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Strumms · 11-09-2020 10:34pm

Australia were 123/5.. they did fantastically well to put on another 171 runs with just 5 wickets in hand. A partnership of 126 was the killer for England.

England bowlers bowl too short with too much regularity. Some deliveries short and down the leg side, got to bowl fuller, straighter.

Gillespy · 11-09-2020 10:51pm

Similar economy for the five England bowlers. All respectable, none brilliant like Hazlewood and Starc. Rashid bowled better than his figures I thought. Moeen Ali isn't giving the control he usually does in the middle overs. The fast bowlers stray a bit every so often, Archer served up a few to Maxwell before he changed plan and bowled him a great slow ball. Maxwell deserves credit for his innings though, man of the match for me. England bowled ok, it was the first 15 overs batting that cost them the game.

Adamcp898 · 13-09-2020 8:37am

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Here's a question....

What happens if the protective bit at the back of the helmet hits the stumps and knocks the bails off? Is it out, hit wicket?

Nearly happened just there with Billings

Yep.

KP was out years ago when his helmet came off while he dodged a ball and it hit his wicket. Bowler gets credited with it too.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XGwpch06PGs

Gillespy · 13-09-2020 10:09am

I don't know why helmet manufactures can't have it tethered. Seen loads of lucky escapes since they came in. Surely batsmen should insist on it or do something about it himself.

Mysterypunter · 13-09-2020 1:05pm

Second ODI just underway, Roy given out second ball and rightly overturned on review, horrible decision, why not just do away with umpires, they are constantly undermined and make so many poor decisions, it didn't even look close in real time.

Strumms · 13-09-2020 1:27pm

Mysterypunter wrote: »

Second ODI just underway, Roy given out second ball and rightly overturned on review, horrible decision, why not just do away with umpires, they are constantly undermined and make so many poor decisions, it didn't even look close in real time.

Yes that was a totally dreadful decision.. the replay showed it was going about 3 or 4 inches over the stumps.. hit him well above the knee roll.

MFPM · 13-09-2020 1:51pm

Good start again by Australia, England 2 down and they seem a bit stuck, slow progress - scoring at just over 3 an over. Surprised Starc is playing today, bowling well.

Strumms · 13-09-2020 1:54pm

Australia have bowled excellently....really got their radar zoomed in on a couple of inches outside off stump and a perfect length every time..fours have just dried up for England... even the very good shots are finding fielders time after time.

Gillespy · 13-09-2020 2:01pm

Root changed his bat and immediately looked like himself. Boundary and singles. I think the blow he took from the inside edge was hampering him too.

Strumms · 13-09-2020 2:10pm

Root 13 off 43... thats seriously conservative even if it was in a test match... think Root looks very heavy footed at the crease...

MFPM · 13-09-2020 2:13pm

Marsh has started with a maiden if England aren't scoring off the non front line bolwers, they'll have a problem. This is like a continuation of the other night, very un England like. Still only 3 per over.

Strumms · 13-09-2020 3:20pm

England have bet the house on the batsmen performing, they are not performing.

They’ve selected a lineup with a tail that looks long even for test match cricket. Plenty of batsmen / bowlers a touch shy of ‘proven’ all rounders... that’s risky.. a very strange selection.

I know Morgan, his team of selectors and most of these players won the World Cup, but you don’t win games on reputation. Morgan gone now, Aussies been gun barrel straight... excellent bowling.

MFPM · 13-09-2020 3:26pm

Zampa gets Morgan again, that's 4:0 in that contest between them. England need to up the rate if they are to get anything like a reasonable score...Maybe Woakes might have on of those innings he has from time to time...

MFPM · 13-09-2020 3:32pm

Michael Vaughan on BBC talking about how difficult it will be for Australia chasing 200+ fair enough but England are currently on 117/5 and struggling - let's see where they finish first.

MFPM · 13-09-2020 4:05pm

England struggling here..144/7 just over 11 overs left. Woakes is their best hope to get to 200 or close to it.

Mysterypunter · 13-09-2020 4:06pm

MFPM wrote: »

England struggling here..144/7 just over 11 overs left. Woakes is their best hope to get to 200 or close to it.

The bowling is way too good if the big guns struggled the tail won't score many. 180 maybe

MFPM · 13-09-2020 4:07pm

According to BBC stats guy, Australia have bowled 7 maidens, most maidens bowled against England since 2009.

MFPM · 13-09-2020 4:19pm

OK, Woakes won't be that saviour...Mysterypunter is right about the lower order! Hazelwood great again, only 1 wicket but just 27 runs of 10 overs, that's impressive.

Mysterypunter · 13-09-2020 4:55pm

MFPM wrote: »

OK, Woakes won't be that saviour...Mysterypunter is right about the lower order! Hazelwood great again, only 1 wicket but just 27 runs of 10 overs, that's impressive.

Mysterypunter is wrong about the lower order 😅 England got 231-9, aussies melted a bit

MFPM · 13-09-2020 4:59pm

Really poor from Australia in the last few overs but great batting from Rashid and Curran, though given how they batted the Aussies can take some heart for their own chances. Isn't it amazing how often we see this in cricket, serious batsmen struggle and then tail enders play like Viv Richards!

Gillespy · 13-09-2020 5:07pm

I don't know what to make of England batting. Key players look out of form, they also seems to have lost that no fear approach they had in the years up to the world cup. All these bowlers have gone the distance many times before playing this team. Pitch might not be a road but it's not that bad.

Anyway, they managed to get some score together to mean the second half might be worth watching.

Gillespy · 13-09-2020 5:45pm

Poor start to the Australian chase. Warner gone. Archer too fast for him.

