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Hair piece question

  • 11-02-2013 7:50pm
    #1
    Hpbiea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17 ✭


    I am a male in his mid-20a with a badly receeding hairline, and have thought about saving up for a hair transplant. However this procedure is extremely expensive. I have recently come across another hair loss treatment for MPB commonly known as hair pieces. However, although they are only a fraction of the price of a transplant, I am a bit sceptical about them. Please answer truthfully,

    (a) Do hair pieces actually look real, or are they noticeable and artificial looking like a wig?

    (b) How long do they generally last for?

    (c) Would they blow off in windy weather, in the same way a bald fellas wig hilariously blows off with the wind - or are they pretty much glued onto the head?

    (d) Are the same thing as a toupee?

    (e) Csn they be bought in Dublin and if so, how much do they cost?

    (f) And lastly, do hair pieces in any way damage existing hair?


    Thanks for the help.


Comments

  • #2
    LegacyUser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    OP, don't waste your time with a hairpiece...the truth will eventually out, and why bother with the expense& stress of it?
    Shave it all off....it looks more youthful& current than a toupe or receding hairline.
    Ref Bruce Willis, Billy Zane, Jason Statham.....you can turn this to your advantage, and at minimal cost!


  • #3
    Hpbiea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17 ✭Hpbiea


    jlljkh wrote: »
    OP, don't waste your time with a hairpiece...the truth will eventually out, and why bother with the expense& stress of it?
    Shave it all off....it looks more youthful& current than a toupe or receding hairline.
    Ref Bruce Willis, Billy Zane, Jason Statham.....you can turn this to your advantage, and at minimal cost!

    I don't want to shave my head, in fact I absolutely despise that look. And can come on the only reason.they can pull it off is because they're actors. Again I hate shaved heads, and would even prefer to keep the remaining hair I have now as opposed to doing that.

    I am simply looking for a way to restore hair (if thats possible) and am looking for the best route to do so. If there's not, I'll just accept and keep what I have and maybe grow some facial hair. Again please no more lazy. "shave it off" comments because I wouldn't do that if I was paid. In fairness it suits a lot of people, just not me.

    Thanks


  • #4
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    This man can afford any treatment he wants and here is how he looks.

    http://www.edrugstore.md/articles/wp-content%5Cuploads/2011/01/toupee-trump-242x300.jpg

    Could I (gently) suggest spending money on dealing with the self-esteem issue that causes you to be so concerned with your hair loss, I think your problem is with your head, but not with your hair. A good few sessions with a good therapist might help you put this in perspective.

    And yes, I did three years of therapy and yes it helps.


  • #5
    Pawwed Rig
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,407 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    MadsL wrote: »
    A good few sessions with a good therapist might help you put this in perspective.

    That is a bit much.
    Alot of people are self conscious about hair loss that have no need to see a therapist. There may not be underlying issues other than the hair loss.
    Just thinking, 'a good few sessions with a good therapist' would cost how much?? Most likely alot less the the hair piece the OP is looking for.

    OP I can't give you any advice as such other than they will not blow off on a windy day as they are knitted into the existing hair. There are also sprays that I have heard used that increase volume but that depends how much hair loss you have seen so far.
    Hopefully someone here can give a better answer. They are usually a helpful bunch in TGC (usually).


  • #6
    Please Kill Me
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,340 ✭✭✭Please Kill Me


    jlljkh wrote: »
    OP, don't waste your time with a hairpiece...the truth will eventually out, and why bother with the expense& stress of it?
    Shave it all off....it looks more youthful& current than a toupe or receding hairline.
    Ref Bruce Willis, Billy Zane, Jason Statham.....you can turn this to your advantage, and at minimal cost!

    I would agree completely with this post. Costs nothing if you do it yourself regular and you don't look as daft as this...

    toupee-trump-242x300.jpg


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  • #7
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Pawwed Rig wrote: »
    That is a bit much.
    Alot of people are self conscious about hair loss that have no need to see a therapist. There may not be underlying issues other than the hair loss.
    Just thinking, 'a good few sessions with a good therapist' would cost how much?? Most likely alot less the the hair piece the OP is looking for.

