The Batman (Matt Reeves) spoilers from post 1030

thomas anderson. · 17-05-2019 9:16am

Gabriel Macht should be Batman

sky88 · 17-05-2019 9:30am

well im always willing to let someone have a chance but im not sure of this at all. i just cant get a picture him in the batsuit looking right

w/s/p/c/ · 17-05-2019 9:36am

People gave out when Keaton was cast...

People gave out when Ledger was cast as The Joker...

People gave out when Affleck was cast...

Pattinson is a decent actor who was in a teen franchise over a decade ago (get over it people!), I thought Armie Hammer was a lock for this, but I think Pattinson will portray younger Bruce Wayne/Batman, which is the angle the movie is going for.

Hopefully the movie won't be another rubbish addition to the DC universe.

El Duda · 17-05-2019 10:13am

Pattinson has a great jaw. He will look awesome as batman.

johnny_ultimate · 17-05-2019 10:42am

I’d go as far as saying Pattinson’s had one of the best careers of any young actor working at the moment - his former co-star Kristen Stewart’s been the same to a large degree, but Pattinson’s record is just fantastic. Even the duds have been interesting choices of collaborators such as Herzog. But the likes of Good Time, High Life, his Cronenberg films, The Lost City of Z have demonstrators he’s a hell of an actor with very good taste indeed. Hope that record continues here.

Gwynplaine · 17-05-2019 11:22am

Hipster Batman. Eating Avocados,wearing no socks, and driving an electric Batmobile.

StudentDad · 17-05-2019 11:34am

At this stage I'm totally jaded when it comes to Batman and DC in general. We have a reboot with Christian Bale. Then we have a reboot with Ben Afleck and now we're going to have yet another.

I've never been much of a Marvel fan but to be frank, at least there is continuity there. Yes I have a few issues with Endgame, but at least there seems to be a level of coherence with Marvel's storyline.

The way the Batman franchise seems to be going at the moment is a bit like a car company changing one of it's cars every few years and the models are so unlike each other you'd be hard pressed to see any similarities between the iterations.

SD

Tazzimus · 17-05-2019 12:14pm

Aoife2017 wrote: »

The Vampire Batman so...

Sparkly Batman :pac:

As much stick as he rightly deserves for the Twilight movies, I think he'll do alright here.

And yeah, it can't be any worse than Clooneys nipple suit

Mitch Connor · 17-05-2019 12:17pm

StudentDad wrote: »

At this stage I'm totally jaded when it comes to Batman and DC in general. We have a reboot with Christian Bale. Then we have a reboot with Ben Afleck and now we're going to have yet another.

I've never been much of a Marvel fan but to be frank, at least there is continuity there. Yes I have a few issues with Endgame, but at least there seems to be a level of coherence with Marvel's storyline.

The way the Batman franchise seems to be going at the moment is a bit like a car company changing one of it's cars every few years and the models are so unlike each other you'd be hard pressed to see any similarities between the iterations.

SD

I don't see the problem, to be honest. the comic book world is full of different takes on the same character, from looks to origins to motivations and personality. I don't see why the Comic Movie world can't also enjoy that same story telling freedom.

Sad Professor · 17-05-2019 12:19pm

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

I’d go as far as saying Pattinson’s had one of the best careers of any young actor working at the moment - his former co-star Kristen Stewart’s been the same to a large degree, but Pattinson’s record is just fantastic. Even the duds have been interesting choices of collaborators such as Herzog. But the likes of Good Time, High Life, his Cronenberg films, The Lost City of Z have demonstrators he’s a hell of an actor with very good taste indeed. Hope that record continues here.

I am surprised he signed up to this. He has totally avoided big Hollywood movies since Twilight despite I'm sure getting many offers. But I guess he has to pay the bills too.

Adamocovic · 17-05-2019 12:29pm

Sad Professor wrote: »

I am surprised he signed up to this. He has totally avoided big Hollywood movies since Twilight despite I'm sure getting many offers. But I guess he has to pay the bills too.

