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Airport alert as lethal coronavirus on our doorstep

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭DesperateDan


    This is the sort of thing that will probably kill us all off, not aliens / asteroids / nuclear war.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 312 ✭✭73bc61lyohr0mu


    Remember when Ebola was going to kill us all? Or SARS? Or Swine Flu? Mass hysteria as usual and the media are loving it. Wait until this illness becomes boring and you won't hear anything more about it. Live your life, relax and don't believe the sensationalist nonsense out there..


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭DesperateDan


    Remember when Ebola was going to kill us all? Or SARS? Or Swine Flu? Mass hysteria as usual and the media are loving it. Wait until this illness becomes boring and you won't hear anything more about it. Live your life, relax and don't believe the sensationalist nonsense out there..

    Those were only contained due to extensive international efforts, they didn't just disappear. Someone has eaten an infected bat or a koala in China and the repercussions are being felt across the world. The antibiotics crisis doesn't help things either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 824 ✭✭✭The chan chan man


    Well, if there’s any country that can make a complete tits of this, its us..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    It's a relatively minor virus as it is though, only really dangerous to those immunocompromised or the old, just like a lot of other viruses.

    Antibiotic make no difference whatsoever anyway, it's a virus.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    Those were only contained due to extensive international efforts, they didn't just disappear. Someone has eaten an infected bat or a koala in China and the repercussions are being felt across the world. The antibiotics crisis doesn't help things either.

    Agree with most of your point but antibiotics will not help with a virus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    It is mutating they said at the start, and there have been many deaths already. Wise to take no risks.. Hope for the best but prepare for the worst

    They are acting wisely and responsibly
    Hurrache wrote: »
    It's a relatively minor virus as it is though, only really dangerous to those immunocompromised or the old, just like a lot of other viruses.

    Antibiotic make no difference whatsoever anyway, it's a virus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Just waiting for this new virus to be blamed on climate change, can’t be long now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    Well, if there’s any country that can make a complete tits of this, its us..

    Wow, the doom and gloom brigade media has really done a job in making peoples outlook overly negative. Things really aren't that bad in this country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,385 ✭✭✭RebelButtMunch


    Remember when Ebola was going to kill us all? Or SARS? Or Swine Flu? Mass hysteria as usual and the media are loving it. Wait until this illness becomes boring and you won't hear anything more about it. Live your life, relax and don't believe the sensationalist nonsense out there..

    Yep. Ebola still going strong in Africa... where's the headlines?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,522 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    Someone has eaten a... koala in China
    :confused::confused:
    come again?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    Remember when Ebola was going to kill us all? Or SARS? Or Swine Flu? Mass hysteria as usual and the media are loving it. Wait until this illness becomes boring and you won't hear anything more about it. Live your life, relax and don't believe the sensationalist nonsense out there..

    I agree.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,881 ✭✭✭Peatys


    Well, if there’s any country that can make a complete tits of this, its us..

    China: hold my tea


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    Remember when Ebola was going to kill us all? Or SARS? Or Swine Flu? Mass hysteria as usual and the media are loving it. Wait until this illness becomes boring and you won't hear anything more about it. Live your life, relax and don't believe the sensationalist nonsense out there..

    I feel sorry for young people these days. They are being bombarded with fear stories on a constant basis. It cannot be easy on their mental health.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,330 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Ah jeeze not the Russians again...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭nthclare


    Nothing against the OP but I love the sensationalist headline in the post.

    Reminds me of the time in the 90's some guy caught a tope on a rod and line way up the Shannon Estuary, and the headline on the paper was something onto Jaws is getting nearer to Limerick city..

    A tope is a small shark which is common enough around the coast and can grow up to 6ft in length.
    Harmless but one would have to be careful while unhooking them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,767 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    There have been 44 deaths so far this season from flu in Ireland (the 'ordinary' variety of flu) and around 2700 hospital admissions. That is from the HSE; normally there are between 80 and 120 deaths in a season. Last year there were 102 deaths.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,881 ✭✭✭Peatys


    looksee wrote: »
    There have been 44 deaths so far this season from flu in Ireland (the 'ordinary' variety of flu) and around 2700 hospital admissions? That is from the HSE; normally there are between 80 and 120 deaths in a season. Last year there were 102 deaths.

    I've man flu since yesterday.. you telling me this is the end?!


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    Saw the headline and assumed the OP was just trying to do a dramatic impression of the Indo. Seems the paper is happy to be more and more tabloid itself!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Remember when Ebola was going to kill us all? Or SARS? Or Swine Flu? Mass hysteria as usual and the media are loving it. Wait until this illness becomes boring and you won't hear anything more about it. Live your life, relax and don't believe the sensationalist nonsense out there..

    There will always be those who use alarmism or who just like to believe the worst doomsday scenario possible.

    That said - I would recommend an excellent overview on plagues over the course of human history, which have been responsible for the deaths of many millions and how a number of specific regions - - one which is China effectively serve as disease pools for the generation of new forms of infection. Worth a read.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plagues_and_Peoples


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,654 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    Peatys wrote: »
    I've man flu since yesterday.. you telling me this is the end?!

