Immigration Control Officer - Dublin Airport

revenent · 19-12-2018 5:21am

The fact that multiple people created accounts, just to try highlight the face that things are a shambles in the airport is amazing. Luckily people are trying to improve things through the union rather then just complaining. Local management doesn't care because they have got away with it since the unit started. It was started as a cost cutting exercise and since it's conception has saved millions, yet this has not been invested in any way on staff or conditions. It's not glass half empty it's reality. All local management want is bums In seats immigrating until you either burn out or get promoted.

New18 · 30-12-2018 11:39pm

Hi, I was wondering if anyone how long it would be after clearing security clearance and referencing it would be before being offered a possible position.

Thanks ðŸ˜

Farlo1234 · 24-03-2019 11:56am

Any idea if they will open up a new recruitment for this or still picking off panel? Got excellent in 2 competencies and very good in the other 2 in interview so just missed out

24-03-2019 2:10pm

Farlo1234 wrote: »

Any idea if they will open up a new recruitment for this or still picking off panel? Got excellent in 2 competencies and very good in the other 2 in interview so just missed out

They are still working off old panel from 2016, only about 50 left to be called. I can see them readvertising it shortly

darrenmcdade · 20-04-2019 2:11pm

Anyone in the military turn to this line of work and if so was your pension compromised by abatement????

cockster1969 · 26-05-2019 9:29am

im currently working in the hse for the last 18 yrs and ive been offered a new job in dublin airport as a immigration control officer..the wages isnt that good there but im wondering does anybody know if i can carry my incriments over from government job to another?

revenent · 26-05-2019 11:19am

cockster1969 wrote: »

im currently working in the hse for the last 18 yrs and ive been offered a new job in dublin airport as a immigration control officer..the wages isnt that good there but im wondering does anybody know if i can carry my incriments over from government job to another?

Is this still off the 2016 panel?

nosey11 · 26-05-2019 2:02pm

cockster1969 wrote: »

im currently working in the hse for the last 18 yrs and ive been offered a new job in dublin airport as a immigration control officer..the wages isnt that good there but im wondering does anybody know if i can carry my incriments over from government job to another?

I'd stay where I was if I were you, they're hemorrhaging staff for a reason. You can carry your money as far as I know, but its up to you.

channelsurfer2 · 26-05-2019 2:11pm

you would be mad to take it. long shifts low morale and management that dont care from what i hear.

revenent · 26-05-2019 6:19pm

channelsurfer2 wrote: »

you would be mad to take it. long shifts low morale and management that dont care from what i hear.

From all the crap posted on this thread you mean. Management can be bad anywhere, morale is non existent but the job is interesting and varied. Something unlike any other job.

ishoodishoo · 09-06-2019 4:41am

I also worked for HSE for many years and asked would I be able to carry increment over and I was told to contact HR upon assignment. The hours are 24/7 so if you want to have a Monday to Friday job and have your weekend to yourself type of person then don't go for it and waste time when someone else could take that position. I've seen it for years with people coming in to train that clearly haven't read the job prospectus and don't want to work nights or weekends, well just don't apply then give someone else a chance that does.

Farlo1234 · 01-08-2019 6:29pm

Any word on new recruitment?

cw67irl · 02-08-2019 9:42pm

Farlo1234 wrote: »

Any word on new recruitment?

Nothing anytime soon

revenent · 04-10-2019 1:06am

https://www.publicjobs.ie/en/index.php?option=com_jobsearch&view=jobdetails&Itemid=263&cid=109007&campaignId=19221703
New campaign is up for anyone interested!

EB_2013 · 04-10-2019 6:45am

Does anyone know if you can carry over your current service in the civil service or would you have to start from point 1?

Stephen Strange · 04-10-2019 7:00am

EB_2013 wrote: »

Does anyone know if you can carry over your current service in the civil service or would you have to start from point 1?

Service carries over if its an equivalent grade.

EB_2013 · 04-10-2019 7:59am

Stephen Strange wrote: »

Service carries over if its an equivalent grade.

Cheers Stephen

paulbolg · 07-10-2019 12:23pm

Anyone know what the story is with current recruitment? I can only assume this is a new panel? Thankyou

Stephen Strange · 07-10-2019 12:52pm

paulbolg wrote: »

Anyone know what the story is with current recruitment? I can only assume this is a new panel? Thankyou

It is

Sup08 · 07-10-2019 2:45pm

paulbolg wrote: »

Anyone know what the story is with current recruitment? I can only assume this is a new panel? Thankyou

The old panel has now been exhausted and no more officers to be selected from the panel.
A new panel will be formed from this competition and should last approximately 2 years. The previous panel went on for a year more than normal civil servant panels.

paulbolg · 07-10-2019 2:51pm

Sup08 wrote: »

The old panel has now been exhausted and no more officers to be selected from the panel.
A new panel will be formed from this competition and should last approximately 2 years. The previous panel went on for a year more than normal civil servant panels.

