kWh

zg3409 · 16-04-2019 10:37am

unkel wrote: »

KCross wrote: »

I’m sure there are technical reasons like temperature (think -15C in Norway etc) that might be an issue for a 12V Li-ion as well.

Same technical reasons are an issue for a 400V Li-ion battery

Surprised no manufacturer is offering it though,

That's crazy talk:
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a15341302/how-the-hyundai-ioniq-ditched-its-traditional-12v-lead-acid-starter-battery/

KCross · 16-04-2019 11:02am

zg3409 wrote: »

That's crazy talk:
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a15341302/how-the-hyundai-ioniq-ditched-its-traditional-12v-lead-acid-starter-battery/

The devil is in the detail...

"... the Ioniq plug-in hybrid and Ioniq Electric, both of which use a lead-acid battery in the cargo bay. Hyundai would not say why it kept conventional batteries on those two models, but as they fetch significantly higher prices, tempering production costs was the likely solution."

Its an interesting article though and I read about that 12V reset button in relation to the Niro PHEV (didnt know the Ioniq hybrid had it), but like that article it seems to be only in the US version of the car. I do not see it in the Irish Niro PHEV. Maybe they are testing the waters with one model and one market to see how it goes?

KCross · 16-04-2019 11:07am

unkel wrote: »

Same technical reasons are an issue for a 400V Li-ion battery

True. They add heaters to the HV battery to protect it so it would be more engineering to heat the 12V although zg3409's article shows a good solution of the 12V being integrated into the HV battery. Its still just more work and more engineering than taking a nice cheap well proven lead acid off the shelf.

unkel wrote: »

I would happily pay the extra say €200 including all taxes and a bit of profit if I bought a car that I was going to keep for more than a few years.

I'd rather have the €200 in my pocket tbh. I'd say I've bought one battery for my cars in the last 10yrs or so.

Do you replace alot of car batteries?

unkel · 16-04-2019 2:26pm

KCross wrote: »

I'd rather have the €200 in my pocket tbh. I'd say I've bought one battery for my cars in the last 10yrs or so.

That's because you buy a new car every few years

I did say I'd pay extra if I planned to keep the car for a long time. Soon enough the lead acid battery in moving vehicles will go the way of the dodo. I'm delighted Hyundai agree with me

Maybe it deserves its own thread, but are there any other production cars that come with a lithium 12V battery as standard? Maybe some exotic cars?

KCross · 16-04-2019 2:41pm

unkel wrote: »

That's because you buy a new car every few years

I've never bought a new car in my life!
Typically change every 4-6yrs or so, so thats not it.

I wouldnt care whether its a lead acid or a li-ion but I'd rather they not increase the car cost for it..... li-ion is reducing in price so maybe its starting to become more viable.

unkel wrote: »

Maybe it deserves its own thread, but are there any other production cars that come with a lithium 12V battery as standard? Maybe some exotic cars?

Looking at the Ioniq and Niro it seems its in the hybrid versions only (not PHEV or BEV) and, i think, only in North America.

You'd think if it were in the hybrid they'd have it in the PHEV as well.

unkel · 18-04-2019 10:04pm

Ioniq is much happier now the temps are well over 10C again. Drove to Donabate beach and back (mostly motorway) - this is a 71km round trip and when I got home, I still had 170km range left

unkel · 19-04-2019 12:25am

This is kinda cool, I don't think it has been posted before. An Ioniq going over the Grossglockner (one of the highest alpine passes) with full overlay display of many torque pro gauges :cool:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuCGP4jL7Ow

BigAl81 · 19-04-2019 10:23am

unkel wrote: »

Ioniq is much happier now the temps are well over 10C again. Drove to Donabate beach and back (mostly motorway) - this is a 71km round trip and when I got home, I still had 170km range left

The 2019 Ionic must have a different battery so. Not a hope in hell I'd get anything near that.

Yesterday, as a test I drove as eco as possible. Very very gentel acceleration, coast and roll as much as possible reading the traffic ahead etc, car in eco mode, no heat / AC, and over 20k of suburban driving, I got a personal best of 12.5 kWh/100.

You couldn't realisticlly drive like that long term, but if I did, that would give 224kms range.

How could you get 241 predicted driving at morotrway speed? Doesn't seem to add up?

Thanks,
Al.

