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General Election Louth Constituency

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    I forgot about Coffey. She canvassed down in Drogheda and was likeable. Think her stances on a number of issues have diverged from traditional FF though.

    Fitzer? Forget it.
    Eh not that likeable. Blow in/runner was the muttering and there seemed to be other stuff under the surface. She didn't do well.
    Meanwhile RTE had a party political in Dundalk. Breathnach, Munster, Fitzer and McGahon. He actually came across OK. LMFM reckon SF will take two seats and Nash in the running. Sinead Hussey questions whether SF will get both seats.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,252 ✭✭✭joeysoap


    Rte News at 6 featured Louth. Strongest candidates are from drogheda. Fitzer was hopeless. McGahon came across ok. Breathnach, a teacher, spoke about entrepreneurs being the life line of the economy. Give me strength. But he’s guaranteed a seat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52,198 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    is_that_so wrote: »
    FF had Emma Coffey in 2016. Not sure about the court case, which keeps getting put off. I don't think Fitzer can do much on his own. Was never a great TD.

    Would a conviction (criminal record) prevent him from running for FG?
    Just found the answer=

    Rules
    You are disqualified from membership of Dáil Eireann if:

    You are not a citizen of Ireland
    You have not yet reached 21 years of age
    You are a member of a local authority
    You are a senior official of an institution of the European Union, for example, a member of the European Commission or a judge, advocate general or registrar of the European Court of Justice or a member of the Court of Auditors of the European Community
    You are a member of the Garda Siochana
    You are a full-time member of the Defence Forces
    You are a civil servant and it does not specifically state in your contract of employment that you may be a member of the Dáil
    You are a person of unsound mind
    You are presently in prison serving a term greater than 6 months
    You are the President, a member of the Seanad, the Comptroller and Auditor General or a Judge.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,252 ✭✭✭joeysoap


    If Mick Wallace qualifies, for Dail membership, ( not FG) and European Parliament membership, the rules must be ‘loose’ and if Dara Murphy (an FG TD)could be a Junior minister and turn up when the Dail wasn’t actually sitting then FG rules mean diddly squat,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52,198 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    joeysoap wrote: »
    If Mick Wallace qualifies, anyone qualifies.

    Indeed, and Lowry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭Nesta99


    The Louth hospital is a disproportionate issue these days. Most of the candidates talking about reopening it are paying lip service as it's unlikely at this stage it will ever be done. Would require massive investment, staffing and modernisation before it could reopen and with the state the HSE is doomed to for the next decade at least that investment would never be made available even if a pro-reopening candidate made it into government. Short of a Louth TD being given the Health minister post, it's pie in the sky stuff at this stage, much as it pains me to say it.

    What are people's main concerns about Louth in general? For me it's crime. Breathnach's calls for cross-border crime taskforce resonates well with me. The border is a magical forcefield for criminals as it stands. Would like to see that tackled properly somehow. Depending on how the Brexit deal pans out a flare up of smuggling and cross-border organised crime is very much on the cards.


    Healthcare in the region is an issue but dont let any politician ramble on about reinstating the Louth County Hospital to full acute status. Too far gone at this stage. What candidates could be pushed on is using the capacity at LCH for stepdown beds, convalesance after time in OLOL to free beds there and also respite capacity. The LCH is already the regions centre for Endoscopy services and similar daycase eg opthamolgy and at a push 'minor' op procedure services could be developed to take presure off OLOL. MIU and the expansion of this to some paediatrics is progress. A one stop shop primary care centre in Dundalk is badly needed - GP referrals for xrays and minor diagnostics in preperation for a consultation in OLOL would help wiaiting lists and reduce waiting times at clinics. I see today there is a planning application to add 2 stories to OLOL for acute surgical facilities which will have a significant impact. A pre-admission holding area so that people are not lying on stretchers (usually from an ambulance unit tying up that unit) is a must but they are running out of space on the current site. Acquiring what is currently United Park for anciilliary services to allow the more expansions of the more acute needs on the main campus should be pushed.

    Safe injecting facilities across the region with support and detox services should top candiates agendas also.

    Crime is a major issue currently. I'm not sure that there is a quick fix with the general time for due process to occur. As bad as it is, short of something like internment of suspects we have to let police do their job. What is probably more of an issue is reform of the judiciary, expiditing criminal cases and providing capacity in the prion service. That said do we want to be a society that is always all about locking people up? There are other models to look at eg restorative justice that are proven to be more effective than incarceration. Dealing with the drug epidemic even to the extent of legalisation would completely change criminality in this country.

