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How to tell the difference between true and false conspiracy theories

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭sponsoredwalk


    uprising2 wrote: »
    again 130,000 people working on the manhattan project and 99.999% hadn't a notion what they were working on.
    People get paid from the neck down, they're not paid to think.

    Again, a really disingenuous comparison. With the Manhattan project the
    lower level people did not know about what was going on but all the
    scientists, who were numerous & highly reputable, knew exactly what
    they were doing & literally had to seeing as the scale of what they were
    doing was so great. Also, in this case we were dealing with an enemy
    like Hitler & the people involved were not killing their own compatriots...
    People who are not paid to think that are involved in this would not let
    this stand by had they garnered an inkling of what was going on. Call me
    overly optimistic but had a menial wage worker caught on to the
    big plan they would not act like a drone they would act in the interests
    of the good of their country as opposed to some evil plan. Also the
    amount of maybe's in your post & the literal fantasy assumptions should
    be enough to indicate to you that you're inventing a story here, why
    don't I employ the same technique: No you see the 911 report is
    false because the video footage & newspapers are also false, they
    fabricated the footage via fox news & Rupert Murdoch to fuel the
    march to war that Cheney needed because his company was secretly
    going bankrupt because the IMF was after his daughter for tax evasion
    originating back to her trip to the Bahama's where she met a clown
    who fathered Ronald MacDonald but was secretly still alive because the
    CIA was injecting him with these special chemicals from Area 51
    but Ronald's father escaped because the CIA are more focused on
    Afghanistan & trying to record secret videos of their prop of Osama Bin
    Laden & trying to find another doppleganger because they killed their
    first prop Bin Laden in an accidental bombing...

    Show us any proof that anyone was in that building at all over the
    few weeks/months prior to 911 planting anything that could be
    remotely considered like a bomb/bombs and also in the other buildings
    or you're literally indulging in a fantasy...


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,229 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    uprising2 wrote: »
    In case your not aware, there are many types of explosive,
    Yes. And usually someone who has had training in handling explosive are the one placing them.
    uprising2 wrote: »
    there are many type of device's/alarms/sensors/monitors/warning systems in all area's of buildings, there is no "odd" place, you really dont have a clue,
    Yes there is. Right against the steel supports of the building.
    You really don't have clue. See I can make dismissive comments too.
    uprising2 wrote: »
    again 130,000 people working on the manhattan project and 99.999% hadn't a notion what they were working on.
    People get paid from the neck down, they're not paid to think.
    Note how 99.999% is a number you're pulling out of your ass.
    Also I'd imagine that the scientists working secret nuclear centrifuges might make the connection. Or the engineers building the secret centrifuges. Or the trained construction workers making the specialises structure needed.
    Or the guys delivering the nuclear materials to a secret base.
    uprising2 wrote: »
    Plastic explosives can be shaped, molded and disguised/hidden in almost anything with a bit of mass.
    Yes it can, but they don't to that in demolitions. and even then you'd need quite a big device (which wouldn't work) to be strapped right against the beam. or a load of little ones.
    uprising2 wrote: »
    Building maintanence would be an ongoing operation, with different crews coming and going, some jobs lasting months, some a few hours, some doing plumbing, electrical, stress tests, steel maintanence, structural maintanence, elevator maintanence, checks, tests, inspections, drills, fault finding, etc.
    One contractor does stage one, another stage 2, another stage 3, none any the wiser,
    So at each stage the number of people involved goes up and up. So now instead of thousands of demolition men doing one stage of a device you've three times as many people doing stuff over three stages all of who don't see anything weird with strapping devices that are oddly heavy and don't work to support beams....
    uprising2 wrote: »
    or maybe they knew exactly what they were doing, I don't really know.
    That's clear.
    uprising2 wrote: »
    Your asking "why did nobody say anything", yet time and again, when shown people "saying something" that doesn't fit the official lie that you believe/swallow you dismiss it, its swings and roundabouts/pissing into the wind and a waste of time and energy engaging you in any way.
    Actually no, you show out of context quotes of people and say that it's evidence.

    But you know, throw a hissy fit if you prefer.... It's much easier than actually defending your claims.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    meglome wrote: »
    Shermer makes that exact point...




    Sure it was a massive operation. It lasted 4 years during a world war. And it's unlikely the guys pouring the concrete knew what they were building at the time. But I'd guess the scientists had a very good idea what was going on or could guess. So I agree in this operation people would follow orders for the most part and keep the secret, at the time. However asking people to go plant explosives in an occupied building is another thing altogether, a building full of thousands of their own fellow citizens. Then getting thousands of other people to cover up numerous aspects of the case, when they knew people had been murdered by their own government. Can you give me an example of where it has been possible to keep an operation like this secret for over 9 years?

    I never said anybody was asked to plant explosives, they most likely weren't aware that they were laying explosives/thermite/unknown component.

    You'd think we were talking about a few small packages. We would be talking about truck load of explosives or thermite. In the experiments no one has even shown that termite could even cut large beams like this. Holes being cut into walls to get at the supports. Wiring all over the place, or some sort of remote control mechanism. All in a full building of 20 thousand people. They manage to place the charges exactly where the planes hit. A spark could set off explosives or thermite, but somehow they didn't go off in the plane impact explosion and fire.

    Should I believe in fairy's too?

    Believe what you want, can't be any more ridiculous than swallowing that pile of sh1te report.

    Explosive Evidence at WTC Cited by Former CDI Employee

    454422.jpg

    1360724009_fd6bfd8ad7.jpg

    But what about all the people who clearly saw the planes? What about the planes parts? What about the personal effects and body parts? Sure if we ignore all the evidence we can suppose anything.

    WTF does that mean?, Global Hawk is a system to fly a real plane remotely, so planes, body parts ect are ok.

    Let's say this is true for a moment. This is one guy dong one thing where the building didn't mysteriously fall down afterwards. This isn't bringing in truck loads of unknown substances and fitting it while making sure no one sees you.

    Maybe I'm not explaining myself correctly, or you cant comprehend what I'm saying, read again what I said.
    The link I was making was that its quite easy to get somebody to do something under false pretences.
    Nobody had to hide while doing anything.

    This covers it I believe...

    The 9/11 Commission's co-chairs said that the 9/11 Commissioners knew that military officials misrepresented the facts to the Commission, and the Commission considered recommending criminal charges for such false statements

    9/11 Commission co-chair Lee Hamilton says "I don't believe for a minute we got everything right", that the Commission was set up to fail, that people should keep asking questions about 9/11, and that the 9/11 debate should continue

    9/11 Commissioner Timothy Roemer said "We were extremely frustrated with the false statements we were getting"

    9/11 Commissioner Max Cleland resigned from the Commission, stating: "It is a national scandal"; "This investigation is now compromised"; and "One of these days we will have to get the full story because the 9-11 issue is so important to America. But this White House wants to cover it up"

    9/11 Commissioner Bob Kerrey said that "There are ample reasons to suspect that there may be some alternative to what we outlined in our version . . . We didn't have access . . . ." He also said that the investigation depended too heavily on the accounts of Al Qaeda detainees who were physically coerced into talking

    And the Senior Counsel to the 9/11 Commission (John Farmer) - who led the 9/11 staff's inquiry - recently said "At some level of the government, at some point in time...there was an agreement not to tell the truth about what happened". He also said "I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described .... The tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years.... This is not spin. This is not true." And he said: "It's almost a culture of concealment, for lack of a better word. There were interviews made at the FAA's New York center the night of 9/11 and those tapes were destroyed. The CIA tapes of the interrogations were destroyed. The story of 9/11 itself, to put it mildly, was distorted and was completely different from the way things happened"




    Again this is so easy to say. But getting truck loads of material fitted into walls on a number of floors is not easy. It's takes months to prep large buildings for demo. So doing this in a building with more than 20 thousand people working in it is for all intents and purposes impossible. Remember not one person saw a thing. Not one person has come forward.



    This isn't accidentally delivering a letter bomb. This is planting large quantities of explosive materials into a building. And that's just one aspect of what would need to be covered up. The list of people involved would be in the thousands. There has never been a cover-up like this is recorded history as far as I can see. The truth always outs but somehow with 911 we should believe it hasn't, which along with the official reports lead me to believe we already know most of the truth.

    The 9/11 Commission Rejects own Report as Based on Government Lies
    The 9/11 Commission now tells us that the official version of 9/11 was based on false testimony and documents and is almost entirely untrue. The details of this massive cover-up are carefully outlined in a book by John Farmer, who was the Senior Counsel for the 9/11 Commission.
    http://www.salem-news.com/articles/september112009/911_truth_9-11-09.php

    One of the commissioners says the report was lies/untrue, what more do you want?????


    I give up, stupidity knows no boundries.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,229 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    uprising2 wrote: »
    The 9/11 Commission Rejects own Report as Based on Government Lies
    The 9/11 Commission now tells us that the official version of 9/11 was based on false testimony and documents and is almost entirely untrue. The details of this massive cover-up are carefully outlined in a book by John Farmer, who was the Senior Counsel for the 9/11 Commission.
    http://www.salem-news.com/articles/september112009/911_truth_9-11-09.php

    One of the commissioners says the report was lies/untrue, what more do you want?????