Dont be at yourself · 19-04-2019 10:26am

I think motorway range actually be more efficient than city driving, as long as you stick to 100km/h or so. Obviously, I can't bring myself to test it.

Mickeroo · 19-04-2019 10:33am

I did roughly 170km on my last charge and only had 17% battery left. That's with an average speed of between 50 and 70km/r on my 55km round trip commute (sport mode but still coast and use regen where i can). Total range would be about 204km going by that.

27km drive in this morning used 12% of battery (climate set to 21) which suggests 225km total range I think.

I think constant motorway speed you're never talking more than 170km or so regardless of the time of year. Mixed driving you can easily push it over the 200 in this weather I'm sure.

Other side of it is maybe my short commutes aren't the best for efficiency.

irishgrover · 19-04-2019 10:54am

BigAl81 wrote: »

The 2019 Ionic must have a different battery so. Not a hope in hell I'd get anything near that.

Yesterday, as a test I drove as eco as possible. Very very gentel acceleration, coast and roll as much as possible reading the traffic ahead etc, car in eco mode, no heat / AC, and over 20k of suburban driving, I got a personal best of 12.5 kWh/100.

You couldn't realisticlly drive like that long term, but if I did, that would give 224kms range.

How could you get 241 predicted driving at morotrway speed? Doesn't seem to add up?

Thanks,
Al.

I think that there is a difference between "motorway driving" and "driving on a motorway". This is especally true (and possibly less obvious) to those who drive on motorways in urban areas.
My GOM went above 170km for the first time in a few months today, but I drive mostly fast on empty motorways...

mouthful · 19-04-2019 12:47pm

Mickeroo wrote: »

I did roughly 170km on my last charge and only had 17% battery left. That's with an average speed of between 50 and 70km/r on my 55km round trip commute (sport mode but still coast and use regen where i can). Total range would be about 204km going by that.

27km drive in this morning used 12% of battery (climate set to 21) which suggests 225km total range I think.

I think constant motorway speed you're never talking more than 170km or so regardless of the time of year. Mixed driving you can easily push it over the 200 in this weather I'm sure.

Other side of it is maybe my short commutes aren't the best for efficiency.

Think I might crash watching the screen. would love to have that set up- tried several times but no luck.

unkel wrote: »

This is kinda cool, I don't think it has been posted before. An Ioniq going over the Grossglockner (one of the highest alpine passes) with full overlay display of many torque pro gauges :cool:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuCGP4jL7Ow

unkel · 19-04-2019 3:43pm

BigAl81 wrote: »

Yesterday, as a test I drove as eco as possible. Very very gentel acceleration, coast and roll as much as possible reading the traffic ahead etc, car in eco mode, no heat / AC, and over 20k of suburban driving, I got a personal best of 12.5 kWh/100.

I did a half day of that around Dublin last year and got about 9kWh/100km iirc. Yesterday was only about 15C though, when I did it last year it was early to mid 20s (ideal for EVs)

On an eco run on country roads at about 60km/h I have no doubt I could get the car to do 300km just driving gently (in sport mode

). A lad in Italy got 430km out of Ioniq and still had 4% left, now that would require some serious skills and patience (I have neither)

Kramer · 19-04-2019 4:37pm

Let me correct that for you....

unkel wrote: »

A lad in Italy someone on t'internet claimed they got 430km out of Ioniq and still had 4% left

I just got 500km from one charge from an Ioniq, & had 15% left.

See how t'internet works unkel

Silent Running · 19-04-2019 4:43pm

Kramer wrote: »

Let me correct that for you....

I just got 500km from one charge from an Ioniq, & had 15% left.

See how t'internet works unkel

There are a few reports of the Ioniq exceeding 400kms range. Some with video evidence. Take a moment and have a search before you slag off Unkel.

Kramer · 19-04-2019 4:46pm

Silent Running wrote: »

There are a few reports of the Ioniq exceeding 400kms range.

Quite possible...........sure I've just seen one where someone said they got over 500km.........

Silent Running wrote: »

Take a moment and have a search before you slag off Unkel.

Na, my time is too precious..........
Slagging off unkel................:p

Black_Knight · 20-04-2019 6:23pm

Just back from my 2nd test drive of a 2nd Ioniq. This time I put it in sport mode. Quite nice! Very punchy.

Overall happy with the car, but for 1 issue! A screeching/metal on metal noise at low speeds. Either when accelerating, or lightly braking. I had VESS turned off at the time, so it wasn't that "futuristic" drone noise.