    OP I can't give you any advice as such other than they will not blow off on a windy day as they are knitted into the existing hair. There are also sprays that I have heard used that increase volume but that depends how much hair loss you have seen so far.
    Hopefully someone here can give a better answer. They are usually a helpful bunch in TGC (usually).

    You don't think a therapist would help with a body related self-esteem issue? Ok then. Sorry for cutting to the root of the matter, I guess it is "a bit much" carry on with 'knits;, sprays and other quackery.

    After all

    249197524_dc64410ae8_z.jpg?zz=1

    Cost of a few sessions at a therapist will have a longer lasting effect than hundreds thrown at a "hair clinic".


  • #8
    Hpbiea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17 ✭Hpbiea


    MadsL wrote: »
    This man can afford any treatment he wants and here is how he looks.

    http://www.edrugstore.md/articles/wp-content%5Cuploads/2011/01/toupee-trump-242x300.jpg

    Could I (gently) suggest spending money on dealing with the self-esteem issue that causes you to be so concerned with your hair loss, I think your problem is with your head, but not with your hair. A good few sessions with a good therapist might help you put this in perspective.

    And yes, I did three years of therapy and yes it helps.

    Could you be a little less patronising, thanks. And I did say I was was willing to accept my hair and maybe grow a beard etc. providing I would be convinced that no hair loss treatments (whether hairpieces or transplants) didnt work.

    Could whoever else posts in this thread just answer and help out with my queries instead of bringing up counselling, shaving it off suggestions etc. thanks


  • #9
    Hpbiea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17 ✭Hpbiea


    Please Kill Me wrote: »

    I would agree completely with this post. Costs nothing if you do it yourself regular and you don't look as daft as this...

    toupee-trump-242x300.jpg

    And I don't agree with that post as I have already outlined. As for Donald Trump, the man looks stupid with that thing, I wouldn't replicate that under any circumstances:


  • #10
    Hpbiea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17 ✭Hpbiea


    MadsL wrote: »

    You don't think a therapist would help with a body related self-esteem issue? Ok then. Sorry for cutting to the root of the matter, I guess it is "a bit much" carry on with 'knits;, sprays and other quackery.

    After all

    249197524_dc64410ae8_z.jpg?zz=1

    Cost of a few sessions at a therapist will have a longer lasting effect than hundreds thrown at a "hair clinic".

    Do you even suffer from MPB? I doubt it with the way you go on about the subject.


  • #11
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Hpbiea wrote: »
    Could you be a little less patronising, thanks. And I did say I was was willing to accept my hair and maybe grow a beard etc. providing I would be convinced that no hair loss treatments (whether hairpieces or transplants) didnt work.

    Could whoever else posts in this thread just answer and help out with my queries instead of bringing up counselling, shaving it off suggestions etc. thanks

    Hpbiea, I was gently suggesting it if you read my post, not trying to be patronizing at all, but I'm pointing out that if someone with the money of Trump cannot find a decent looking solution then I suspect you are barking up the wrong tree.

    If it's bothering you then the solution is inside your head, and some professional help with that really does help speaking from experience.


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  • #12
    campo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,364 ✭✭✭campo


    I feel for you OP as I have been where you are .

    Regards hair pieces while they are better then what they used to look like they still ain't great .

    I also don't like shaved look but I had to accept the cards life has dealt me and recently took the plunge and you know what I now look kick ass


  • #13
    Sleepy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,269 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Just cut it close tbh. You don't need to go for a blade one all round or anything like that: a tight crop that makes it plain you've accepted your hair loss is far more masculine than hair pieces, implants or comb-overs.


  • #14
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    OP if you're looking for a female perspective, then here's my 2c.

    I've never seen a natural looking hairpiece, there are too many tell tale signs. I think women are more tuned into noticing those signs too, as we generally invest more time in our own hair.

    A young guy with a close cut (a 2 or a 1) or a shaved head looks a hundred times better than a guy trying to make his hair look like something it just can't be. Donald Trump is an example of how you can convince yourself it looks okay, but to others its just not a good look.

