S2S Cycleway - northside

mrcheez · 15-09-2019 11:38am

site_owner wrote: »

I'm not thrilled about the change to the bike lane either but that's a terrible attitude.

My point is that the changes to the bike lane will make absolutely no difference to the existing state.

People will certainly continue to use it as they always have.

Duckjob · 15-09-2019 11:40am

site_owner wrote: »

I'm not thrilled about the change to the bike lane either but that's a terrible attitude.

Agreed.

Most folks on here (me included) would expect drivers to put our safety as first priority regardless of the rights and wrongs of a given situation. People on bikes need to pay the same respect and courtesy onward to people on foot.

site_owner · 15-09-2019 1:23pm

mrcheez wrote: »

My point is that the changes to the bike lane will make absolutely no difference to the existing state.

People will certainly continue to use it as they always have.

Then maybe that's the point.

It's not a segregated bike lane but some people think it can be treated as such, and that a little line of paint absolves them of responsibility to other park users

mrcheez · 17-09-2019 10:38am

Morning commute through the park past 2 days had the same number of cyclists / pedestrians. No change, nor will this change.

Those that walk their dogs on the cycle-side will continue to do so as they always have.

learn · 17-09-2019 5:44pm

Duckjob wrote: »

Agreed.

Most folks on here (me included) would expect drivers to put our safety as first priority regardless of the rights and wrongs of a given situation. People on bikes need to pay the same respect and courtesy onward to people on foot.

No problem in Holland.

"Legal requirements for your bicycle
Is a bicycle bell compulsory?
Yes, a bicycle bell is compulsory on every bike. Other traffic users have to be able to hear it at a distance of 25 metres. You’re not likely to be fined if your bicycle bell does not meet the requirements, but a good bell does make it easier to pass other traffic on narrow and busy roads."

magicbastarder · 12-10-2019 5:44pm

so the baldoyle-portmarnock footpath/cycle way is open?

https://twitter.com/ireland_active/status/1183039555500433410

Colonel Claptrap · 12-10-2019 6:43pm

Pretty sure that's the path at the top of Paddy's hill. Not the cycleway.

RobertFoster · 12-10-2019 7:03pm

Looks like this former dirt track.

RobertFoster · 05-11-2019 1:20pm

Nice bit of rain recently...

cdaly_ · 05-11-2019 3:45pm

Is that the approach to the Portmarnock roundabout?

RobertFoster · 05-11-2019 4:22pm

cdaly_ wrote: »

Is that the approach to the Portmarnock roundabout?

Yes it's the northern end facing away from the roundabout.

Not my photos btw, taken from Facebook.

brocbrocach · 05-11-2019 5:49pm

http://www.stickybottle.com/latest-news/dublin-greenway-flooded-under-construction/

Tenzor07 · 06-11-2019 12:07pm

Any way to report the poor condition of the cycle path at Fairview park?

It's covered in fallen leaves and with all the rain they are sticking to the path and turning into slippy mush, very dangerous if you go for your brakes or turn in too quick...

comanche_cor · 06-11-2019 2:47pm

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Any way to report the poor condition of the cycle path at Fairview park?

It's covered in fallen leaves and with all the rain they are sticking to the path and turning into slippy mush, very dangerous if you go for your brakes or turn in too quick...

Yeah its brutal, I had the back wheel slip out on me there this morning, just a little scary!!

I guess contact dublin city council?

site_owner · 06-11-2019 3:47pm

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Any way to report the poor condition of the cycle path at Fairview park?

It's covered in fallen leaves and with all the rain they are sticking to the path and turning into slippy mush, very dangerous if you go for your brakes or turn in too quick...

the council say they are doing leaves as a priority

magicbastarder · 27-11-2019 9:05pm

RobertFoster wrote: »

Nice bit of rain recently...

passed by today - looked like they might have had a pump running, but possibly was just a generator. i joined the road from moyne road, so would have been just north of that.

jon1981 · 27-11-2019 11:38pm

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Any way to report the poor condition of the cycle path at Fairview park?