I've 2 theories. Regen braking is causing something to rub up against something else, or a stone stuck somewhere.
I assume other Ioniq owners don't have this issue?

GreeBo · 20-04-2019 6:29pm

Black_Knight wrote: »

Just back from my 2nd test drive of a 2nd Ioniq. This time I put it in sport mode. Quite nice! Very punchy.

Overall happy with the car, but for 1 issue! A screeching/metal on metal noise at low speeds. Either when accelerating, or lightly braking. I had VESS turned off at the time, so it wasn't that "futuristic" drone noise.

I've 2 theories. Regen braking is causing something to rub up against something else, or a stone stuck somewhere.
I assume other Ioniq owners don't have this issue?

Considering buying an ionic.. but tempted to wait for the 2019 facelift as wet also tried a kona and the inside seems much nicer and more modern... was also told that leather not available from factory in Ireland?!

Mickeroo · 20-04-2019 6:51pm

Black_Knight wrote: »

Just back from my 2nd test drive of a 2nd Ioniq. This time I put it in sport mode. Quite nice! Very punchy.

Overall happy with the car, but for 1 issue! A screeching/metal on metal noise at low speeds. Either when accelerating, or lightly braking. I had VESS turned off at the time, so it wasn't that "futuristic" drone noise.

I've 2 theories. Regen braking is causing something to rub up against something else, or a stone stuck somewhere.
I assume other Ioniq owners don't have this issue?

Yeah, that sounds odd. I'd be asking them to take it to Hyundai for a look before I part with cash.

There does be a bit of a whirring noise on hard acceleration or regen but definitely no screeching that I've heard.

GreeBo wrote: »

Considering buying an ionic.. but tempted to wait for the 2019 facelift as wet also tried a kona and the inside seems much nicer and more modern... was also told that leather not available from factory in Ireland?!

Yeah only one spec in Ireland I'm afraid but it's better spec'd than the Kona.

Black_Knight · 20-04-2019 7:18pm

Mickeroo wrote: »

Yeah, that sounds odd. I'd be asking them to take it to Hyundai for a look before I part with cash.

There does be a bit of a whirring noise on hard acceleration or regen but definitely no screeching that I've heard.

This is Hyundai! Allegedly it's gone through its checks already, but I've asked them to take a look. I know I've a warranty, but if they don't acknowledge it being an issue before I buy then it'd never be fixed. Here's hoping for a mechanic with good hearing.

zg3409 · 20-04-2019 10:10pm

was also told that leather not available from factory in Ireland?!

Some UK imports have factory leather. Specialists will import on request if importing is an issue.. Also some Irish dealers have arranged leather retrim for new ioniqs, for extra, so of it is a deal breaker you could price retrim.
E.g. https://alba-automotive.ie

The main difference in Ioniq vs kona is range of kona, the extra range means less issues using public chargers, however the kia niro long range will be available in Ireland soon, which is very similar to kona but larger boot. The ioniq may be available in the next year with a larger battery (38.5kwh ish) which also would help with range.

gunnerfitzy · 21-04-2019 6:38am

GreeBo wrote: »

Considering buying an ionic.. but tempted to wait for the 2019 facelift as wet also tried a kona and the inside seems much nicer and more modern... was also told that leather not available from factory in Ireland?!

Seriously considering the soon-to-be updated IONIQ for next year. I'm hoping that Hyundai will change its one trim policy. Leather seats would be a deal-breaker for me.

Shefwedfan · 21-04-2019 6:53am

gunnerfitzy wrote: »

Seriously considering the soon-to-be updated IONIQ for next year. I'm hoping that Hyundai will change its one trim policy. Leather seats would be a deal-breaker for me.

As above you can get company to install

gunnerfitzy · 21-04-2019 7:04am

Shefwedfan wrote: »

As above you can get company to install

For sure. However, I would much prefer a factory fitted option.

GreeBo · 21-04-2019 8:18pm

gunnerfitzy wrote: »

For sure. However, I would much prefer a factory fitted option.

We were offered factory leather but installed by an independent as part of the deal from hyundai rathgar.

Review of the e-niro savaged the ride quality... so now we are confused again... the ionic facelift seems like it could be a long wait?