    A bald guy who's comfortable with it, is another hundred times more attractive than a guy who's very conscious of it. As Madsl said, if you need a few sessions to root out that insecurity, its money well spent. Much better spent than it is on fighting a losing battle.

    Have you tried Rogaine? I don't know much about it, but talk to your doctor about this and maybe they can give you some guidance. Its not sucessful for everyone as far as I know.

    Lastly, hair is a non factor when it comes to lots of girls. I have never been put off by a bald head, but personally, I would be put off by a hairpiece.

    Whatever you decide, I hope it gives you confidence as I'm sure its a challenging thing to some guys.


    edited to add: Loads of bald guys look totally bad-ass, in a very good way. :)


  • #15
    Hpbiea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17 ✭Hpbiea


    Sleepy wrote: »
    Just cut it close tbh. You don't need to go for a blade one all round or anything like that: a tight crop that makes it plain you've accepted your hair loss is far more masculine than hair pieces, implants or comb-overs.

    I appreciate the suggestion, however unfortunately the tight cut thin doesn't suit me. Then again if all else fails then I guess I'll have no other option.


  • #16
    Sleepy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,269 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    TBH, all else has failed.

    If there was a real cure for male pattern baldness, we'd all know about it. It'd be as famous as Viagra.


  • #17
    Hpbiea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17 ✭Hpbiea


    Candie wrote: »
    OP if you're looking for a female perspective, then here's my 2c.

    I've never seen a natural looking hairpiece, there are too many tell tale signs. I think women are more tuned into noticing those signs too, as we generally invest more time in our own hair.

    A young guy with a close cut (a 2 or a 1) or a shaved head looks a hundred times better than a guy trying to make his hair look like something it just can't be. Donald Trump is an example of how you can convince yourself it looks okay, but to others its just not a good look.

    A bald guy who's comfortable with it, is another hundred times more attractive than a guy who's very conscious of it. As Madsl said, if you need a few sessions to root out that insecurity, its money well spent. Much better spent than it is on fighting a losing battle.

    Have you tried Rogaine? I don't know much about it, but talk to your doctor about this and maybe they can give you some guidance. Its not sucessful for everyone as far as I know.

    Lastly, hair is a non factor when it comes to lots of girls. I have never been put off by a bald head, but personally, I would be put off by a hairpiece.

    Whatever you decide, I hope it gives you confidence as I'm sure its a challenging thing to some guys.


    edited to add: Loads of bald guys look totally bad-ass, in a very good way. :)

    Candie, thank you for your comment, but this has really nothing to do with women or anybody else. In fact I woudnt care tommorow if every women turned around and said they liked bald men, I want to do this for myself, and not anybody else.


  • #18
    Hpbiea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17 ✭Hpbiea


    Sleepy wrote: »
    TBH, all else has failed.

    If there was a real cure for male pattern baldness, we'd all know about it. It'd be as famous as Viagra.

    I'm aware there isnt a cure for MPB (and may never be), however I still think that treatments in the form of transplant, medications have come a long way. Im trying to give myself hope, I won't be naive though and understand that nothing may work.


  • #19
    campo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,364 ✭✭✭campo


    Hpbiea wrote: »

    I'm aware there isnt a cure for MPB (and may never be), however I still think that treatments in the form of transplant, medications have come a long way. Im trying to give myself hope, I won't be naive though and understand that nothing may work.

    Agree they have come a long way , but take wayne rooney as an example he paid a fortune for hair transplant and imho it looks no better then a tight hair cut that cost 10e

    OP I have been in your shoes and I know how tough it is but after getting it shaved after 1 day of banter from friends no one has even batted a eye lid since


  • #20
    sheesh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,081 ✭✭✭sheesh


    op have you thought about a shorter cut or do you go with a longer haired look.
    I used regain for a while and found it worked. I eventually went with the shorter cut. You may have to accept that it is just gone and not coming back.


  • #21
    juan.kerr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,766 ✭✭✭juan.kerr


    Go see a doctor.

    Edit: Sorry I misread that as 'Herpes Question'.


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  • #22
    sheesh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,081 ✭✭✭sheesh


    juan.kerr wrote: »
    Go see a doctor.