    Jobs in a Drogheda v Dundalk v Dublin shouldnt rank that highly in concerns. up to 1 hour commute to work people should adapt to. Time to lose the Dundalk V Drogheda stuff and focus on what can benefit the region. Appropriate transport infrastructure is the main issue here. There should not be hundreds of cars parked at each junction off the M1. Safe carparking, car pooling initiatives, buses should be introduced at ky points off the M1. (re)Opening of railway stations eg Dunleer and an audit of old lines that could be reopened eg Navan to Dublin.

    Globally and very much nationally and locally we need to take a long term look at the nation's health-GP referral schemes to personal trainers may seem daft and extravigant but would save a fortune in the medium and long term.

    I'm intrigued by the 'living wage' experiments that have been done in Scandanavia and something we should look in to here as a reform of the welfare system.

    We are so far behind on enviornmental issues that it is a national embaressment but this is not just for new policies with new politicians - we need to consider our own conduct and attitude toward things beyond recycling as flytipping and general littering is costing unnecessary money to clean up. Maybe school initiatives to develop respect invested in?

    Cross border issues and Brexit is a wait and see but initially get rid of the whole dying poluting agri fuel and use the tax system with authorised suppliers to agriculture directly. There are bound to be ways more sophisticated to tackle this issue than spending millions cleaning up the mess by smuggling fuels and the chemicals left from the 'washing'.

    Incoherent, misspelt ramble over...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭Salary Negotiator


    Fitzer appears to have left a branded car in my housing estate. No NCT, no tax or insurance displayed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭10green bottles


    Fitzer appears to have left a branded car in my housing estate. No NCT, no tax or insurance displayed.

    All in the post :pac:

    Call the guards and get it towed away.:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭10green bottles


    LOUTH:

    Big bother in wee county according to Fionnán Sheehan in this mornings Irish Indo.

    "It's not guaranteed but Sinn Féin is in play to hold two seats with Imelda Munster in Drogheda, and Ruairí Ó Murchú in Dundalk, replacing Gerry Adams. Fine Gael's Fergus O'Dowd and Fianna Fáil's Declan Breathnach should be alright. Then there's a right scrap for the seat held by Independent former Fine Gael TD Peter Fitzpatrick - and the second Sinn Féin seat if it comes loose - with Labour's Ged Nash and Green Mark Dearey. Fianna Fáil's James Byrne and Fine Gael's John McGahon will build for another day."

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/election-2020/bitesize-ballot-the-final-week-whos-on-the-run-or-in-the-running-38920124.html

    For me,atm =

    Breathnach(FF) will top the poll.(1 seat FF)

    SF will hold 2 seats.(2 seats SF)

    O'Dowd(FG) home for all money.(1 seat FG)

    Battle then between Deary(GP),Byrne(FF) & Nash(LAB) for the 5th seat.

    Fitzpatrick(IND) wont get enough votes in South Louth and McGahon(FG) has no real base there either.Will Fitzpatrick transfer well to McGahon?? and vice versa? Bit of anomosity between the two i believe so remains to be seen.BUT bit of a red herring anyway as neither,i believe,will get elected.

    So down to the transfers and imo the fifth and final seat will be between Byrne(FF) -who isn't very well known in North Louth at all, Nash(LAB)-,wont get many votes in North Louth either & Deary(GP) with Deary(GP) justtttttt about getting home on transfers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭Salary Negotiator


    All in the post :pac:

    Call the guards and get it towed away.:p

    Still there this morning at 6am as I was heading off to work. If it’s there when I get home I’ll ask the guards to move it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,184 ✭✭✭✭Pighead


    LOUTH:

    Big bother in wee county according to Fionnán Sheehan in this mornings Irish Indo.

    "It's not guaranteed but Sinn Féin is in play to hold two seats with Imelda Munster in Drogheda, and Ruairí Ó Murchú in Dundalk, replacing Gerry Adams. Fine Gael's Fergus O'Dowd and Fianna Fáil's Declan Breathnach should be alright. Then there's a right scrap for the seat held by Independent former Fine Gael TD Peter Fitzpatrick - and the second Sinn Féin seat if it comes loose - with Labour's Ged Nash and Green Mark Dearey. Fianna Fáil's James Byrne and Fine Gael's John McGahon will build for another day."