He's either doing it just for the payday (something he'd probably admit!) or maybe he's trying to launch himself back into the spotlight and thinks doing a good job will help his career. Or of course the movie just sounds good to him. Hard to know but we'll probably figure it out based on the job he does.

TerrorFirmer · 17-05-2019 12:42pm

I can't fault that casting. Pattinson is a great actor and he has a good, solid CV that's just overshadowed in the common mind by TWILIGHT in great, big, sparkly letters.

I don't mind multiple reboots necessarily; I'd rather that then be stuck in one bloated, forced universe. Affleck was a good Batman but very unfortunately for him, the weak films, and universe universe, in which his Batman existed completely eclipsed his solid performance.

Spiderman was another example. Toby Maguire was great at first, but it got stale by SM3. Garfield's Amazing Spiderman was good, but his second outing was dismal and I had zero appetite for a third. They captured the magic of the first Toby Maguire movie with Homecoming, threaded it well through the MCU, and thus far I'm happy enough to see more standalones.

So bring on Bruce Cullen, I say!

yourdeadwright · 17-05-2019 12:43pm

Adamocovic wrote: »

He's either doing it just for the payday (something he'd probably admit!) or maybe he's trying to launch himself back into the spotlight and thinks doing a good job will help his career. Or of course the movie just sounds good to him. Hard to know but we'll probably figure it out based on the job he does.

Id imagine the chance to play Batman is hard to play down , A hell of a lot of people would have grown up loving the character ,

Adamocovic · 17-05-2019 12:46pm

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Id imagine the chance to play Batman is hard to play down , A hell of a lot of people would have grown up loving the character ,

True, and if he does a good job he may be able to wash himself of the twilight image and instead be recognised as Batman.

Something that will no doubt tempt him based on his opinions of twilight! :pac:

StudentDad · 17-05-2019 12:50pm

Mitch Connor wrote: »

I don't see the problem, to be honest. the comic book world is full of different takes on the same character, from looks to origins to motivations and personality. I don't see why the Comic Movie world can't also enjoy that same story telling freedom.

Story telling is one thing. Nah, that didn't quite work, into the bin it goes. It gets old

As I said, I've never been much of a Marvel fan, but at least there has been a certain level of certainty in their work

SD

Dades · 17-05-2019 12:57pm

Sad Professor wrote: »

I am surprised he signed up to this. He has totally avoided big Hollywood movies since Twilight despite I'm sure getting many offers. But I guess he has to pay the bills too.

Christian Bale did indie/highbrow stuff before, during and after Batman. His stock has remained as high as ever.

Now if if Joel Schumacher was directing this...

Though honestly after Nolan's trilogy I can't imagine where the hell are they going with this.

Drumpot · 17-05-2019 12:57pm

StudentDad wrote: »

Story telling is one thing. Nah, that didn't quite work, into the bin it goes. It gets old As I said, I've never been much of a Marvel fan, but at least there has been a certain level of certainty in their work

SD

The familiarity of Marvel was exactly why I enjoyed the more chaotic feel of DC. Despite flaws I really enjoyed MOS and BVS because they gave us something different to marvel.

WW (CA), Aquaman (Thor) and Shazam (GOTG) might Aswell be marvel movies because they were made with pretty much the exact same ingredients and tone. It’s a shame because we are now going to end up with Both DC and Marvel releasing the same movies but just different character names. People don’t want different they want the same and that’s what the box office figures have told DC.

The Joker and maybe even this Batman are brave attempts at DC to keep trying to find their own unique movie.

StudentDad · 17-05-2019 1:07pm

Drumpot wrote: »

The familiarity of Marvel was exactly why I enjoyed the more chaotic feel of DC. Despite flaws I really enjoyed MOS and BVS because they gave us something different to marvel.

WW (CA), Aquaman (Thor) and Shazam (GOTG) might Aswell be marvel movies because they were made with pretty much the exact same ingredients and tone. It’s a shame because we are now going to end up with Both DC and Marvel releasing the same movies but just different character names. People don’t want different they want the same and that’s what the box office figures have told DC.

