Who'd live in a house like this? Part 2

Kitty6277 · 11-10-2018 2:57pm

Graces7 wrote: »

Ran this past family in Canada who just laughed and that this happens all the time over there..

I mentioned Tiny Homes?

See

http://www.tinyhomes.ie/

https://selfbuild.ie/advice/tiny-homes/

Tiny homes are one thing, but throwing a roof over the side entrance of your house and calling it a home is a completely different thing.

ShaneC93 · 11-10-2018 3:15pm

Graces7 wrote: »

Ran this past family in Canada who just laughed and that this happens all the time over there..

I mentioned Tiny Homes?

See

http://www.tinyhomes.ie/

https://selfbuild.ie/advice/tiny-homes/

I don't actually think 'tiny homes' as a concept is that bad - as long as they aren't a literal shed and meet all the housing / rental requirements, it really just means a prefab / modular house that is on the smaller side. The tiny homes 'movement' is meant to show that you don't need a 1/2 bed expensive house to live happily.

In quite a few large European cities, most of the population rents long-term rather than ever saving for their own house, in Ireland the opposite is true but one way we could go in future is that the younger generations save for / buy smaller houses and then live there while saving to afford a house to raise a family in. The mortgage on a 40-45sq.m 'tiny house' would be a fraction of what you'd pay to rent a place in Dublin right now.

This is a 45sq.m (min size for a 1-bed in Ireland) 'tiny house' by a Canadian company that I wouldn't mind living in. Nice interior styling and at <€90K would actually be affordable to people in their early 20s.

Ireland just has problems with studios getting a bad name because every studio here seems to be created when a landlord has a spare room with just enough space to squeze a bed and kitchen in with the bed facing the microwave which is stacked on top of the TV which are blocking the oven.. That shouldn't be the case, in other cities, studios are a very practical while cheaper way to live, perfect for the younger generations & students who don't have any children.

Kamili · 11-10-2018 3:19pm

ShaneC93 wrote: »

I wonder how long it will be until the landlord decides to stick it up on Daft instead.

If it does go up on daft it would have to meet regs whereby the BER is listed in the advert. That place won't get a BER rating, so its clearly illegal and would quite quickly be removed.

Shenshen · 11-10-2018 3:20pm

Graces7 wrote: »

Ran this past family in Canada who just laughed and that this happens all the time over there..

I mentioned Tiny Homes?

See

http://www.tinyhomes.ie/

https://selfbuild.ie/advice/tiny-homes/

From your link :

Typically around 16 to 40 square metres in floor area these mini houses are insulated to near zero energy standards; are complete homes; are quick to build in sustainable materials; have LED lighting; cost virtually nothing to heat; and are double-glazed. They’re also cheap to build, at about £1,100 / €1,250 per square metre plus VAT; are frequently off-grid; and are designed to last a lifetime.

None of that applies to throwing a corrugated iron roof over a side passage.

Thatnastyboy · 11-10-2018 3:20pm

Kamili wrote: »

If it does go up on daft it would have to meet regs whereby the BER is listed in the advert. That place won't get a BER rating, so its clearly illegal and would quite quickly be removed.

Whats the BER rating for outside? :pac:

Graces7 · 11-10-2018 3:25pm

Shenshen wrote: »

From your link :

Typically around 16 to 40 square metres in floor area these mini houses are insulated to near zero energy standards; are complete homes; are quick to build in sustainable materials; have LED lighting; cost virtually nothing to heat; and are double-glazed. They’re also cheap to build, at about £1,100 / €1,250 per square metre plus VAT; are frequently off-grid; and are designed to last a lifetime.

None of that applies to throwing a corrugated iron roof over a side passage.

i hear you; what I was meaning was a cheap copy of a good idea.. If you google images "tiny homes" I think you will see what I mean. Mimicry. ( working on a very dodgy internet connection)

They are the rage in the US and some are as shoddy as this one.

thesandeman · 11-10-2018 3:25pm

This ad popped up as I was browsing another thread. It was gone after I took the screenshot so I couldn't find it again.
But anyway it's got all the mod cons.

Zulu · 11-10-2018 3:27pm

Shenshen wrote: »

None of that applies to throwing a corrugated iron roof over a side passage.

ah ah, (marine possibly, but I doubt) ply roof.

ShaneC93 · 11-10-2018 3:31pm

thesandeman wrote: »

This ad popped up as I was browsing another thread. It was gone after I took the screenshot so I couldn't find it again.
But anyway it's got all the mod cons.

Doesn't look that bad compared to the shed and some other things on here. €950 is fairly steep for one room but at least it's a nice house. Another Spotahome property checked by Veronica too.

https://www.spotahome.com/dublin/for-rent:rooms/157142

BandMember · 11-10-2018 3:34pm

Kamili wrote: »

If it does go up on daft it would have to meet regs whereby the BER is listed in the advert. That place won't get a BER rating, so its clearly illegal and would quite quickly be removed.

Plenty of illegal places and places without a BER Rating have been up on Daft before, only ever been removed when places like this thread pointed them out and Daft/LL got some flak over it.

