Killarney Thread

dobman88 · 27-01-2015 11:19pm

Boom__Boom wrote: »

What do folk think about the proposed location for the Killarney Music and Food festival?

http://www.killarneytoday.com/festival-goes-mad-after-half-moon/

Not sure I like the idea of using the National Park for a concert like this.

Anyone know where the Killarney National Park Liaison Group meeting is being held?

Why not the stadium? Fantastic facilities up there now. Liaison group meet in the malton afaik.

Halo Kitty · 28-01-2015 12:21am

dobman88 wrote: »

Why not the stadium? Fantastic facilities up there now. Liaison group meet in the malton afaik.

I have to agree.. There are many other green areas available to the festival promoters who ever they may be. But I think the fact the business people are happy with the proposed festival, and the money it will bring to this town .I fear this proposal will be accepted
I have to wonder who has the best interest in this town, its people, and our national park and wild life..
I do agree with the festival but as a native of Killarney I do not agree with the proposed location.
The national park is owned by the people of Ireland and not just businesses of town.

cottager83 · 30-01-2015 11:23am

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dobman88 · 30-01-2015 2:45pm

cottager83 wrote: »

Folks, can anyone recommend a wedding videographer in or around the Killarney area? Cheers!

Check out Paudie Healy at Evoque Photography. I'm sure he would be able to recommend a good videographer if he doesn't do it. He's relatively new but absolutely top class.

https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=441020625993968&tsid=0.5226768588181585&source=typeahead

siblers · 30-01-2015 5:10pm

I don't think the stadium would work,remember that it is a festival and not a concert. Fitzgerald stadium is too small to handle multiple stages, caterving vans, other entertainment etc. Plus people wouldn't be able to freely walk around inside in the stadium.

dobman88 · 30-01-2015 5:51pm

siblers wrote: »

I don't think the stadium would work,remember that it is a festival and not a concert. Fitzgerald stadium is too small to handle multiple stages, caterving vans, other entertainment etc. Plus people wouldn't be able to freely walk around inside in the stadium.

Thr field they are talking about having it in isn't bigger than the stadium! It's the field across form the Cathedral afaik, next to the playground. It used to be used as a soccer and GAA pitch.

At least I think that's the place they are on about having it. I could be way off though.

Officer Giggles · 30-01-2015 6:14pm

Could someone recommend self catering accommodation in Killarney, have looked at Killarney holiday village and the glen eagle but they're booked on the days I want

xxyyzz · 30-01-2015 6:20pm

dobman88 wrote: »

Thr field they are talking about having it in isn't bigger than the stadium! It's the field across form the Cathedral afaik, next to the playground. It used to be used as a soccer and GAA pitch.

At least I think that's the place they are on about having it. I could be way off though.

It's strange that they will let this take place in the national park. Yet when suggestions like creating mountainbiking trails in the park which has the potential to be the best mtb location in Ireland and the UK, the powers that be would run a mile. The festival would cause a way more damage and in the long term bring in far less money than a recognised mountainbiking trail centre. The trails in Ballyhoura bring in over a million a year in adventure tourism to a region that doesn't have anything like the amenities that Killarney has. Sometimes it's a frustrating country :rolleyes:

dobman88 · 30-01-2015 6:24pm

Officer Giggles wrote: »

Could someone recommend self catering accommodation in Killarney, have looked at Killarney holiday village and the glen eagle but they're booked on the days I want

What's on in town on your dates? There are certain things that book out 12 months in advance to return guests like The Rally, Bike Fest, Ring of Kerry cycle etc. I stayed in the Rookery Mews apartments before when there wqs work being done on my house. Owned by a lovely family who literally couldn't have done more for us. They look old in the pics but they are top class imo http://www.killarney-selfcatering.com

Could try the malton too but you'd pay an arm and a leg for there. There's also Park Place although I've never stayed so can't comment http://www.parkplacekillarney.com

siblers · 30-01-2015 7:53pm

dobman88 wrote: »

Thr field they are talking about having it in isn't bigger than the stadium! It's the field across form the Cathedral afaik, next to the playground. It used to be used as a soccer and GAA pitch.