The Joker and maybe even this Batman are brave attempts at DC to keep trying to find their own unique movie.

Don't get me wrong, I liked the direction with Bats played by Bale and to an extent with Afleck. It seemed truer to the graphic novels. Alot more grit. I used to wince at some of the versions of Batman on TV. The guy is a billionaire with serious psych issues. Not someone you want to tangle with in a hurry. That's where Marvel makes my teeth itch. The onscreen versions are almost cuddly. It would be great to see a Batman onscreen that didn't have to worry about the pg 13 tag on the film rating.

Fine, they're going to reboot the franchise again. I just hope we get Batman and not sparkly vampire Batman.

SD

Adamocovic · 17-05-2019 1:34pm

Drumpot wrote: »

The familiarity of Marvel was exactly why I enjoyed the more chaotic feel of DC. Despite flaws I really enjoyed MOS and BVS because they gave us something different to marvel.

WW (CA), Aquaman (Thor) and Shazam (GOTG) might Aswell be marvel movies because they were made with pretty much the exact same ingredients and tone. It’s a shame because we are now going to end up with Both DC and Marvel releasing the same movies but just different character names. People don’t want different they want the same and that’s what the box office figures have told DC.

The Joker and maybe even this Batman are brave attempts at DC to keep trying to find their own unique movie.

Already was very excited about Joker, been following it a while just itching to see it. Once I heard Phoenix I was hooked on the idea.

Casting Pattinson has actually made me more excited about this too. The castings and directors in Philips and Reeves have been very interested. Hopefully Batman they try something different, which it looks like they're doing with Joker.

It's good to see them trying rather than staying to the same formula like you say.

pixelburp · 17-05-2019 1:42pm

I presume Pattinson would have been given some / all of the new script being written by ... *googles* ah, Reeves himself; it's entirely likely the actor liked it enough to dip his toes back into Hollywood blockbuster territory; no harm "doing one for the studio" if the script is right.

Sad Professor · 17-05-2019 2:00pm

pixelburp wrote: »

I presume Pattinson would have been given some / all of the new script being written by ... *googles* ah, Reeves himself; it's entirely likely the actor liked it enough to dip his toes back into Hollywood blockbuster territory; no harm "doing one for the studio" if the script is right.

Yeah, but he almost certainly signed on for at least 2-3 more, which he probably has no say in.

Mr E · 17-05-2019 2:05pm

There are multiple petitions to replace Pattinson already. Because, comic book nerds.

https://comicbook.com/dc/2019/05/17/the-batman-robert-pattinson-cast-petitions-remove-replace/

pixelburp · 17-05-2019 2:16pm

Sad Professor wrote: »

Yeah, but he almost certainly signed on for at least 2-3 more, which he probably has no say in.

Hmm that's true; though as Affleck has himself (presumably) shown, these kind of contracts can be broken out of. And with DC's constantly shifting strategy (still waiting on that Flash movie!), who knows what kind of contract he signed on for!

Mr E wrote: »

There are multiple petitions to replace Pattinson already. Because, comic book nerds.

https://comicbook.com/dc/2019/05/17/the-batman-robert-pattinson-cast-petitions-remove-replace/

Now, this is naked, bad-faith clickbait: when you clickthrough, the most any of those petitions have is 150 signatures, the resting floating around the 40 mark. I wouldn't even call it bad journalism, as that insults journalists.

Sad Professor · 17-05-2019 2:21pm

I just remembered that Pattinson is in Nolan's next "event film" as well. So Batman won't be his first dip back into mainstream fare.

Zwillinge · 17-05-2019 2:22pm

Fantastic news!
I was thinking if he bulked up a bit, he'd be a great Batman and if he slimmed down further he'd be a truly terrifying looking Joker.

