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Oscars 2018

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  • #102
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,309 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    MfMan wrote: »
    The estimable Clarke agrees with me :D

    https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/film/roman-j-israel-esq-colin-farrell-is-fine-the-film-is-a-total-mess-1.3375256
    Totally agree Wind River was excellent I thought.
    I find Denzel a tad mannered in some films (Link Streep was in the post...for good sake stop fiddling with your glasses!)


  • #103
    JP Liz V1
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    Directors Guild of America Awards (DGA) winners

    Outstanding Directorial Achievement in Feature Film:
    Guillermo del Toro, "The Shape of Water" - WINNER

    Outstanding Directorial Achievement in Documentaries
    Matthew Heineman, "City of Ghosts" - WINNER

    Outstanding Directorial Achievement in First-Time Feature Film:
    Jordan Peele, "Get Out" - WINNER
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  • #104
    [Deleted User]
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    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Directors Guild of America Awards (DGA) winners

    Outstanding Directorial Achievement in Feature Film:
    Guillermo del Toro, "The Shape of Water" - WINNER

    Outstanding Directorial Achievement in Documentaries
    Matthew Heineman, "City of Ghosts" - WINNER

    Outstanding Directorial Achievement in First-Time Feature Film:
    Jordan Peele, "Get Out" - WINNER

    I must be getting very old and cynical. I sat down to watch The Shape of Water seeing it up for best film, and knowing next to nothing about it, and then I see its about the thing Hannibal from the A-Team used to dress up as in his day job, and Amelie courting it with eggs, and I thought to myself I just can't take this seriously....


  • #105
    Tony EH
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    I'd argue that Rocky is a pretty exceptional film at that time. The same thing has been done to death since, but Rocky is the Dirty Harry of Boxing films, and had so many things going for it that have been copied ad nauseam. Its not like Stallone was considered a genius in the industry ever, always thought of as a guy who couldn't act and a meathead. But he managed to come up with a brilliant screenplay, amazing characters. The direction, score, everything about that film was really good - and it was one that can be loved by everyone. I know people (foolish people) who don't like network, or All the presidents men. I can see how Rocky can get the nod with its mass appeal.
    Kramer Vs Kramer, now you definitely have a point with that one. Probably something political with Coppola with the studios having a bunch of issues with him. Or maybe Meryl Streep has secretly been the overlord deity of hollywood forever....

    In the 70's, 'Rocky' was always going to beat 'Taxi Diver' all day long. No best picture award was going to go to a film that featured 12 year old pros and mass murder, all shot in a gritty, no nonsense, uncompromising, way. 'Rocky' winning contains no surprises. Now, 'Kramer vs Kramer', while being a very good film, beating 'Apocalypse Now' will always be a head scratcher. Also, let's not forget, 'Ordinary People' (another good film) beat 'Raging Bull' (a great film) three years later and Redford also got best director! That's even more bizarre than the 'Rocky'/'Taxi Driver' thing. It's like hollywood were afraid of Scorsese for best part of his career.

    I think both pictures ('Rocky' and 'Taxi Driver') are great and agree with the poster who said the 70's was a golden era. For me it's THE golden era and not before or since have films been as good, interesting or entertaining. But then, as a kid of the 80's, I grew up on 70's films. So, bias may play a part. But, equally playing its part is the fact that hollywood was willing to allow talent to make films that wouldn't have seen the light of day in the decades preceding, because BO sales were down and codes were relaxed.


  • #106
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    Tony EH wrote: »
    In the 70's, 'Rocky' was always going to beat 'Taxi Diver' all day long. No best picture award was going to go to a film that featured 12 year old pros and mass murder, all shot in a gritty, no nonsense, uncompromising, way. 'Rocky' winning contains no surprises. Now, 'Kramer vs Kramer', while being a very good film, beating 'Apocalypse Now' will always be a head scratcher. Also, let's not forget, 'Ordinary People' (another good film) beat 'Raging Bull' (a great film) three years later and Redford also got best director! That's even more bizarre than the 'Rocky'/'Taxi Driver' thing. It's like hollywood were afraid of Scorsese for best part of his career.

    I think both pictures ('Rocky' and 'Taxi Driver') are great and agree with the poster who said the 70's was a golden era. For me it's THE golden era and not before or since have films been as good, interesting or entertaining. But then, as a kid of the 80's, I grew up on 70's films. So, bias may play a part. But, equally playing its part is the fact that hollywood was willing to allow talent to make films that wouldn't have seen the light of day in the decades preceding, because BO sales were down and codes were relaxed.