    I give up, stupidity knows no boundries.
    Which is exactly what people would say if there was a lot of ass covering after the attacks due to ****ty management and general government **** ups which lead to failures in intelligence. Those out of context quotes do not mean the government planned the attacks.

    And seriously dude? Those photos again?
    Talk about pissing in the wind...


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭sponsoredwalk


    Exactly & because we're in a thread discussing Shermer, even though
    this is just plain obvious
    , I'll mention Shermer's point about "No holes, no
    holocaust!".

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-461417578620812127#

    That video should explain it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    King Mob wrote: »
    Which is exactly what people would say if there was a lot of ass covering after the attacks due to ****ty management and general government **** ups which lead to failures in intelligence. Those out of context quotes do not mean the government planned the attacks.

    And seriously dude? Those photos again?
    Talk about pissing in the wind...


    Yeah, so you agree that the report is full of lies, OR are they only little white lies, like the ones Forrest Gump tells.

    Common sense, evidence and admissions say lies, a few posters here say truth....:confused::confused::confused:

    Caught in their own lies

    9/11 Commission admits excluding intelligence on lead hijacker, Atta

    http://www.wsws.org/articles/2005/aug2005/able-a12.shtml



    <H1>9/11 Panel Suspected Deception by Pentagon</H1><H2 style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 10px">Allegations Brought to Inspectors General

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/01/AR2006080101300.html

    Did the Pentagon Lie To 9/11 Commission?
    http://whitehouser.com/news/pentagon-lies-to-september-11th-commission/

    9/11 Commission controversy
    http://web.archive.org/web/20080407223205/http://deepbackground.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/01/30/624314.aspx


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  • Registered Users Posts: 25,229 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    uprising2 wrote: »
    Yeah, so you agree that the report is full of lies, OR are they only little white lies, like the ones Forrest Gump tells.

    Common sense, evidence and admissions say lies, a few posters here say truth....:confused::confused::confused:

    Ok lets try this another way.
    Suppose for a moment you haven't already closed your mind and decided on your story, would all those quotes be adequately explained by the scenario I suggested above with no government involvement in the attacks?
    If not, why not?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭sponsoredwalk


    How does the fact that the 911 report excluded information about Atta
    mean that, by default, explosives were put in the WTC? :D

    How does excluded information, in general, imply there exists a logical
    connective to the 'thesis' that explosives were put in the WTC? :confused:

    How does excluded information, in general, imply that the US leaders
    had anything to do with 911 beyond the already acknowledged involvement?

    I hate to mention something extremely obvious but this mode of approach
    is no different to a creationist who, when finding one gap in the fossil record,
    claims that gaps mean evolution is bogus & creationism is the logical
    fall back position :eek::confused: I'd love to see how I'm wrong about this comparison
    if it offends you as well because I can't see how it's not right :confused:


  • Registered Users Posts: 806 ✭✭✭Divorce Referendum


    uprising2 wrote: »
    What do you mean it isn't true?, you have a hard time distinguishing whats real from what's not, my story is real, the commission's story is false.

    Well I was kind of hoping it wasnt true. That story proves how gullible you are. A simple mixture of salt and water would do the trick but you go and piss in a barrel for two days. Well done!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    Well I was kind of hoping it wasnt true. That story proves how gullible you are. A simple mixture of salt and water would do the trick but you go and piss in a barrel for two days. Well done!


    No a simple salt and water mix would not do the trick, acid is needed.
    Urine has all three and gives a lovely blue/green patina fairly quickly.

    Next...

    Back on topic:

    Came across this article:

    Hermits and Cranks: Lessons from Martin Gardner on Recognizing Pseudoscientists

    Fifty years ago Gardner launched the modern skeptical movement. Unfortunately, much of what he wrote about is still current today
    By Michael Shermer | May 23, 2010 | 35

    BLAH, BLAH, BLAH

    Michael Shermer is founding publisher of Skeptic magazine (www.skeptic.com) and author of How We Believe and The Borderlands of Science.
    http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=hermits-and-cranks-lesson

    This dikkhead gets a lot of front in scientificAmerican for a "founding publisher and author", and he's explaining how to suss out pseudoscientist's, so an author (can't see any other qualification attributed to him in the artice) is allowed write in scientific american aboutpseudoscientist's despite the fact he is one.

    Yet "our own;)" Professor Hall can't get a blank page or even half from them, another case of "not what you know, but who you know".


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭sponsoredwalk


    That is the most illogical post I've read in this whole thread.
    First bring up recently deceased Martin Gardner for the hell of it.
    Then write BLAH BLAH BLAH where Shermer makes arguments.
    To top it all off add in the standard rhetoric & insults using nothing
    to justify anything you say while hinting at more conspiracy "who you know....".
    What's worse is that you've been asked a good few questions to which
    you still haven't provided any answers & I'd say it's because you can't
    offer up any because your last statements were similarly, though not as,
    ridiculous. Crazy...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    That is the most illogical post I've read in this whole thread.
    First bring up recently deceased Martin Gardner for the hell of it.
    Then write BLAH BLAH BLAH where Shermer makes arguments.
    To top it all off add in the standard rhetoric & insults using nothing
    to justify anything you say while hinting at more conspiracy "who you know....".
    What's worse is that you've been asked a good few questions to which
    you still haven't provided any answers & I'd say it's because you can't
    offer up any because your last statements were similarly, though not as,
    ridiculous. Crazy...

    If you've been asking me
    questions in there with the
    lyrics or poems your
    trying to write
    I havent seen them
    because I havent read
    anything that
    you've wrote, it's a
    mess and I wont be wasting
    my time reading it and I
    wasnt hinting at anything
    , I was stating it, and so what
    if he's dead, did I disrespect
    him in any way, or did I
    bring him up even?, schermer
    did, not
    me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭sponsoredwalk


    As of now two people in this thread , and this thread exclusively on boards,
    who prefer to ignore the content of my writing because of it's appearance
    rather than get over their own personal issues as regards appearances &
    address it. Funny how both people also used ridiculous arguments that really
    can't be defended. Really is my loss :rolleyes:


    ...Just got to say it for the laugh :D You say you wont be responding to
    my arguments because of the structure of the post yet in that same
    post you actually address some of the points, I mean way to contradict
    yourself ;)

    You both know where the ignore 'button' is...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    As of now two people in this thread , and this thread exclusively on boards,
    who prefer to ignore the content of my writing because of it's appearance
    rather than get over their own personal issues as regards appearances &
    address it. Funny how both people also used ridiculous arguments that really
    can't be defended. Really is my loss :rolleyes:


    ...Just got to say it for the laugh :D You say you wont be responding to
    my arguments because of the structure of the post yet in that same
    post you actually address some of the points, I mean way to contradict
    yourself ;)

    You both know where the ignore 'button' is...


    Your structure is part of it, mainly it's the crap you write that puts me off looking at it.

    If you want to go fetch your questions, put them here, leave a blank line between questions, I'll be happy to answer them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭sponsoredwalk


    Wow, again you go off making statements for which you provide no
    evidence whatsoever. Oh wait, every post I make is evidence because
    the shape of it is visible so I guess that means you're also right that
    I'm writing crap, just in the way that Atta being excluded from the 911
    report also, by default, means there were exposives in the WTC :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    Wow, again you go off making statements for which you provide no
    evidence whatsoever. Oh wait, every post I make is evidence because
    the shape of it is visible so I guess that means you're also right that
    I'm writing crap, just in the way that Atta being excluded from the 911
    report also, by default, means there were exposives in the WTC :D

    Why are you making this crap up, I posted a link about evidence being withheld about atta, I didn't say that it showed, hinted or was in anyway proof that explosives were planted, all that evidence is totally seperate, but you'd like to try muddy the waters with the usual bullsh1t trying to materialize connections where they dont exist, go back and read it again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21 AnthonyHall


    All this began with my allegation that Michael Shermer has not read the works of Professor David Ray Griffin, who unlike the TV professor is a real professor with a lifelong career of distinguished scholarship at Claremont Graduate University.

    I called the TV professor a disgrace to the academy, not a disgrace to the economy. Shermer purposely misquoted me to direct attention away from the seriousness of my allegation.

    The fact that no one in Shermer's entourage demonstrates the least interest in addressing what I allege is the great disparity between Professor Griffin's systematic scholarship and Shermer's "woo woo" pseudo-scholarship speaks volumes.

    Shermer misrepresented his credentials as an economist and now Patrick Ross, one of Shermer's defenders, has successfully been sued for his defamation of the Canadian Cynic. The whole corrupt house of cards defending the indefensible and unsupportable official conspiracy theory of 9/11 is coming unglued. Its about time!

    No matter how much oxytocin that Shermer and his psy ops associate Dr. Love Zak apply in their sad attempt to generate "trust" in their discredited worldview, history is moving beyond the obsolescence of these relics of the era of TV hypnosis.

    Only 9/11 Truth can bring to an end the 9/11 Wars and the Islamophobia flowing from Shermeresque misrepresentations.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    I respectfully disagree.

    A skeptic OP http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056021377 posts an sceptical article written by a prominent skeptic (who happens to be the publisher of Skeptic magazine) about a lecture he has given to his sceptical audience about how to be a better skeptic.