Strumms · 13-09-2020 6:44pm

Gillespy wrote: »

I don't know what to make of England batting. Key players look out of form, they also seems to have lost that no fear approach they had in the years up to the world cup. All these bowlers have gone the distance many times before playing this team. Pitch might not be a road but it's not that bad.

Anyway, they managed to get some score together to mean the second half might be worth watching.

Good point re: the no fear approach.. halfway through the innings when you would have needed exceleration the English batsmen were finding the fielders constantly. They needed to risk going aerial or lower with added power, push the field back, make scoring off every ball realistic possibility. That worked at the end, but because it only came at the end , English lads have only managed to set a 232 target... with a bowling attack primed for keeping good economy over good pressure and danger.

MFPM · 13-09-2020 6:48pm

Steady enough by the Aussies, 5 per over would do it from here...easier said than done!

MFPM · 13-09-2020 6:49pm

The Aussies have dealt with Rashid much better today.

Strumms · 13-09-2020 7:09pm

MFPM wrote: »

The Aussies have dealt with Rashid much better today.

Much better indeed. They’ve sent him going for a hair under 8 an over.

MFPM · 13-09-2020 8:12pm

Good comeback here by England with Archer and Woakes.

Richard Hillman · 13-09-2020 8:44pm

Is Carey playing for this average or what?

MFPM · 13-09-2020 8:44pm

Appalling batting performance from Australia, excellent comeback by England, they'll win it from here.

Gillespy · 13-09-2020 8:45pm

Carey needs to take responsibility here. Zampa is a blocker, he has no shots. Giving him the strike every time is only heaping pressure on.

MFPM · 13-09-2020 8:53pm

Gillespy wrote: »

Carey needs to take responsibility here. Zampa is a blocker, he has no shots. Giving him the strike every time is only heaping pressure on.

What was Carey at, no effort?

13-09-2020 8:54pm

I haven't seen much of Carey but from tonight's showing, surely Wade is a better option. He's more pro-active with the bat anyway.

Gillespy · 13-09-2020 8:58pm

Adam Gilchrist was pushing for Josh Philippe before the series.

MFPM · 13-09-2020 8:59pm

No boundary for 8 overs...8!!!

Gillespy · 13-09-2020 9:00pm

Hazlewood is capable of doing this job if it was Buttler or Dhoni batting at the other end.

MFPM · 13-09-2020 9:21pm

Well done England, excellent bowling performance winning a game they had no business winning. Langer should read the riot act with some of his batters, Smith has to come back for game three. Set up nicely for the finale!

13-09-2020 9:30pm

MFPM wrote: »

Well done England, excellent bowling performance winning a game they had no business winning. Langer should read the riot act with some of his batters, Smith has to come back for game three. Set up nicely for the finale!

If Smith is recovered, I'd be dropping Warner. He looks hopeless in English conditions. He's continued on from where he left off in the Ashes.

MFPM · 13-09-2020 9:37pm

Ward J. Littell wrote: »

If Smith is recovered, I'd be dropping Warner. He looks hopeless in English conditions. He's continued on from where he left off in the Ashes.

Yep, I agree but I suspect they'll retain him but what more does he have to do to show he can't play in England? Carey got a score tonight but showed no intent on trying to win, played for himself, not the team.

Gillespy · 13-09-2020 9:38pm

Two Curran brothers were excellent. Tom batting with Rashid, match winning 9th wicket partnership. And both bowled well. Tom very economical and Sam taking three wickets.

The pitch came to England. Run making was next to impossible at the end there. Next game will be on a fresh pitch thankfully. I thought I heard them say all three were on the same one. Wouldn't mind a belter and seeing Bairstow and Roy cut loose.

MFPM · 16-09-2020 12:47pm

Series decider today - England win the toss and will bat. Mark Wood in for Sam Curran. Australia somewhat incredibly unchanged, Smith still feeling the effects for the blow to the head in training.

Gillespy · 16-09-2020 12:52pm

That's not good Smith isn't fit to play. Hopefully they're just being extra cautious. Must have been a more serious blow than they originally said. A series decider they would want him to play.

Mysterypunter · 16-09-2020 1:30pm

Lively start, England lost Roy first ball of the match and Root second ball of the match, and are now 36-2 after 6 overs, Bairstow and Morgan batting

Gillespy · 16-09-2020 1:39pm

Bairstow looks to be back in some form. Not struggling, mistiming everything like before. Very good recovery by England so far. Can't be many times Morgan has been batting in the first over. Looking good too.

Mysterypunter · 16-09-2020 1:51pm

Gillespy wrote: »

Bairstow looks to be back in some form. Not struggling, mistiming everything like before. Very good recovery by England so far. Can't be many times Morgan has been batting in the first over. Looking good too.

Was looking good, but played a loose shot, caught by Starc in Zampas first over, 67-3

MFPM · 16-09-2020 2:56pm

Good recovery by England, led by Bairstow...Zampa get's Morgan once more, Roy has struggled in the series but he is coming back from injury.

MFPM · 16-09-2020 3:38pm

Australia losing control of the game after a great start. Billings just hit Starc for two sixes, 300 looking like a real possibility now certainly if this pair stay together.

Mysterypunter · 16-09-2020 3:46pm

Brilliant hundred from Bairstow 101* brought up with a 6. 204-4

MFPM · 16-09-2020 3:51pm

Billings gone for 57, Zampa with another wicket.

MFPM · 16-09-2020 4:10pm

Excellent knock by Bairstow comes to an end, might end up being the crucial innings of the game. Cummings takes the wicket - only his third of the series.

Gillespy · 16-09-2020 4:26pm

Lovely bit of bowling to get Bairstow. England bat so deep they can still get beyond 300 from here.

I don't know what's a good score. Commentators talking about the short boundary and the pitch spinning later but Australia's batting confidence can't be great after their recent collapses.

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