    Yeah I forgot to mention the 12 year old pro is never gonna get the nod. I think maybe Ordinary people is getting a bit underrated. I'll be honest, at the risk of a public crucifixion, I enjoyed it more then Raging Bull. Not saying it was better but it certainly marked me more then Raging Bull.

    As for the golden era, I would have to put the 80's in there as well. The likes of Michael Mann, Oliver Stone, David Lynch and Cronenberg all coming into their prime and making amazing ballsy films. And it was also a fantastic decade for kids films too.
    I think the 80's was the last decade before marketing took over popular culture from artists.


  • #107
    Tony EH
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    I think maybe Ordinary people is getting a bit underrated. I'll be honest, at the risk of a public crucifixion, I enjoyed it more then Raging Bull.

    :eek:

    Line on the left, one cross each...
    Deleted User wrote: »
    As for the golden era, I would have to put the 80's in there as well. The likes of Michael Mann, Oliver Stone, David Lynch and Cronenberg all coming into their prime and making amazing ballsy films. And it was also a fantastic decade for kids films too.
    I think the 80's was the last decade before marketing took over popular culture from artists.

    Cronenberg and Lynch would have been "anti-hollywood", no matter what era they made films and they come from the 70's "enlightened" period too, without which I doubt they would got a break at all. Lynch got 'The Elephant Man' on the back of 'Eraserhead', which simply wouldn't have got a distributor if it was made a decade earlier. Cronenberg had been working independently throughout the decade, before Dino De Laurentiis financed 'The Dead Zone'.

    Stone and Mann were always pretty mainstream Hollywood directors though. I wouldn't put them in the same box as Cronenberg or Lynch. I can't see Mann or Stone making something like 'Rabid' or 'Blue Velvet'. Also Stone did make 'The Hand', which was a pretty mad concept.

    The 80's have some great classics, no doubt, as all the decades do. But when I think of the 80's, I feel that that decade is overshadowed by action flicks, tame horror films and teen romps, which were specific marketing angles. When I think of the 70's, I think anything goes.


  • #108
    [Deleted User]
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    Tony EH wrote: »
    :eek:

    Line on the left, one cross each...



    Cronenberg and Lynch would have been "anti-hollywood", no matter what era they made films and they come from the 70's "enlightened" period too, without which I doubt they would got a break at all. Lynch got 'The Elephant Man' on the back of 'Eraserhead', which simply wouldn't have got a distributor if it was made a decade earlier. Cronenberg had been working independently throughout the decade, before Dino De Laurentiis financed 'The Dead Zone'.

    Stone and Mann were always pretty mainstream Hollywood directors though. I wouldn't put them in the same box as Cronenberg or Lynch. I can't see Mann or Stone making something like 'Rabid' or 'Blue Velvet'. Also Stone did make 'The Hand', which was a pretty mad concept.

    The 80's have some great classics, no doubt, as all the decades do. But when I think of the 80's, I feel that that decade is overshadowed by action flicks, tame horror films and teen romps, which were specific marketing angles. When I think of the 70's, I think anything goes.

    I kind of agree with you. I think Stone and Mann more 'became' mainstream Hollywood because for example in Stones case he had so much success with the likes of Salvador and his scripts the studios knew they were on to a good thing with him and had no choice but to bankroll him. And i love the way he made big budget flicks when he had the creative control to make them about very controversial things. It cost him in the long run, but he made his mark at his peak.

    Lynch and Cronenberg are indeed products of then 70's but the films they made right at their best I think were in the 80's.

    And probably I have much more love for those 80's action films like Predator and Die Hard and as a kid it was impossible not to love the likes of Bloodsport, then you have all those great flicks like Gremlins, Goonies, Back to the Future brilliant original work. And the Sci Fi was really golden in the 80's - Aliens, Blade Runner. There is just so much to love about that decade in film.
    There probably was a lot more toot as Alan Sugar would say also, but I don't think it takes away from the long line of brilliant filmmaking


  • #109
    MfMan
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Yeah I forgot to mention the 12 year old pro is never gonna get the nod. I think maybe Ordinary people is getting a bit underrated. I'll be honest, at the risk of a public crucifixion, I enjoyed it more then Raging Bull. Not saying it was better but it certainly marked me more then Raging Bull.

