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Pyongyang · 20-10-2011 10:49pm #1

Lovely stuff! Is Progear a Naomi game? Been looking for that game for forever and can't find it anywhere.

Congratulations on not one but two cabs!

Andrew76 · 20-10-2011 10:53pm

CPS-2 afaik.

Pyongyang · 20-10-2011 10:54pm

Andrew76 wrote: »

CPS-2 afaik.

I'm assuming I've as much hope of finding one as turkey's voting for Christmas?

unky chop chop · 20-10-2011 10:55pm

Pyongyang wrote: »

Lovely stuff! Is Progear a Naomi game? Been looking for that game for forever and can't find it anywhere.
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Progear is CPS2...I look every day for a board in the hope some one will actually sell it for a decent price.NO CHANCE

Same story with Mars Matrix

Pyongyang · 20-10-2011 10:57pm

unky chop chop wrote: »

Progear is CPS2...I look every day for a board in the hope some one will actually sell it for a decent price.NO CHANCE

(Sorry to stray off topic) What's the going rate for one? I can't even find that game, even at specialist places.

Steve X2 · 20-10-2011 11:01pm

Pyongyang wrote: »

I'm assuming I've as much hope of finding one as turkey's voting for Christmas?

If you want progear I can ask (this is gonna sound douchy) my contact in Japan.
They put me onto that guy who sold me the large collection of CPS-2 stuff a few weeks back, which included Progear.

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unky chop chop · 20-10-2011 11:01pm

Round about 250 euros..Maybe little less.
They pop up on ebay every so often but get snapped up for crazy money

unky chop chop · 20-10-2011 11:06pm

Steve SI wrote: »

If you want progear I can ask (this is gonna sound douchy) my contact in Japan.
They put me onto that guy who sold me the large collection of CPS-2 stuff a few weeks back, which included Progear.

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Steve, can you get prices on all his cps2 stuff as i want them all

No really though..Mars matrix,Gigawing and Progear.

Pyongyang · 20-10-2011 11:07pm

Figured it would be crazy money. SteveSI did your 984,007 CPS2 boards arrive from Nippon yet? (Again sorry to stray OT)

Pyongyang · 20-10-2011 11:08pm

unky chop chop wrote: »

Steve, can you get prices on all his cps2 stuff as i want them all
No really though..Mars matrix,Gigawing and Progear.

I've seen a couple of Mars Matrix CPS2 go on eBay recently for around £80-£100 plus shipping. One was a black version, or was it blue? I forget.

unky chop chop · 20-10-2011 11:14pm

Probably a grey one with no motherboard.If it was black I am an angry man

Pyongyang · 20-10-2011 11:18pm

unky chop chop wrote: »

Probably a grey one with no motherboard.If it was black I am an angry man

Must have been black, it most definitely wasn't grey. Think the seller was in Mexico. Do a completed items search on eBay as it was a recent auction. I nearly went for it too but wasn't sure what the deal was with different colour CPS2 boards.

Steve X2 · 20-10-2011 11:18pm

I got Progear for a steal, 12000 yen

The guy doesn't sell online at all.
I had to fly out to pick and buy the stuff, but it was so worth it.

He used to be a manager for some arcades, or so the story goes.
I'm not really sure what's true and what's Bull***. But either way the boards are legit and I was able to test all 20 or so of them before buying.

I'll ask my contact over there to call into the guy today if possible(its early morning there now) and see what the story is.

My CPS-2 boards should be here early next week by the way Pyongyang.

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Steve X2 · 20-10-2011 11:20pm

Pyongyang wrote: »

Must have been black, it most definitely wasn't grey. Think the seller was in Mexico. Do a completed items search on eBay as it was a recent auction. I nearly went for it too but wasn't sure what the deal was with different colour CPS2 boards.

Black boards are all in one,Motherboard and game, I've one coming in that large order.

Pyongyang · 20-10-2011 11:23pm

You do realize we need photos of them all stacked up don't you?