Good for him, he deserves a biggie to wash away Twilight business

johnny_ultimate · 17-05-2019 2:46pm

Zwillinge wrote: »

Good for him, he deserves a biggie to wash away Twilight business

Quite frankly, his entire post-Twilight career to date has done far more to ‘wash away’ any lingering doubts about his talent than any superhero movie will do. If anything, this is a move *back* towards more traditional mainstream fare after a half decade spent entirely in independent and art house productions that properly tested his abilities. I could easily point to more traditionally acclaimed and respected actors who’ve taken far fewer risky and challenging roles than Pattinson has.

correction · 17-05-2019 3:01pm

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Quite frankly, his entire post-Twilight career to date has done far more to ‘wash away’ any lingering doubts about his talent than any superhero movie will do. If anything, this is a move *back* towards more traditional mainstream fare after a half decade spent entirely in independent and art house productions that properly tested his abilities. I could easily point to more traditionally acclaimed and respected actors who’ve taken far fewer risky and challenging roles than Pattinson has.

To you and me, sure. But for most when they hear the name the first movie they will think of is Twilight, it's unfair but it is what it is. I'd be pleased for him to be Batman when his name appears in the news and not Twilight vampire.

Zwillinge · 17-05-2019 3:08pm

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Quite frankly, his entire post-Twilight career to date has done far more to ‘wash away’ any lingering doubts about his talent than any superhero movie will do. If anything, this is a move *back* towards more traditional mainstream fare after a half decade spent entirely in independent and art house productions that properly tested his abilities. I could easily point to more traditionally acclaimed and respected actors who’ve taken far fewer risky and challenging roles than Pattinson has.

Exactly, he'll "wash away" for the those who don't watch independent or art-house movies.

I'm gonna take a horrific judgemental leap and say that many a Twilight watching fan has grown up and probably never got into/seen or heard of his lesser mainstream movies. I assume anyone dragged to those movies in the cinema are probably rolling their eyes at a sparkly vampire Bat lad.

I've seen many "Nooo!" and "Awful casting" and "Dreadful, wtf where they thinking?" comments so far which confused me to no end.

Hopefully him being Bats will be enjoyed by many and have people more aware of his abilities over the last decade basically.

Edit: Feck it, he'll always be Cedric Diggory to me :pac:

Sad Professor · 17-05-2019 3:18pm

In fairness to them it's only 7 years or so since the last Twilight. It took about the same amount of time for many people to start taking Dicaprio seriously after Titanic and he had a far higher profile during that time.

Drumpot · 17-05-2019 3:23pm

Sad Professor wrote: »

In fairness to them it's only 7 years or so since the last Twilight. It took about the same amount of time for many people to start taking Dicaprio seriously after Titanic and he had a far higher profile during that time.

Yeh, the departed and blood diamond did it for him. He was in Gangs of New York but still had that stench of Jack.... Being mates with Scorcese really helped.

Stop moaning ffs · 17-05-2019 4:56pm

Empire reporting Nicholas Hoult is also in the running to play batman?

I’ll take pattinson thanks. I think he’d be fantastic in the role.
No disrespect to Hoult but he’s too young or something?

The White Wolf · 17-05-2019 6:36pm

Drumpot wrote: »

The familiarity of Marvel was exactly why I enjoyed the more chaotic feel of DC. Despite flaws I really enjoyed MOS and BVS because they gave us something different to marvel.

WW (CA), Aquaman (Thor) and Shazam (GOTG) might Aswell be marvel movies because they were made with pretty much the exact same ingredients and tone. It’s a shame because we are now going to end up with Both DC and Marvel releasing the same movies but just different character names. People don’t want different they want the same and that’s what the box office figures have told DC.

The Joker and maybe even this Batman are brave attempts at DC to keep trying to find their own unique movie.

Agreed on everything. No matter how frustrating the DCEU could be the potential was still massive. Aquaman was an utter submission to fan demand for the MCU formula and that was that for me. I walked out after an hour and didn't bother with Shazam.