    Edit: Sorry I misread that as 'Herpes Question'.

    very supportive everyone well done! :confused:


  • #23
    Sky King
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Sky King


    Just don't do a comb-over OP.


  • #24
    LegacyUser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    OP, understand you want to do this for yourself. If you feel a toupe is the way forward in making you feel better about yourself, go for it. Nothing anyone here will say will make a difference, it seems.
    But....have you asked friends/relatives/hairdressers as to what they'd suggest as a hair solution? Everyone else can see you're balding, it's likely they have an opinion on it one way or another- toupe, shave, leave as is- or is the toupe a solution you've come to yourself? You may even have an element of body dysmorphic disorder if this has been bothering you for a while, so I'd be keen for you to hear others' opinions before embarking on anything major.


  • #25
    Please Kill Me
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,340 ✭✭✭Please Kill Me


    Hpbiea wrote: »
    I appreciate the suggestion, however unfortunately the tight cut thin doesn't suit me. Then again if all else fails then I guess I'll have no other option.

    Have you tried? I lost my hair at 22 and for a long time, just wore a baseball hat to cover it. It was suggested to me to shave it and I refused for similar reasons! I thought I had (have) an odd-shaped head and to shave it would look ridiculous. I drunkenly did it for the laugh one night and in fairness, it didn't look so bad. That was 20 years ago. People who have seen pictures of me WITH hair have said it looks odd.

    The point is, been there - done that so I know how you feel. It's not as bad as you think.


  • #26
    Esel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,518 ✭✭✭✭Esel


    Castration, if done early enough, works afaik. You don't see many bald eunuchs (and the ones you do see have shaved their head).

    You could try minoxidil, but afaik you have to keep using it.

    Not your ornery onager



  • #27
    Handsome Bob
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    Sleepy wrote: »
    TBH, all else has failed.

    If there was a real cure for male pattern baldness, we'd all know about it. It'd be as famous as Viagra.

    Personally, it wouldn't make a difference to me. Maybe it's because I've been bald since I was 16/17 and I've had plenty of years to get used to it, but even if there was a "cure", the idea of taking it wouldn't appeal to me.


  • #28
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Handsome Bob wrote: »
    Personally, it wouldn't make a difference to me. Maybe it's because I've been bald since I was 16/17 and I've had plenty of years to get used to it, but even if there was a "cure", the idea of taking it wouldn't appeal to me.

    Apt Username is Apt!


  • #29
    Time to go mobile
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 41 ✭Time to go mobile


    OP would you be interested in this hairpiece?

    http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=fJgSiwDdcok&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DfJgSiwDdcok&gl=GB


  • #30
    the_syco
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,306 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Hpbiea wrote: »
    Do you even suffer from MPB? I doubt it with the way you go on about the subject.
    Overall, I probably sank a few hundred in the stupid lotions. They ONLY work to KEEP the hair and MAY, MAY grow some hair back. May. If you start using the f**king things before you notice your hair falling out, it seems.


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  • #31
    Peregrinus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,712 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    Hpbiea wrote: »
    I appreciate the suggestion, however unfortunately the tight cut thin doesn't suit me. Then again if all else fails then I guess I'll have no other option.
    I dare say it would suit you better than the Trump-style hairpiece, though.

    Give the clip a go. If, having lived with it, you really find it's as bad as you fear it will be, you can grow it out and investigate hairpieces. Clipping has the advantage that it costs much, much less than hairpieces, so you can experiment with it without doing to much permanent damage either to you wallet or to your reputation with the ladies. I'd see the hairpiece as the riskiest and most expensive strategy, and so it, rather than clipping, is the one you should see as the last option.


  • #32
    Jacobian Transformation
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12 ✭Jacobian Transformation


    Peregrinus wrote: »
    I dare say it would suit you better than the Trump-style hairpiece, though.

    Give the clip a go. If, having lived with it, you really find it's as bad as you fear it will be, you can grow it out and investigate hairpieces. Clipping has the advantage that it costs much, much less than hairpieces, so you can experiment with it without doing to much permanent damage either to you wallet or to your reputation with the ladies. I'd see the hairpiece as the riskiest and most expensive strategy, and so it, rather than clipping, is the one you should see as the last option.