    Yes. Put your affairs in order and inform your loved ones.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,881 ✭✭✭Peatys


    Yes. Put your affairs in order and inform your loved ones.

    I hereby leave this half finished bowl of crunchy nuts to my next door neighbor. She always loved my crunchy nuts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,865 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,984 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    looksee wrote: »
    There have been 44 deaths so far this season from flu in Ireland (the 'ordinary' variety of flu) and around 2700 hospital admissions? That is from the HSE; normally there are between 80 and 120 deaths in a season. Last year there were 102 deaths.

    But that's not 'sexy' enough for the 24hr news and media.

    It has to be a killer virus from abroad, not plain old flu


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    Peatys wrote: »
    I hereby leave this half finished bowl of crunchy nuts to my next door neighbor. She always loved my crunchy nuts.

    She is ill too ;)


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Someone has eaten an infected bat or a koala in China

    What a year. Straight from the fire and into the frying pan.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    The media hungry for clicks again..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭TheBoyConor


    What a load of chit.

    It's a cold.

    Tell that man in Belfast to have a lemsip and a hot whiskey and watch some netflix. Be grand.

    remember when sars & Bird flu was going to wipe out the human race? Turned out that the only way to contract it is if you were living in a hen house in Thailand with your face up a ducks arse for 12 hours a day.

    Same with swine flu. A load of bollox.

    For normal healthy people, these are non-issues.

    It is only if you have a AIDS or a knackered immune system or if you are a 137 year old diabetic that these are an issue. But sure then the regular flu would probably finish you off just as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,513 ✭✭✭Dubh Geannain


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    Just waiting for this new virus to be blamed on climate change, can’t be long now.

    The warming sea temperatures off the China coast created the perfect conditions for the virus to mutate within the local sea weed. Ironically in an attempt to reduce their carbon footprint and move to a more plant based diet locals have been eating more of this seaweed.

    So the people causing climate change are to blame and the people trying to do something about it are also to blame. So no ones not to blame.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    You can nearly sense from news readers that they are fed up propping up these continual fear stories.
    You can see that they don't believe the hype and don't like saying overly dramatic words like 'deadly', 'lockdown' and 'mutating' (all viruses mutate ffs).
    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,036 ✭✭✭circadian


    Peatys wrote: »
    I've man flu since yesterday.. you telling me this is the end?!

    May as well go on the lash and spend all your savings on coke and hookers, the end is in sight I'm afraid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭TuringBot47


    Someone has eaten an infected bat or a koala in China and the repercussions are being felt across the world.

    Actually snakes I believe.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/22/health/snakes-wuhan-coronavirus-outbreak-conversation-partner/index.html

    They're getting their revenge on St Patrick with biological warfare.
    Very cold blooded those snakes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    finally something which will hopefully bring stock prices back a little


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    We need a poll.

    Flat 7up or hot red lemonade?

    One of those will sort this Corona out.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    We need a poll.

    Flat 7up or hot red lemonade?

    One of those will sort this Corona out.

    A hot cup of scald will cure what ails ya


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,617 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    It’s a symptom of developing countries that animal borne diseases get into the human population. TB here was massive until relatively recently so we shouldn’t look down on anyone because we’re moved beyond that stage in social development and lesser countries have not.

    So in third world countries it’s always going to be the case that these diseases have more opportunities to jump host into an immune compromised human.

    SARS was poorly handled from the start and was way out of control before help was saught, ironically post sars China is a cleaner place to visit.

    The Chinese government may have been a little slow off the start here but measures are in place and one would expect this will be contained and eradicated relatively quickly.

    Someone mentioned eating koala, really a virus like this is more likely to pass from live host to live host rather than food based. Living and working closely with contaminated animals while weak and sick is very likely route.

    Yes the Chinese eat a whole host of animals we don’t but that’s nothing unusual at all, we eat lots of beef which is sacred in maybe Hinduism or some other religion and I’m sure they think we’re monsters. I had an interesting conversation with a Chinese chap about this on my last visit, he said westerners see an animal and think how cute it is, he said most Chinese people look at the same animal and wonder “how will I cook that” :) , it’s just cultural difference. Actually I’d say we are the anomaly as we eat such a narrow range of animals, even in our neighboring France they eat a much wider range of meats than we do, horse, frogs, snails, wild boar, goat etc.

    This is a big deal if your in China at the moment, here in Ireland it’s a news item and no more.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    _Brian wrote: »
    It’s a symptom of developing countries that animal borne diseases get into the human population. TB here was massive until relatively recently so we shouldn’t look down on anyone because we’re moved beyond that stage in social development and lesser countries have not.

    So in third world countries it’s always going to be the case that these diseases have more opportunities to jump host into an immune compromised human.

    SARS was poorly handled from the start and was way out of control before help was saught, ironically post sars China is a cleaner place to visit.