Mollyb60 · 11-10-2018 4:16pm

ShaneC93 wrote: »

Doesn't look that bad compared to the shed and some other things on here. €950 is fairly steep for one room but at least it's a nice house. Another Spotahome property checked by Veronica too.

https://www.spotahome.com/dublin/for-rent:rooms/157142

Oh dear, Veronica is looking a bit rough in the pictures on the site. When did she grow that beard?

Also is it just me or does the window in that room look very odd? Looks like the stud wall is coming into the middle of it. Have the owners just divided up a room to rent it out? And the house owners renting that box room for €950 are disgraceful.

ShaneC93 · 11-10-2018 8:08pm

Mollyb60 wrote: »

Have the owners just divided up a room to rent it out? And the house owners renting that box room for €950 are disgraceful.

Seems like it. The floorplan shows the house has 10-bedrooms yet it's meant to be a 6-bed.. At €950/month each they're raking in a small fortune.

jamesbondings · 11-10-2018 11:21pm

Mitch Connor wrote: »

well I am seeing loads of banner ads for them now.

If you see one, click it. It costs them money! Most likely each time.

Grayson · 11-10-2018 11:44pm

ShaneC93 wrote: »

Seems like it. The floorplan shows the house has 10-bedrooms yet it's meant to be a 6-bed.. At €950/month each they're raking in a small fortune.

Holy crap. I wouldn't have noticed that. It's lie a small hotel.

wonski · 11-10-2018 11:55pm

Grayson wrote: »

Holy crap. I wouldn't have noticed that. It's lie a small hotel.

Females only hotel btw.

12-10-2018 7:56am

Deleted User wrote: »

The video's been taken down, but this is the internet and there are other copies available

and it's back (the video that is)

https://vimeo.com/294428854

gozunda · 12-10-2018 11:34am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

and it's back (the video that is)

https://vimeo.com/294428854

I very much doubt there was planning permission sought for that.

I was trying to figure out where the tennant was supposed to even hang their clothes ....

wonski · 12-10-2018 11:48am

And how the hell are you supposed to climb those "steps"??? Awkward angle tbh.

Terrible that someone even considered renting this out...

Graces7 · 12-10-2018 12:44pm

Attractive house, until you see the second bedroom..

https://www.daft.ie/clare/houses-for-rent/mullagh/doonogan-mullagh-mullagh-clare-1859138/

Lady Haywire · 12-10-2018 12:50pm

Plaid carpets, crenellations and a cannon......

https://www.daft.ie/meath/houses-for-sale/castlejordan/heilan-hame-streamstown-castlejordan-meath-1345164/

wonski · 12-10-2018 12:56pm

Lady Haywire wrote: »

Plaid carpets, crenellations and a cannon......

https://www.daft.ie/meath/houses-for-sale/castlejordan/heilan-hame-streamstown-castlejordan-meath-1345164/

Have you noticed the dog???

Scared the **** out of me!

steves2 · 12-10-2018 1:05pm

That video of the spotahome place in Sutton gives me the chills, not out of fear but more the cold you'd get having to spend a night there. There's reports now of landlords and agencies demanding "viewing fees" from prospective tenants. The bottom hasn't been reached yet it seems...

Boom_Bap · 12-10-2018 1:12pm

wonski wrote: »

Have you noticed the dog???

Scared the **** out of me!

In a house like that, it's called a hound, not a dog

Speedsie · 12-10-2018 1:29pm

gozunda wrote: »

I very much doubt there was planning permission sought for that.

I was trying to figure out where the tennant was supposed to even hang their clothes ....

There's a couple of pegs with clothes hangers.... I suspect that's the 'wardrobe'

https://imgur.com/a/YHpM6pv

wonski · 12-10-2018 1:32pm

Boom_Bap wrote: »

In a house like that, it's called a hound, not a dog

Where I come from this small creature wouldn't even be called a dog

Speedsie · 12-10-2018 1:34pm

Lady Haywire wrote: »

Plaid carpets, crenellations and a cannon......

https://www.daft.ie/meath/houses-for-sale/castlejordan/heilan-hame-streamstown-castlejordan-meath-1345164/

If it had a central vacuum system, why is there a miele vacuum cleaner in the hall/foyer?

I suspect that terrier is a cast iron door stop.

gozunda · 12-10-2018 1:47pm

Image of the 'studio' to rent from the outside for posterity ...

sm171 · 12-10-2018 1:53pm

gozunda wrote: »

Image of the 'studio' to rent from the outside for posterity ...

Wow. Just wow.

Boom_Bap · 12-10-2018 2:04pm

gozunda wrote: »

Image of the 'studio' to rent from the outside for posterity ...

That would need planning permission because of the height of the structure I believe.

Who wants to pretend to be the neighbour and file a complaint and watch the greedy money hungry owners that want 700 euro a month for this have to pull this down.

Aisling(",) · 12-10-2018 2:29pm

Boom_Bap wrote: »

In a house like that, it's called a hound, not a dog

I must be blind.
Where's the madra?