    I bet he'd look better with this hairpiece than a shaved head.

    http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=fJgSiwDdcok&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DfJgSiwDdcok&gl=GB


  • #33
    tatumkelly
    Registered Users Posts: 713 ✭✭✭tatumkelly


    OP as a woman who wears a hair piece, I understand the concerns you might have about them blowing away, looking fake etc

    To be honest, things have moved on a lot in terms of the design, fit, styling and texture of wigs. They're actually incredible. I know a few guys who have worn them, and looked great, and a few who looked terrible.

    It's all about having the confidence to wear it well.

    If you have any questions about suppliers, prices etc feel free to ask.

    Whatever you decide, make sure it's whatever makes you feel happy and confident.


  • #34
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    tatumkelly wrote: »
    things have moved on a lot in terms of the design, fit, styling and texture of wigs.

    Just wonder why wealthy men are unable to get a decent looking fit, texture and styling. Donald Trump, Paul Daniels, and Gene Simmons spring to mind.

    I've read that there are great wigs, but they tend to be put on by professional makeup artists and take two hours to remove as they are so hard to take off.


  • #35
    Minoxidil
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 46 ✭Minoxidil


    MadsL wrote: »

    Just wonder why wealthy men are unable to get a decent looking fit, texture and styling. Donald Trump, Paul Daniels, and Gene Simmons spring to mind.

    I've read that there are great wigs, but they tend to be put on by professional makeup artists and take two hours to remove as they are so hard to take off.

    Maybe they're so good you don't notice who is wearing them.


  • #36
    BrianD3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,452 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    What Norwood are you

    male-baldness.gif

    A Norwood 2 is considered a "mature hairline" and not male pattern baldness although obviously it can progress to MPB. Many men when they see their hair moving from a juvenile hairline to NW 2 think they're going bald, not necessarily true. Very few men retain their juvenile hairline past their twenties. Steven Gerrard (Liverpool) and Bill Clinton are examples.

    Personally I am about a NW 2.5 or a 3 at worst. I get my hair cut fairly short, blade 4 back and sides and a trim on top. There is a trick where if the middle bit at the front is cut short and the sides left slightly longer it can make the sides look less receded. Some barber don't do this and will instead leave the middle relatively long maybe thinking that this will then cover the baldness if combed to the side. IMO this just looks bad.

    One other thing that can make a slight difference is - don't wash your hair with shampoo. Brush it vigorously with a Boar Bristle brush when dry and and rinse it with water only. The hair retains more of its natural oils that way and IME looks thicker.


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  • #37
    Hpbiea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17 ✭Hpbiea


    Sleepy wrote: »
    Just cut it close tbh. You don't need to go for a blade one all round or anything like that: a tight crop that makes it plain you've accepted your hair loss is far more masculine than hair pieces, implants or comb-overs.

    Ok, while with a lot of hard work and savings, I am still hoping on the HT route down the road. However, I've decided not to bother with anything in between including creams or stupid wigs or comb overs. However between the time I can afford the above, I just fukc it cut my hair down to a very light shade (maybe a 1 or below) and have also been growing a little facial hair underneath the mouth. On top of putting the effort into dressing better and wearing my glasses (for once) - this isn't bad at all, certainly a lot better and even cooler than thinning, stringy hair.

    I guess for the next year or two until I have the money things won't be so bad. Thanks for the tip up.


  • #38
    Mickey Dazzler
    Closed Accounts Posts: 586 ✭✭✭Mickey Dazzler


    Just shave it off man. you'll look great


  • #39
    Galwayguy35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,676 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    campo wrote: »
    Agree they have come a long way , but take wayne rooney as an example he paid a fortune for hair transplant and imho it looks no better then a tight hair cut that cost 10e

    OP I have been in your shoes and I know how tough it is but after getting it shaved after 1 day of banter from friends no one has even batted a eye lid since

    Much the same situation with myself, I always had good hair and was blond as well but when I started to go light on top it really got me down.

