903 new safety camera zones

How many more cameras though?

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

Exactly, if there's no additional camera vans then the odds are actually lessened?

Are these new camera zones bring introduced to facilitate the use of the new camera speed guns that AGS got recently ?

Saw a speed van parked outside St James hospital this morning at 6.45, up the hill from Mount Brown service station on the same side. A line of traffic doing around 40 kmh, assume thats a 50 zone?

With the removal of 500ish previous zones, does this mean that people who acquired points at these areas would be able to appeal, given the gardai have determined these areas are not suitable for a speed safety measure.

Ps. I have zero points currently and hope to keep it that way.

Xwebstar wrote: »

Can they check tax and NCT with the new kit

They already can with ANPR. We just need an insurance database to get the uninsured next.

MaceFace wrote: »

For a moment, to play devils advocate but make two serious points...

The road outside my estate which my house if very very close to is a 50 zone. Cars often do 60+ there. At night you can hear cars do significantly more and I have seen cars do what looks like close to 100.
For cars pulling out of my estate, the visibility is poor due to a high wall with small gap. Kids play football on the estate side of the wall.
This is my neighbourhood and I hate that people put my friends and family in danger by going over the speed limits and risking accidents.


Other point - I see this all the time - on the N7, but could be anywhere. Cars race up doing 120 in 100 zone. Traffic moving along nicely at the marked 100. The faster cars reach traffic, break, and bunch everything together. Cars doing 100 in the inside or middle lane can't get space to move out and overtake cars doing 80-100 due to the traffic congestion, making the situation worse.
If those cars stuck to 100, more people would have a chance of overtaking and relieving the pinch points around junctions and slower moving vehicles.

You rarely see speed checks in estates and IMO they would be better there than on an N road or motorway. People rarely stick to the 50 limits and never the 30 limit. The ironic thing is that a lot of motorists are doing 80km/h on 100 limit roads and give you dirty looks if you overtake them, the same vehicle will be up your arse when you slow down to 50. Prime example is the N4 between the M50 and M4 which has regular speed checks there so most people stick with the limit, turn up the R136 and they ignore the limit.

If people stuck in the left lane unless overtaking it would reduce congestion. I've often driven past lines of cars in the outer lanes while doing the speed limit in the empty inside lane.

Micky 32 wrote: »

How does the new kit work, can they detect you head on say you were doing 81 in a 80 and met a cop car on the road coming toward you?

I believe it's just new handheld speed guns which can take photos and capture reg similar to the GoSafe vans

I see they will be on the M4 going into Dublin, all the way on the M50 to the airport and N4 going up to the M50 roundabout. Nice little cash earner there.

Alun wrote: »

I've been looking at the list of old and new camera zones a bit more closely, paying attention to roads near me, and it all looks a bit odd to me.

They claim, for example for the R755, a road I'm very familiar with and know all their hiding spots by now, that there are 2 "new" zones which have been there for years, and none at all in the existing list. Plus there's a spot where they can almost always be found, just as you enter Roundwood which isn't mentioned at all.

575 zones removed, probably not making enough cash.

Micky 32 wrote: »

575 zones removed, probably not making enough cash.

But isn't that the point ?

Not making cash means they successfully reduced the number of speeders.

TuringBot47 wrote: »

Not making cash means they successfully reduced the number of speeders.

Or that there wasn't a significant number of speeders on that section in the first place and any accidents there had other causes.

Micky 32 wrote: »

I see they will be on the M4 going into Dublin, all the way on the M50 to the airport and N4 going up to the M50 roundabout. Nice little cash earner there.

Pity they are unlikely to also target the bus lane drivers during morning traffic, I counted 15 vehicles this morning between celbridge and Lucan exits (some with indicator on for left, some with hazard lights on and some just driving in bus lane) ... All driving in bus lane while I plodded along in slow moving traffic.

I don't have a problem with gardai enforcing the law (even if it is seen as a cash generator) but don't just pick one offence and concentrate on that, full enforcement and zero tolerance policy when policing a zone, encourage a change in driver behaviour.
Blitz drivers ...catch as many as possible and encourage no excuses, one of my headlights went last night on my commute home, I haven't changed it yet but if I'm caught ... I know it's my fault for not fixing it, I have zero ability when it comes to this sort of thing,so I will try to book the car with the mechanic asap, it is in need of a service soon enough too.

It always surprises me that the gardai don't blitz areas .... IE.have a speed camera set up, and 5mins further down the road have a checkpoint for tax/insurance, NCT etc

earlytobed wrote: »

Gosafe make lots of money, but at a cost to the taxpayer

The consortium was paid €17.27million in 2017, of which €7.5million was recouped for the Exchequer through fines paid by motorists.

Operating at a €10 million loss

It's actually laughable to be honest.....

The state are going mad to privatise everything and in the end it ends up costing way more.

Seth Brundle wrote: »

based on figures that are probably about 15-20 years old now, each fatality on our roads costed €1,000,000.
Surely the loss on paper is actually not a real loss?


How so?
It has freed up garda resources and also helps keep the fatality rate down

Have you seen any Garda freed up from this???

Eh no as traffic corp numbers dropped ... Obviously now called roads policing as of the 1 million etc breathalyser checks done under the old that actually weren't carried out....

Laughable

Xwebstar wrote: »

Where's that costing of €1 million per fatality coming.from?

Fire, ambulance, costs of clean up etc etc and of course money lost such as prsi, paye, vat etc....

Xwebstar wrote: »

That's a Garda tactic to catch motorists speeding near to known speed vans

They do it regularly

No it’s not. It’s a huge ticket generator for the cop. It’s a huge wide safe road that has a ridiculously low speed limit and that’s where he/she sits. What pisses me off is that down the road a bit from there where i live there’s a dangerous narrow road that comes into the built up area that has kids playing and a lot of people walking around and the cars come full belt up it. Peoples pets have been killed also.

The cop is never there because he knows he’ll never get as many tickets like he gets on the other road.