    As for the golden era, I would have to put the 80's in there as well. The likes of Michael Mann, Oliver Stone, David Lynch and Cronenberg all coming into their prime and making amazing ballsy films. And it was also a fantastic decade for kids films too.
    I think the 80's was the last decade before marketing took over popular culture from artists.

    Don't blame you. Raging Bull should have been rechristened Raging Dull instead. An overlong montage of La Motta (causing) suffering interminably, coming during a period of his career when De Niro was going through an intense phase of repeating all his dialogue three times.


  • #110
    Looper007
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    So after the Bafta's last night, it must be safe to call the acting awards, Gary Oldman and Francis McDormand must be a lock in now of the Best Actor and Actress awards, also Sam Rockwell and Allison Janney also must be across the line. Unless The Oscar voters pull a shock in the last minute, I think these will be the safe bets on Oscar Night.

    I won't call Best Film, Best Director or Best Original Screenplay just yet cause I wouldn't be surprised if the Oscar voter's cause of this whole Time's Up movement, throw them the way of Greta Gerwig's Ladybird. Maybe I'm a bit cynical but the Oscar's do love to please whatever movement is "So hot" right now. I'm hoping Three Billboards win for Best Film and Screenplay and Paul Thomas Anderson for Best Director, definitely have more chance of the first two then the last sadly.

    Nothing against Ladybird, but I really don't get the love the film's got with the critics. By no mean's is it a bad film, it's a perfectly fine one but nowhere the masterpiece the critic's painted it as. Although I think she's a fine actress I don't think Saoirse Ronan performance was Oscar worthy, she was far better in Brooklyn, still her greatest performance to date.


  • #111
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    Looper007 wrote: »
    So after the Bafta's last night, it must be safe to call the acting awards, Gary Oldman and Francis McDormand must be a lock in now of the Best Actor and Actress awards, also Sam Rockwell and Allison Janney also must be across the line. Unless The Oscar voters pull a shock in the last minute, I think these will be the safe bets on Oscar Night.

    I won't call Best Film, Best Director or Best Original Screenplay just yet cause I wouldn't be surprised if the Oscar voter's cause of this whole Time's Up movement, throw them the way of Greta Gerwig's Ladybird. Maybe I'm a bit cynical but the Oscar's do love to please whatever movement is "So hot" right now. I'm hoping Three Billboards win for Best Film and Screenplay and Paul Thomas Anderson for Best Director, definitely have more chance of the first two then the last sadly.

    Nothing against Ladybird, but I really don't get the love the film's got with the critics. By no mean's is it a bad film, it's a perfectly fine one but nowhere the masterpiece the critic's painted it as. Although I think she's a fine actress I don't think Saoirse Ronan performance was Oscar worthy, she was far better in Brooklyn, still her greatest performance to date.

    I'm a huge Oldman fan, but DDL's performance is on another level and he should win it hands down. But then Oldman will probably get it for posterities sake and that he deserved it for previous roles and because DDL's has had enough already. But my faith in the Oscars might return if DDL gets it. I'm not sure how anyone could watch phantom thread and not give it to him.


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  • #112
    jam83
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    Looper007 wrote: »
    So after the Bafta's last night, it must be safe to call the acting awards, Gary Oldman and Francis McDormand must be a lock in now of the Best Actor and Actress awards, also Sam Rockwell and Allison Janney also must be across the line. Unless The Oscar voters pull a shock in the last minute, I think these will be the safe bets on Oscar Night.

    I won't call Best Film, Best Director or Best Original Screenplay just yet cause I wouldn't be surprised if the Oscar voter's cause of this whole Time's Up movement, throw them the way of Greta Gerwig's Ladybird. Maybe I'm a bit cynical but the Oscar's do love to please whatever movement is "So hot" right now. I'm hoping Three Billboards win for Best Film and Screenplay and Paul Thomas Anderson for Best Director, definitely have more chance of the first two then the last sadly.

    Nothing against Ladybird, but I really don't get the love the film's got with the critics. By no mean's is it a bad film, it's a perfectly fine one but nowhere the masterpiece the critic's painted it as. Although I think she's a fine actress I don't think Saoirse Ronan performance was Oscar worthy, she was far better in Brooklyn, still her greatest performance to date.

    After her pandering to the American audience by taking the piss with that aer Lingus sketch I hope saoirse Ronan doesnt get the Oscar.