Old diesel · 21-04-2019 8:51pm

GreeBo wrote: »

gunnerfitzy wrote: »

For sure. However, I would much prefer a factory fitted option.

We were offered factory leather but installed by an independent as part of the deal from hyundai rathgar.

Review of the e-niro savaged the ride quality... so now we are confused again... the ionic facelift seems like it could be a long wait?

I'd advise actually trying the eNiro before ruling it out.

Otherwise you risk ruling out a car that could work well for you.

I know my brief Leaf 40 experience felt different to other people's commentary.

I didn't find the centre console interfering with my knee for example.

I also found that my experience in the back seat didn't quite match other comments about space back there.

Was okay - but other people's comments led me to expect a bit better.

deegs · 25-04-2019 11:27am

So ive gone over 11k in the last few months without issue. Mostly use one pedal driving for my commute, brakes only get a look in when we actually want to stop.
Drove home fine yesterday 130km, charged up, and this morning my wife was leaving the estate and tried to stop at the entrance and couldnt, kept rolling forward. She really had to pump it for any effect. Warnings lit up the dashboard about check brake.
She managed to bring it home and I checked and I broke hard a few times and felt like the drivers side was working fine and stoping hard, but the passenger side had no brakes and was just bouncing as i came to a standstil.
Left it, and rang hyundai. They were busy but got back to me 2 hours later and said bring it in, but they had no courtsey cars......
Brought it in and it was perfectly fine...
THey said they will check alarm history but im not sure if they will take it seriously.

If there was a car coming when my wife was leaving the estate she would have rolled into it... it doesnt leave us with confidence

Mickeroo · 25-04-2019 11:40am

That sounds well dodgy, I'm not sure I would have trusted it enough to drive it to the dealer after that even.

flexcon · 25-04-2019 11:48am

deegs wrote: »

So ive gone over 11k in the last few months without issue. Mostly use one pedal driving for my commute, brakes only get a look in when we actually want to stop.
Drove home fine yesterday 130km, charged up, and this morning my wife was leaving the estate and tried to stop at the entrance and couldnt, kept rolling forward. She really had to pump it for any effect. Warnings lit up the dashboard about check brake.
She managed to bring it home and I checked and I broke hard a few times and felt like the drivers side was working fine and stoping hard, but the passenger side had no brakes and was just bouncing as i came to a standstil.
Left it, and rang hyundai. They were busy but got back to me 2 hours later and said bring it in, but they had no courtsey cars......
Brought it in and it was perfectly fine...
THey said they will check alarm history but im not sure if they will take it seriously.

If there was a car coming when my wife was leaving the estate she would have rolled into it... it doesnt leave us with confidence

if you haven’t used the brakes in a very long time it can happen.

Sounds like the brakes were then used a few times and the system was back into equilibrium again.

Just a thought though...

Silent Running · 25-04-2019 12:06pm

Every now and then it's not a bad idea to put the car in neutral while it's moving and stop the car with the brake pedal. This gives the brakes a small workout and frees up any sticky parts. It also cleans the discs.

KCross · 25-04-2019 12:09pm

deegs wrote: »

So ive gone over 11k in the last few months without issue. Mostly use one pedal driving for my commute, brakes only get a look in when we actually want to stop.
Drove home fine yesterday 130km, charged up, and this morning my wife was leaving the estate and tried to stop at the entrance and couldnt, kept rolling forward. She really had to pump it for any effect. Warnings lit up the dashboard about check brake.

Wasnt there a brake recall on the Ioniq? Was that only the 17x's?
How old is yours?

flexcon wrote: »

if you haven’t used the brakes in a very long time it can happen.

Sounds like the brakes were then used a few times and the system was back into equilibrium again.

Just a thought though...

Probably right.
You should really use the brakes every few days on an EV by pressing hard on them... doesnt even need to be while driving... just ensuring the caliper gets a good exercise as they can cease up with lack of use.

Silent Running · 25-04-2019 12:12pm

KCross wrote: »

Wasnt there a brake recall on the Ioniq? Was that only the 17x's?
How old is yours?

Mine's 181 and wasn't affected by the recall. So probably for 2017 only.

zg3409 · 25-04-2019 1:21pm

deegs wrote: »

tried to stop at the entrance and couldnt, kept rolling forward. She really had to pump it for any effect. Warnings lit up the dashboard about check brake.