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/election-2020/bitesize-ballot-the-final-week-whos-on-the-run-or-in-the-running-38920124.html

    For me,atm =

    Breathnach(FF) will top the poll.(1 seat FF)

    SF will hold 2 seats.(2 seats SF)

    O'Dowd(FG) home for all money.(1 seat FG)

    Battle then between Deary(GP),Byrne(FF) & Nash(LAB) for the 5th seat.

    Fitzpatrick(IND) wont get enough votes in South Louth and McGahon(FG) has no real base there either.Will Fitzpatrick transfer well to McGahon?? and vice versa? Bit of anomosity between the two i believe so remains to be seen.BUT bit of a red herring anyway as neither,i believe,will get elected.

    So down to the transfers and imo the fifth and final seat will be between Byrne(FF) -who isn't very well known in North Louth at all, Nash(LAB)-,wont get many votes in North Louth either & Deary(GP) with Deary(GP) justtttttt about getting home on transfers.
    That's the second or third time recently I've seen somebody tip James Byrne to get a seat. Can't see it. He's not even that well known in Drogheda. He's the Drogs version of John McGahon. Really can't see FF getting two seats.

    My picks: Breathnach, Munster, O'Mhurchu, Nash to get the first four seats with O'Dowd and Fitzer scrapping it out for the fifth and final seat. Hard to call that one but I'm thinking Fitzer may edge it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,252 ✭✭✭joeysoap


    Non election for me so far. First I heard of FG introducing a ‘pre season payment’ for 65 years old (around the JSB rate but not jsb) and a payment equivalent to pension at 66 ( but not ‘the pension’) was Leo on RTE this morning. And that was only in response to a question. Should state here that it doesn’t affect me now, but at 65, for the very first time in my life, I had to apply for JSB and get a public services card.

    0 callers so far and I live in residential area of Dundalk.

    I don’t think Fitzer will get in. He’s really not good enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭Nesta99


    Pighead wrote: »
    That's the second or third time recently I've seen somebody tip James Byrne to get a seat. Can't see it. He's not even that well known in Drogheda. He's the Drogs version of John McGahon. Really can't see FF getting two seats.

    My picks: Breathnach, Munster, O'Mhurchu, Nash to get the first four seats with O'Dowd and Fitzer scrapping it out for the fifth and final seat. Hard to call that one but I'm thinking Fitzer may edge it.

    If Fitzer edges O'Dowd you are suggesting no FG seat which I cant see happening. McGahon will transfer to O'Dowd and get him over the line if he is in trouble. Cant entirely rule out Fitzer due to his county wide profile with the GAA.
    Nash is a hit or miss so a bit like Labour nationwide. Real test for the 'Green Wave' and Deary has a broader profile than many too.

    The 4th amd 5th seats will indicate the king makers in the coalition.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 18,115 ✭✭✭✭ShiverinEskimo


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    SF going to regret only running fourth odd candidates now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Lord TSC wrote: »
    SF going to regret only running fourth odd candidates now.
    Based on their performance in the locals it was the only call. Any party would have done the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Nesta99 wrote: »
    If Fitzer edges O'Dowd you are suggesting no FG seat which I cant see happening. McGahon will transfer to O'Dowd and get him over the line if he is in trouble. Cant entirely rule out Fitzer due to his county wide profile with the GAA.
    Nash is a hit or miss so a bit like Labour nationwide. Real test for the 'Green Wave' and Deary has a broader profile than many too.

    The 4th amd 5th seats will indicate the king makers in the coalition.
    That Green surge is not that big at all. Fitzer will not edge O'Dowd as O'Dowd had to rescue him twice. Looking now like the only question is that last seat with FG v Lab in for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,063 ✭✭✭✭event


    event wrote: »
    2SF
    2FG
    1FF

    Thats me estimate on it but wouldn't be surprised to see 2FF with FG losing 1

    So its looking lilke

    2 SF (O Murchu & Munster)
    1 FF (Breatnach)
    1 FG (O'Dowd)
    1 Lab (Nash


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 282 ✭✭patsman07


    I would hate to see Fitzer re-elected but it wouldn't surprise me at all. I've heard on a few occasions "he's the man to go to to get things done." There's a perception that he's a hard working TD. Personally, I would prefer a politician to have some sort of coherent ideology rather than try and fix the problems of every individual who happens to come knocking. Fitzer's our version of the Healy-Rae's only without the self-awareness to realise it.
    I'm hoping Nash and Deary get in, I think Nash is intelligent and articulate. He's done a lot of work on economic issues like pushing for a living wage etc. The Labour party on a national level seems to be flirting with identity politics which I think is electoral suicide but as far as I can tell Nash has stayed away thankfully. Deary is well known and well liked around Dundalk, I think he comes across well and it's high time we put in place more environmentally friendly policies.

