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  • 11-02-2013 7:50pm
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    I am a male in his mid-20a with a badly receeding hairline, and have thought about saving up for a hair transplant. However this procedure is extremely expensive. I have recently come across another hair loss treatment for MPB commonly known as hair pieces. However, although they are only a fraction of the price of a transplant, I am a bit sceptical about them. Please answer truthfully,

    (a) Do hair pieces actually look real, or are they noticeable and artificial looking like a wig?

    (b) How long do they generally last for?

    (c) Would they blow off in windy weather, in the same way a bald fellas wig hilariously blows off with the wind - or are they pretty much glued onto the head?

    (d) Are the same thing as a toupee?

    (e) Csn they be bought in Dublin and if so, how much do they cost?

    (f) And lastly, do hair pieces in any way damage existing hair?


    Thanks for the help.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    OP, don't waste your time with a hairpiece...the truth will eventually out, and why bother with the expense& stress of it?
    Shave it all off....it looks more youthful& current than a toupe or receding hairline.
    Ref Bruce Willis, Billy Zane, Jason Statham.....you can turn this to your advantage, and at minimal cost!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 Hpbiea


    jlljkh wrote: »
    OP, don't waste your time with a hairpiece...the truth will eventually out, and why bother with the expense& stress of it?
    Shave it all off....it looks more youthful& current than a toupe or receding hairline.
    Ref Bruce Willis, Billy Zane, Jason Statham.....you can turn this to your advantage, and at minimal cost!

    I don't want to shave my head, in fact I absolutely despise that look. And can come on the only reason.they can pull it off is because they're actors. Again I hate shaved heads, and would even prefer to keep the remaining hair I have now as opposed to doing that.

    I am simply looking for a way to restore hair (if thats possible) and am looking for the best route to do so. If there's not, I'll just accept and keep what I have and maybe grow some facial hair. Again please no more lazy. "shave it off" comments because I wouldn't do that if I was paid. In fairness it suits a lot of people, just not me.

    Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    This man can afford any treatment he wants and here is how he looks.

    http://www.edrugstore.md/articles/wp-content%5Cuploads/2011/01/toupee-trump-242x300.jpg

    Could I (gently) suggest spending money on dealing with the self-esteem issue that causes you to be so concerned with your hair loss, I think your problem is with your head, but not with your hair. A good few sessions with a good therapist might help you put this in perspective.

    And yes, I did three years of therapy and yes it helps.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 22,316 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    MadsL wrote: »
    A good few sessions with a good therapist might help you put this in perspective.

    That is a bit much.
    Alot of people are self conscious about hair loss that have no need to see a therapist. There may not be underlying issues other than the hair loss.
    Just thinking, 'a good few sessions with a good therapist' would cost how much?? Most likely alot less the the hair piece the OP is looking for.

    OP I can't give you any advice as such other than they will not blow off on a windy day as they are knitted into the existing hair. There are also sprays that I have heard used that increase volume but that depends how much hair loss you have seen so far.
    Hopefully someone here can give a better answer. They are usually a helpful bunch in TGC (usually).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,340 ✭✭✭Please Kill Me


    jlljkh wrote: »
    OP, don't waste your time with a hairpiece...the truth will eventually out, and why bother with the expense& stress of it?
    Shave it all off....it looks more youthful& current than a toupe or receding hairline.
    Ref Bruce Willis, Billy Zane, Jason Statham.....you can turn this to your advantage, and at minimal cost!

    I would agree completely with this post. Costs nothing if you do it yourself regular and you don't look as daft as this...

    toupee-trump-242x300.jpg


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  • Registered Users Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Pawwed Rig wrote: »
    That is a bit much.
    Alot of people are self conscious about hair loss that have no need to see a therapist. There may not be underlying issues other than the hair loss.
    Just thinking, 'a good few sessions with a good therapist' would cost how much?? Most likely alot less the the hair piece the OP is looking for.

    OP I can't give you any advice as such other than they will not blow off on a windy day as they are knitted into the existing hair. There are also sprays that I have heard used that increase volume but that depends how much hair loss you have seen so far.
    Hopefully someone here can give a better answer. They are usually a helpful bunch in TGC (usually).

    You don't think a therapist would help with a body related self-esteem issue? Ok then. Sorry for cutting to the root of the matter, I guess it is "a bit much" carry on with 'knits;, sprays and other quackery.

    After all

    249197524_dc64410ae8_z.jpg?zz=1

    Cost of a few sessions at a therapist will have a longer lasting effect than hundreds thrown at a "hair clinic".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 Hpbiea


    MadsL wrote: »
    This man can afford any treatment he wants and here is how he looks.

    http://www.edrugstore.md/articles/wp-content%5Cuploads/2011/01/toupee-trump-242x300.jpg

    Could I (gently) suggest spending money on dealing with the self-esteem issue that causes you to be so concerned with your hair loss, I think your problem is with your head, but not with your hair. A good few sessions with a good therapist might help you put this in perspective.