One possible reason is regeneration is DISABLED with 100% charge in some situations to prevent overcharging battery. Happened to me once in my housing estate, was fine a few miles later.
I needed a change of underwear. I am not sure if there is any warning on display.

E.g. https://www.ioniqforum.com/forum/226-hyundai-ioniq-plug-hybrid-phev/27593-regen-breaking-full-battery.html#/topics/27593

Another possibility as suggested is rusty or sticking brakes due to lack of use. I think the best way to prevent this is to turn regeneration off using paddles and stop suddenly from high speed. This is common issue on all electric cars. With regeneration on, even on hard stopping, a lot of the energy goes back to battery and not into brakes. With zero regen the car must use the brakes.

deegs · 25-04-2019 1:37pm

Great points all, i do like the idea of neutral and using brakes alone.
I'd hope it is an issue like this, but I do drive it hard for 140km on motorway (no brakes at all) and 100km on back country roads, lots of braking every single day so I'd be very surprised if the calipers were seizing due to low use.
Waiting to hear back from garage... will let you know.
And its a 191 so not affected by the recall.
Cheers guys!

unkel · 25-04-2019 1:43pm

zg3409 wrote: »

I think the best way to prevent this is to turn regeneration off using paddles and stop suddenly from high speed. This is common issue on all electric cars. With regeneration on, even on hard stopping, a lot of the energy goes back to battery and not into brakes. With zero regen the car must use the brakes.

I don't think that will make any difference. The regen levels are only applied when you lift off the accelerator (while not braking)

When you brake, either just regen or a combination of regen and friction brakes are used depending on the force on the brake pedal

So the only way to keep the friction brakes working normally is to brake hard occasionally

deegs · 25-04-2019 4:47pm

So car is back. Techs found the code fault couldnt find any leaks, tested the breaks which worked fine, so reset it and asked me to monitor....
I told them my wife was leaving our estate this morning and the car didnt stop and rolled out into the main road... thankfully there was no traffic but next time there could be.
Doesnt inspire confidence to say the least.

Shefwedfan · 25-04-2019 4:52pm

GreeBo wrote: »

We were offered factory leather but installed by an independent as part of the deal from hyundai rathgar.

Review of the e-niro savaged the ride quality... so now we are confused again... the ionic facelift seems like it could be a long wait?

What was issue with ride quality? I didn’t see any huge issues when driving it....

slave1 · 25-04-2019 5:42pm

deegs wrote: »

So car is back. Techs found the code fault couldnt find any leaks, tested the breaks which worked fine, so reset it and asked me to monitor....
I told them my wife was leaving our estate this morning and the car didnt stop and rolled out into the main road... thankfully there was no traffic but next time there could be.
Doesnt inspire confidence to say the least.

Are you saying it happened a second time?

Black_Knight · 25-04-2019 9:32pm

slave1 wrote: »

Are you saying it happened a second time?

Think he's subtly saying it's the wife :pac:

Black_Knight · 26-04-2019 12:16pm

Black_Knight wrote: »

Just back from my 2nd test drive of a 2nd Ioniq....
Overall happy with the car, but for 1 issue! A screeching/metal on metal noise at low speeds. Either when accelerating, or lightly braking. I had VESS turned off at the time, so it wasn't that "futuristic" drone noise.

Hyundai themselves won't fix this. They say they've inspected the car, and can't find any fault with it. While at the same time, they admit they can hear the noise.

I can't understand where they're coming from. Not being able to find the cause of the issue is not the same as there being no issue at all. :mad: I'd be fairly pissed off if I'd bought this car and 2 weeks later it started making this noise, only to be told "it's nothing".

Silent Running · 26-04-2019 5:41pm

Anyone find that the smart cruise control is very inefficient? I find it powering on when I wouldn't, and powering higher than I would. Running regen on downslopes where I would be freewheeling.

Generally hard on power, which is fine when there is a good buffer of spare kilometres, but when you're trying to bridge a long gap between chargers, hardly ideal.

On another note: I fitted a pair of aero-flat wiper blades before my last English run. The difference between the stock blades and these is incredible. Especially passing a truck on a very wet motorway.

lafors · 26-04-2019 5:45pm

BigAl81 wrote: »

The 2019 Ionic must have a different battery so. Not a hope in hell I'd get anything near that.

Yesterday, as a test I drove as eco as possible. Very very gentel acceleration, coast and roll as much as possible reading the traffic ahead etc, car in eco mode, no heat / AC, and over 20k of suburban driving, I got a personal best of 12.5 kWh/100.

