Couple in Kildare sentenced over 'one of largest welfare fraud cases

punisher5112 · 25-03-2018 7:08pm

I know of Nigerians who work in the health board in a care center who declare themselves homeless and are put up in hotels.

They even got moved to a different hotel as it wasn't close enough to work.

They work all kinds of hours and o/t so aren't short a few quid.

corner of hells · 25-03-2018 7:18pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

I know of Nigerians who work in the health board in a care center who declare themselves homeless and are put up in hotels.

They even got moved to a different hotel as it wasn't close enough to work.

They work all kinds of hours and o/t so aren't short a few quid.

Homeless and with a job ?

punisher5112 · 25-03-2018 7:30pm

corner of hells wrote: »

Homeless and with a job ?

I sh1t you not.....

corner of hells · 25-03-2018 7:44pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

I sh1t you not.....

And bucking the trend by being Nigerians and working.

francis_begbie · 25-03-2018 9:16pm

kildare lad wrote: »

Great country this, come over here, go on unemployment benefit straight away at the height of the boom in this country. Have loads of kids get a free house, medical card, social welfare etc. Bloods my blood. Most of these nigerians come over when there was tonnes of work here, but most went on the dole and started firing out babies all paid for by us. Bunch of parasites.
I worked since i was 15 never claimed a penny till i was 29. I went on disability for a year through complications with crohns disease. I got cut off after a year because i hadnt paid enough stamps. Even though i was fully employed for the 2 years previous. I had letters from the doctors stating i wasnt able to work, which i wasnt anyway. But the social said that because i was living at home, my father could support me. I might paint myself black the next i go down.

Only the other week there was a story about a Syrian refugee in Ballaghdreen having the audacity to moan that he hadn't been granted a council house in Carlow within 3 months as promised, he was waiting nearly a year for it.

Another group of them threatened to sue over the quality of the canteen food.

Then the other week a feature on asylum seekers from South Africa (??!!?) being granted free laptops by some government quango.

Or what about the Czech couple who arrived here, declared themselves homeless and eventually secured a HAP apartment where we pay the bulk of the rent to a private landlord.

Being Irish in Ireland is a mugs game

Wheeliebin30 · 25-03-2018 9:19pm

francis_begbie wrote: »

Only the other week there was a story about a Syrian refugee in Ballaghdreen having the audacity to moan that he hadn't been granted a council house in Carlow within 3 months as promised, he was waiting nearly a year for it.

Another group of them threatened to sue over the quality of the canteen food.

Then the other week a feature on asylum seekers from South Africa (??!!?) being granted free laptops by some government quango.

Or what about the Czech couple who arrived here, declared themselves homeless and eventually secured a HAP apartment where we pay the bulk of the rent to a private landlord.

Being Irish in Ireland is a mugs game

Seems anyone can rock up here and declare themselves homeless, put into the nonsense 9000 "homeless" people dribble we hear the opposition moan about everyday.

francis_begbie · 25-03-2018 9:29pm

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Seems anyone can rock up here and declare themselves homeless, put into the nonsense 9000 "homeless" people dribble we hear the opposition moan about everyday.

It's a damning indictment of our politically correct culture that not one TD has publicly stated that they find handing out social housing within three months of arrival (that's the target anyway) to Syrians has absolutely no bearing on the housing crisis they bang on about.

enricoh · 25-03-2018 9:43pm

francis_begbie wrote: »

Only the other week there was a story about a Syrian refugee in Ballaghdreen having the audacity to moan that he hadn't been granted a council house in Carlow within 3 months as promised, he was waiting nearly a year for it.

Another group of them threatened to sue over the quality of the canteen food.

Then the other week a feature on asylum seekers from South Africa (??!!?) being granted free laptops by some government quango.

Or what about the Czech couple who arrived here, declared themselves homeless and eventually secured a HAP apartment where we pay the bulk of the rent to a private landlord.

Being Irish in Ireland is a mugs game

Just keep commuting away, pay the creche n 300k mortgage n pay tax at 52% over 36k. The government might reduce usc by 0.25% in October's budget. Might, if there's any dough left. Apparently asylum seeker numbers were up 30% in 2017 over 2016. 2018 could be a Whopper year!

markodaly · 25-03-2018 9:49pm

kildare lad wrote: »

Great country this, come over here, go on unemployment benefit straight away at the height of the boom in this country. .

This is the part I do not understand at the moment. How can a non-EU citizen come here and go on the dole straight away?

JohnMc1 · 25-03-2018 9:57pm

Kivaro wrote: »

But the main question that should be asked is why so many Nigerians came to Ireland in their tens of thousands in the last couple of decades. They bypassed many other countries to reach our shores. Why?
Was it because it was so easy for them to fool the asylum process?
Was it because of the generous social welfare entitlements and free homes when they got into system?
Was it because of our weak response to criminality in this country and subsequent farcical sentencing if caught?

Probably all of the above made Ireland a proverbial social welfare paradise for them, and they knew that the Irish liberal minority in this country would do everything in their power to quell the locals and scream 'racist' of any questions asked.

Yes on all counts. And if we think this is bad now wait until Varadkar starts importing 50K of them a year [He wants to increase the population by 1 million for 2040 plan. So that averages out to around 50K a year]the economy and welfare will crash through the floor.

Fann Linn · 25-03-2018 11:55pm

JohnMc1 wrote: »

Yes on all counts. And if we think this is bad now wait until Varadkar starts importing 50K of them a year [He wants to increase the population by 1 million for 2040 plan. So that averages out to around 50K a year]the economy and welfare will crash through the floor.