    I tried to cover it over but realised it wasn't going to work so one day I went into the barber and got a number 1 cut.

    After a day or so I got used to it and as some female posters have mentioned, most women don't mind if a guy has a shaved head.


  • #40
    TerrorFirmer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    Such drama on this thread.

    Start Finsasteride - preserve that you have left.

    Working from there - transplants, micrografts, aren't that expensive few thousand at most, to restore a natural hairline on what hair you have.

    I'm a NW2 at the moment and hoping through Finasterade and grafts to maintain a NW2 hairline indefinitely.

    As for Donald Trump - genuinely have zero idea as to why he doesn't nuke that god awful comb over in favor of a genuine transplant but who are we to say? Seriously, with his income I'm bafflled as to why he doesn't pursue the genuine article available to even the average joe these days.


  • #41
    Esel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,518 ✭✭✭✭Esel


    TerrorFirmer wrote: »
    Such drama on this thread.

    Start Finsasteride - preserve that you have left.

    Working from there - transplants, micrografts, aren't that expensive few thousand at most, to restore a natural hairline on what hair you have.

    I'm a NW2 at the moment and hoping through Finasterade and grafts to maintain a NW2 hairline indefinitely.
    Bolding mine.

    If by 'indefinitely' you mean 'until you die'.

    What colour will your artificially stimulated / grafted keratin strands be at your expiration date? I hope the colour will be age-appropriate - after all, you don't want to look like Uncle Barry ("... and a white wine for the ladies!") in your expensive casket (I said 'casket' because 'coffin' is a bit morbid).

    What is your position on Botox? On plastic surgery? On cryogenics? On 'involuntary organ donation' (think sliced-open Chinese executed 'criminal' here)?

    Your 'age resistance plan', and the OP's
    with a lot of hard work and savings, I am still hoping on the HT route down the road
    (bolding mine) seem to me to be ultimately, and totally, sad.

    This is the only way to go. Imo, of course, and this post is not to be construed as condoning the first part (BG) of the BG&RH forum - one should always strive to maintain an age-appropriate BMI / vascular health balance (without non-emergency medical intervention, as if I approved of this I would be in an Oscar Pistolius (sic, see what I did etc.) situation). Confused? I mean that I wouldn't have a leg to..... OK - liposuction.

    [ I have been known to post in BG&RH, but being belittled there as a result of the above paragraph would not really hurt me. I know the BG&RH guys are reading this post because they have both BG and RH on their watch lists, and I say bring it on, you baldy, fat fuppers! ]

    On the Donald angle, I have often noticed the anomaly that many more elder male music / rock stars than the statistical average seem to be able to maintain their cranial hiresuteness. Exceptions that come to mind are Paul Simon and James Taylor (although most of JT's latter-day approved images stop about 5cm above his eyebrows...). I don't think the apparently full-maned stars are either using topical medication or are post-transplant. They probably employ the services of world-class (and very discreet) wig-makers. An alternative option is to have a selection of (very) tight-fitting hats - however, they they face the ultimate embarrassment of dehatment in public.

    Don't be a slave to your image in the mirror. Rather enjoy your silverback status marker - even if you feel it is premature. Tilt your head back a bit (but not enough to risk being accused of being supercilious...) I don't know if it was in this thread or elsewhere that I read that in some cultures a male is not taken seriously until he develops a receding hairline. The corollary is that the further your hairline recedes, the more seriously you are taken.

    TL/DR Embrace your baldness/maturity. Or if you are not too old to benefit and have health insurance, enquire about orchidectomy (donate first though).

    Not your ornery onager



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  • #42
    TerrorFirmer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    I'm sorry they seem sad to you but to a lot of men, going bald is a natural but horrible experience. I, for example, am only 25, and loosing my hair at that age sucks. If you're bald and have no problem with it, great for you. But you can't expect everyone to be the same and calling it sad is unnecessary.
    What colour will your artificially stimulated / grafted keratin strands be at your expiration date? I hope the colour will be age-appropriate - after all, you don't want to look like Uncle Barry ("... and a white wine for the ladies!") in your expensive casket (I said 'casket' because 'coffin' is a bit morbid).