    Unlikely they'll both get in though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭PGE1970


    Ivan Yeats called Breathach,O 'Dowd, Nash, O'Murchu and .......... Byrne!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,184 ✭✭✭✭Pighead


    PGE1970 wrote: »
    Ivan Yeats called Breathach,O 'Dowd, Nash, O'Murchu and .......... Byrne!!
    He's away with the fairies. No way Munster won't get in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭PGE1970


    I wonder if Mary-Lou's narcissism will have cost her party/candidates votes?

    She could have avoided the debate last night and played the victim thus attracting a certain amount of sympathy. Instead, she insisted on appearing and was badly caught out on questions about the central criminal court, the death of Paul Quinn and green energy.

    Apparently, there will be a "massive" amount of investment in electric car chargers. When asked to define "massive", she said that it would be "substantial". When pressed, she couldn't give numbers for either.

    Those that vote for SF, will always vote for SF. Those who may be undecided will surely have been concerned by a "massive" and "substantial" lack of policy detail to enable their political aspirations.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭PGE1970


    Pighead wrote: »
    He's away with the fairies. No way Munster won't get in.

    I agree. I see Munster polling better than O'Murchu and he is probably less likely to succeed than she is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 377 ✭✭garrincha62


    PGE1970 wrote: »
    Ivan Yeats called Breathach,O 'Dowd, Nash, O'Murchu and .......... Byrne!!

    Just listened to that. He also said Dundalk was a bigger town than Drawda. As usual, he's talking through his hoop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,063 ✭✭✭✭event


    PGE1970 wrote: »
    I wonder Mary-Lou's narcissism party will have cost her party/candidates votes?

    She could have avoided the debate last night and played the victim thus attracting a certain amount of sympathy. Instead, she insisted on appearing and was badly caught out on questions about the central criminal court, the death of Paul Quinn and green energy.

    Apparently, there will be a "massive" amount of investment in electric car chargers. When asked to define "massive", she said that it would be "substantial". When pressed, she couldn't give numbers for either.

    Those that vote for SF, will always vote for SF. Those who may be undecided will surely have been concerned by a "massive" and "substantial" lack of policy detail to enable their political aspirations.

    Unfortunately not. I saw loads of people on my FB lately saying they will vote SF time fr change. Would have never voted them before.
    This morning its all comments like Well done Mary Lou, she was great, she showed up the two lads etc.

    So looks like they are going to win a lot of seats regardless


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭CheerLouth


    I think she was really lacking in substance about how she is going to fund her policies etc. However, if you are a mid to late 20's professional on 30K per annum and she's saying she's going to exempt you from the USC for up to the first 30K of your income and then tax people on 140K at 57%, you can see how people would vote for SF. Never mind how they will fund the loss of tax income or the fact that people on and companies offering the few salaries at over 140K will up sticks and leave Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,825 ✭✭✭IvoryTower


    Too many people are pissed off with the housing situation and will vote for sf regardless of what she says. Rather take a chance on the unknown.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,184 ✭✭✭✭Pighead


    Just a quick question regarding fringe candidates that obviously have no chance of winning. The likes of David Bradley who got a couple of hundred votes last time and is going again this time around. Or Topanga Bird who is unknown in Louth and has zero chance of being elected.

    Why do they put themselves forward. I reckon at the very least it's going to cost them a grand as well as hundreds of wasted hours walking the streets and knocking on doors. Is it an ego thing? I see Topanga Bird has had two full page ads in a local paper this week and they don't come cheap. Does she genuinely think she has a chance or is it just a case of being seen to try and do something rather than sniping from the sidelines?

    Any former fringe candidates here able to enlighten me?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,063 ✭✭✭✭event




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 282 ✭✭patsman07


    event wrote: »

    That video came up as an advertisement in my facebook feed the other night. Is he some sort of conspiracy theorist or what's his story?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52,198 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Missed the latest debate.
    Who won last night’s “ Liar’s Cup “.?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,063 ✭✭✭✭event


    patsman07 wrote: »
    That video came up as an advertisement in my facebook feed the other night. Is he some sort of conspiracy theorist or what's his story?