It's covered in fallen leaves and with all the rain they are sticking to the path and turning into slippy mush, very dangerous if you go for your brakes or turn in too quick...

Had accident on that stretch due to leaves. Once bitten twice shy. I now go through the park as they seem to pay more attention to clearing that than the cycle lane or along the road if it's quiet.

magicbastarder · 01-12-2019 11:58pm

Coastal greenway delayed as contractor hits drains and causes flooding

https://www.thejournal.ie/greenway-delayed-flooding-4911281-Dec2019/

Oberkon · 02-12-2019 12:58am

magicbastarder wrote: »

Coastal greenway delayed as contractor hits drains and causes flooding

https://www.thejournal.ie/greenway-delayed-flooding-4911281-Dec2019/

Passed it today it looks nearly ready too

Tenzor07 · 02-12-2019 11:28am

magicbastarder wrote: »

Coastal greenway delayed as contractor hits drains and causes flooding

What's concerning about this issue is that the council commissioned a construction company to build this path in a flood plain area without drainage being fully considered...
Now they can't start work again until April?

mathie · 17-12-2019 11:14am

Is it still possible to walk along where the track is going to be or is it an inactive construction site?

cdaly_ · 17-12-2019 11:53am

It's fenced off as a construction site.

Mercian Pro · 17-12-2019 9:26pm

Cycled the once flooded section a few weeks ago as the barrier was open at the Portmarnock end. It's great but, after meeting a few guys working, I decided it's not really fair on them if they get a rollicking from the Health & Safety supervisor. Skipped the longer southern section though it looked very inviting.

NeedMoreGears · 19-12-2019 2:42pm

The contractor was working this morning on the Baldoyle-Portmarnock cycleway at the Moyne road crossing. Are they working around the restricted areas or maybe the restrictions are not in place yet???

cdaly_ · 19-12-2019 3:17pm

I'm presuming the restrictions apply to the green areas but not to road junctions.

Nice to see the pretty severe ramp on the road at the Portmarnock end. That should make rejoining the road somewhat easier.

site_owner · 28-12-2019 8:27pm

The track lights are going in, the crossings are being prepared for the traffic lights to go in.

Its expected that the track will be ready to go very soon and the flood works will happen later in the year

Carawaystick · 29-12-2019 2:31am

site_owner wrote: »

The track lights are going in, the crossings are being prepared for the traffic lights to go in.

Its expected that the track will be ready to go very soon and the flood works will happen later in the year

How much later in the year?

site_owner · 29-12-2019 3:25pm

Carawaystick wrote: »

How much later in the year?

As far as I know they can't start digging out the drains until April due to wildlife

marvin42 · 02-01-2020 1:41pm

i did cycle parts of it during the holidays, and love it. Cant wait to see it open for all public!

brocbrocach · 21-01-2020 12:53pm

Sometimes I think I'm past being amazed ...
At the entrance to fairview park 'care and share' path some genius has decided to plonk a great big planting box. So you swing through the antique gate (if they bothered to open it that morning) negotiating the usual layer of slick leaves that they leave there and within five or six feet there's a huge wooden box taking up about half the shared path which you have to swing around again. If this morning was frosty I think I'd definitely have come off.
I wonder is it deliberate in order to slow down cyclists?

mrcheez · 21-01-2020 12:54pm

brocbrocach wrote: »

I wonder is it deliberate in order to slow down cyclists?

yup

I also love the dirty looks you get when cycling on the LHS from people running on the RHS ... sure don't you know the "shared space" rule only counts for pedestrians

Oberkon · 21-01-2020 3:01pm

marvin42 wrote: »

i did cycle parts of it during the holidays, and love it. Cant wait to see it open for all public!