  • #113
    Hoboo
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    Watched 3 Billboards last night and wasn't sold......for best film or best actress. Ok it was good, touched on many subjects such as racial hate, cancer, rape, domestic violence, police brutality, the list goes on........the characters were all in their own right well acted.....but only one was Oscar worthy imho. Sam Rockwell for me was outstanding and certainly worthy of supporting. McDormand although good, I don't think it was Oscar winning, but who instead? Which says a lot. The film itself had a Coen Brothers feel, but didn't live up to expectations. Haven't seen Ladybird yet so can't comment on Saoirse, Gary Oldman I thought was fantastic and well worthy of a win........although need to see DDL. Ill watch them this week.


  • #114
    Looper007
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    jam83 wrote: »
    After her pandering to the American audience by taking the piss with that aer Lingus sketch I hope saoirse Ronan doesnt get the Oscar.

    She won't be getting it, and doesn't deserve it either. I thought Margot Robbie was better, and I would give the nod also to Sally Hawkins. Francis McDormand is by far the deserving winner. I think Ronan's performances in Brooklyn and Atonement were way above of that one in Ladybird.


  • #115
    Looper007
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    I'm a huge Oldman fan, but DDL's performance is on another level and he should win it hands down. But then Oldman will probably get it for posterities sake and that he deserved it for previous roles and because DDL's has had enough already. But my faith in the Oscars might return if DDL gets it. I'm not sure how anyone could watch phantom thread and not give it to him.

    I think it's an overall career nod for Oldman really, one of those like Henry Fonda, Al Pacino and Jeff Bridges, give him one before his career ends type Oscars. I think the case of DDL not winning it is he's won 3 already and they want to pass it around. I agree with you DDL performance is far above Oldman is not funny, and I think Oldman is awesome.


  • #116
    JP Liz V1
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    I wonder will Ryan Seacrest be doing the red carpet for E
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  • #117
    Rjd2
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    https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-oscar-for-best-picture-goes-to-something-you-probably-didnt-see-1519913515?mod=e2tw

    Not the most ground breaking of articles, but its interesting the oscars have got slightly more niche over the years. It probably also explains why ratings continue to plunge.


  • #118
    JP Liz V1
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    Warren Beatty and Faye Dunaway will once again present the award for Best Picture during Sunday’s Oscars
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  • #119
    corcaigh07
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    Any dark horse tips for the Oscars tonight?

    I feel something unexpected will happen tonight, more because of #metoo, trump, Weinstein etc that the actual movies themselves.


  • #120
    Tipsy McSwagger
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    Not one outstanding film up for best picture.


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  • #121
    NinetyTwoTeam
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    I loved Ladybird but Saoirse hasn't got a prayer, McDormand is an absolute lock for Best actress, as is Oldman for best actor, and Del Toro for best director.

    Ladybird will go home totally empty-handed.

    Can't believe A Ghost Story wasn't nominated for best cinematography and best score, and Good Time for best score and best screenplay.

    A Ghost Story had the most beautiful photography, every shot was like a painting and dripping with atmosphere, and was such an original piece of art. I didn't think the cinematography in Bladerunner was much better than the typical blockbuster film and it's a heavy favorite to win.


  • #122
    Banjaxed82
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    It's not a great year. As far as best pic goes, I have only seen Shape of Water, The Post, Dunkirk, Phantom Thread, Get Out & 3 Bill Boards but (pound for pound) Dunkirk would be my choice.


  • #123
    HandsomeBob
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    NinetyTwoTeam wrote: »
    I loved Ladybird but Saoirse hasn't got a prayer, McDormand is an absolute lock for Best actress, as is Oldman for best actor, and Del Toro for best director.

    Ladybird will go home totally empty-handed.

    https://www.theguardian.com/film/ng-interactive/2018/mar/03/oscars-so-right

    Anything is possible in the current climate.

    It's not just about performance/execution anymore, with "relevance" and "having something to say" being major factors now.

    In those circumstances Three Billboards (given the backlash), Dunkirk and Darkest Hour could go home with nowt while Get Out and Ladybird could cause a shock.


  • #124
    budgemook
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    A few outside bets (according to the bookies).
    Actor - Daniel Day Lewis
    Director - Greta Gerwig
    Song - Mystery of Love
    Cinematography - Mudbound
    Supporting Actor - Woody Harrelson


  • #125
    JP Liz V1
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    I think Get Out or LadyBird will take Best Picture or Director, shock surprise winner
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  • #126
    Arghus
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    I also have this feeling in my waters that Get Out is going to sneak away with one of the big ones.


