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S2S Cycleway - northside

mrcheez

According to http://www.clontarf.ie/news/s2s-cycleway-information-meeting works must begin before the summer as otherwise it'll be shelved for another year.

So by my reckoning we should start to see some builders in the area in the next month or so.

Anyone got an update on whether this is starting this year?

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Tenzor07

Any way to report the poor condition of the cycle path at Fairview park?

It's covered in fallen leaves and with all the rain they are sticking to the path and turning into slippy mush, very dangerous if you go for your brakes or turn in too quick...

brocbrocach

http://www.stickybottle.com/latest-news/dublin-greenway-flooded-under-construction/

RobertFoster

cdaly_ wrote: »

Is that the approach to the Portmarnock roundabout?

Yes it's the northern end facing away from the roundabout.

Not my photos btw, taken from Facebook.

cdaly_

Is that the approach to the Portmarnock roundabout?

RobertFoster

Nice bit of rain recently...

RobertFoster

Looks like this former dirt track.

Colonel Claptrap

Pretty sure that's the path at the top of Paddy's hill. Not the cycleway.

magicbastarder

so the baldoyle-portmarnock footpath/cycle way is open?

https://twitter.com/ireland_active/status/1183039555500433410

learn

Duckjob wrote: »

Agreed.

Most folks on here (me included) would expect drivers to put our safety as first priority regardless of the rights and wrongs of a given situation. People on bikes need to pay the same respect and courtesy onward to people on foot.

No problem in Holland.

"Legal requirements for your bicycle
Is a bicycle bell compulsory?
Yes, a bicycle bell is compulsory on every bike. Other traffic users have to be able to hear it at a distance of 25 metres. You’re not likely to be fined if your bicycle bell does not meet the requirements, but a good bell does make it easier to pass other traffic on narrow and busy roads."

mrcheez

Morning commute through the park past 2 days had the same number of cyclists / pedestrians. No change, nor will this change.

Those that walk their dogs on the cycle-side will continue to do so as they always have.

site_owner

mrcheez wrote: »

My point is that the changes to the bike lane will make absolutely no difference to the existing state.

People will certainly continue to use it as they always have.

Then maybe that's the point.

It's not a segregated bike lane but some people think it can be treated as such, and that a little line of paint absolves them of responsibility to other park users

Duckjob

site_owner wrote: »

I'm not thrilled about the change to the bike lane either but that's a terrible attitude.

Agreed.

Most folks on here (me included) would expect drivers to put our safety as first priority regardless of the rights and wrongs of a given situation. People on bikes need to pay the same respect and courtesy onward to people on foot.

mrcheez

site_owner wrote: »

I'm not thrilled about the change to the bike lane either but that's a terrible attitude.

My point is that the changes to the bike lane will make absolutely no difference to the existing state.

People will certainly continue to use it as they always have.

site_owner

I'm not thrilled about the change to the bike lane either but that's a terrible attitude.

mrcheez

Shedite27 wrote: »

You a taxi driver?

Just a realist buddy.

People using the path will be aware of bikes on the path. If they walk blindly into the path of a bike then they are taking their lives into their own hands.

Shedite27

mrcheez wrote: »

Up to them. Get in the way get hit, pretty simples.

You a taxi driver?

Effects

Not that simple in practice though.

mrcheez

Up to them. Get in the way get hit, pretty simples.

Effects

Except pedestrians used to shout at cyclists while both were in the cycle lane. Pedestrians will think they have even more right to walk where they want now.

mrcheez

So, no change from the way it's always been then

Effects

I was passing through fairview park last week and there was a sign up about removing the cycle path through the park.
Saw the guys doing the work on it on Friday and asked them. I had presumed they were forcing people to use the bike path on the outside of the park.
They said the path through the park will now be shared between cyclist and pedestrians, so that if a child gets hit by a cyclist it's the cyclists fault and the council can't be blamed.

plodder

I'd imagine there will be a pedestrian/bike crossing of the road there to join up with the next section going through the duck park.

Shedite27

From the look of ariel views going through Portmarnock, coming southbound, there's a path on the beach running behind the hotel. Then once you get to the hotel, there's enough room on the main street to make a cycle path (I assume those green areas outside the houses are public property). That gets you as far as the school where it gets too narrow for about 500m. Then you have the nature reserve on the left so plenty of space again.

So you need:
1. A route from the beach to the road (is that hotel land, part of the golf course?)
2. A compromise route through the narrow section.
3. The ducks to give over a few meters.

lambayire

There seems to be a small stretch at the end near the roundabout, say about 50 - 100 metres.

Seems to me like a recipe for a disaster there.

Ferris

Mercian Pro wrote: »

I'd be a bit more worried about how it ends near Portmarnock and how it will link into the next section to Malahide.

I have the same concern. It’s either the poxy backroads with the hidden bends towards the Malahide road or up through Portmarnock village and along the coast which is marginally better. No problem for myself but I’d love to be able to get to Malahide castle with the kids in the trailer. It’s just too risky but.

There was a proposal for a cycleway to swords that was voted down as the FF/FG/Lab councilors wouldn’t back as it required CPO’s. Hopefully with the greener outlook it’ll be proposed again and passed.

brocbrocach

Mercian Pro wrote: »

My reading of it is a guy standing beside his bike admiring the view!

I'd be a bit more worried about how it ends near Portmarnock and how it will link into the next section to Malahide.

Perhaps spending a penny? Something about his attitude...

Mercian Pro

My reading of it is a guy standing beside his bike admiring the view!

I'd be a bit more worried about how it ends near Portmarnock and how it will link into the next section to Malahide.

mrcheez

Duckjob wrote: »

I wouldn't take that from it TBF. I just read it as promoting the idea of "biking for all".

People wont be able to fly where there's a lot of other people and kids on it - that's just how it is (and should be IMO)

My comment was just being sarcastic.

I'm pretty sure it doesn't mean anything and they were the only 3D models available to the artist at the time.

Duckjob

brocbrocach wrote: »

I could be wrong but it looks like a daddy and toddler on a trike. Marking their territory already. Lycra wearing Mamils breaking speed records and riding the Tour de Frans aren't welcome here.

I wouldn't take that from it TBF. I just read it as promoting the idea of "biking for all".

People wont be able to fly where there's a lot of other people and kids on it - that's just how it is (and should be IMO)

brocbrocach

Duckjob wrote: »

Up the realism a bit. I'm surprised they didn't stick a white van and a taxi with their hazards on in there too

I could be wrong but it looks like a daddy and toddler on a trike. Marking their territory already. Lycra wearing Mamils breaking speed records and riding the Tour de Frans aren't welcome here.