Thanks folks, are ye currently working there? What way are you fixed staff wise?? Were any of you working in civil service dept of justice and transferred over to the airport?

07-10-2019 6:46pm

They say that they hope to fill positions before Christmas. Not going to happen. After the exam and interview there is a 12 week garda plus airport security clearance to contend with. More realistic timeframe for bodies on the ground is march-april 2020

Shamex · 07-10-2019 8:20pm

Hi all, can anyone give a true figure of take home pay if starting at the bottom? I understand the weekly rate is mentioned + 25% shift pay? Is there anything else that’s not mentioned or anything I’m missing / mis reading ? Thanks

paulbolg · 07-10-2019 9:00pm

Shamex wrote: »

Hi all, can anyone give a true figure of take home pay if starting at the bottom? I understand the weekly rate is mentioned + 25% shift pay? Is there anything else that’s not mentioned or anything I’m missing / mis reading ? Thanks

Pay grades are in the application on publicjobs. If its your 1st time in civil service you start at btm grade and you get an increment every year then, add 25% to your basic. Some people are taxed differently. Take out your tax, your pensions and if your with union, 1st year just under 500 per week roughly again everyone is different

Stephen Strange · 07-10-2019 11:31pm

Shamex wrote: »

Hi all, can anyone give a true figure of take home pay if starting at the bottom? I understand the weekly rate is mentioned + 25% shift pay? Is there anything else that’s not mentioned or anything I’m missing / mis reading ? Thanks

Add 25% + Bank Holiday pay (28% of weekly salary for shift worked or 20% for rest day on bank holiday).

Gmcrnm · 08-10-2019 7:38am

Anybody know is there a Sunday allowance or is that covered by the 25%. Same question to night allowance.

Sup08 · 10-10-2019 8:10am

Gmcrnm wrote: »

Anybody know is there a Sunday allowance or is that covered by the 25%. Same question to night allowance.

All contained in the information booklet.

https://www.publicjobs.ie/en/index.php?option=com_jobsearch&view=jobdetails&Itemid=263&cid=109007&campaignId=19221703

joe199 · 11-10-2019 6:48pm

Is anyone else having trouble downloading the first pdf of the application the offline one? Thanks

joe199 · 12-10-2019 7:27pm

Got there in the end cheers

Sexual Chocolate · 12-10-2019 7:35pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

They say that they hope to fill positions before Christmas. Not going to happen. After the exam and interview there is a 12 week garda plus airport security clearance to contend with. More realistic timeframe for bodies on the ground is march-april 2020

Do you still have to go through that procedure even if you already work in the airport and have a valid ID card ?

12-10-2019 7:38pm

Sexual Chocolate wrote: »

Do you still have to go through that procedure even if you already work in the airport and have a valid ID card ?

Yes. Lads already working for Menzies and ocs started with us, they had to go through the same process.

baingal nancer · 14-10-2019 10:03am

joe199 wrote: »

Is anyone else having trouble downloading the first pdf of the application the offline one? Thanks

Yeah wont download for me either

Farlo1234 · 18-10-2019 12:41pm

What sort of numbers they looking to initially fill?

Heart Break Kid · 18-10-2019 12:43pm

Lia Shaggy Knickers wrote: »

Looks an interesting role but the money is really poor for entry level and the shift work. Even 25% allowance brings it to just over 500 a week.

Positive bit though is if you stick with it for a number of years and then move to a different department, I've heard you keep the 25% allowance.

wangchung · 18-10-2019 3:19pm

not sure but maybe about 100 but its only to fill the posts of those who left and would say there are a few that will be leaving over the next while. they close the door after the horse has bolted

EB_2013 · 18-10-2019 4:01pm

wangchung wrote: »

not sure but maybe about 100 but its only to fill the posts of those who left and would say there are a few that will be leaving over the next while. they close the door after the horse has bolted

Are things that bad there that they can't hold onto staff?

Sup08 · 18-10-2019 11:33pm

EB_2013 wrote: »

Are things that bad there that they can't hold onto staff?

I believe that the training they receive and calibre of staff that enter the airport within this role, gain such experience, they are promoted quicker than general CO grades and therefore show more attributes to the role of higher grades than a regular clerical officer.

The Veteran · 19-10-2019 2:47pm

Sup08 wrote: »

I believe that the training they receive and calibre of staff that enter the airport within this role, gain such experience, they are promoted quicker than general CO grades and therefore show more attributes to the role of higher grades than a regular clerical officer.