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  • #127
    johnny_ultimate
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    Howdy all,

    While you're waiting for the show to kick off, just wanted to flag our own film awards are now open for nominations - so if you have any particular favourites likely to get snubbed tonight (I'm still a bit ****ing peeved The Florida Project didn't get nominated in Best Picture, frankly) please pop on over and show them some love :)

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=480


  • #128
    Banjaxed82
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    Arghus wrote: »
    I also have this feeling in my waters that Get Out is going to sneak away with one of the big ones.

    It will win best original screenplay. It's a category that very often has the "independent" film they would like to give the top prize to but this category seems to have to be its substitute.


  • #129
    Wellyd
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    So annoyed that the awards are only being shown on sky movies


  • #130
    johnny_ultimate
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    This is the rare year where I'd be pleased to see more than half of the Best Picture nominees win - Call Me By Your Name, Lady Bird, Phantom Thread, Get Out and Dunkirk are all worthy of celebration, albeit each for very different reasons. I'd be particularly pleased with any of the first three in particulars.

    Sadly, I think it's the two I didn't really like - The Shape of Water and Three Billboards... - that are looking like the favourites. Outside of them, Get Out could sweep in with a win after its Independent Spirit success: I don't think it's the best film nominated, but a very poppy genre film winning would be a welcome change of pace.

    I have yet to see Darkest Hour, mind, but that's been a conscious decision :)


  • #131
    markc91
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    Thoughts on this? Anything look dodgy? 3.3 odds


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  • #132
    Outlaw Pete
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    Anyone having a bet?

    Was tempted by Three Billboards at a shade under Evens to get Best Picture:

    https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/special-bets/market/1.132838659


  • #133
    markc91
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    Suppossed leaks ;)


  • #134
    JP Liz V1
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    Kimmel's opening segment was bad
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  • #135
    PTH2009
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    markc91 wrote: »
    Suppossed leaks ;)

    money can be won I'll tell ya that


  • #136
    shazzerman
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    markc91 wrote: »
    Suppossed leaks ;)
    Proved fake already, with Darkest Hour getting Makeup/Hair


  • #137
    Outlaw Pete
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    shazzerman wrote: »
    Proved fake already, with Darkest Hour getting Makeup/Hair

    Aye, and Beauty & The Beast didn't win for Costume Design either.


  • #138
    markc91
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    Yep Bull****


  • #139
    Outlaw Pete
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    This song is crap.


  • #140
    larchielads
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    I picked out 10 bets for 10 EUR acc just for laughs


  • #141
    _Dara_
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    markc91 wrote: »
    Suppossed leaks ;)

    Has all the big ones right so far. If it’s indicative, I’m surprised at Best Actor. He was nothing special.


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  • #142
    _Dara_
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    _Dara_ wrote: »
    Has all the big ones right so far. If it’s indicative, I’m surprised at Best Actor. He was nothing special.

    Never mind, it was wrong. :)


  • #143
    markc91
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    markc91 wrote: »
    Thoughts on this? Anything look dodgy? 3.3 odds

    Winner :cool:


  • #144
    Outlaw Pete
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    In the last 15 minutes 'Three Billboards' has drifted out from odds-on to 2/1!

    And 'Shape of Water' has been backed in from 3/1 to 8/11!!

    https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/special-bets/market/1.132838659


  • #145
    Outlaw Pete
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    Someone was in the know.


  • #146
    DavidLyons_
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    "Meryl, if you do it everybody else will....." **vomits**


  • #147
    HandsomeBob
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    Yeah Frances let herself down with a pandering speech that did nothing to dissuade the detractors of the film.

    McDonagh seems to have an attitude of "fcuk em" which really is the best attitude to adapt in this situation. He knows he can't win if he tries to engage.

    Oldman handled his speech well in comparison by avoiding all reference because he knew any kind of pandering would have backfired spectacularly.


  • #148
    _Dara_
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    Frances seemed a bit demented during her speech. Anyhoo, it’s all a bit divisive, isn’t it?


  • #149
    El Duda
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    According to some people on here, Gary Oldman and Del Toro should've point bank refused their awards as they have made better films in the past.

    Funny how neither of them agreed.


  • #150
    Blazer
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    DavidLyons_ wrote: »
    "Meryl, if you do it everybody else will....." **vomits**

    The hypocrisy of women in Hollywood is unreal.


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  • #151
    _Dara_
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    I wondered if Gary Oldman would mention his ex-wife, Lesley Manville, in his speech. She was a Best Supporting Actress nominee. Nope! :P I guess they were married a long, long time ago. Must have been a bit weird for them both.


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