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Milk Price III

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  • #52
    Mooooo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Australia has had issues. Dunno about nz but that's more or less a monopoly anyway. US has had issues also there was an article a while back about a couple of farms in New York left with no processor to buy their milk as original one had enough and didn't renew contract. Herds culled and/ or milk spilled. Canada is a totally protected market with the way there quota system works


  • #53
    kowtow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭kowtow


    mf240 wrote:
    Ye would need a translator


    Sounds a bit far to go. We might have to tax the lorries.


  • #54
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    There is plenty spare capacity in the system here. All analysis showed that 2 X 7.5 tone driers would take our extra production. Those have gone into Bellview and Mallow. So all other expansion by the other processors is a bonus.

    Don't really be taken in by the cries that the factory is full.


  • #55
    Mooooo
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    Why would they build steel that wasn't needed?


  • #56
    Mooooo
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    https://twitter.com/FarmersGuardian/status/798549301043478528
    A few lads up north must be reading boards with freedom's idea of stopping supply before Xmas.


  • #57
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    I'm just giving the stats based on the projected increased output nationally,
    15/hr drying capacity. Bellview and Mallow, the two big investments, equal that.
    I think it is also fair to conclude that the suppliers to Glanbia and Dairygold took a hit for those capital programmes in the past 18 months.

    Doubt if they will go ahead of the pack when the bulk of the payment is made, TBH.


  • #58
    kowtow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭kowtow


    Mooooo wrote:
    A few lads up north must be reading boards with freedom's idea of stopping supply before Xmas.


    I see that reported again this morning. 250 suppliers?

    Will be interesting to see how it plays out.

    Reading the sorry story of these MSAs and their asymmetric terms is depressing, so far from the original ethos of the cooperative movement.

    We should be building a cooperative movement for the 21st century and beyond, not drawing the marrow out of the one we have under cover of "investment".


  • #59
    6480
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 725 ✭✭✭6480


    kowtow wrote: »
    I see that reported again this morning. 250 suppliers?

    Will be interesting to see how it plays out.

    Reading the sorry story of these MSAs and their asymmetric terms is depressing, so far from the original ethos of the cooperative movement.

    We should be building a cooperative movement for the 21st century and beyond, not drawing the marrow out of the one we have under cover of "investment".

    At least they are talking about doing a strike while us lads down south wouldn't even threaten our co op s


  • #60
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,329 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    6480 wrote: »
    At least they are talking about doing a strike while us lads down south wouldn't even threaten our co op s

    A tad unfair ,lads are great to talk here and amongst one another etc but when it comes down to actually organising and turning up to a protest most of us are sheep and all talk .excuse after excuse rolled out


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  • #61
    Keepgrowing
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    6480 wrote: »
    At least they are talking about doing a strike while us lads down south wouldn't even threaten our co op s

    Would you dump your milk for a few days?


  • #62
    Mooooo
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    Keepgrowing wrote: »
    Would you dump your milk for a few days?

    I thought stopping collections would be enough? Perhaps in north given flatter supply curve they may not be able to hold the extra milk?


  • #63
    farisfat
    Registered Users Posts: 338 ✭✭farisfat


    Keepgrowing wrote: »
    Would you dump your milk for a few days?

    Theirs talk that the aurivo liquid suppliers are going to pull the plug


  • #64
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,329 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    farisfat wrote: »
    Theirs talk that the aurivo liquid suppliers are going to pull the plug

    Wonder when push comes to shove will they ,talk is cheap


  • #65
    kowtow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭kowtow


    Mooooo wrote:
    I thought stopping collections would be enough? Perhaps in north given flatter supply curve they may not be able to hold the extra milk?


    Could always do what the railway unions used to do and have a "go slow".

    Fit a half inch stainless steel cock on the bulk tank, for example.


  • #66
    farmerjj
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,088 ✭✭✭farmerjj


    Is it not the northern lads that caused the problem,s with cheap milk down south, and in assents took so many liquid milk suppliers out?


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  • #67
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Kerry up 2c to 28c/l incl vat.

    http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/kerry-the-latest-co-op-to-increase-october-milk-price/


  • #68
    wats the craic
    Registered Users Posts: 532 ✭✭✭wats the craic


    strathroy have set their price as follows . 27 cpl plus .5 cpl winter bonus plus .5 cpl quailty bonus , plus vat . which comes to 29 .45 cpl for spring contract . winter 27cpl plus 7 cpl winter bonus plus quailty bonus .5cpl plus vat . comes to 36.294


  • #69
    Mooooo
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    wats the craic wrote: »
    strathroy have set their price as follows . 27 cpl plus .5 cpl winter bonus plus .5 cpl quailty bonus , plus vat . which comes to 29 .45 cpl for spring contract . winter 27cpl plus 7 cpl winter bonus plus quailty bonus .5cpl plus vat . comes to 36.294

    Are those bonuses added before or after solids adjustment?


  • #70
    wats the craic
    Registered Users Posts: 532 ✭✭✭wats the craic


    Mooooo wrote: »
    Are those bonuses added before or after solids adjustment?

    all part of the base price


  • #71
    Fixture
    Registered Users Posts: 126 ✭✭Fixture


    Mooooo wrote: »
    Are those bonuses added before or after solids adjustment?

    Have they their own lab or who tests constituents for them?


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  • #72
    wats the craic
    Registered Users Posts: 532 ✭✭✭wats the craic


    all independently tested to set a fair price for their farmers


  • #73
    Keepgrowing
    Registered Users Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭Keepgrowing


    wats the craic wrote: »
    strathroy have set their price as follows . 27 cpl plus .5 cpl winter bonus plus .5 cpl quailty bonus , plus vat . which comes to 29 .45 cpl for spring contract . winter 27cpl plus 7 cpl winter bonus plus quailty bonus .5cpl plus vat . comes to 36.294

    What months is the winter bonus paid over?