There were quite a few using it over the weekend , mainly walkers but cyclists too

mr spuckler · 21-01-2020 3:04pm

Oberkon wrote: »

There were quite a few using it over the weekend , mainly walkers but cyclists too

I tried to get on it last Friday from Portmarnock end but was no easy way through so had to run the gauntlet on the main road instead

Oberkon · 21-01-2020 3:08pm

mr spuckler wrote: »

I tried to get on it last Friday from Portmarnock end but was no easy way through so had to run the gauntlet on the main road instead

I must try it -I pass it a lot
The only thing that that went through my mind as I was on the road cycling past , was there’s bound to be a few muppets in cars who will spot lads on bikes on it and give you the ‘ Use the cycle lane ‘ abuse you sometimes get !

Effects · 22-01-2020 11:52am

brocbrocach wrote: »

At the entrance to fairview park 'care and share' path some genius has decided to plonk a great big planting box. So you swing through the antique gate (if they bothered to open it that morning) negotiating the usual layer of slick leaves that they leave there and within five or six feet there's a huge wooden box taking up about half the shared path which you have to swing around again.
I wonder is it deliberate in order to slow down cyclists?

I spoke with council workers about it. Yes, it's a deliberate measure to slow cyclists down. They'll also be adding more of them along the path.

They said if you slip on the leaves, while turning to go around the planter, then you're going too fast and it's your own fault.

They said they have also started opening that gate earlier in the morning, and the reason it wasn't opened previously was because cyclists were going too fast during rush hour.

brocbrocach · 22-01-2020 12:09pm

Effects wrote: »

I spoke with council workers about it. Yes, it's a deliberate measure to slow cyclists down. They'll also be adding more of them along the path.

They said if you slip on the leaves, while turning to go around the planter, then you're going too fast and it's your own fault.

They said they have also started opening that gate earlier in the morning, and the reason it wasn't opened previously was because cyclists were going too fast during rush hour.

I'm glad they're using the wet leaves as a traffic calming measure.
I don't know what the big fear of speeding cyclists is about, the only issues I've seen have been when dogs are off the leash and running across the path.

mrcheez · 22-01-2020 12:09pm

Effects wrote: »

I spoke with council workers about it. Yes, it's a deliberate measure to slow cyclists down. They'll also be adding more of them along the path.

I found it actually isn't such a problem if you swing around the right side of it and was able to keep similar momentum as before. Obviously if there are people approaching I would slow to a crawl, but if the route is clear, then just take a wide turn and it's as if nothing has changed.

mr spuckler · 22-01-2020 12:54pm

Effects wrote: »

I spoke with council workers about it. Yes, it's a deliberate measure to slow cyclists down. They'll also be adding more of them along the path.

I can't wait for them to add planters to the traffic lanes to slow down the speeding motorists.

brocbrocach wrote: »

I don't know what the big fear of speeding cyclists is about

AFAIK it was one vulnerable pedestrian (elderly or disabled) who complained about nearly being hit by a cyclist going too fast / cutting across their path as they entered the path. A dick move by that one cyclist without doubt but iirc one complaint resulted in the gates being closed at rush hour.

Leroy42 · 22-01-2020 1:34pm

Effects wrote: »

I spoke with council workers about it. Yes, it's a deliberate measure to slow cyclists down. They'll also be adding more of them along the path.

They said if you slip on the leaves, while turning to go around the planter, then you're going too fast and it's your own fault.

They said they have also started opening that gate earlier in the morning, and the reason it wasn't opened previously was because cyclists were going too fast during rush hour.

Wait until the first court case about that and they will change their tune.

RobertFoster · 22-01-2020 3:09pm

Leroy42 wrote: »

Wait until the first court case about that and they will change their tune.

Then the gates will be permanently closed to cyclists.

Leroy42 · 22-01-2020 3:15pm

RobertFoster wrote: »

Then the gates will be permanently closed to cyclists.