At least I think that's the place they are on about having it. I could be way off though.

Well the ground around there would be considerabley bigger than the actual playing pitch, I know you have the terraces etc but they aren't really suited for a festival. Still seems kinda small though

kerry4sam · 31-01-2015 1:11am

Well the Dept of Heritage et al is seeking further info regarding our National Park and the impact this 2-day event could have on it.

Read more here.

Some Positive News imo that they're doing their job. Should any damage be done but the Dept. has given the all clear I'd imagine words would be had.

No final decision yet anywhoo,
kerry4sam

Halo Kitty · 31-01-2015 1:38am

Should the National Park be used for a commercial venture..
That is the big question?, and if this festival gets permission to use the park, what protection or guarantee that another commercial event will not be requested..
So much for Killarney chambers of Tourism and Commerce..drop the Tourism title.

siblers · 31-01-2015 7:40pm

Halo Kitty wrote: »

Should the National Park be used for a commercial venture..
That is the big question?, and if this festival gets permission to use the park, what protection or guarantee that another commercial event will not be requested..
So much for Killarney chambers of Tourism and Commerce..drop the Tourism title.

Is the festival itself not a way of getting more tourists to Killarney?

Halo Kitty · 31-01-2015 8:55pm

Indeed this festival will attract people to the town but at what cost to the national park.. And what guarantee is in place to protect this beautiful area..
Why choose the Park.. And why was Hegartys field rejected..Was the race course even considered..
I am in favour of a festival but I don't think it is appropriate it being held in our National Park..

dobman88 · 31-01-2015 9:36pm

Halo Kitty wrote: »

Indeed this festival will attract people to the town but at what cost to the national park.. And what guarantee is in place to protect this beautiful area..
Why choose the Park.. And why was Hegartys field rejected..Was the race course even considered..
I am in favour of a festival but I don't think it is appropriate it being held in our National Park..

Tbf, it's on the very edge of the park in a very public area beside a busy public road. It's not like they're having it in a remote part of the park where the wildlife and habitats would be disrupted.

Fwiw, I agree with you that the racecourse or similar would be better but I presume they're trying to keep it as central as possible.

Radio5 · 01-02-2015 1:28pm

Getting more tourists into Killarney was also mentioned as the reason when it was proposed to take land from the National Park for a golf course about 20 years ago. Thank God that never went ahead.

Glad to see the Dept doing their job. Probably under pressure after the Skellig Fiasco.

Lia_lia · 01-02-2015 9:43pm

That's the field where I bring my dog for a run!

I don't like the idea of it going into the national park at all..

iambrazil · 04-02-2015 12:39pm

here's an Irish Times article on how some of the smaller musical acts are being booked for the Festival of Food & Music.

dobman88 · 04-02-2015 2:41pm

iambrazil wrote: »

here's an Irish Times article on how some of the smaller musical acts are being booked for the Festival of Food & Music.

Just saw that. Absolute disgrace! I have some mates in a band called Valerra and they were told to sell 100 tickets if they wanted to.play the small stage during the day when nobody would be around. This "festival" sounds like an absolute sham now. Could learn a lot from Bike Fest.

Axel Lamp · 04-02-2015 3:20pm

Killarney Chamber of Commerce* covering themselves in glory once again. It's all about the cash with them, regardless of the PR or impact of having a 2 day gig in the national park.

*or 'Killarney Chamber of Tourism and Commerce' by its official propagandistic title, but we all know it's about the commerce not the tourism.

Masala · 04-02-2015 3:40pm

Axel Lamp wrote: »

Killarney Chamber of Commerce* covering themselves in glory once again. It's all about the cash with them, regardless of the PR or impact of having a 2 day gig in the national park.
.

Am I missing something here..... what exactly is the problem???