    If this shouldn't be in Irish Skeptics then I don't know what should.
    That's a bizarre post. If you* are not sceptical about things, what the hell are you? A believer?

    *I don't specifically mean you here, BB


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,327 ✭✭✭AhSureTisGrand


    mawdz wrote: »
    Just to calrify beacause afer your post im unsure:

    This is the Conspiracy Theory Froum?
    Conspiracys are basically an widely unaccpeted and debateable expelnation for an occurance, an event, a group etc...?
    That when something describe as theory it means that it was neither proven true nor false.(usually not possible to do either or just currently unexplored areas that can prove it either)

    Basically you can't have a true of false (good or bad)conspiracy theory because if you do then the name changes from conspiracy theory to FACT! Every conspiracy theory is a theory, some may be wacky, some may be made up, some maybe true but the truth not revealed but untill proven otherwise it remains just a Conpiracy thoery .

    I recently heard of a Conspiracy theory that this thread does not exist as it is just a glitch in all human minds which visit boards. Prove me right or wrong?
    Look up the word "conspiracy"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,327 ✭✭✭AhSureTisGrand


    Does the word "skeptic" mean here that someone is sceptical of conspiracy theories or sceptical of what most accept as the true explanation?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Does the word "skeptic" mean here that someone is sceptical of conspiracy theories or sceptical of what most accept as the true explanation?
    I think it's the second one that isn't welcome. Personally, I regard scepticism as an essential tool in the modern world. Anyone who swallows dodgy evidence for or against a CT is severly lacking in scepticism.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭studiorat


    I am constantly fascinated by how it is only academics who are interested other academics' "academic credentials" (what a mouthful)!

    As if Hall's pissing contest is actually any meaningful measure of whether an argument carries any water or not. Personally I think there may be a grain of truth each, I don't believe for a second though, that there's a conspiracy remotely as big as Hall describes.

    So we'll have a look : Shermer : PhD in History of Science 1991.
    From CGU website Nov. 2007.
    Though Shermer has over twenty years of collegiate teaching experience, his writing and publishing duties have kept him out of the classroom since 1998.
    Until he returned to lecturing in 2007 according to the CGU site.

    Browsing over Professor Hall's Globalization course it seems to have 3 books on the course, one of which is his! Good way to sell a few I suppose. There seem's to be 50% for one 3,000 word paper submitted. So not exactly the most difficult course in the world. No mention of Hall's academic background though.

    Here's his rate my professor page which is a hoot! : http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=17183&page=3
    You will learn nothing in this class except how to apply the word "Orwellian" to everything from America to Zoo keepers. His hatred for the right could only be expressed more by the throwing of molotov cocktails in class. Lunatic

    Though it would seem he gets his fair share of starry eyed young provocateurs hanging on every word he says.
    I can't help but get the feeling that even getting behind the lectern in Claremont is a lot harder to get than into than heading up a part time course in U of L.
    Maybe AH would like to impress us with his bits of paper?


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    Does the word "skeptic" mean here that someone is sceptical of conspiracy theories or sceptical of what most accept as the true explanation?

    The word Sceptic (skeptic in US English) would mean someone who questions accepted beliefs, facts or theories. They withold belief in any given situation in the absence of evidence. In my experience I've really only seen skeptics question ideas that are outside the status quo.

    It's rather easy to call yourself a skeptic and wear it as a badge of honour without actually being a true skeptic. For example, you will rarely (if at all) see a skeptic differ on opinion or challenge another who claims to be a skeptic on any issue that outside the status quo. This group are more accurately called pseudoskeptics as they are not interested in the truth if it goes against their fixed positions.

    Hope that helps. :)


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    studiorat wrote: »
    Though it would seem he gets his fair share of starry eyed young provocateurs hanging on every word he says.
    That's impressive! You can tell a lot about people from a single anonymous internet post. Even their age!! What age am I?

    Saved your insults for those who spoke well of Prof. Hall and nothing for those who (apparently) spoke out against him. Funny that. You wouldn't be biased would you?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    The word Sceptic (skeptic in US English) would mean someone who questions accepted beliefs, facts or theories. They withold belief in any given situation in the absence of evidence. In my experience I've really only seen skeptics question ideas that are outside the status quo.

    It's rather easy to call yourself a skeptic and wear it as a badge of honour without actually being a true skeptic. For example, you will rarely (if at all) see a skeptic differ on opinion or challenge another who claims to be a skeptic on any issue that outside the status quo. This group are more accurately called pseudoskeptics as they are not interested in the truth if it goes against their fixed positions.

    Hope that helps. :)
    Yes, but in the context of the CT world, accepted beliefs are that the Illuminati are behind everything, and the Freemasons, and the Bilderbergers, and the Skull and Bones, and Opus Dei, and the CIA, and the Lizards. So the true sceptic in the CT world is the person who questions those accepted beliefs.


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    Yes, but in the context of the CT world, accepted beliefs are that the Illuminati are behind everything, and the Freemasons, and the Bilderbergers, and the Skull and Bones, and Opus Dei, and the CIA, and the Lizards. So the true sceptic in the CT world is the person who questions those accepted beliefs.

    What is this "CT world" you speak of? And how did you become such an expert on it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,327 ✭✭✭AhSureTisGrand


    The word Sceptic (skeptic in US English) would mean someone who questions accepted beliefs, facts or theories. They withold belief in any given situation in the absence of evidence. In my experience I've really only seen skeptics question ideas that are outside the status quo.

    It's rather easy to call yourself a skeptic and wear it as a badge of honour without actually being a true skeptic. For example, you will rarely (if at all) see a skeptic differ on opinion or challenge another who claims to be a skeptic on any issue that outside the status quo. This group are more accurately called pseudoskeptics as they are not interested in the truth if it goes against their fixed positions.

    Hope that helps. :)

    Yeah I'm still trying to teach my iPod proper English :L

    Would you agree that the word "sceptical" is relative? For example, I I were to proclaim, "I'm sceptical" the only response would be, "sceptical of what?" So perhaps you can be a sceptic in relation to one thing but not another ie it needn't be an absolute


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21 AnthonyHall


    Studiorat demonstrates my point. It is Professor Griffin, not me, who wrote ten books on various aspects of 9/11. I am not saying I agree with Prof. Griffin in every detail of his work but his oeuvre does form one of the primary monuments of academic literature in the field. Until Michael Shermer and his merry band of pseudo-skeptics do their homework and address the key works of scholarship in the field of 9/11 Studies, they are simply posturing. They are simply lending credence to those who might theorize, rightly or wrongly, that they are knowing or inadvertent operatives in a cover-up of historic proportions.

    Michael Shermer is not a career academic who has gone through standard procedures of peer review for tenure and promotion. Indeed, as far as I can see he has never obtained a tenure stream appointment at an American university. If I am wrong on this point, I would appreciate being presented with the relevant evidence. Certainly Shermer has no professional claim to being an economist, a claim he did assert until I exchanged correspondence with the Dean of Politics and Economics at Claremont.

    Michael Shermer does a bit of team teaching at Claremont with Professor Zak on a part-time basis in something called Transdisciplinary Studies. It seems he also helps attract some outside funding to Claremont for his involvement in research projects dealing with the application of oxytocin to capitalism's real or imagined workings. Shermer's role at Claremont is definitely ephemeral compared with that of Prof. Griffin, who has devoted his career to genuine scholarship rather than to the show business razz matazz that is the TV professor's metier.

    Until 2008 I interpreted the events of 9/11 as what Chalmers Johnson referred to in a book of the same name as "blowback." Finally a colleague forced me to evaluate the available evidence including the publications of of Prof. Griffin and Berkeley Prof. Peter Dale Scott, the inventor of the term Deep Politics.

    Why do Shermer and his flock of pseudo-skeptics satisfy themselves with simply taking cheap shots at the likes of me and Joshua Blakeney as messengers of unwanted news? What is preventing them from addressing the smaller and larger points in the most authoritative literature on the subject of what did or did not happen on 9/11? If I am to be demeaned because I am a professor in Alberta rather than California, then so be it. But such attacks to do apply to Prof. Griffin who, like me, outranks Michael Shermer by a long shot.

    If I am to be scrutinized, the appropriate starting point for those seeking to evaluate the quality of my my academic work on 9/11 and the genesis of the privatized terror economy would be to read the relevant portions of my recent book, Earth into Property.

    Let me make it clear, however, that I am simply not in the same ball park as Prof. Griffin when it comes to the subject of 9/11 Studies. I include the subject of 9/11 in Earth into Property but I put this subject in the context of a global history spanning several centuries.

    So far Michael Shermer has not shown even entry level knowledge on the subject of 9/11 Studies to contribute anything of academic worth. Perhaps that will change in the future now that the TV professor's carelessness even with the truth of his own credentials has been subjected to scrutiny. In the meantime, Shermer's generalizing about how to tell real from false conspiracy theories is nothing but an expression of the man's intellectual laziness and his unwillingness to engage the relevant evidence, including the careful scholarship of Prof. Griffin.

    Familiarizing myself with the work of Michael Shermer and climate change entrepreneur, Fred Guterl, at Scientific American is giving me new insights into the workings of the privatized terror economy and its agents of propaganda.