You couldn't realisticlly drive like that long term, but if I did, that would give 224kms range.

How could you get 241 predicted driving at morotrway speed? Doesn't seem to add up?

Thanks,
Al.

My 181 gets no where near that. 220 would be huge for me to get, actually 200 would be. I have absolutely no idea how people are really getting these huge figures without having a different battery.

Mike9832 · 26-04-2019 6:33pm

lafors wrote: »

My 181 gets no where near that. 220 would be huge for me to get, actually 200 would be. I have absolutely no idea how people are really getting these huge figures without having a different battery.

It's weird alright

Driving like grannies I would have thought

Unkel floors it all the time in sport mode, destroying BMW's at the traffic light grand prix and gets that 200km easy in summer

I'd check your battery

Mickeroo · 26-04-2019 7:40pm

Silent Running wrote: »

Anyone find that the smart cruise control is very inefficient? I find it powering on when I wouldn't, and powering higher than I would. Running regen on downslopes where I would be freewheeling.

Generally hard on power, which is fine when there is a good buffer of spare kilometres, but when you're trying to bridge a long gap between chargers, hardly ideal.

On another note: I fitted a pair of aero-flat wiper blades before my last English run. The difference between the stock blades and these is incredible. Especially passing a truck on a very wet motorway.

Yeah I thought the same I think if you want to milk the miles at motorway speed it's probably best not to use it.

unkel · 26-04-2019 10:28pm

Mike9832 wrote: »

Unkel floors it all the time in sport mode, destroying BMW's at the traffic light grand prix and gets that 200km easy in summer

Indeed, averaged 240km last summer

Almost all my driving is in the greater Dublin area though. Very rarely do I do sustained (more than 30km) motorway driving at over 120km/h. That's what kills range. And a good bit of the driving is with family and / or dog on board. This is when I behave

BigAl81 · 27-04-2019 9:14am

So, took auld sparkey for a 170km trip last weekend when the weather was 18 to 20 degrees.

This was from Dublin to near Downpatrick.

I had done this same trip a month previous and the car was giving a range of 160kms so I had to stop and charge as I wasn't going to make my destination. This was in 8 to 10 degree weather.

Last weekend I made it with 48kms left on the clock!!!!

I couldn't believe it, that's a range difference of nearly
60kms based on weather!!!! And 8 degrees is hardly freezing.

On both trips I had cruise on at 110kmph and apart from the weather, everything else was identical

Delighted to get the 225km range at "motorway speed" but very disappointed with the cooler weather results.

Edit : updated range difference to 60, not 90. Mistake in the maths!

Mickeroo · 27-04-2019 10:06am

BigAl81 wrote: »

So, took auld sparkey for a 170km trip last weekend when the weather was 18 to 20 degrees.

This was from Dublin to near Downpatrick.

I had done this same trip a month previous and the car was giving a range of 160kms so I had to stop and charge as I wasn't going to make my destination. This was in 8 to 10 degree weather.

Last weekend I made it with 48kms left on the clock!!!!

I couldn't believe it, that's a range difference of nearly 90kms based on weather!!!! And 8 degrees is hardly freezing.

On both trips I had cruise on at 110kmph and apart from the weather, everything else was identical

Delighted to get the 225km range at "motorway speed" but very disappointed with the cooler weather results.

Was it a windy day the other time? Have found wind makes more difference than temp myself so far.

BigAl81 · 27-04-2019 1:11pm

Mickeroo wrote:

Was it a windy day the other time? Have found wind makes more difference than temp myself so far.

Not really, just an average day. It's makes a range difference of about a third depending on the weather!!

September1 · 27-04-2019 1:20pm

I did once a very long trip and with warm weather and driving behind trucks using ACC I think you can easily make 280km, perhaps 300km on full battery. Obviously I was using back then FCPs so I did top 214km, however I always had 50-60km spare to reach another charger if first one would be broken, so 270km after FCP charge should be possible.

Uriel. · 27-04-2019 10:34pm

Picked up my new (to me) ioniq hev from UK today. Got the premium SE spec so has lots of nice gadgets. The adaptive cruise control is amazing. Had a 110 mile motorway trip to the port and it was the easiest driving I've ever done.

Hyundai Ioniq 28kWh

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