    Do you even know the first thing about hair transplants? Because you're talking utter nonsense to be honest. They're not artificial. Hair is taken from areas of your hair immune to MPB and transplanted. Modern hair transplants look 100% like a natural hairline - hence my comment regarding Donald Trump - and they discolor and thin with old age exactly the same as they would with a non transplanted hairline in maturity.
    What is your position on Botox? On plastic surgery? On cryogenics? On 'involuntary organ donation' (think sliced-open Chinese executed 'criminal' here)?

    Your 'age resistance plan', and the OP's

    Don't have an opinion on botox, but like with the hair, whatever makes people happier with themselves, but comparing MPH and hair transplant to cryogenics is pretty pathetic, as it dismissing it as some sort of futile 'age resistance' plan. It's nothing to do with age.
    After a day or so I got used to it and as some female posters have mentioned, most women don't mind if a guy has a shaved head.

    This part I agree with - they don't. The girl I'm seeing has even said to me she doesn't care if I have no hair. I'm looking into hair transplants/loss prevention for the same reason I'm working on my acne scars - for myself, and so that I can look easier into the mirror. Nothing to do with women, age defiance, or acceptance.


  • #43
    Oh hai
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 170 ✭✭Oh hai


    Have searched a bit on Boards for this topic so I hope this is the right thread for it!

    My brother is in his mid thirties and going light on top. It's really starting to get him down lately. It's all he thinks about and it has really knocked his confidence. Shaving his head isn't an option for him, he tried it and pretty much everyone (bar the people just being nice) told him it didn't suit him, he looked sick etc...and from my point of view as his sister, I didn't think it suited him either and I don't think it's a case of getting used to it, he did try but it just isn't for him. I wish it was. It would make life a lot easier. He has his heart set on hair transplant now. He has the money and while his hair loss is only starting to really become noticeable now he thinks now is the time before it gets any worse.

    My questions are has anyone on here had a hair transplant done? If you don't want to say on here could you please PM me your experience of it or recommendations? He's based in Cork. We are looking in to Therapie who have clinics all over Ireland but it seems hard to find many reviews on any of these places.

    Any help would be appreciated, like I said, shaving it off isn't the answer he's looking for unfortunately so if anyone has any experiences of hair transplants, good or bad I would really appreciate it. Thankyou.


  • #44
    Three Seasons
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 548 ✭✭✭Three Seasons


    Hpbiea wrote: »

    I don't want to shave my head, in fact I absolutely despise that look. And can come on the only reason.they can pull it off is because they're actors. Again I hate shaved heads, and would even prefer to keep the remaining hair I have now as opposed to doing that.

    I am simply looking for a way to restore hair (if thats possible) and am looking for the best route to do so. If there's not, I'll just accept and keep what I have and maybe grow some facial hair. Again please no more lazy. "shave it off" comments because I wouldn't do that if I was paid. In fairness it suits a lot of people, just not me.

    Thanks

    OP google the Maliniak method, apparently plenty of peopl have regrow hair with this method. Plenty of people have had success with it at the immortal hair forum.

    The theory behind it is that a combination of poor bloodline a buildup of DHT causes baldness. So to solve that you have to improve blood flow, according to this method you need to massage several spots on your head daily. The areas to massage are where the galea are located. So the back and sides of your head Nd above your eyebrows.

    Diet supposedly helps too.

    Google the ray peat forum.


  • #45
    BrianD3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,452 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    There is lots of good info on the web about hair transplants and hair transplant surgeons. There are several surgeons in the US who get great reviews and there are a few in the UK and Europe too. Dr Bisanga's clinic in Brussels seems to be a very good one.

    Personally I would get a transplant and can easily afford it but would probably wait until I am 40 to see how my hair loss developed. NW 2 or less I wouldn't get one as that is mild hair loss. NW 4 or more and I don't think I'd get one either as I don't think I'd be happy with the density.

    If a way is found to safely and reliably clone a person's hair prior to transplant then that would be a massive deal for balding men. Cloning is years away at best though, quite likely it will never be available.


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