    The Chinese government may have been a little slow off the start here but measures are in place and one would expect this will be contained and eradicated relatively quickly.

    Someone mentioned eating koala, really a virus like this is more likely to pass from live host to live host rather than food based. Living and working closely with contaminated animals while weak and sick is very likely route.

    Yes the Chinese eat a whole host of animals we don’t but that’s nothing unusual at all, we eat lots of beef which is sacred in maybe Hinduism or some other religion and I’m sure they think we’re monsters. I had an interesting conversation with a Chinese chap about this on my last visit, he said westerners see an animal and think how cute it is, he said most Chinese people look at the same animal and wonder “how will I cook that” :) , it’s just cultural difference. Actually I’d say we are the anomaly as we eat such a narrow range of animals, even in our neighboring France they eat a much wider range of meats than we do, horse, frogs, snails, wild boar, goat etc.

    This is a big deal if your in China at the moment, here in Ireland it’s a news item and no more.

    I dont believe it will be eradicated, It will become the norm.

    Swine Flu is still around


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,070 ✭✭✭purple hands


    Do I eat my iodine tablets now or later?!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35 Tuff Gong


    I'll be catching Corona tonight....

    A heap of them, with a wedge of lime!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Yep. Ebola still going strong in Africa... where's the headlines?

    Well there aren't hundreds of thousands of Congolese tourists or students milling around around European streets or universities at any given time.

    An outbreak of a virus such as this in China has a far greater chance of going global in a relatively short period of time.

    SARS in Hong Kong was no joke


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    Yurt! wrote: »
    Well there aren't hundreds of thousands of Congolese tourists or students milling around around European streets or universities at any given time.

    An outbreak of a virus such as this in China has a far greater chance of going global in a relatively short period of time.

    SARS in Hong Kong was no joke

    Swine Flu went Global and still exists today. The media ran out of steam on that one when people figured out that its not much different then Influenza

    I suspect this is going to be the same outcome.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Swine Flu went Global and still exists today. The media ran out of steam on that one when people figured out that its not much different then Influenza

    I suspect this is going to be the same outcome.

    Swine flu vaccine is now in the yearly flu jab, that's why it's not a huge danger anymore. When it was pandemic it killed somewhere between 150'000 - 570'000 people worldwide (not my figures). 13'000 in the US. If you want to call that a tabloid sensationalist driven story you're welcome to. I'm just glad you're not in charge of public safety.

    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/spotlights/pandemic-global-estimates.htm


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    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    Just waiting for this new virus to be blamed on climate change, can’t be long now.

    Well how else would you explain it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    Yurt! wrote: »
    Swine flu vaccine is now in the yearly flu jab, that's why it's not a huge danger anymore. When it was pandemic it killed somewhere between 150'000 - 570'000 people worldwide (not my figures). 13'000 in the US. If you want to call that a tabloid sensationalist driven story you're welcome to. I'm just glad you're not in charge of public safety.

    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/spotlights/pandemic-global-estimates.htm

    The Flu Jab lol

    Influenza (Seasonal)
    Illnesses range from mild to severe and even death. Hospitalization and death occur mainly among high risk groups. Worldwide, these annual epidemics are estimated to result in about 3 to 5 million cases of severe illness, and about 290 000 to 650 000 respiratory deaths.

    https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/influenza-(seasonal)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,006 ✭✭✭xabi


    Told my Doc that I cant stop drinking, he thinks its the Corona Virus


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Member the foot and mouth outbreak a good few years ago? You had to step in disinfectant when entering public buildings etc., where asked if you'd been near farm land when coming back from abroad?
    The Garda HQ in the Phoenix park had a fella spraying water for a time, because they'd ran out of disinfectant but wanted to look like they were following procedure.
    So I reckon we'll be alright ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2



    H1N1 was the first global pandemic novel-flu for 40 years. But hey, you're the expert.

    Flu jab, flu shot, call it what you want. The H1N1 vaccine is included in the innoculation for at-risk age groups now. I suppose the development of that vaccine was a big mad tabloid-driven panic and serves no public-health function or something like that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 Madge2007


    The flu jab 2019/2020 protects again 4 different strains of flu that the WHO thinks are most likely to cause problems this flu season. HSE website gives info on that. Guessing this new one wouldn't be covered as it's a new strain??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Madge2007 wrote: »
    The flu jab 2019/2020 protects again 4 different strains of flu that the WHO thinks are most likely to cause problems this flu season. HSE website gives info on that. Guessing this new one wouldn't be covered as it's a new strain??

    It would take several months to develop a vaccine for a novel-strain such as this. Another complicating factor, I heard this from someone in the know on such matters, is that China stopped sharing disease samples with US health authorities and labs as a sideshow bunfight to the trade war over the past year or so.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    This is a joke

    Irish Independent Headline
    Airport alert as lethal coronavirus on our doorstep, Belfast patient in isolation

    Belfast Telegraph Headline
    Doctors '99% certain' Belfast patient does not have deadly coronavirus


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