I could just see the little statue beside the radiator.

gozunda · 12-10-2018 2:33pm

Speedsie wrote: »

There's a couple of pegs with clothes hangers.... I suspect that's the 'wardrobe'

https://imgur.com/a/YHpM6pv

How could I have missed that lol!

gozunda · 12-10-2018 2:34pm

Boom_Bap wrote: »

In a house like that, it's called a hound, not a dog

House like that has notions not hounds ...

Aglomerado · 12-10-2018 2:38pm

Here's another monstrosity, complete with limestone "Constellations" (I think they meant crenellations)!!!!

Vile pastiche but the interior is lovely.

https://www.daft.ie/clare/houses-for-sale/newmarket-on-fergus/kells-urlanmore-newmarket-on-fergus-clare-1602244/

Complete with own Caravaggio....

ShaneC93 · 12-10-2018 2:43pm

gozunda wrote: »

Image of the 'studio' to rent from the outside for posterity ...

I really hope the neighbours complain and they end up getting a huge fine. But realistically instead they'll list it on Airbnb as a 'unique, once in a lifetime treehouse-esque living experience' and make a small fortune from short-term lets without even a telling off.

inforfun · 12-10-2018 2:59pm

Extension cant exceed 40 sqm and can not be higher that the original building.
I think they knew exactly what they were doing regulation wise.

Boom_Bap · 12-10-2018 3:00pm

ShaneC93 wrote: »

I really hope the neighbours complain and they end up getting a huge fine. But realistically instead they'll list it on Airbnb as a 'unique, once in a lifetime treehouse-esque living experience' and make a small fortune from short-term lets without even a telling off.

It's not even near a tree!

Thatnastyboy · 12-10-2018 3:00pm

As an airbnb i've no major issue with it tbh, stayed in worse :pac:

ShaneC93 · 12-10-2018 3:12pm

inforfun wrote: »

Extension cant exceed 40 sqm and can not be higher that the original building.
I think they knew exactly what they were doing regulation wise.

I don't think that planning exception applies here because it's only for extensions made behind the house whereas this studio is in the side passage. Also I believe this would apply to this situation:

Garages or sheds to the side of the house must match the finish of the house and may not be lived in or used for commercial purposes

(for the extension to qualify for a development not requiring planning permission)

So they didn't get planning and it looks like it would be required.

TerrorFirmer · 12-10-2018 4:15pm

Yeah when it's on the streetscape like that, not a chance you'd get away with it. Hopefully they get a tear-down order.

Grayson · 12-10-2018 4:31pm

Aglomerado wrote: »

Here's another monstrosity, complete with limestone "Constellations" (I think they meant crenellations)!!!!

Vile pastiche but the interior is lovely.

https://www.daft.ie/clare/houses-for-sale/newmarket-on-fergus/kells-urlanmore-newmarket-on-fergus-clare-1602244/

Complete with own Caravaggio....

Jesus that's ugly. What kind of person would design/build that?

12-10-2018 4:52pm

inforfun wrote: »

Extension cant exceed 40 sqm and can not be higher that the original building.
I think they knew exactly what they were doing regulation wise.

Yes, permitted development, assuming they havn't already extended at the back.

Purple Mountain · 12-10-2018 4:56pm

gozunda wrote: »

Image of the 'studio' to rent from the outside for posterity ...

Greed and exploitation of the highest order.

-=al=- · 12-10-2018 8:10pm

If the building inspector asks, it's not a room. It's a window box

engiweirdo · 12-10-2018 8:56pm

Aglomerado wrote: »

Here's another monstrosity, complete with limestone "Constellations" (I think they meant crenellations)!!!!

Vile pastiche but the interior is lovely.

https://www.daft.ie/clare/houses-for-sale/newmarket-on-fergus/kells-urlanmore-newmarket-on-fergus-clare-1602244/

Complete with own Caravaggio....

Horrendous. And feckin chairs/sofas everywhere. A knackers castle.

HeidiHeidi · 12-10-2018 8:59pm

engiweirdo wrote: »

Horrendous. And feckin chairs/sofas everywhere. A knackers castle.

It's last year's powder blue faux-leather 3-piece suite liberally distrubuted around the bedrooms that particularly caught my eye!

Would they not just have sold it/given it away?

13-10-2018 12:23am

gozunda wrote: »

Image of the 'studio' to rent from the outside for posterity ...

Some before and after shots as well.
5qFshM1

https://imgur.com/gallery/5qFshM1

endacl · 13-10-2018 12:25am

Boom_Bap wrote: »

It's not even near a tree!

It's made of tree.

ShaneC93 · 13-10-2018 12:43am

Deleted User wrote: »

Some before and after shots as well.

https://imgur.com/gallery/5qFshM1

Where did those pictures come from? Angry neighbour or the owners themselves?

BandMember · 13-10-2018 1:17pm

How has none of their neighbours objected or lodged a complaint to the Council???

People have done it for a lot less....

If that property protestor crowd want to protest something, they should call around to this place for a cup of tea.

Boom_Bap · 15-10-2018 11:59am

The one and only comment:

How long did it take you to get a code variance and building permit to put that within the right of way like that?

Who'd live in a house like this? Part 2

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