    CURRICULUM VITAE
    ANTHONY JAMES HALL
    Professor and Founding Coordinator of Globalization Studies
    Liberal Education
    University of Lethbridge

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    Born: 4 April, 1951. Toronto, Canada
    Citizenships: Canadian; Irish
    Academic Appointments

    *May 2008, promoted to Full Professor of Globalization Studies
    *August, 2006, appointed Associate Professor of Liberal Arts
    *July, 2002, appointed Founding Coordinator of Globalization Studies, U of Lethbridge
    *January, 1990, appointed Associate Professor of Native American Studies, U of L
    * Assistant Professor, Dept. of Native Studies, University of
    Sudbury, 1982-1989 (tenured, 1989)
    Education

    Ph.D., History, University of Toronto, 1984
    Major Field Canadian History, 1763-1914
    Minor Fields British Empire History, 1850 - present
    Historical Geography of Ontario
    Thesis Title: "The Red Man's Burden: Land, Law, and the Lord in the Indian Affairs of Upper Canada, 1791-1858" (supervised by Prof. J. M.S. Careless)

    M.A., History, York University, 1976

    Honours B.A., History/Political Science
    Glendon College, York University, 1975

    Teaching Subject
    Introduction to Native Studies (Laurentian U)
    Introduction to Native American Studies (U of Lethbridge)
    Contemporary Native Issues
    Aboriginal Peoples, Politics, and Law
    Native American Politics
    Canadian Indian History
    History of Indian Treaties
    History of Private Property in Indian Country
    The Indian History of British Columbia
    US Indian History
    Indigenous Peoples in the Global Community
    Globalization Since 1492
    Capital, Culture, and Globalization
    The American Empire and the Fourth World

    Academic Publications

    Books

    Earth into Property: Colonization, Decolonization and Capitalism. Vol. 2 of The Bowl with One Spoon (Montreal: McGill-Queen’s University Press, 2010), hardcover and paperback editions, 934 pages
    Selected by The Independent in UK as a Christmas pick
    for one of the best books of 2010

    The American Empire and the Fourth World. Vol. 1 of The Bowl With One Spoon (Montreal: McGill-Queen’s University Press, 2003), first paperback edition, 2005
    Winner of the Wilfed Eggleston Award for
    best non-fiction work by an Albertan author, 2004/2005

    Chapters 10 and 11 in Reader’s Digest, Through Indian Eyes: The Untold Story of Native Peoples (Montreal: Reader’s Digest, 1996)

    Celebrating Together: Native People and Ontario's Bicentennial, (Manitoulin Island: Plowshare Press, 1984) 53 pp., reprinted in Rikka, Vol. 9, no. 3, autumn, 1984, pp. 1-43

    Academic Essays, including peer-reviewed and commissioned articles

    "Imagining Civilization on the Frontiers of Aboriginality,” in The Indigenous Experience: Global Perspectives, Roger C.A. Maaka and Chris Andersen, eds. (Toronto: Canadian Scholars’ Press, 2006), pp. 249-266

    “The Colonial Genesis of the War on Terror,” Political Violence and Human Security in the Post-9.11 World, (JCAS Symposium Series 24. State , Nation and Ethnic Relations IX), Obiya Chika and Kuroki Hidemitsui, eds. (Osaka: The Japan Center for Area Studies, National Museum of Ethnology, 2006), pp. 69-79

    “The Assembly of First Nations,” Oxford Companion to Canadian History, Gerry Hallowell,ed (Don Mills: Oxford University Press, 2004)

    “Aboriginal People and the Meech Lake Accord: Critical Perspectives, “ in Multiculturalism and Immigration in Canada: An Introductory Reader, Elspeth Cameron, ed. (Toronto: Canadian Scholars’ Press, 2004)

    “Native Activism,” in Canada, Confederation to Present: An Interactive History of Canada. CD-ROM, Bob Hesketh and Chris Hackett, eds., (Edmonton: Chinook Multimedia, 2001)

    A Note on Canadian Treaties, in R. Douglas Francis and Donald B. Smith, eds., Readings in Canadian History, Post-Confederation. Sixth Edition, (Toronto: Nelson Thompson Learning, 2002), pp. 474-479

    “Global Colonialism, 1492-2001,” Cultural Survival Quarterly, Vol. 25, no. 3, 2001, p. 35

    with Splitting The Sky, “Red Tories, Red Power: ‘The Protection of Indian Rights and the Security of the Canadas,’” in Archbishop Lazar Puhalo, ed., Searching for Canada: The Red Tory Journey (Dewdney BC: Synaxis Press, 2000), pp. 29-69

    "RCAP's Big Blindspots," Blind Spots: An Examination of the Federal Government’s Response to the Report of the Royal Commission on Aboriginal Peoples, (Ottawa: Aboriginal Rights Coalition, 2001), pp. 66-80

    “Racial Discrimination in Legislation, Litigation, Legend and Lore, Canadian Ethnic Studies, Vol. 32, no. 2. 2000, pp. 119-135

    “Indian Treaties,” in The Canadian Encyclopedia. Year 2000 Edition (Toronto: McClelland and Stewart, 2000), pp. 148-157

    “A Note on Treaties,” in Tom Molloy with Donald Ward, The World Is Our Witness: The Historic Journey of the Nisga’a Into Canada (Calgary: Fifth House, 2000), pp. 3-10

    "Cleaning Up Canada," Literary Review of Canada, Vol. 7, no. 11, September, 1999, pp. 11-12

    "Who To Blame For Native Abuse: State, Churches Or All of Us?" The Literary Review of Canada, Vol. 6, no. 2, May, 1997, pp. 12-14

    “Indian Treaties,” The 1997 Canadian Encyclopedia Plus (CD-ROM Edition) (Toronto: McClelland and Stewart, 1996)

    "Treaties, Trains, and Troubled National Dreams: Reflections on the Indian Summer in Northern Ontario, 1990," in Law, Society and the State: Essays in Modern Legal History, Louis A. Knafla and Susan W.S. Binnie, eds. (Toronto: University of Toronto Press, 1995), pp. 290-321

    "Strangulating Liberal Arts and Native American Studies in Alberta," Literary Review of Canada, Vol. 4, no. 6, June 1995, pp. 17-18

    "Who Killed Dudley George?: Reflections on Ipperwash and Gustafsen Lake," Canadian Dimension, Vol. 29, Dec. 1995/Jan. 1996, pp. 8-12

    "Many Nations, Few States," Semiotextes Canadas (New York: Semiotexte, 1994), pp. 39-46

    "The Politics of Aboriginality: Political Fault-Lines in Indian Country," Canadian Dimension, Vol. 27, no. 1, Jan./Feb., 1993, pp. 6-10

    "Blockade at Long Lake 58," Anne-Marie Mawhiney, ed., Rebirth: Political, Economic, and Social Development in First Nations, (Toronto: Dundurn, 1993), pp. 66-89

    "Canada as Indian Country," The Literary Review of Canada, November, 1993, pp. 14-18

    "Canada as Indian Country," The Literary Review of Canada, December, 1993, pp. 20-23

    "A Canadian Perspective in Native Studies," Canadian Review of Studies in Nationalism, Vol. 20, nos. 1-2, 1993, pp. 79-86

    "Blockades and Bannock: Aboriginal Protests and Politics in Northern Ontario, 1980-1990,Wicazo Sa Review, Vol. 7, no. 2, 1991, pp. 58-77

    "Theoretical Discourse in Native Studies," Association for Canadian Studies Newsletter/Bulletin de l'Association d` études canadiennes, Vol. 14, no. 1, 1992, pp. 41-43

    "The Future of Native Studies in Canada," The Literary Review of Canada, Vol. 1, no. 5, May, 1992, pp. 10-13

    "The Politics of Aboriginality: Political Fault-Lines in Indian Country," Canadian Dimension, Vol. 27, no. 1, Jan./Feb., 1993, pp. 6-10

    "The Future of Native Studies in Canada," The Literary Review of Canada, Vol. 1, no. 5, May, 1992, pp. 10-13

    "Indian Summer, Canadian Winter" Report on the Americas (Special Edition) The First Nations, 1492-1992, Vol. 25, no. 3, Dec., 1991, pp. 34-37, 46

    "Tony Hall Responds," Report on the Americas, Vol. 26, no. 1, July, 1992, pp. 11-12

    “Aboriginal Issues and the New Political Map of Canada” in J.L. Granastein and Kenneth McNaught, eds. "English Canada" Speaks Out (Toronto: Doubleday Canada, 1991), pp. 122-140

    "The St. Catherine's Milling and Lumber Company Versus the Queen: Indian Land Rights as a Factor in Federal-Provincial Relations in Nineteenth-Century Canada" in Kerry Abel and Jean Friesen, eds., Aboriginal Resource Use in Canada: Historical and Legal Aspects (Winnipeg: University of Manitoba Press, 1991) pp. 267-286

    "Review Article" on Francis Jennings, Empire of Fortune: Crowns, Colonies and Tribes in the Seven Years War in America (New York: W.W. Norton, 1988) in The American Indian Quarterly, Vol. 15, no. 1, Winter, 1991, pp. 105-108

    "Native Self-Government: Comments on the Federal Proposals," The Network: Newsletter of the Network on the Constitution, Vol. 1, no. 5, Oct., 1991, pp. 7-8