In the midst of a housing crisis.

Wheeliebin30 · 26-03-2018 8:08am

JohnMc1 wrote: »

Yes on all counts. And if we think this is bad now wait until Varadkar starts importing 50K of them a year [He wants to increase the population by 1 million for 2040 plan. So that averages out to around 50K a year]the economy and welfare will crash through the floor.

Eh have you a link to this absolute whopper of a lie?

I seen this claim on one of them anti establishement pages, even supporters of the page were calling it pure nonsense.

Caliden · 26-03-2018 8:19am

Greybottle wrote: »

€400,000 for what will be 18 months in a prison, most of it in an open one.

Yep. Crime pays.

I doubt the bank will now sit idly back and do nothing especially since they are now 40k in arrears.

AudreyHepburn · 26-03-2018 8:41am

It’s beyond me why there can’t a proper thorough way of means testing anyone seeking any kind of benefit. Anyone genuinely in need shouldn’t have any issue with being tested.

Contrary to the PC view not everyone on benefits needs them or are entitled to them.

Graces7 · 26-03-2018 9:00am

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Eh have you a link to this absolute whopper of a lie?

I seen this claim on one of them anti establishement pages, even supporters of the page were calling it pure nonsense.

Called fake news in the US

Hector Bellend · 26-03-2018 9:12am

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

It’s beyond me why there can’t a proper thorough way of means testing anyone seeking any kind of benefit. Anyone genuinely in need shouldn’t have any issue with being tested.

Contrary to the PC view not everyone on benefits needs them or are entitled to them.

Wouldn't that involve people doing their Job?

fortwilliam · 26-03-2018 9:19am

"He sentenced her to three years for each of the 14 counts of fraud to run concurrently and suspended all three years."

So.................... Nothing.

KrustyUCC · 26-03-2018 9:55am

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Eh have you a link to this absolute whopper of a lie?

I seen this claim on one of them anti establishement pages, even supporters of the page were calling it pure nonsense.

The 1 million figure by 2040 comes from the ESRI not Varadkar

The national population is projected to grow to 5.64 million by 2040, an increase of just over one million over the 2011 population. Population growth is projected to be greatest in and around the major cities and in particular Dublin, with the population share of the Dublin and Mid-East regions projected to increase to 41.6 per cent, with significant growth also projected for Louth.

http://npf.ie/wp-content/uploads/Prospects-for-Irish-Regions-and-Counties.-Scenarios-and-Implications.Jan-2018.pdf

Some of that population growth will be natural and some of it will be through migration

50k a year migrants is a not likely to happen imo

1 m extra people by 2040 will put huge strain on areas such as housing and welfare but hopefully there will be proper planning in place

Wheeliebin30 · 26-03-2018 9:59am

KrustyUCC wrote: »

The 1 million figure by 2040 comes from the ESRI not Varadkar

The national population is projected to grow to 5.64 million by 2040, an increase of just over one million over the 2011 population. Population growth is projected to be greatest in and around the major cities and in particular Dublin, with the population share of the Dublin and Mid-East regions projected to increase to 41.6 per cent, with significant growth also projected for Louth.

http://npf.ie/wp-content/uploads/Prospects-for-Irish-Regions-and-Counties.-Scenarios-and-Implications.Jan-2018.pdf

Some of that population growth will be natural and some of it will be through migration

50k a year migrants is a not likely to happen imo

1 m extra people by 2040 will put huge strain on areas such as housing and welfare but hopefully there will be proper planning in place

There is nothing there saying varadkar wants to import 50k migrants a year like the poster suggested.

KrustyUCC · 26-03-2018 10:04am

In what way is my post a spoof?

It clearly states that the population growth figure comes from the ESRI not Varadkar

Of course that figure is made up of projections between natural growth (more birth than deaths) and migratrion

There is nothing in my post saying varadkar wants to import 50k migrants a year, in fact I have said that 50k migrants a year is not likely to happen

Wheeliebin30 · 26-03-2018 10:06am

KrustyUCC wrote: »

In what way is my post a spoof?

It clearly states that the population growth figure comes from the ESRI not Varadkar

Of course that figure is made up of projections between natural growth (more birth than deaths) and migratrion

There is nothing in my post saying varadkar wants to import 50k migrants a year, in fact I have said that 50k migrants a year is not likely to happen

Yeah apologies, I thought you were the poster who put up that lie.

My mistake.

KrustyUCC · 26-03-2018 10:06am

Ah ok no bother

26-03-2018 10:08am

punisher5112 wrote: »

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I've worked since I was 15 and haven't received anything for it apart from a wage.

Well presumably you've walked on footpaths, driven on roads and gone to school? If you were so inclined you could have gotten 4 years of 3rd level education for more or less nothing.

TomSweeney · 26-03-2018 10:43am

punisher5112 wrote: »

Why isn't all assets stripped and sent packing.

Why as a small island are we importing fraudsters, criminals etc.

I'm working and can't get a mortgage.

I've worked since I was 15 and haven't received anything for it apart from a wage.

As Joe Pesci in the film Casino says
"If you had any heart you'd be out stealing for a living"

So true.

TheManTheMyth · 28-03-2018 6:20pm

How can Nigerians arrive in the state and just start claiming dole?!?

Couple in Kildare sentenced over 'one of largest welfare fraud cases

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