Oh, and you have to sniff them all too. *wibble*

Steve X2 · 20-10-2011 11:26pm

Pyongyang wrote: »

You do realize we need photos of them all stacked up don't you?

Oh, and you have to sniff them all too. *wibble*

I'll stack them all nice and high and get the girlfriend in a bikini standing beside them, just like in those high end car mags

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Pyongyang · 20-10-2011 11:34pm

unky chop chop · 20-10-2011 11:36pm

does your contact look like this.

Sells CPS2 boards from under the table.
He also looks Hollowed...I might get some +1 etus flasks and humanity off him as well

o1s1n · 21-10-2011 8:51am

I've seen Progear boards sell for about £100. Wouldn't be paying too much more than that myself.

Beautiful Naomi stuff Kerbdog! Going from no cabs to two at once is quite an achievement!

Andrew76 · 21-10-2011 9:31am

So rather than muck up Kerbdog's lovely Naomi thread here's a place to chat about all things arcade.

To start it off - managed to hook up the 360 to the cab last night via Sync Strike and Extron RGB 580xi and the shmups look delicious! Audio/Video switcher works like a charm too. However, I think I'll need to house alot of those gubbins outside the cab, maybe get a small box of some sort and feed the cables into the cab. A cab owners work is never done! :pac:

@Pyongyang: If you like Progear you should defo check out Akai Katana, same type of horizontal shmup, excellent so it is.

purplec · 21-10-2011 9:07pm

Just convert a cheap cps2 to a progear.

Pyongyang · 21-10-2011 9:12pm

Andrew76 wrote: »

@Pyongyang: If you like Progear you should defo check out Akai Katana, same type of horizontal shmup, excellent so it is.

I'd LOVE to get Akai Katana. Do you have the LE? I don't have an NTSC-J XBOX360 though.

As for Progear, I've made a couple of enquiries today...

Myrddin · 21-10-2011 9:32pm

purplec wrote: »

Just convert a cheap cps2 to a progear.

As in make a bootleg? Same thing as a repro...& we love those round here.

Pyongyang · 21-10-2011 9:49pm

What sticks do you guys (and the possible odd lady) like to use in your console setups or cabs?

I'm contemplating getting the Seimitsu LS-56-01 stick but I hear it's a toss up between that and the LS-32 series for shooting games.

What do you like?

Retr0gamer · 21-10-2011 10:10pm

Seimetsu for me. Prefer it for shooters and beat'em ups.

unky chop chop · 21-10-2011 10:36pm

Sanwa JLF for life.
Best stick for fighters and it ain't bad for shooters.
I here Seimitsu is best if you play shooters but I've yet to try one on a SHUMP.
Too tight for fighters though.

Steve X2 · 21-10-2011 11:45pm

I've Sanwa sticks and buttons in my candy and very happy with them.

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unky chop chop · 22-10-2011 12:28am

Same here.Although there is always a clear cut divide between sticks,buttons wise,Sanwa are the only choice
Delicate and responsive to the touch. There's too much resistance on Seimitsus.
My fingers hurt after extended play.
They feel like Happ buttons

Saying that I have Happ Competition buttons(the convex ones) on my woody.
After taking the springs out they feel quality

CathalDublin · 22-10-2011 12:56am

Sanwa JLW with octagonal restrictors

Pyongyang · 22-10-2011 10:28am

Mixed bag there. What's the story with JLF, I thought that was loved by fighting game fans only? Is the throw on that really long?

Andrew76 · 22-10-2011 11:52am

Seimitsu LS-32-01 sticks and Sanwa buttons on my cab. Rarely play fighters tbh.

Pyongyang · 22-10-2011 11:56am

Andrew76 wrote: »

Seimitsu LS-32-01 sticks and Sanwa buttons on my cab. Rarely play fighters tbh.

Those are the ones regularly fighting for supremacy with the LS-56-01 sticks amongst shooting game fans right? How do you find the 32's? Are they really accurate with a short throw?