  • #74
    wats the craic
    Registered Users Posts: 532 ✭✭✭wats the craic


    Keepgrowing wrote: »
    What months is the winter bonus paid over?

    i think from oct to march


  • #75
    GrasstoMilk
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    wats the craic wrote: »
    i think from oct to march

    Does it increase at all? Glanbia winter milk is from October to Feb.
    Does it have a set volume?


  • #76
    Mooooo
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    Dairygold is Nov to Feb. WELL back in the bonus too.....


  • #77
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,822 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    GrasstoMilk wrote: »
    Does it increase at all? Glanbia winter milk is from October to Feb.
    Does it have a set volume?
    Liquid milk is october to march, anyone hear anything on price for this year?


  • #78
    GrasstoMilk
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    whelan2 wrote: »
    Liquid milk is october to march, anyone hear anything on price for this year?

    Baileys, which I'm in is October till feb iirc


  • #79
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,822 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    GrasstoMilk wrote: »
    Baileys, which I'm in is October till feb iirc
    Any word on price?


  • #80
    GrasstoMilk
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    whelan2 wrote: »
    Any word on price?

    Baileys is fixed never changes
    7c oct, 8c nov, 10c Dec, 9c Jan, 8c Feb

    Thinks I have that right


  • #81
    Keepgrowing
    Registered Users Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭Keepgrowing


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Any word on price?

    Baileys price set and doesn't change. Renegotiated every few yrs


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  • #82
    wats the craic
    Registered Users Posts: 532 ✭✭✭wats the craic


    for the winter contract you get paid the bonus for all milk supplied


  • #83
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,822 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Keepgrowing wrote: »
    Baileys price set and doesn't change. Renegotiated every few yrs
    Is it a contract like liquid milk?


  • #84
    Keepgrowing
    Registered Users Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭Keepgrowing


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Is it a contract like liquid milk?

    It's a contract but different supply terms to liquid.

    Short version is October to mid Feb inclusive with a % before and after Jan 1.

    Unlike liquid we don't have a daily min amount. Any supplied over not bonused


  • #85
    Water John
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    I think Dairygold is 5c for three months, winter bonus.


  • #86
    Mooooo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    5.6c Nov to Feb inclusive based on a percentage of 09/10 supply year and anything over the winter amount gets no bonus


  • #87
    whelan2
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    What's the delay with glanbia putting the milk statements up on line. Thought they were to be up on 16th of the month?


  • #88
    Keepgrowing
    Registered Users Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭Keepgrowing


    IFA: October Milk Price Update: Arrabawn price +1.5c/l to 26.78c/l + VAT, 28.18c/l incl VAT.

    IFA: October milk price update: Kerry lifts by 2c/l to 26.7c/ + VAT.


  • #89
    jaymla627
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    whelan2 wrote: »
    What's the delay with glanbia putting the milk statements up on line. Thought they were to be up on 16th of the month?

    Their not even bothering to test my milk anymore went 12 days without any test results and when one finally came through it was for my last collection still missing the previous 3 collections results, their i.t department seems fairly piss poor to be fair


  • #90
    blue5000
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,696 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Keepgrowing wrote: »
    IFA: October Milk Price Update: Arrabawn price +1.5c/l to 26.78c/l + VAT, 28.18c/l incl VAT.

    IFA: October milk price update: Kerry lifts by 2c/l to 26.7c/ + VAT.

    Is transport included/excluded in these prices?

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



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  • #91
    orm0nd
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    blue5000 wrote: »
    Is transport included/excluded in these prices?

    no collection charge arrabawn


  • #92
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    blue5000 wrote: »
    Is transport included/excluded in these prices?
    No collection charge in Kerry either unless you are collected more than 15 times in a month.


  • #93
    Fixture
    Registered Users Posts: 126 ✭✭Fixture


    whelan2 wrote: »
    What's the delay with glanbia putting the milk statements up on line. Thought they were to be up on 16th of the month?

    Is it not usually 18th?


  • #94
    whelan2
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    Fixture wrote: »
    Is it not usually 18th?

    No statement was always on line to view on 16th. Money in account on 18th


  • #95
    topgeas
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    whelan2 wrote: »
    No statement was always on line to view on 16th. Money in account on 18th

    My statement for October in but still showing September on glanbia connect.


  • #96
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,822 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    topgeas wrote: »
    My statement for October in but still showing September on glanbia connect.
    Thanks must be just after going up net milk price of 38.26 cpl for october for me


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  • #97
    Wildsurfer
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    whelan2 wrote: »
    Thanks must be just after going up net milk price of 38.26 cpl for october for me
    Shhh don't tell anyone your getting that much or no one will believe the industry is in crisis! That's a good price above base may I ask your solids for October?


  • #98
    whelan2
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    Wildsurfer wrote: »
    Shhh don't tell anyone your getting that much or no one will believe the industry is in crisis! That's a good price above base may I ask your solids for October?
    pr 3.7 and bf 4.2 have a good sized liquid quota


  • #99
    Mooooo
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    whelan2 wrote: »
    Thanks must be just after going up net milk price of 38.26 cpl for october for me

    What's the liquid price whelan? Good price and solids well done


  • #100
    OverRide
    Closed Accounts Posts: 665 ✭✭✭OverRide


    The liquid price looks to be 8c ahead of base
    It's hard to work out with solids
    Mine are similar to whelan2's ending up with 38.39c
    It's a fair return and please God will go higher


  • #101
    Timmaay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,394 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Decent price here also, using the late spring calvers to help fill my winter contract working very nicely for me so far, similar litres to Oct 2015, but solids up a big amount, cheque is 3k up on Oct 2015.


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