    "Fed Up With Being Left Out in the Cold," Canadian Politics 90/91, Gregory S. Mahler and Roman R. March, eds. (Guilford Connecticut: Dushkin Publishing Group, 1990) pp. 23-24

    "Where Justice Lies: Aboriginal Rights and Wrongs in Temagami," in Matt Bray and Ashley Thompson, eds. Temagami: A Debate on Wilderness (Toronto: Dundurn Press, 1990) pp. 223-53

    "Native Limited Identities and Newcomer Metropolitanism in Upper Canada, 1814-1867," David Keane and Colin Read, eds. Old Ontario: Essays in Honour of J.M.S. Careless, (Toronto: Dundurn Press, 1990) pp. 148-173

    "What Are We? Chopped Liver? Aboriginal Affairs in the Constitutional Politics of Canada in the 1980s, The Meech Lake Primer: Conflicting Views of the 1987 Constitutional Accord, Michael Behiels, ed. (Ottawa: University of Ottawa Press, 1989) pp. 423-56

    with Michael Posluns, "Assembly of First Nations", The Canadian Encyclopedia (Second Edition) (Edmonton: Hurtig, 1988) Vol. 1, p. 135 (aussi publié en francais)

    "Indian Treaties", The Canadian Encyclopedia (Second Edition), Vol. 2, pp. 1056-1059 (aussi publié en francais)

    "The Royal Proclamation of 1763", The Canadian Encyclopedia (Second Edition), Vol. 3, p. 1897 (aussi publié en francais)

    "John Aisance", Dictionary of Canadian Biography, Francess G. Halpenny, gen ed. (Toronto: University of Toronto Press, 1988) Vol. 7, pp. 11-12 (aussi publié en francais)

    "Closing an Incomplete Circle of Confederation: A Brief to the Joint Parliamentary Committee of the Federal Government on the 1987 Constitutional Accord", The Canadian Journal of Native Studies, Vol. 6, no. 2, 1986, pp. 197-221

    "Robert Brooking," Dictionary of Canadian Biography, Vol. 12, 1990, pp. 127-28 (aussi publié en francais)

    "The Genesis of Native Studies in Canada" in Canada's Sub-arctic Universities/Les universites canadiennes du moyen nord, Peter Adams and Doug Parker, eds. (Ottawa: Association of Canadian Universities for Northern Studies, 1987) pp. 192-205

    The N'ungosuk Report: A Study in Aboriginal Language Renewal, (West Bay: Two Bears Cultural Survival Group, 1987) 37 pages

    "Home Ground: The Struggle for Native Rights During the Trudeau Years”, Horizon Canada, Vol. 4, no. 38, Nov. 1985, pp. 902-907 (aussi publié en francais)

    "The Politics of Indian Policy: The Indian Reserve at Coldwater and the Narrows", Horizon Canada, Vol. 7, no. 83, Oct. 1986, pp. 1988-1992 (aussi publié en francais)

    "Self-Government or Self-Delusion? Brian Mulroney and Aboriginal Rights", Canadian Journal of Native Studies, Vol. 6, no. 1, 1986, pp. 77-90

    "The Kawartha Indian Missions: The Larger Picture", Heritage: Proceedings of the Kawartha Conference, A.O.C. Cole and Jean Murray Cole, eds. (Peterborough: Historical Atlas Foundation, 1981) pp. 13-21

    "A Consideration of `The Newcomers....Inhabiting a New Land'", The Canadian Historical Review, Vol. 62, no. 2, June, 1981, pp. 252-57

    "Getting It Right: The Films vs. the Facts as told by a Canadian Historian", Cinema Canada, no. 47, June, 1978, pp. 14-19


    Recent Presentations

    The Haldimand Deed in International Perspective, invited presentation at Kanata Community Centre in the Mohawk Village of the Six Nations Reserve, 7 November, 2010

    A Red Tory View of Tea Parties, Conservatism, Revolutions and Such: Notes for the Book Launch of Earth into Property”at Ben McNally’s Bookstore, 366 Bay Street, Toronto, Nov. 2, 6 pm, 2010

    at
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggyTFlCoB7U


    *Breaking Through a Wall of Police Protection for International Crime: The Trial of Splitting The Sky as a Trial of the Cheney-Bush-Rumsfeld Cabal of War Profiteers, presentation for Montreal 9/11 Truth, 5 December, 2009
    at
    http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20091204151919219

    *Should George W. Bush Be arrested in Calgary Alberta and Tried for International Crimes," Annual Invited Guest Speaker of the Sociology Department at the University of Winnipeg, March 6, 2009

    at
    http://www.voltairenet.org/article159233.html
    http://911blogger.com/node/19540

    *The Lies and Crimes of 9/11: A Canadian View of the War on Terror's Origins, Paper presented at Edmonton Questions 9/11: Convention and Film," Stanley A. Milner Public Library Theatre, 6 September, 2008
    at
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=10117

    *Teaching About Globalization in University and High School, A Presentation to Social Studies Teachers with Special Reference to the new Grade 10 Curriculum in Alberta,” Lethbridge Collegiate Institute, 22 January, 2007

    *Employing Digital Communications Networks in the Teaching of Humanities and Social Sciences,” invited presenter to Netera Days 2006: Connecting Alberta’s Pockets of Excellence, 27 October, 2006, University of Lethbridge

    *The New Media and the Teaching of Globalization Studies, Interface 06, Alberta-wide conference on the New Media hosted by the Curriculum Re-Development Centre and the Alberta Distance Education and Training Association, University of Lethbridge, 11 May, 2006

    *“Overview of Canadian History.” Presented at a conference entitled “Canada-Our Home, Know Your Country: Its History, Politics, Law and Media.” Organized by the Canadian Islamic Conference, World Islamic Call Society, and the Taric Islamic Centre, Days Hotel, Toronto, September 3-4, 2005.

    *The Colonial Genesis of the War on Terror, 1492 to present, presented at a conference entitled “Political Violence and Human Security in the Post-9.11 World.” Organized by the Japan Center for Area Studies, National Museum of Ethnology. UN University in Tokyo, December 18-19, 2004.

    *The American Empire and the Fourth World: After the Election, A Presentation by Tony Hall, University of Lethbridge. Organized by the Faculty of Arts at the University of Regina, 19 November, 2004. Published as “Where Is America Going? A Call to Resist the Onslaught of a New American Century,” Canadian Dimension, January/April, 2005

    *From Columbus to Abu Ghraib, From Conquest to Disinformation, Organized as the Toronto launch of The American Empire and the Fourth World by Another Story Bookshop, Toronto, 7 July 2004.

    *Bandung, The Non-Aligned Movement, and the Fourth World, for New Horizons of Knowledge, Native Studies Colloquium Series, University of Manitoba, 13 October, 2004.

    *British Columbia, The Fourth World, and Globalization, with a special tribute to George Manuel. Organized jointly by McGill-Queen’s University Press and the Union of BC Indian Chiefs in Vancouver, 26 February, 2004.

    *From British Columbia to Kurdistan, Iraq, and the West Bank: Aboriginal Title as an Emerging Concept in International Law and Global Geopolitics. Presentation for the Law and Society Series of the UBC Law School, Green College, 25 February 2004.

    *Red Tories vs. Right Wingers: The Royal Proclamation vs. The American Declaration of Independence.” Presented on November 16, 2003, at a conference entitled, “Challenging Empire: Citizenship, Sovereignties, and Self-Determination.” Organized by Parkland Institute at the University of Alberta.

    *The American Empire and Aboriginal Title.” Paper presented on September 19, 2003, at a conference entitled Delgamuukw, Mabo, and Yselta: Native Title in Canada, Australia, and the United States.” Organized by Research Unit for Socio-Legal Studies, University of Calgary, Faculty of Social Sciences. Paper published at Turtle Island web site.

    *The Declaration of Independence vs. The Royal Proclamation of 1763: Revolution and Empire in the Genesis of Globalization. Paper presented on July 10, 2003 at the British World Conference, Calgary Institute for the Humanities, University of Calgary.

    *Academic Freedom in Dangerous Times, Presentation organized by the University of Saskatchewan Faculty Association at the U of S Faculty Club, 2 March, 2002.

    *What Is Globalization, Presentation to the Southern Alberta Council on Public Affairs, Lethbridge Alberta, 14 November, 2002.

    *Activism and Power.” One of three presenters for a CBC Radio “Ideas” show looking a Protest and Power. Organized on 14 June, 2002 by the Calgary Institute for the Humanities at the EPCORE Centre for the Performing Arts.