The vast majority that leave do so on promotion. Far quicker than elsewhere. For an airport CO going for EO, its easy - they have better examples than most HEOs!

revenent · 19-10-2019 4:18pm

The Veteran wrote: »

The vast majority that leave do so on promotion. Far quicker than elsewhere. For an airport CO going for EO, its easy - they have better examples than most HEOs!

Welcome back to the thread. I'm sure you will be bombarded again!

The Veteran · 19-10-2019 6:59pm

revenent wrote: »

Welcome back to the thread. I'm sure you will be bombarded again!

Indeed, I've never fully gone away! You could say like a bad smell or something like that

ladz · 23-10-2019 11:08am

joe199 wrote: »

Got there in the end cheers

Hi, can you please tell how you got the pdf to download? ive tried several readers & 2 machines & no joy

thanks.

ladz · 23-10-2019 11:10am

Anyone travel any kind of a distance & do this job? like over an hour? thinking the shift pattern without too many consecutive days would make it doable.

EB_2013 · 23-10-2019 11:28am

ladz wrote: »

Hi, can you please tell how you got the pdf to download? ive tried several readers & 2 machines & no joy thanks.

You have to open it with Adobe once its downloaded.

louis59 · 23-10-2019 8:14pm

Hi guys
I have applied online, does anyone know if you automatically do the online assessment?
Or is it only if they are happy with your application, and you are suitable for the job.
Thanks in advance

italodisco · 24-10-2019 12:37am

The Veteran wrote: »

The vast majority that leave do so on promotion. Far quicker than elsewhere. For an airport CO going for EO, its easy - they have better examples

Very little hope of an immigration kiosk occupier getting an eo In any other department than Justice, no offence but the experience gained there is extremely 1 dimensional , an extremely mundane role.

googleted · 24-10-2019 9:20am

italodisco wrote: »

The Veteran wrote: »

The vast majority that leave do so on promotion. Far quicker than elsewhere. For an airport CO going for EO, its easy - they have better examples

Very little hope of an immigration kiosk occupier getting an eo In any other department than Justice, no offence but the experience gained there is extremely 1 dimensional , an extremely mundane role.

Categorically not true, as evidenced by the dozens of CO staff who have been promoted (at open, interdepartmental and internal comps) largely based on the breadth of their experience at the airport. That promoted airport staff tend to stay within Justice points more towards Justice HR being keen to hold onto talent and experience than anything else.

Stephen Strange · 24-10-2019 7:15pm

italodisco wrote: »

The Veteran wrote: »

The vast majority that leave do so on promotion. Far quicker than elsewhere. For an airport CO going for EO, its easy - they have better examples

Very little hope of an immigration kiosk occupier getting an eo In any other department than Justice, no offence but the experience gained there is extremely 1 dimensional , an extremely mundane role.

Literally none of them have been promoted on internal justice competitions, all on external and inter-d comps.

A number or CO's are now HEOs and APs within 5 years

The Veteran · 24-10-2019 11:23pm

Stephen Strange wrote: »

italodisco wrote: »

Literally none of them have been promoted on internal justice competitions, all on external and inter-d comps.

A number or CO's are now HEOs and APs within 5 years

I dont know how one of my last posts seems to read now if quoted as if what was posted by Italxxx was posted by me.

The facts as others have said are there to be seen. Huge numbers of promotions and all on open\inter-d panels. ICOs after any period of time of significance at the airport have very good examples\experience. A significant number of the 2015 intake as ICOs are now HEOs - if that's one dimensional them maybe other COs need to lose some dimensions!

Whether the record.of the last few years on promotion is maintained, time will tell but as a starting position in the civil service that is generating promotion ready staff, the airport is well ahead of the norm.

wangchung · 25-10-2019 10:25am

The Veteran wrote: »

Stephen Strange wrote: »

I dont know how one of my last posts seems to read now if quoted as if what was posted by Italxxx was posted by me.

The facts as others have said are there to be seen. Huge numbers of promotions and all on open\inter-d panels. ICOs after any period of time of significance at the airport have very good examples\experience. A significant number of the 2015 intake as ICOs are now HEOs - if that's one dimensional them maybe other COs need to lose some dimensions!

Whether the record.of the last few years on promotion is maintained, time will tell but as a starting position in the civil service that is generating promotion ready staff, the airport is well ahead of the norm.

wangchung · 25-10-2019 10:31am

wangchung wrote: »

The Veteran wrote: »

Management do not want ICOs to remain out at the airport for too long and would prefer to see them move on after a few years when they can. They do not want people to make careers out of this job and would rather have regular turnaround of staff. That's why they don't offer good conditions out at the airport

Immigration Control Officer - Dublin Airport

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