But not all entrances. So then what? If it isn't illegal to cycle in the park, which it isn't, then DCC have a duty of care to ensure it is safe. Cleaning up leaves would fall under that remit.

AndrewJRenko · 25-01-2020 1:15pm

mr spuckler wrote: »

AFAIK it was one vulnerable pedestrian (elderly or disabled) who complained about nearly being hit by a cyclist going too fast / cutting across their path as they entered the path. A dick move by that one cyclist without doubt but iirc one complaint resulted in the gates being closed at rush hour.

Wow, I can't wait to see what action they'll take when I complain about how drivers kill more than 40 pedestrians each year.

Shedite27 · 25-01-2020 3:01pm

Has there been any progress on the redesign of that park? There was a plan to realign the cycle path and add a coffeee shop by the playground a few months back

mrcheez · 27-01-2020 3:52pm

If anyone who cycles this route gets someone on the door looking for votes, I'd suggest asking them to cut down the trees opposite the bus depot as it's a major accident waiting to happen (particularly at the corner).

There's a mirror there, but I doubt it gets much use

https://www.google.com/maps/@53.3585517,-6.1904467,3a,75y,143.73h,92.48t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfAtRewdj3AZugLc9ArIsSw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Thelonious Monk · 27-01-2020 3:56pm

are they still going ahead with the plans to put cycle lanes through Fairview? Such a wide road and they can't put a segregated cycle lane coming out of town. It's an absolute disaster every evening for cyclists, I'm surprised people aren't killed there regularly.

NeedMoreGears · 27-01-2020 6:18pm

mrcheez wrote: »

If anyone who cycles this route gets someone on the door looking for votes, I'd suggest asking them to cut down the trees opposite the bus depot as it's a major accident waiting to happen (particularly at the corner).

There's a mirror there, but I doubt it gets much use

https://www.google.com/maps/@53.3585517,-6.1904467,3a,75y,143.73h,92.48t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfAtRewdj3AZugLc9ArIsSw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

I was hit by a car crossing the track about five years ago, but it was at the other entrance about 25m to the left of the one in the image. A few bruises only so not really a major one. I do agree - the trees should be removed.

NeedMoreGears · 11-02-2020 5:25pm

Came across the aftermath of a spill down towards the Sutton end last night. The person on the ground was being looked after by several cyclists, who seemed to have everything under control. 'hope everyone was ok

NeedMoreGears · 11-02-2020 5:25pm

Came across the aftermath of a spill down towards the Sutton end last night. The person on the ground was being looked after by several cyclists, who seemed to have everything under control. 'hope everyone was ok

Effects · 02-03-2020 10:25am

So the Baths has put in a new planning application to increase their parking spaces. Not plans online yet, just the text.
Given how they twist the planning approved for them, I'd imagine the 40 bike parking spaces will just end up being extra car parking spaces.

The proposed development will consist of the reconfiguration and upgrading of the existing surface car park to provide for 33 no. car parking spaces (including 2 no. disability spaces), a loading space and 40 no. bicycle parking spaces. The reconfigured car park and access road will be a one way vehicular system, with the vehicular entrance at the existing eastern access to the site from Clontarf Road and the vehicular exit at the existing western access from Clontarf Road. The existing cycleway located along the north of the site will also reconfigured, upgraded and improved in terms of safety across the extent of the site. Permission is also sought for a new internally illuminated, green standing sign (c.4.5m x c.1.9m) located on the northern boundary to Clontarf Road; landscaping and new street lighting to serve the car parking area.

AndrewJRenko · 03-03-2020 3:12pm

Effects wrote: »

So the Baths has put in a new planning application to increase their parking spaces. Not plans online yet, just the text.
Given how they twist the planning approved for them, I'd imagine the 40 bike parking spaces will just end up being extra car parking spaces.

And the 33 parking spaces will end up being 50 or 60.

S2S Cycleway - northside

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