    *Featured Presenter, “Leonard Peltier Teach In,” University of Alberta, 32 June, 2001, Sponsors include Woodsworth-Irvine Socialist Fellowship, Edmonton and District Labor Council


    Book Reviews

    Sandra Lambertus, Wartime Images, Peacetime Wounds: The Media and the Gustafsen Lake Standoff (Toronto: University of Toronto Press, 2004) in Canadian Historical Review, Vol. 86, no. 3, 2005, pp. 562-564

    “Patricians of Dissent,” review article on Gore Vidal’s Imperial America and Lewis Lapham’s Gag Rule, The Globe and Mail, 24 July, 2004, pp. D8-D9

    Theodore Binnema, Common and Contested Ground: A Human and Environmental History of the Northwestern Plains (Norman: University of Oklahoma Press, 2002) in Pacific Historical Review, Vol. 72, no. 3, 2002, pp. 450-451

    “Review Article,” Constance Backhouse, Colour-Coded: A Legal History of Racism in Canada, 1900-1950 (Toronto: The Osgoode Society for Canadian Legal History and the University of Toronto Press, 1999) and James W. St. G. Walker, Race,” Rights and the Law in the Supreme Court of Canada (Waterloo: The Osgoode Society for Legal History and Wilfred Laurier Press, 1997) in Canadian Ethnic Studies, Vol. 32, no2, 2000, pp. 119-135

    Roger L. Nichols, Indians in the United States and Canada: A Comparative Perspective (Lincoln: University of Nebraska Press, 1999) in The International History Review, Vol. 22, no. 4, December, 2000, pp. 904-907

    Jack Glenn, Once Upon an Oldman: Special Interest Politics and the Oldman River Dam (Vancouver: UBC Press, 1999) in Canadian Public Policy, Vol. 26, no. 3. 2000, pp. 389-390

    Alan C. Cairns, Citizens Plus: Aboriginal Peoples and the Canadian State(Vancouver: UBC Press, 2000); Tom Flanagan, First Nations? Second Thoughts (Montreal: McGill Queen’s University Press, 2000);Bruce Clark Justice in Paradise (Montreal: McGill-Queen’s University Press, 1999) in The Globe and Mail, 19 August, 2000, p. D4

    Laurie Barron, Walking in Indian Moccasins: The Native Policies of Tommy Douglas and the CCF (Vancouver: UBC Press, 1997) in Canadian Historical Review, Vol. 80, no. 1, March, 1999, pp. 126-129

    “Airbrushed History,” review of J.L. Granatstein, Who Killed Canadian History? (Toronto Harper Collins, 1998) in Canadian Forum, May, 1998, pp. 38-40

    Michael Asch, ed., Aboriginal and Treaty Rights in Canada: Essays on Law, Equality, and Respect for Difference (Vancouver: UBC Press, 1997) in Canadian Public Policy, Vol. 24, no. 1, 1998, pp. 130-131

    Ingebourg Marshall, A History and Ethnography of the Beothuk (Montréal: McGill-Queen’s, 1996) in The Globe and Mail, 12 October, 1996, p. D17

    J.R. Miller, Shingwauk’s Vision (Toronto: University of Toronto Press, 1996) in Catholic New Times, Vol. 20, no. 16, Sept. 22, 1996, p. 6

    Edmund Danziger Jr., The Chippewas of Lake Superior (Norman, University of Oklahoma Press, 1990) in Canadian Historical Review, Vol. 73, no. 2, June, 1992, pp. 257-259

    James B. Waldrum, As Long as the Rivers Run: Hydroelectric Development in Native Communities in Western Canada (Winnipeg: The University of Manitoba Press, 1988) in Musk-Ox, Vol. 38, 1991, pp. 88-89

    "Review Article" on Francis Jennings, Empire of Fortune: Crowns, Colonies and Tribes in the Seven Years War in America (New York: W.W. Norton, 1988) in The American Indian Quarterly, Vol. 15, no. 1, Winter, 1991, pp. 105-108

    D.N. Sprague, Canada and the Metís, 1869-1885 (Waterloo: Wilfred Laurier Press, 1988) review in Canadian Review of Studies in Nationalism, Vol. 17, nos. 1-2, 1990, pp. 304-306

    J. Anthony Long and Menno Boldt, eds., Governments in Conflict?Provinces and Indian Nations in Canada (Toronto: University of Toronto Press, 1988) review in American Indian Quarterly, Vol. 14, no. 2, spring, 1990, pp. 178-181

    Frank Cassidy and Robert L. Bish, Indian Government: Its Meaning in Practice (Lantzville, B.C.: Oolichan Books, 1989) review in Canadian Public Policy, Vol. 16, no. 2, June, 1990, pp. 230-231

    Roy MacGregor, Chief: The Fearless Vision of Billy Diamond (Toronto: Viking, 1989) review in The Globe and Mail, 22 April, 1989

    MacGregor, Chief, review in Canadian Historical Review, Vol. 71, no. 2, June, 1990, pp. 305-307

    Joan Clark, The Victory of Geraldine Gull (Toronto: Macmillan, 1988) review in The Globe and Mail, 28 May, 1988

    As Long as the Sun Shines and Water Flows: A Reader in Canadian Native Studies, Ian A.L. Getty and Antoine S. Lussier, eds. (Vancouver: University of British Columbia Press, 1983) review in The Globe and Mail, 3 March, 1984

    Gerald Killan, David Boyle: From Artisan to Archaeologist (Toronto: University of Toronto Press, 1983) review in Anthropologica, Vol. 36, no. 1, 1984, pp. 78-80


    Presentations to Government and Expert Witness Work in Court

    "Closing an Incomplete Circle of Confederation", brief to the Joint Committee of the Canadian Senate and the House of Commons on the 1987 Constitutional Accord, presented on August 27, 1987. Testimony published in Committee's Minutes of Proceedings, 14:61-14:73, part 3 of brief published in the appendix of issue no. 14. The brief is published in its entirety in The Canadian Journal of Native Studies, Vol. 6, no. 2, 1986, pp. 197-221.

    "Who Will Speak for the Distinct Society of Canada?" brief to the Senate Submissions Group on the Meech Lake Accord, presented on March 18, 1988. Testimony published in Sub- missions Group Proceedings, 5:50-5:60. The brief is published in Humanist in Canada, Vol. 21, no. 2, Summer, 1988, pp. 3-6

    Oral presentation to Select Committee of the Ontario Legislature on the Official Report of Debates of Legislative Assembly of Ontario, no. C-24, 198 April 13, 1988, C-1243-C-1251

    Oral presentation to the Special Committee of the Canadian House of Commons to study the Proposed Companion Resolution to the Meech Lake Accord (Charest Committee), Minutes of Proceedings and Evidence, issue no. 14, Friday, April 27, 1990, pp. 27-39

    Written brief and oral testimony presented to the Special Joint Committee of the Senate and House of Commons on Process for Amending the Constitution of Canada, (Beaudoin-Edwards Committee) Minutes of Proceedings and Evidence, issue no. 10, (Ottawa: 1991) pp. 91-108. The written brief to the Committee appears as an appendix to issue no. 10, pp. 1A-43A.

    Written presentation to the Task Force on Museums and First Peoples, 1991

    Participant in Seminar on the Reform of Federal Institutions. Organized by the Federal Minister of Constitutional Affairs and by the Network on the Constitution. The Seminar proceedings were summarized in a Network publication entitled Taking Stock: The Network Seminars on Canadian Federalism (Ottawa: Network on the Constitution, 1991) pp. 61-78

    Oral presentation on behalf of the Assembly of First Nations to the Joint Committee on the Renewal of Canada (The Dobbie-Beaudoin Committee). 8 January, 1992

    Oral presentation to the Royal Commission on Aboriginal People, Lethbridge, Alberta, June, 1993

    "The Fur Trade and Aboriginal Rights: History, Education and Constitutional Meaning," Prepared for Leroy Little Bear and the Royal Commission on Aboriginal Peoples, 1994

    "Aboriginal-Crown Treaties in the History and Constitution of Canada: Basic Principles, Basic Interpretations," Prepared for Leroy Little Bear and the Royal Commission on Aboriginal Peoples,1994

    Adviser to Research Department of Indian and Northern Affairs Canada, "Research Priorities Over the Next 10-20 Years," March 26 and 27, 1996

    Intervention on Treaty 8 Tribal Association’s Motion before the National Energy Board of Canada. Intervention on behalf of Indigenous Ecology Alliance, 20 March, 1998. (Transcript of testimony in Vol. 50 of Hearings on the Alliance Pipeline Application)

    Expert witness for the defense in the case of Harley Frank vs the Crown, 1998-1999, Court of Queen’s Bench, Lethbridge, Alberta. The case revolved around a jurisdictional dispute involving the Canadian Wheat Board, Jay’s Treaty, and Section 35 of the Constitution Act, 1982. Defendant lost.

    Expert witness for the defense in the case of USA versus Pitawanakwat, Portland Oregon, autumn, 2000. Gave expert testimony at the request of Pitawanakwat’s legal representatives, the Federal Public Defenders Office. Defendant won. The US State Department’s request to extradite Pitawanakwat back to Canada was denied. The defendant was granted the protection of the “political offenses exception” clause in Article 4 of the Extradition Treaty between Canada and the USA. See Kirk Martin, “US Judge Won’t Extradite Canadian Native Activist,” The Globe and Mail, 23 November, 2000, p. 1

    Recognized in February of 2005 by the Superior Court of Ontario, North Bay Ontario, as an expert witness qualified to give expert testimony on “the history and politics of constitutional relations between the Crown and Aboriginal peoples in Canada and beyond.” This constitutional case started with a charge by the RCMP against three individuals for “defrauding the public” for publishing membership cards in an organization known as the League of Indian Nations of North America. Dr. Hall was on the witness stand for 22 full days. The Crown stayed the charges in February of 2006.