Its an empty field..... I am sure all concerned are getting their palms rubbed with few Euro including the National Park. Bike-Fest is good for town and am sure that this will bring a good element as well. Hardly going to cause permanent psychological damage to the deer population.

The field is probably covered in dog-**** as it stands.. and that worse!

Axel Lamp · 04-02-2015 4:04pm

Masala wrote: »

Am I missing something here..... what exactly is the problem???

Its an empty field..... I am sure all concerned are getting their palms rubbed with few Euro including the National Park. Bike-Fest is good for town and am sure that this will bring a good element as well. Hardly going to cause permanent psychological damage to the dear population.

The field is probably covered in dog-**** as it stands.. and that worse!

How do you know the impact this will have on the dear [sic] population? The national park is not suitable for a music festival, it is a national wildlife park.

Not sure why you brought bike fest into this. It's a non-point.

Masala · 04-02-2015 4:09pm

Axel Lamp wrote: »

How do you know the impact this will have on the dear [sic] population? The national park is not suitable for a music festival, it is a national wildlife park.

Not sure why you brought bike fest into this. It's a non-point.

So....what exactly is the problem??

Halo Kitty · 04-02-2015 4:17pm

The national park is a tourist attraction and also a place where locals treasure , it has never been used for a commercial venture..as this is clearly what this festival is.. (Moved from Westport due to financial woos).
What long term benefit would this bring to the people of Killarney, and why not locate this event in areas suggested..

Masala · 04-02-2015 4:55pm

Halo Kitty wrote: »

The national park is a tourist attraction and also a place where locals treasure , it has never been used for a commercial venture..as this is clearly what this festival is.. (Moved from Westport due to financial woos).
What long term benefit would this bring to the people of Killarney, and why not locate this event in areas suggested..

First of all... what does any festival bring to Killarney 'long-term'?? What does the Munster Final bring to Killarney....??? This festivals brings the same as other festivals... people to fill the B&B's,people to eat in the restaurants, people to use the Garveys and Taxis, people to shop in the shops. In effect.. they bring plenty of money to spend in the town!

As to no commercial uses of the National Park....there has been Marquees in Muckross House holding private events. Ross Castle was closed recently for a private event....

And what part of that proposed field is a Tourist Attraction??? The poster above says she runs her dogs around it.

Axel Lamp · 04-02-2015 6:01pm

Masala wrote: »

So....what exactly is the problem??

Right I see you need some help here: my point is that the National Park is not a suitable venue for a music festival. Is that sufficiently clear enough for you?

Masala · 04-02-2015 6:12pm

Axel Lamp wrote: »

Right I see you need some help here: my point is that the National Park is not a suitable venue for a music festival. Is that sufficiently clear enough for you?

... ya... explain it to me like I'm a 6 year old??? the question again is 'Why is it not suitable'??? Never mind a simple reply '...cos its not'. I guess it's not clear enough for me.....

Halo Kitty · 04-02-2015 6:41pm

This is not just an empty field. This proposed festival area is protected by the Dept of Heritage and Environment, for the sake of our flora and fauna.
What facilities are in place for a festival of this size to take place in such an area, and what protection measures are taken to protect our heritage and environment
As for the Munster final taking place in Killarney every second year it is played in a designated area especially for such an event.
As suggested there are other areas in this town for such a festival to take place, the national park is not one of them..

Boom__Boom · 04-02-2015 6:42pm

Some feedback the festival have received on their pay-to-play scheme

Seriously disingenuous statement by the organisers here from what I can see

https://www.facebook.com/WestportFestivalOfMusicAndPerformingArts/posts/850301158363050

A weekend ticket for an adult is €82.10 for a one day ticket and a €148.10 for a two day ticket when the booking fee in included, especially compared to the price of other festivals. At these price the tickets looks seriously poor value for the lineup.

Boom__Boom · 04-02-2015 6:53pm

Also I thought this article relating to the growth in the number of tourists coming to Killarney to see the deer (especially in rutting season) is very relevant.

Having met some folk last October who were in Killarney to see the deer I definitely think it's something that should be encouraged a lot more. These tourists were very environmentally conscious and were here in the off-season/quiet period and didn't particularly care about poor weather.