Andrew76 · 22-10-2011 12:03pm

Pyongyang wrote: »

Those are the ones regularly fighting for supremacy with the LS-56-01 sticks amongst shooting game fans right? How do you find the 32's? Are they really accurate with a short throw?

The 32's are good enough for my mediocre skills anyway. Never tried the 56 but the shaft looks a bit long for my liking (...). If you want super tight throws for the shmups then we need to wait for FrancoB to start mass producing his supa-tight parts.

Pyongyang · 22-10-2011 12:10pm

Wow that's an interesting read there. Looks like the guy has put stacks of effort in to those LS-32's. It'll be interesting to see just how tight the throw ends up being.

Personally I think the shorter the throw the better. It's why I like my AES and XE-1 Pro HE sticks. In contrast, and as an example, the Virtua Stick Pro I have doesn't really do anything for me, the throw feels very long and the buttons a bit too clunky. Yet it's said to be an awesome stick... maybe for fighting games.

Andrew76 · 22-10-2011 12:17pm

Pyongyang wrote: »

Wow that's an interesting read there. Looks like the guy has put stacks of effort in to those LS-32's. It'll be interesting to see just how tight the throw ends up being.

Personally I think the shorter the throw the better. It's why I like my AES and XE-1 Pro HE sticks. In contrast, and as an example, the Virtua Stick Pro I have doesn't really do anything for me, the throw feels very long and the buttons a bit too clunky. Yet it's said to be an awesome stick... maybe for fighting games.

This tight (the purple one)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REDMeol7dG8

Pyongyang · 22-10-2011 12:21pm

Maybe I'm being super fussy but that throw still looks a little on the long side to me.

Andrew76 · 22-10-2011 12:39pm

Lol really? Looks fairly tight to me but I'm no expert I suppose. I do wonder what it would be like playing other arcade games with it though (not fighters) - would it be too tight? Maybe it better suits a dedicated shmup cab.

Pyongyang · 22-10-2011 12:52pm

Maybe platform games might be OK but i'd say it's useless for fighting games. The improvement over the stock stick does look great though. Likewise I'm no expert. Maybe I'm looking at as short a throw as possible but it would be almost unusuable so in essence maybe that throw distance is spot on?

I'm trying to find videos of the LS-56 throw but they seem to be non-existent. Dying to see the throw on one of those as they appear to be the shooting game stick of choice.

Andrew76 · 22-10-2011 1:00pm

2min 38 into the vid below has an LS-56-01, looks pretty tight actually.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVNbMXzVn3U

unky chop chop · 23-10-2011 4:26pm

If you want your stick tighter you can add another spring.
Did it with my jlf and added a LS32 spring.Took it off though,a bit to much for my liking.
Also if you feel your stick is losing its tension..just take it aprt and stretch the spring.Works wonders for short term fix

Steve X2 · 25-10-2011 1:04am

Anyone know how to remove cables from AMP UP connectors?

Is there a knack to it or do I just pull the crap out of it.

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Edit:
Never mind, I got it.

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Steve X2 · 25-10-2011 4:19am

Finally got those proper arcade speakers from an Egret 2 installed in my Egret 3 (at 4am, why not :rolleyes:).
Some difference in the sound that's for sure compared to the rubbish 5 euro speakers originally installed in it.

Now, the next job. Installing the new monitor.

I think I'll do that within the next 2 days as I just want it done.

I did a weight test tonight and I reckon I can lift and place the monitor into the candy myself once the candy is lying on its back and the old one is out.

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Steve X2 · 25-10-2011 3:25pm

Well, I did it.
I bit the bullet and installed the new monitor in the candy.

It was a heavy fecker to do on my own but I got it in there and hooked up without destroying it or the old monitor.
I guess all those years of weight lifting paid off(all those years, many years ago I should mention

) as I didn't have to put the candy on its back or anything.

When I got the old monitor out I had to stop for a while and clean the inside of the cab, it was mental the amount of dirt that was inside and around the monitor.

I don't think the girlfriend will be too happy with my use of towels but I can live with that.