Skerries · 17-05-2019 7:55pm

found test footage of Pattinson

Slydice · 17-05-2019 9:44pm

I not sure it's too bad that people haven't seen much Pattinson since Twilight.

If he's put the work in like he has for his recent films, then it will probably help this film out.

There'll be the whole 'where did this come from?' effect.

kerplun k · 17-05-2019 10:12pm

It's great casting. I'm just surprised he accepted the role tho. Anyone unsure about his ability, check out a film called Good Time. He's brilliant in it.

Mr Crispy · 17-05-2019 10:16pm

Can't find anything to say the deal with Pattinson is finalised, by the way. Close, but not officially signed up is what I'm seeing. Hope he gets it though.

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JP Liz V1 · 17-05-2019 11:48pm

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

Empire reporting Nicholas Hoult is also in the running to play batman?

I’ll take pattinson thanks. I think he’d be fantastic in the role.
No disrespect to Hoult but he’s too young or something?

Both Pattinson and Hoult seem too young to me but it is a younger Batman I believe Reeves is going for

RPat has proved himself in his roles since Twillight

Sad Professor · 17-05-2019 11:54pm

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Both Pattinson and Hoult seem too young to me but it is a younger Batman I believe Reeves is going for

Pattinson is 3 years older than Bale was in Begins. And Hoult is only a year younger.

Also wasn't this script originally written for Affleck? I can't see this being another origin story.

Slydice · 17-05-2019 11:59pm

Pattinson is 33 :eek:

JP Liz V1 · 18-05-2019 12:40am

Sad Professor wrote: »

Pattinson is 3 years older than Bale was in Begins. And Hoult is only a year younger.

Also wasn't this script originally written for Affleck? I can't see this being another origin story.

I'm not sure where I read about younger Batman - Bruce

I thought it was here tbh, was the script changed when or why Affeck left?

I thought both chaps younger

brevity · 18-05-2019 2:46pm

There are rumours that the penguin and cat woman will be the villains

https://reddit.app.link/sZQkSv48MW

Stop moaning ffs · 18-05-2019 7:46pm

Wacky rumour out there that Keaton is in this. Training his protege?

God I hope it’s true. He’s the one true batman for me.

BrookieD · 18-05-2019 8:02pm

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

Wacky rumour out there that Keaton is in this. Training his protege?

God I hope it’s true. He’s the one true batman for me.

If true make it Batman Beyond and i am in

Baggly · 18-05-2019 8:07pm

BrookieD wrote:

If true make it Batman Beyond and i am in

I'd buy that.

Drumpot · 19-05-2019 12:20pm

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

Wacky rumour out there that Keaton is in this. Training his protege?

God I hope it’s true. He’s the one true batman for me.

Wow, I still remember going to see that Batman in the cinema. Think it’s the first movie I was so excited to goto as a child. Remember saying to my cousin “please don’t let me fall asleep” (as if I wss gonna fall asleep). Was also worried I wouldnt get into it at the time cause I was only 11! Love that original Batman! Keaton shouldn’t work but he was so good, hope he also goes back to Beetlejuice!

RickBlaine · 19-05-2019 1:53pm

I remember the outrage when Danial Craig was was as Bond and he has turned out to be very popular and successful in the role. I'll pay no attention to unwarranted internet anger and will reserve judgement until I see the film.

buser2x · 19-05-2019 4:28pm

the vampire turns into a bat

cena · 20-05-2019 12:07am

BrookieD wrote: »

If true make it Batman Beyond and i am in

great cartoon series

mikhail · 20-05-2019 4:50am

RickBlaine wrote: »

I remember the outrage when Danial Craig was was as Bond and he has turned out to be very popular and successful in the role. I'll pay no attention to unwarranted internet anger and will reserve judgement until I see the film.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY6RyRkl9uo

The internet is full of people who rant and rave about things based on nothing but a gut reaction. That doesn't mean you can't form an opinion, just that you should keep some perspective about the strength of the opinion and the unimportance of the subject.

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