I think huge numbers of locals don't even realise how close the wildlife, especially the deer, get to the centre of town.

http://www.killarneytoday.com/oh-deer-major-rutting-spin-off/

Axel Lamp · 04-02-2015 7:33pm

Masala wrote: »

... ya... explain it to me like I'm a 6 year old??? the question again is 'Why is it not suitable'??? Never mind a simple reply '...cos its not'. I guess it's not clear enough for me.....

You are insulting smart six year olds if you are incapable of understanding why a music festival isn't suitable for a national park.

The clue is in the name: National Park.

Masala · 04-02-2015 8:04pm

Axel Lamp wrote: »

You are insulting smart six year olds if you are incapable of understanding why a music festival isn't suitable for a national park.

The clue is in the name: National Park.

....another useless answer.

Its in a field....not spread across 33,000 acres or so. Rolling Stones could put on a Free concert in Hyde Park. The Pope came to Phoenix Park and brought 1m people with him. So... majors events in National Parks have occurred.

Are you a troll in disguise???

dobman88 · 04-02-2015 8:25pm

Masala wrote: »

Are you a troll in disguise???

I was just about to ask you the same thing!

Axel Lamp · 04-02-2015 8:37pm

Boom__Boom wrote: »

Some feedback the festival have received on their pay-to-play scheme

Seriously disingenuous statement by the organisers here from what I can see

https://www.facebook.com/WestportFestivalOfMusicAndPerformingArts/posts/850301158363050

This post has now been taken down due to the backlash they received. I wonder will they now bring back the stage but remove the '50 tickets or no play' requirement.

Axel Lamp · 04-02-2015 8:44pm

Masala wrote: »

....another useless answer.

Its in a field....not spread across 33,000 acres or so. Rolling Stones could put on a Free concert in Hyde Park. The Pope came to Phoenix Park and brought 1m people with him. So... majors events in National Parks have occurred.

Are you a troll in disguise???

Neither the Phoenix Park nor Hyde Park (in London btw) are Irish National Parks.

Neither of them have the varied ecological life that Killarney National Park has.

Halo Kitty · 04-02-2015 8:47pm

How can you compare the popes visit to the Phoneix Park to facilitate 1m people, to a commercial event as a music and food festival in an area that is unspoilt by human intervention..
To you it maybe just a field, to me it represent beauty and all that the name of Killarney holds true.
I hope the dept of Heritage listen to the voices of the people and their research into this, and not the just those involved in the world of profit..

Halo Kitty · 04-02-2015 8:57pm

Axel Lamp wrote: »

This post has now been taken down due to the backlash they received. I wonder will they now bring back the stage but remove the '50 tickets or no play' requirement.

I think they should to counteract the negative publicity this has received.. I think Mundy, Damien Dempsey and other now well established Irish artist should speak on this..and support these up and coming acts..
I think the promoters did not reckon on the backlash and publicity this would bring..

Masala · 04-02-2015 9:01pm

Axel Lamp wrote: »

Neither the Phoenix Park nor Hyde Park (in London btw) are Irish National Parks.

Neither of them have the varied ecological life that Killarney National Park has.

Well I will have to bow to your superier knowledge here... Phoenix park is not an Irish National Park?????

dobman88 · 04-02-2015 10:00pm

Masala wrote: »

Well I will have to bow to your superier knowledge here... Phoenix park is not an Irish National Park?????

Just give up.

http://www.npws.ie/nationalparks/

Masala · 04-02-2015 10:04pm

dobman88 wrote: »

Just give up.

http://www.npws.ie/nationalparks/

I stand corrected.. And my apologies to Axel for earlier posts

I guess I am never too old to learn!!