    Me too, he must have paid for the ads so


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,063 ✭✭✭✭event


    Missed the latest debate.
    Who won last night’s “ Liar’s Cup “.?

    I think Leo won it to be honest. MLMD definitely lost though


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    IvoryTower wrote: »
    Too many people are pissed off with the housing situation and will vote for sf regardless of what she says. Rather take a chance on the unknown.

    This really is it.

    FG have had 8 years in power, and for a LOT of people, their lives have stagnated (at best). As such, people will look for a change.

    FF have their hand in the issues too, due to how they acted 10 years ago. And FG have spent the decade in power screaming at people they cannot let FF back in either.

    So the alternative becomes the third biggest party. The one who might, probably struggle to fulfill their promises but might not. They are an unknown, but when the two knowns are such proven disasters, the mystery box becomes a more appealing option.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,252 ✭✭✭joeysoap


    IvoryTower wrote: »
    Too many people are pissed off with the housing situation and will vote for sf regardless of what she says. Rather take a chance on the unknown.


    There’s much more homeless in NI


    https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/20000-northern-ireland-households-are-now-homeless-37719853.html

    There’s 10,000 here and that’s too much but not as ad as NI and half the population.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭PGE1970


    event wrote: »
    I think Leo won it to be honest. MLMD definitely lost though

    That would be my conclusion also.

    I'm not party affiliated and vote for who I consider to be best candidate. I wont be voting or either FG, FF or SF next Saturday so could watch this from perhaps a more neutral perspective.

    I thought Leo spoke best, articulated his policies best and was best briefed. However, he still has a certain D4 attitude and I have great difficulty in respecting a cabinet including him, Simon Harris and Eoghan Murphy. It looks to me like 3 lads from Blackrock playing at being politicians for a school project and making a mess of it.

    Michael Martin did ok. His quip to MLM at the end about her biggest regret being when she joined FF was excellent. Quote of the night! I always get the feeling from him that he is a thoroughly decent man with very good intentions towards the country. But he is a legacy from a bitter past.

    Finally MLM. She began by trying to shout the others down and almost baited them to attack her which, I expect, was a SF ploy to portray the other two (men) as bullies. They were wise to this though. she had uncomfortable moments when dealing (or not) with the Central Criminal Court and the Quinn murder. Her input re car charging points was laughable.

    However, where she and SF fall down is there is no substance on policy to back up their aspirations. I would simply have no confidence in them to run a bath never mind a country. She said nothing last night to dissuade me from this position. I've always seen SF as a party who will complain about everything and will be happy to do so as it suits them better than leading by example.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 18,115 ✭✭✭✭ShiverinEskimo


    MLMcD also deserves huge criticism for her pension policy. Build a load of homes and wait for a baby boom seems to be the genuine plan of attacking the pension shortfall. It's going against every conceivable metric we have that shows we are an aging population with smaller and smaller families even/especially those with their own homes. To go from that suggestion of sending the wimmins home to breed large families to the 'mansplaining' accusation thrown at MM was a cheap and embarassing attempt at being down with the twitterati. Pathetic resorting to claims of sexism in the middle of a debate where you're advocating large families to fix a pension shortfall.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭Salary Negotiator


    Fitzer appears to have left a branded car in my housing estate. No NCT, no tax or insurance displayed.

    And it’s gone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭Nesta99


    This election could really change the Irish political landscape! It could make or break SF on a few levels. If they dont turn poll ratings in to seats it shows a lack of robustness in support and willingness by the electorate to take a chance on a real alternative to FF/FG when it comes to the crunch. It will say plenty about the value of polls too lol! If they do get in to governent I think they would be under greater scrutiny and even held to a higher bar than the usual duo. Its a lot easier to be in opposition and will find themselves being more pragmatic than principled as most parties do when put in government. This will be pounced from day dot and damage them more than similar behaviour of established Govt parties.