    Beginning in September, 2006, Consultant and Advisor to the Canadian Museum of Human Rights, Winnipeg Manitoba


    Publications Edited

    The Phoenix, Summer, 1983

    The Canadian Journal of Native Studies (member of editorial board since 1987)

    The Warriors Tribute, Vol. 1, no. 1, 22 March, 1989


    Academic Conferences Organized

    With Rodney Bobiwash organized Americana Indigenismo: Indigenous Peoples, the FTAA, and the Fourth World, April, 19, 2001, Quebec City. The conference was part of The Peoples’ Summit to coincide with the gathering of the leaders of 34 governments who met to negotiate terms for the proposed Free Trade Area of the Americas


    Journalistic Publications
    Regular Column

    Canadian Forum, 1992-1998

    “The Treaty Circle,” Canadian Forum, Vol. 71, Dec., 1992, p. 25

    "Judging the Judges," Canadian Forum, Vol. 72, Jan/Feb, 1993, pp. 28-29

    "Questioning the Inquiry," Canadian Forum, Vol. 72, Mar., 1993, pp. 27-28

    "Many Nations, Few States," Canadian Forum, Vol. 72, April, 1993, pp. 24-25

    "Queen Kim's Canada," Canadian Forum, Vol. 72, May, 1993, p. 33

    "Faces of Facism," Canadian Forum Vol. 72, June, 1993, pp. 28-29

    "Tory Fences," Canadian Forum, Vol. 72, July/Aug, 1993, pp. 26-27

    "The Silent Vote," Canadian Forum, Vol. 72, Sept., 1993, pp. 30-31

    "Somalia McLuhanisms," Canadian Forum, Vol. 72, Oct., 1993, pp. 26-27

    "NAFTA or NAFTT?," Canadian Forum. Vol. 72, Nov., 1993, pp. 27-28

    “Dead Air,” Canadian Forum, Vol. 72, Dec. 1993, p. 17

    "Knocking the Negotiators," Canadian Forum, Vol. 73, Jan.-Feb., 1994, p. 37

    "Making Trouble," Canadian Forum, Vol. 73, Mar., 1994, p. 33

    "Tory Pretenders," Canadian Forum, Vol. 73, April, 1994, pp. 34-35

    "The Age of Treaties," Canadian Forum, Vol. 73, May, 1994, p. 27

    "Fractured Territory," Canadian Forum, Vol. 73, June, 1994, p. 29

    "Victorian Sovereigntists," Canadian Forum, Vol. 73, July-Aug., 1994, p. 29

    "Mixed Roots," Canadian Forum, Vol. 73, Sept., 1994, p. 27

    "Imperialism and Canada," Canadian Forum, Vol. 73, Oct., 1994, p. 47

    "New Democratic Tories," Canadian Forum, Vol. 73, Nov., 1994, p. 38

    "The Queen's Allies," Canadian Forum, Vol. 73, Dec., 1994, p. 29

    "Alberta's Revolution," Canadian Forum, Vol. 74, Jan./Feb., 1995, p. 29

    "The Abo All-Stars," Canadian Forum, Vol. 74, Mar., 1995, p. 29

    "Big Racist Thing," Canadian Forum, Vol. 74, April, 1995, p. 31

    "Where is Here?," Canadian Forum, Vol. 74, May, 1995, p. 33

    "The Unforgiven," Canadian Forum, Vol. 74, June, 1995, pp. 6-7

    "Lennarson of Lubicon," Canadian Forum, Vol. 74, July/Aug., 1995, pp. 6-7

    "The Godfather's Heirs," Canadian Forum, Vol. 74, Sept., 1995, pp. 5-6

    "Definitely Not Aimless," Canadian Forum, Vol. 74, Oct. 1995, pp. 6-7

    Manufacturing Contempt, Canadian Forum, Vol. 74, Nov., 1995, pp. 6-7

    “Ethnics and Monet,” Canadian Forum, Vol. 74, Dec. 1995, pp. 6-7

    “Privatizing the Constitution,” Canadian Forum, Vol. 74, Jan./Feb. 1996, pp. 6-7

    “Dion the Decentralist,” Canadian Forum, Vol. 74, Mar., 1996, pp. 4-5

    “The Rule of Politics,” Canadian Forum, Vol. 74, April, 1996, pp. 4-6

    “Levant the Lobbyist,” Canadian Forum, Vol. 75, May, 1996, pp. 6-7

    “Between the Jihad and McWorld,” Canadian Forum, Vol. 75, June, 1996, pp. 5-7

    “Equal Injustice,” The Canadian Forum, Vol. 75, July/Aug., 1996, pp. 5-6

    “Christian Love,” Canadian Forum, Vol. 75, Sept., 1996, p. 5

    “Fourth World Fundamentals,” Canadian Forum, Vol. 75, Oct., 1996, pp 4-5

    Peoples in Captivity,” Canadian Forum, Vol. 75, Nov., 1996, pp. 6-7

    “Political Judges,” Canadian Forum, Vol. 75, Dec., 1996, pp. 6-7

    "Royal Omission," Canadian Forum, Vol. 76, Jan./Feb., 1997, pp. 5-6

    “Magazine Meglomania,” Canadian Forum, Vol. 76, March, 1997, pp. 5-6

    "Who Silenced Clayton Matchee?" Canadian Forum, Vol. 76, April, 1997, pp. 5-6

    "Stranger to History," Canadian Forum, Vol. 76, April, 1997, pp. 5-6

    "Anti-Federalist Tyranny," Canadian Forum, Vol. 76, June, 1997, pp. 6-7

    "Playing Both Sides," Canadian Forum, Vol. 76, July-Aug., pp. 5-6

    "Assembling the First Nations," Canadian Forum, Vol. 76, Sept., 1997, pp. 5-6

    "Hogocracy," Canadian Forum, Vol. 76, Oct., 1997, pp.5-6

    "Choosing Your Dictatorship," Canadian Forum, Vol. 76, Nov., 1997, pp. 5-6

    "Mackenzie Valley II, Canadian Forum, Vol. 76, December, 1997, pp. 5-6

    "Make Anti-MAI Hay," Canadian Forum, Vol. 76, Jan./Feb., 1998, p. 5-6

    "Whose Sorry Now?" Canadian Forum, Vol. 76, Mar., 1998, pp. 6-8

    "The Politics of Monarchy," Canadian Forum, Vol. 76, April, 1998, p. 6-8

    Who Is Killing Canadian History?” Canadian Forum, Vol. 76, May, 1998, pp. 5-6

    “Indian Wars North and South,” Canadian Forum, Vol. 76, June, 1998, pp. 6-7

    “Engendering Childcare,” Canadian Forum, Vol. 76, July-August, 1998, pp. 5-6

    "Ethnic Cleansing and Genocide Close to Home," Canadian Forum, June, 1999, p. 31

    “Engendering Childcare,” Canadian Forum, Vol. 76, July-August, 1998



    Newspaper Articles in Commercial, Aboriginal, and Alternative Press (partial list)