    And yes, I did three years of therapy and yes it helps.

    Could you be a little less patronising, thanks. And I did say I was was willing to accept my hair and maybe grow a beard etc. providing I would be convinced that no hair loss treatments (whether hairpieces or transplants) didnt work.

    Could whoever else posts in this thread just answer and help out with my queries instead of bringing up counselling, shaving it off suggestions etc. thanks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 Hpbiea



    I would agree completely with this post. Costs nothing if you do it yourself regular and you don't look as daft as this...

    toupee-trump-242x300.jpg

    And I don't agree with that post as I have already outlined. As for Donald Trump, the man looks stupid with that thing, I wouldn't replicate that under any circumstances:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 Hpbiea


    MadsL wrote: »

    You don't think a therapist would help with a body related self-esteem issue? Ok then. Sorry for cutting to the root of the matter, I guess it is "a bit much" carry on with 'knits;, sprays and other quackery.

    After all

    249197524_dc64410ae8_z.jpg?zz=1

    Cost of a few sessions at a therapist will have a longer lasting effect than hundreds thrown at a "hair clinic".

    Do you even suffer from MPB? I doubt it with the way you go on about the subject.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Hpbiea wrote: »
    Could you be a little less patronising, thanks. And I did say I was was willing to accept my hair and maybe grow a beard etc. providing I would be convinced that no hair loss treatments (whether hairpieces or transplants) didnt work.

    Could whoever else posts in this thread just answer and help out with my queries instead of bringing up counselling, shaving it off suggestions etc. thanks

    Hpbiea, I was gently suggesting it if you read my post, not trying to be patronizing at all, but I'm pointing out that if someone with the money of Trump cannot find a decent looking solution then I suspect you are barking up the wrong tree.

    If it's bothering you then the solution is inside your head, and some professional help with that really does help speaking from experience.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,364 ✭✭✭campo


    I feel for you OP as I have been where you are .

    Regards hair pieces while they are better then what they used to look like they still ain't great .

    I also don't like shaved look but I had to accept the cards life has dealt me and recently took the plunge and you know what I now look kick ass


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,162 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Just cut it close tbh. You don't need to go for a blade one all round or anything like that: a tight crop that makes it plain you've accepted your hair loss is far more masculine than hair pieces, implants or comb-overs.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    OP if you're looking for a female perspective, then here's my 2c.

    I've never seen a natural looking hairpiece, there are too many tell tale signs. I think women are more tuned into noticing those signs too, as we generally invest more time in our own hair.

    A young guy with a close cut (a 2 or a 1) or a shaved head looks a hundred times better than a guy trying to make his hair look like something it just can't be. Donald Trump is an example of how you can convince yourself it looks okay, but to others its just not a good look.

    A bald guy who's comfortable with it, is another hundred times more attractive than a guy who's very conscious of it. As Madsl said, if you need a few sessions to root out that insecurity, its money well spent. Much better spent than it is on fighting a losing battle.

    Have you tried Rogaine? I don't know much about it, but talk to your doctor about this and maybe they can give you some guidance. Its not sucessful for everyone as far as I know.

    Lastly, hair is a non factor when it comes to lots of girls. I have never been put off by a bald head, but personally, I would be put off by a hairpiece.

    Whatever you decide, I hope it gives you confidence as I'm sure its a challenging thing to some guys.


    edited to add: Loads of bald guys look totally bad-ass, in a very good way. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 Hpbiea


    Sleepy wrote: »
    Just cut it close tbh. You don't need to go for a blade one all round or anything like that: a tight crop that makes it plain you've accepted your hair loss is far more masculine than hair pieces, implants or comb-overs.

    I appreciate the suggestion, however unfortunately the tight cut thin doesn't suit me. Then again if all else fails then I guess I'll have no other option.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,162 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    TBH, all else has failed.

    If there was a real cure for male pattern baldness, we'd all know about it. It'd be as famous as Viagra.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 Hpbiea


    Candie wrote: »
    OP if you're looking for a female perspective, then here's my 2c.

    I've never seen a natural looking hairpiece, there are too many tell tale signs. I think women are more tuned into noticing those signs too, as we generally invest more time in our own hair.

    A young guy with a close cut (a 2 or a 1) or a shaved head looks a hundred times better than a guy trying to make his hair look like something it just can't be. Donald Trump is an example of how you can convince yourself it looks okay, but to others its just not a good look.

    A bald guy who's comfortable with it, is another hundred times more attractive than a guy who's very conscious of it. As Madsl said, if you need a few sessions to root out that insecurity, its money well spent. Much better spent than it is on fighting a losing battle.

    Have you tried Rogaine? I don't know much about it, but talk to your doctor about this and maybe they can give you some guidance. Its not sucessful for everyone as far as I know.

    Lastly, hair is a non factor when it comes to lots of girls. I have never been put off by a bald head, but personally, I would be put off by a hairpiece.