I decided to not install the new chassis and neck board that Ronnie sent me for the moment to see how it goes.
So far its a million times better and I'll see if I want to install that new chassis at a later date.

I'm still tweaking the pots to get the image as I want it and I'm nearly there.
The new and old monitor are exactly the same model type and number but the new one is in a lot better condition and looks like it only got some light use in its life.

I had an electrician/handy man around this morning to deliver and install a new washing machine.
Turns out he used to be a TV repair guy for 20 years and was able to discharge the monitor for me and give a bit of advice on what to do.

He was even able to offer a few ideas as to what the problem with the old monitor was/is.
The degauss wire/coil that was going around it was setup wrong and hanging off at the bottom and should be very tight around the whole screen and he reckons it just needs to be cable tied back to the screen and it should be a lot better.

Couple of vids(looks a bit flickery but thats just my camera freaking out a bit):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNUC0fZgzlA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNY_zTSaLeg

Few pics:-

The old monitor removed:

New monitor on the chair:

So thats that job done, more or less. Plus I installed the new speakers last night so I'm fairly happy with the cab at the moment.
There's a bit of a hissing sound coming from the speakers every so often but I've tracked it down to the MVS board.
If I give it a little squeeze(on the plastic, not metal) when the speakers are hissing it stops the hiss.
I'll worry about that tomorrow as it shouldn't be that hard to fix or replace the MVS unit.

For right now its a cup of tea and a shower and then some sweet candy cab action later

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Myrddin · 25-10-2011 3:29pm

Nice job, well done

Steve X2 · 25-10-2011 4:01pm

EnterNow wrote: »

Nice job, well done

Cheers,
Now I just need to sell/trade/bin this other arcade monitor as it will just die a death if I have to leave it around for any period of time.

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Pyongyang · 25-10-2011 4:03pm

Blazing Star on an arcade cabinet. I am literally weeping here with joy. I hope to be doing the same on Friday.

Great work by the way Steve, this will come in very useful on Friday as I've to lift my monitor out to help get the cab up my stairs.

Steve X2 · 25-10-2011 4:13pm

Pyongyang wrote: »

Blazing Star on an arcade cabinet. I am literally weeping here with joy. I hope to be doing the same on Friday.

Great work by the way Steve, this will come in very useful on Friday as I've to lift my monitor out to help get the cab up my stairs.

Up the stairs, Ouchy.

I was going to do that but decided the cab look better downstairs in my house.

It's the only retro/arcade thing anyone sees in my house. All the rest is in my man cave.

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Pyongyang · 25-10-2011 4:18pm

Steve SI wrote: »

Up the stairs, Ouchy.

I was going to do that but decided the cab look better downstairs in my house.

It's the only retro/arcade thing anyone sees in my house. All the rest is in my man cave.

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I've been carefully planning my man cave since, well, forever. I've got a space reserved for it on Friday. Should be alright once I can get the monitor out. Bit of elbow grease and she'll be up those stairs in no time...I hope.

Andrew76 · 25-10-2011 4:23pm

Did you say you were going to take the monitor out before lifting it up stairs or leaving it in? If it was me, then once I got it in the door I'd want to test it was alright before moving it upstairs. Not sure how easy that would be considering it's a bit more involved with the parts you have to take off to get it in the door.
If there was any problem with it upstairs I'd want to know if it was something I did or if it arrived like that.

Oh and btw, if EnterNow is going to give you a hand with that then no better man. If he can get a 29inch Trinitron into the attic then the cab will be no bother!

Pyongyang · 25-10-2011 4:39pm

I've a plug near the door so I'll put the CP and base back on, fire it up, test it, clean it and then take the monitor out. As you say, make sure it's all good first.

SteveSI's photos are very useful and have helped me plan a lot better.

Myrddin · 25-10-2011 4:42pm

Andrew76 wrote: »

If he can get a 29inch Trinitron into the attic then the cab will be no bother!

*Shudders at repressed memories of that

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