    If SF poll as currently predicted there is going to be a lot of difficulty forming a government without a seismic change in policy for parties as independants and fringe parties will not necessarily get any one of 3 partiess polling in and around 23%. So options/opinions? FG with another confidence and supply agreement with FF or visa versa. FF cosy up to SF or visa versa. Or FG/FF/SF (not with eachother) in a rainbow coalition that will have every one of the rest so likely to collapse early.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭CheerLouth


    Nesta99 wrote: »
    If SF poll as currently predicted there is going to be a lot of difficulty forming a government without a seismic change in policy for parties as independants and fringe parties will not necessarily get any one of 3 partiess polling in and around 23%. So options/opinions? FG with another confidence and supply agreement with FF or visa versa. FF cosy up to SF or visa versa. Or FG/FF/SF (not with eachother) in a rainbow coalition that will have every one of the rest so likely to collapse early.

    This is my worry - what if on Monday morning neither FF or FG have a majority (which is the most likely outcome) and there is no possibility of forming a coalition? Are we back to the polls again? And what are the ramifications of that? Would there be a possibility that SF could run more candidates? Or would it be the same candidates - just round 2? The thoughts of it :(


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭Salary Negotiator


    CheerLouth wrote: »
    This is my worry - what if on Monday morning neither FF or FG have a majority (which is the most likely outcome) and there is no possibility of forming a coalition? Are we back to the polls again? And what are the ramifications of that? Would there be a possibility that SF could run more candidates? Or would it be the same candidates - just round 2? The thoughts of it :(

    New election so completely new tickets and SF could run as many candidates as they like.

    It’d be a tough decision for them to call though, if their current rise in the polls is based more in protest at the other 2 parties then a second election would likely see them revert to their previous position. Lisbon and Nice have shown that if there is a protest vote in Ireland it usually falls away the second vote. So running more candidates could split their vote and be a disaster for them.

    Or the polls are not a protest and there really is a swing from FF/FG to SF in which case failing to run more candidates would see them miss out on seats.

    Interesting times ahead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 182 ✭✭Philipx


    Nice bit of electioneering out in Lordship last night.

    FF & FG posters burned off the poles & big hand painted placard advising locals not to vote for Black and Tans.

    They haven't gone away you know. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    CheerLouth wrote: »
    This is my worry - what if on Monday morning neither FF or FG have a majority (which is the most likely outcome) and there is no possibility of forming a coalition? Are we back to the polls again? And what are the ramifications of that? Would there be a possibility that SF could run more candidates? Or would it be the same candidates - just round 2? The thoughts of it :(
    The biggest party will try to form a government. That looks like FF and their target would be the smaller parties plus some sensible Indos. If they don't look like getting there they may look to FG to be a mudguard. If that doesn't work then maybe FG will have a go, but they just won't have the numbers. All of this could take up to at least Easter or even later and we might be back at it again in June. If a deal is done we should have at least 12 months of government but I doubt it will go anywhere near a full Dail term.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Philipx wrote: »
    Nice bit of electioneering out in Lordship last night.

    FF & FG posters burned off the poles & big hand painted placard advising locals not to vote for Black and Tans.

    They haven't gone away you know. :rolleyes:
    Guess it's going to be a fun 3 years of commemorating!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭10green bottles


    Philipx wrote: »
    Nice bit of electioneering out in Lordship last night.

    FF & FG posters burned off the poles & big hand painted placard advising locals not to vote for Black and Tans.

    They haven't gone away you know. :rolleyes:

    Yeah,the poster burners haven't gone away atalllllll!! Everywhere the hoors.:eek::rolleyes:

    https://www.talkofthetown.ie/o-murchu-vows-he-wont-be-intimidated-after-election-posters-are-burned/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52,198 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Interfering with election posters is very childish.
    The last time I did it I was about 9 years old. I drew a moustache on Dev.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,252 ✭✭✭joeysoap


    Yeah,the poster burners haven't gone away atalllllll!! Everywhere the hoors.:eek::rolleyes:

    https://www.talkofthetown.ie/o-murchu-vows-he-wont-be-intimidated-after-election-posters-are-burned/

    Best statement ever

    “Sinn Féin will not be intimidated or bullied.”
    :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭10green bottles


    joeysoap wrote: »
    Best statement ever

    “Sinn Féin will not be intimidated or bullied.”
    :)

    Who are SF intimidating or bullying?:confused:
    You appear to be intimating they are.
    Or am i reading your post wrong?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,252 ✭✭✭joeysoap


    0 callers

    Daughter
    0 callers

    Son
    0 callers

    I think this must widespread


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,252 ✭✭✭joeysoap


    Who are SF intimidating or bullying?:confused:
    You appear to be intimating they are.
    Or am i reading your post wrong?

    I just think it’s funny, that’s all.

    Never insinuated they were intimidating anyone.


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