    Whatever you decide, I hope it gives you confidence as I'm sure its a challenging thing to some guys.


    edited to add: Loads of bald guys look totally bad-ass, in a very good way. :)

    Candie, thank you for your comment, but this has really nothing to do with women or anybody else. In fact I woudnt care tommorow if every women turned around and said they liked bald men, I want to do this for myself, and not anybody else.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 Hpbiea


    Sleepy wrote: »
    TBH, all else has failed.

    If there was a real cure for male pattern baldness, we'd all know about it. It'd be as famous as Viagra.

    I'm aware there isnt a cure for MPB (and may never be), however I still think that treatments in the form of transplant, medications have come a long way. Im trying to give myself hope, I won't be naive though and understand that nothing may work.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,364 ✭✭✭campo


    Hpbiea wrote: »

    I'm aware there isnt a cure for MPB (and may never be), however I still think that treatments in the form of transplant, medications have come a long way. Im trying to give myself hope, I won't be naive though and understand that nothing may work.

    Agree they have come a long way , but take wayne rooney as an example he paid a fortune for hair transplant and imho it looks no better then a tight hair cut that cost 10e

    OP I have been in your shoes and I know how tough it is but after getting it shaved after 1 day of banter from friends no one has even batted a eye lid since


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,080 ✭✭✭sheesh


    op have you thought about a shorter cut or do you go with a longer haired look.
    I used regain for a while and found it worked. I eventually went with the shorter cut. You may have to accept that it is just gone and not coming back.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,766 ✭✭✭juan.kerr


    Go see a doctor.

    Edit: Sorry I misread that as 'Herpes Question'.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,080 ✭✭✭sheesh


    juan.kerr wrote: »
    Go see a doctor.

    Edit: Sorry I misread that as 'Herpes Question'.

    very supportive everyone well done! :confused:


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Sky King


    Just don't do a comb-over OP.


  • Registered Users Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    OP, understand you want to do this for yourself. If you feel a toupe is the way forward in making you feel better about yourself, go for it. Nothing anyone here will say will make a difference, it seems.
    But....have you asked friends/relatives/hairdressers as to what they'd suggest as a hair solution? Everyone else can see you're balding, it's likely they have an opinion on it one way or another- toupe, shave, leave as is- or is the toupe a solution you've come to yourself? You may even have an element of body dysmorphic disorder if this has been bothering you for a while, so I'd be keen for you to hear others' opinions before embarking on anything major.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,340 ✭✭✭Please Kill Me


    Hpbiea wrote: »
    I appreciate the suggestion, however unfortunately the tight cut thin doesn't suit me. Then again if all else fails then I guess I'll have no other option.

    Have you tried? I lost my hair at 22 and for a long time, just wore a baseball hat to cover it. It was suggested to me to shave it and I refused for similar reasons! I thought I had (have) an odd-shaped head and to shave it would look ridiculous. I drunkenly did it for the laugh one night and in fairness, it didn't look so bad. That was 20 years ago. People who have seen pictures of me WITH hair have said it looks odd.

    The point is, been there - done that so I know how you feel. It's not as bad as you think.


  • Registered Users Posts: 22,035 ✭✭✭✭Esel


    Castration, if done early enough, works afaik. You don't see many bald eunuchs (and the ones you do see have shaved their head).

    You could try minoxidil, but afaik you have to keep using it.

    Not your ornery onager



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    Sleepy wrote: »
    TBH, all else has failed.

    If there was a real cure for male pattern baldness, we'd all know about it. It'd be as famous as Viagra.

    Personally, it wouldn't make a difference to me. Maybe it's because I've been bald since I was 16/17 and I've had plenty of years to get used to it, but even if there was a "cure", the idea of taking it wouldn't appeal to me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Personally, it wouldn't make a difference to me. Maybe it's because I've been bald since I was 16/17 and I've had plenty of years to get used to it, but even if there was a "cure", the idea of taking it wouldn't appeal to me.

    Apt Username is Apt!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 37,295 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Hpbiea wrote: »
    Do you even suffer from MPB? I doubt it with the way you go on about the subject.
    Overall, I probably sank a few hundred in the stupid lotions. They ONLY work to KEEP the hair and MAY, MAY grow some hair back. May. If you start using the f**king things before you notice your hair falling out, it seems.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 26,159 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    Hpbiea wrote: »
    I appreciate the suggestion, however unfortunately the tight cut thin doesn't suit me. Then again if all else fails then I guess I'll have no other option.
    I dare say it would suit you better than the Trump-style hairpiece, though.

    Give the clip a go. If, having lived with it, you really find it's as bad as you fear it will be, you can grow it out and investigate hairpieces. Clipping has the advantage that it costs much, much less than hairpieces, so you can experiment with it without doing to much permanent damage either to you wallet or to your reputation with the ladies. I'd see the hairpiece as the riskiest and most expensive strategy, and so it, rather than clipping, is the one you should see as the last option.


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