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06-03-2019, 16:28   #16
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I just received the record of the "fees" which I was paid by the SEC for examining and superintending in 2018. On the 'Gross' income I paid a tax rate of 54.3% (57.4% when you include the PRSI contribution) and on the 'Gross Taxable' I paid a tax rate of 60.6% (64.1% when you include the PRSI contribution). So, I'm coming home with, at best, 42.6% of the money the SEC officially pays me, or 35.9% of the money the SEC officially pays me. Anybody thinking of working for the SEC should do their sums first.

What exactly accounts for the difference in both rates? I surmise much (all?) of it is a pension contribution but if so, it's likely I'll be paying more tax on that at retirement? Which of these two rates most closely reflects my real tax rate when working for the SEC?

Also, I notice that the PRSI info says my PRSI class is "S1", which this article says is a class for 'Self-employed individuals aged between 16 years & 66 with earnings of €5,000 or more per annum must pay Class S PRSI.' So, it seems that we are blessed to get self-employed status without the benefits of tax dodging that marks that sector (a special 'Hello' to every cash-economy loving tradesman I've ever paid). I've received two offers from the SEC to examine so far, but, really, this financial reality is quite insulting to be euphemistic about it (just for the record, the people in the SEC with whom I worked were lovely).
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Could you actually contract yourself out to them and give them a quote for how much you'd charge... and you'd be sorting all the tax out yourself.
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As a matter of interest, is it possible for a graduate who's not yet a qualified teacher to correct scripts for the SEC? I have a level 8 degree in two curricular subjects and hope to do a PME in the coming few years. Apart from the extra income, it would be useful experience.
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As a matter of interest, is it possible for a graduate who's not yet a qualified teacher to correct scripts for the SEC? I have a level 8 degree in two curricular subjects and hope to do a PME in the coming few years. Apart from the extra income, it would be useful experience.
Give it a shot. Depends how desperate they are and what subject.
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Just been appointed by the SEC to correct a subject that requires online correcting! Sounds interesting - has anyone out there any experience of doing this, and if so, how was it please?
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They have moved to this in a number of subjects I believe. Does away with all the posting palaver. We had a thread about it before. Let me see can I find it.

**edit**Can't find it, but the online marking gets a mention in this thread.
Overwhelmingly positive reaction from those who had worked under the old and new systems.

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What subjects have online correcting now? English, French, ....?
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I heard LC Biology was going online.
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Junior English and science both definitely being corrected online not sure about other subjects.
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Is it true for online marking you don't correct complete papers, but rather sets of questions? i.e. correct all the Q1's in one go, then a bunch of Q2's.
Might mean a lot more borderline grades.... not that markers would ever try and avoid borderline grades of course
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Is it true for online marking you don't correct complete papers, but rather sets of questions? i.e. correct all the Q1's in one go, then a bunch of Q2's.
Might mean a lot more borderline grades.... not that markers would ever try and avoid borderline grades of course
Yes. They argue that it gives a more accurate grade.
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Just been appointed by the SEC to correct a subject that requires online correcting! Sounds interesting - has anyone out there any experience of doing this, and if so, how was it please?
I loved it. 15 days work INLCUDING CONFERENCE, no totals, no post office.

But I know others who hates it. Chief and advising examiners can see exactly when you’re logged in and can track all that information. They can also see how long you spend on each question. Numerous advising examiners moderate your work, when you’re more than two marks out you get locked out of that question, and your advising examiner has to ring to talk you through the issue before they unlock it. But your advising examiner didn’t necessarily moderate it so sometimes they have nothing to say because they agree with you not whoever checked your work. You’re also waiting for your advising examiner to unlock your question, which can be frustrating if you’re waiting for that to finish for the day.

But none of that bothered me much. Probably because I start at 7 am and finish early. Many of those who hated it were people who traditionally marked in the evening or tried to work other jobs. There’s no hiding with online.
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I loved it. 15 days work INLCUDING CONFERENCE, no totals, no post office.

But I know others who hates it. Chief and advising examiners can see exactly when you’re logged in and can track all that information. They can also see how long you spend on each question. Numerous advising examiners moderate your work, when you’re more than two marks out you get locked out of that question, and your advising examiner has to ring to talk you through the issue before they unlock it. But your advising examiner didn’t necessarily moderate it so sometimes they have nothing to say because they agree with you not whoever checked your work. You’re also waiting for your advising examiner to unlock your question, which can be frustrating if you’re waiting for that to finish for the day.

But none of that bothered me much. Probably because I start at 7 am and finish early. Many of those who hated it were people who traditionally marked in the evening or tried to work other jobs. There’s no hiding with online.

Interesting.

Do you still get the same number of scripts? Are you correcting fulls scripts question by question, or just way more of certain questions.

How do you 'correct' online? i.e. how do you mark the correct part of the answer?
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Interesting.

Do you still get the same number of scripts? Are you correcting fulls scripts question by question, or just way more of certain questions.

How do you 'correct' online? i.e. how do you mark the correct part of the answer?
It was junior cycle so it’s hard to compare to junior cert, but I marked around 600 or so.

It’s the equivalent of full scripts but not necessarily the same students. 60 x Q1, 60 x Q2, etc. until you’ve 60 scripts marked. You clicked into Q1 on the program and mark them. Then onto the next. It’s very easy.
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