    "First Ministers Revealed their Biases in Accord", The Toronto Star,19 June, 1987; "Native Communities are Still Colonies in Confederation", Northern Life, 7 October, 1987; "Native People - A Search for Dignity", The Globe and Mail, 2 August, 1988; "Push on the Verge of Coming to Shove," The Globe and Mail, 20 October, 1988; "Fed Up With 27 February, 1989; "As Long as the Sun Shines and Water Flows," The Globe and Mail, 25 July, 1989; "Flaws in the Law Stack Odds Against Native People," The Globe and Mail, 26 September, 1989; "Warriors Forgotten on Remembrance Day," The Globe and Mail, 10 November, 1989; "Canada's Bitter Legacy of Injustice," The Globe and Mail, 16 March, 1990; "Cutting into the Action," The Globe and Mail, 18 June, 1990; "Warriors, Myths and Legends," The Vancouver Province, 29 July, 1990; "Québécois Ignoring Brothers in Arms,The Calgary Herald, 21 July, 1990; "Attack on Human Rights: Hidden Realities Behind the Oka Crisis," The Winnipeg Free Press, 31 July, 1990; "Politicians, Police, Lonefighters and Mohawks," Kainai News, 20 September, 1990; "Meech Lake Mistake Back Again," The Calgary Herald, 21 November, 1990; "Treating Native Activists Like Common Criminals," The Globe and Mail, 26 March, 1991; "A Thickening Atmosphere of Animosity Between Natives and Quebec," The Ottawa Citizen, 27 September, 1991, p. A.11; "Canada Round Excludes Natives," The Calgary Herald, 5 October, 1991, p. A5; "Treaties Are Living Agreements, The Calgary Herald, 18 Feb., 1991, p. A5; "Getty Undermines Triple-E Senate Bid," Lethbridge Herald, 24 Jan., 1992, p. A4; "Constitutional Reform is Canada's Toughest Test," Calgary Herald, 11 Feb., 1992, p. A5; “Serving Up Slices of the New Senate," The Globe and Mail, 4 August, 1992, p. A11; "Debating an Agreement That's Really No Agreement at All," The Globe and Mail, 28 September, 1992, p. A19; "Native The Ottawa Citizen, 20 October, 1992, p. A11; "Document a Power Grab by the First Ministers,” The Calgary Herald, 25 September, 1992, p. A5; "Vote is Nothing More Than a Political Gimmick," The Calgary Herald, 20 October, 1992, p. A5; "A Taste of the Politics of Exclusion," The Globe and Mail, 14 May, 1993; "Alberta Government Strangles Native Studies," The University of Toronto Varsity, 19 Jan., 1995; "The Philosophical Conflict That Animates Gustafsen Lake, The Globe and Mail, 5 Sept., 1995, p. A21; "Revealing Slip: Parizeau Played Dangerous Game With Toxic Political Symbols," The Ottawa Citizen, 1 Nov., 1995, p. A17; "Klein's Multi-Corp Morass," The Lethbridge Herald, 29 Jan., 1996, p. A4; "AFN's Reckoning with Self-Rule," The Ottawa Citizen, 29 July, 1997, p. A11; "Native Voices Raised," Calgary Herald, 17 April, 1997, p. A19; "Pork Barrel Politics in the Global Economy," Red Deer Advocate, 14 Oct., 1997, p. A4; "Indian Government-In-Waiting Or Just a Lobby Group", Edmonton Journal, 29 July, 1997, p. A7; "Turning a Blind Eye to Aboriginal Unrest," Edmonton Journal, April 17, 1997, p. A15; "First Nations Forgotten At Pipeline Probe," Edmonton Journal, 4 November, 1997, p. A15; "Musquean Land Rights," Edmonton Journal, 3rd February, 1999; "Separating Children from Their Parents," Edmonton Journal, 18 March 1999; "Taber Shooting," Edmonton Journal, 30 May, 1999;"Ghost of Elvis," Edmonton Journal, 18 Aug. 1999; "Don't Bury the Tragedy at Gustafsen," Vancouver Sun, 21 Jan. 2000; “CBC Neglected Its Mandate in Trudeau Coverage,” Windspeaker, December 2000, p.5, “Confronting The Hard Realities of Canada’s Ongoing Indian War, The Radical, Vol. 3, no. 5, January, 2001, pp. 1,2, 17; “Government Violates Crown Laws at Second Battle of the Plains of Abraham,” Discourse and Disclosure, July, 2001, pp. 1-2; “Cynicism Fuels B.C. Vote on Aboriginal Rights,” Winnpeg Free Press, 27 August, 2002; “What’s Left of the Left?,” Winnipeg Free Press, 23 May, 2002; Making Sense of the New Indian Act,” Winnipeg Free Press, 15 August, 2002; Opposition to Monarchy a Liberal Party Tradition,” Lethbridge Herald, 23 October, 2002; “The Crossroads of Globalization,” Winnipeg Free Press, 25 November, 2002; “Effort to Undermine True Conservatives Devious,” Saskatoon Star Phoenix, 13 November, 2003


    Other Articles Combining Journalistic and Academic Approaches

    “The Hauntings of Colonialism,” Canadian Dimension, January/February, 2007

    “Where Is America Going? A Call to Resist the Onslaught of a New American Century,” Canadian Dimension, January/April, 2005, pp. 13

    “Making Sense of the News in 2004,” Canadian Dimension, March/April, 2004, pp. 10-11

    “Imperialism, Conquest, Indigenous Peoples, Aboriginal Title, Treaties, and International Law: The Occupation of BC, Iraq, and the West Bank; The Extradition cases of Sitting Bull, Leonard Peltier, James Pitawanakwat and John Graham”, March 3, 2004

    at
    http://www.grahamdefense.org/news_ahall.htm

    “The Denigration of ‘A Great National Question:’ The Campbell Referendum on Aboriginal Title in British Columbia,” Kairos Solidarite, Vol. 11, no. 1, spring, 2002, pp. 19-20

    “The Iraq Crisis and the Concept of Global Civil War,” Parkland Post, Vol. 7, spring/summer, 2003, pp. 8-9. Also published in The Winnipeg Free Press, 15 August, 2003

    “Making Sense of the New Indian Act,” The Winnipeg Free Press, 15 August, 2002

    "Lighting A Candle or Exploding Bombs in North America and Kosovo," published on many web sites including Turtle Island and LISN, 1999, (75 pages)

    "Hogocracy and Municipal Law in Alberta,” Encompass, Vol. 2, no. 1, Oct., 1997, p. 7

    “Residential Schools: Far from Shingwauk’s Teaching Wigwam,” Catholic New Times, Vol. 20, no. 16, Sept. 22, 1996, p. 6

    “Did Ralph Klein Break the Law,” Canadian Dimension, Vol. 30, No. 3, May-June, 1996, pp. 57-60

    Alex Roslin, A Conversation With Tony Hall, The Nation (Serving the James Bay Cree Nations), Vol. 3, no. 9, April 1, 1996, pp. 16-18

    "Aboriginal Issues and the New Political Map of Canada," Native History Study Group Newsletter, April, 1991, pp. 1-4

    "Putting Aboriginal Issues on the Canadian Political Agenda," Canadian Dimension, Vol. 25, no. 4, June, 1991, pp. 15-18

    "Aboriginal Futures - Awakening Our Imaginations," Canadian Dimension, Vol. 25, no. 5, 1991, pp. 15-17

    "Who Speaks for Canada? The Meech Lake-Free Trade Connection", Humanist in Canada, Vol. 21, no. 2, Summer 1988, pp. 3-6

    "Racism, First Nations and the Constitution," Peace Magazine Vol. 7, no. 2, March, 1991, pp. 23, 29

    "Chernobyl Darlington and the Nuclear Energy Time Bomb", Humanist in Canada, Vol. 19, no. 4, Winter 1986/87, pp. 3-5

    "Whose Birthday Is It Anyway? Bias in the Bicentennial", This Magazine, Vol. 18, no. 5, Dec., 1984, pp. 34-37

    Broadcast Media Work
    Samples of Recent Media Exchanges

    Face to Face with Jack Etkin, #49, Professor Anthony J. Hall on Earth into Property, 12 October, 2010

    http://vimeo.com/15783266

    The Peter B. Collins Show, “The History of Imperialism, with Prof. Tony Hall, 6 November, 2010

    http://peterbcollins.com/2010/11/06/the-history-of-imperialism-with-prof-tony-hall/


    Guest on Canadian Broadcasting shows including Morningside, Commentary, As It Happens ("For the Record"), Wild Rose Forum, Media File, This Country, The Calgary Newshour, Point Blank, The Lead, Face Off, Ideas. On CFCN Lethbridge, Aboriginasl Peoples’ Television Network, Six Nations Radio, Talk Shows on QR770 Radio Calgary, Actualité on Radio Canada, Public Broadcasting Radio Network in USA, Counterspin on Newsworld, Wrote and presented 26 opinion pieces for “Mid-day Express” on CBC Alberta Radio.


    Video Tapes Produced

    First Nations, First Ministers (part 1) 1 hour, 1983
    First Nations, First Ministers (part 2) 1 hour, 1984
    A Long and True Alliance, 20 minutes, 1986

    16mm Films Directed

    Flight Plan, 1970
    Sky Surfers, 1976
    Serpent River Paddlers, 1978
    Seasons of the Mind, 198
    (All these films have been aired by the CBC. As well some have been distributed by the National Film Board, Famous Players Theatres and TV Ontario. They are all available in school and library collections across the country.)
    Internet Productions

    Between 2003 and 2010 Hall has produced several hundred hours of downloadable lectures, video conferences, iPod and itune files, You Tubes, Vimeos etc. available at, for instance,

    www.globalizationstudies.ca
    http://globalizationstudies.ca/?page_id=8
    www.ourowncbc.info/
    http://www.youtube.com/user/Globalization1492
    http://vimeo.com/channels/globalization
    http://sites.google.com/a/earthintoproperty.info/colonization/home/articles-by-the-author-1
    http://people.uleth.ca/~hall/index.htm
    http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=Anthony%20J.%20Hall%20AND%20mediatype%3Amovies


    Academic Associations

    Board of Directors, Canadian Indian/Native Studies
    Association, 1985-1991

    Member, Canadian Historical Association

    Member, Ontario Historical Association

    Member, National Advisory Council of the Network on the Constitution

    Member, Native History Study Group of the Canadian Historical
    Association



    Community Involvement

    Board of Directors
    Canadian Association in Support of Native People
    1982-1986

    Vice-President
    Canadian Alliance in Solidarity With the Native Peoples
    1984-1985

    President
    Canadian Alliance in Solidarity With the Native Peoples
    1985-1986, 1990-1993

    Board of Directors
    Canadian Alliance in Solidarity With the Native Peoples
    1996 -1997

    Founder, and Corresponding Secretary, Indigenous Ecology Alliance.
    1997-

    Member of the Southern Alberta Council on Public Affairs, 1990-2004

    Adviser, Canadian Museum of Human Rights

    Regular presentations to Lethbridge Senior Centre

    Advisory Board, Islamic History Month Canada


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭studiorat


    Michael Shermer is not a career academic who has gone through standard procedures of peer review for tenure and promotion.

    I bet that sticks in your throat something rotten Tony. So this begs the question, if Mr. Shermer is so unqualified as you suggest why turn up at his talk with a video camera?

    Let me elaborate, Shermers been hawking the same talk around for the last few years. Why bother going at all?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭studiorat


    That's impressive! You can tell a lot about people from a single anonymous internet post. Even their age!! What age am I?

    Sorry, BB am I missing something here?


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