Graces7 · 05-02-2015 4:29pm

Thankful so many are as appalled as we are re the proposed festival. How good would security be for the rest of the park from that field? Did anyone really think mountain bike trails should be there?.. I read somewhere that there was to be a meeting re the impact on wild life; any chance that will stop it? Hope so.

xxyyzz · 05-02-2015 4:46pm

Graces7 wrote: »

Thankful so many are as appalled as we are re the proposed festival. How good would security be for the rest of the park from that field? Did anyone really think mountain bike trails should be there?.. I read somewhere that there was to be a meeting re the impact on wild life; any chance that will stop it? Hope so.

Mountainbike trails would have a lot less impact than tens of thousands of people walking around at a festival. They are also permanent rather than a one-off festival meaning they will be bringing extra business to the town for years. The park is riddled with mtb trails anyway if you know where to look. Why not make some money out of it?

Boom__Boom · 05-02-2015 6:55pm

Had a bit of a look to see who was behind this festival and it seems the main man is a promoter called Darryl Downey at Rag Lane Entertainment.

I put his name into Google and the very first search result is for his name was a Stubbs Gazette article about people not paying for using

One high-profile target is promoter Darryl Downey of Rag Lane Entertainment, who was slapped with a €144,000 judgment in July for failing to pay fees for concerts he organised.

Really sounds like someone who is concerned with musicians and performers as opposed to just using them to make as much cash as possible for himself.

http://www.stubbsgazette.ie/news/rights-body-cracks-down-on-unlicensed-music

Graces7 · 06-02-2015 7:19am

xxyyzz wrote: »

Mountainbike trails would have a lot less impact than tens of thousands of people walking around at a festival. They are also permanent rather than a one-off festival meaning they will be bringing extra business to the town for years. The park is riddled with mtb trails anyway if you know where to look. Why not make some money out of it?

Read the link re National Parks please ...wincing at your post...a basic total lack of understanding.. will send your post on to friends in the NP staff also...dangerous. Not about making money.. about wild life

xxyyzz · 06-02-2015 12:29pm

Graces7 wrote: »

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Read the link re National Parks please ...wincing at your post...a basic total lack of understanding.. will send your post on to friends in the NP staff also...dangerous. Not about making money.. about wild life

For starters, I can't really follow your stream of consciousness style. It's clear you don't know much about mountainbiking - if people can walk on the trails there, there's no reason they can't cycle on them, the impact is negligible. They do anyway and the national park are well aware of it. The only section that is prohibited is on the old Kenmare road so knock yourself out.

cottager83 · 06-02-2015 2:55pm

Hi Folks, looking to hire a vintage car for a wedding in Killarney, can anybody recommend a company that does them?
Cheers!!

Ciarrai76 · 06-02-2015 5:39pm

cottager83 wrote: »

Hi Folks, looking to hire a vintage car for a wedding in Killarney, can anybody recommend a company that does them?
Cheers!!

moved to the Killarney thread.
Anyone able to recommend anything??

siblers · 07-02-2015 1:06am

Graces7 wrote: »

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Read the link re National Parks please ...wincing at your post...a basic total lack of understanding.. will send your post on to friends in the NP staff also...dangerous. Not about making money.. about wild life

Sending his post on to the staff of the national park? I'm pretty sure they have more important stuff to be dealing with

Lex Luthor · 07-02-2015 4:57pm

we are staying overnight in Killarney in 2 weeks and looking for a restaurant recommendation. its a group of 20 so we would need to book in advance and we want something healthy, preferably pasta/chicken as its a football team and we want to get something decent in the players for match next day.

team avg age is 14 so would need to be somewhere to accomodate us, well behaved bunch of lads

any suggestions would appreciate

thanks

Ciarrai76 · 07-02-2015 5:52pm

Lex Luthor wrote: »

we are staying overnight in Killarney in 2 weeks and looking for a restaurant recommendation. its a group of 20 so we would need to book in advance and we want something healthy, preferably pasta/chicken as its a football team and we want to get something decent in the players for match next day.

team avg age is 14 so would need to be somewhere to accomodate us, well behaved bunch of lads

any suggestions would appreciate

thanks

moved to Killarney thread, you will get plenty of recommendations there!

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