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Taxi drive complaint - NTA

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,155 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    iamtony wrote:
    so you think we should just say Fook the disabled person they don't need more taxis! Why not get rid of the disabled spot on buses cause you had to stand one day and there could of been 2 extra seats. We have enough saloons we need more wheelchair vehicles simple as that.


    Ah no. I didn't say that. I just pointed out how the taxi drivers view them and why there isn't a big uptake of them. You'll need a taxi driver to give you real facts but the disabled cars cost something like 20k more to put on the road. There's plenty would like to be taxi drivers but they can't afford the disabled cars. If they had regular plates then you'd have more cars on the road. The test isn't putting too many off. It's the cost of the disabled cars


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,801 ✭✭✭iamtony


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    Ah no. I didn't say that. I just pointed out how the taxi drivers view them and why there isn't a big uptake of them. You'll need a taxi driver to give you real facts but the disabled cars cost something like 20k more to put on the road. There's plenty would like to be taxi drivers but they can't afford the disabled cars. If they had regular plates then you'd have more cars on the road. The test isn't putting too many off. It's the cost of the disabled cars
    yeah they aren't cheap that's for sure but I think they are doing the right thing.
    There isn't a lack of saloon taxis in the city, the ratio of taxis to population is much higher than most major cities in the world.
    The problem is everyone wants them at the same time. I can show you photos from Friday night just gone I seen in taxi WhatsApp groups like the old Carlsberg add with so many taxis clogging up the streets.
    And the people who complain are generally the ones who only use them a few times a year and have trouble getting out of town at 4 am Saturday night and think there should be a neverending stream of taxis passing by with the light on. If that was the case on a Saturday night you can bet the rest of the week we would be complaining of thousands of taxis(or ubers if some got their way) causing traffic jams all over the city.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,155 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    Spook_ie wrote:
    If you want more taxis then they should consider schemes how to remove vrt for wheel chair taxis and make the entry cheaper, they already subsidise WATs by a grant scheme but it's not sufficient IMO

    Definitely need something like this.
    iamtony wrote:
    I use Google maps for every journey, even collecting my kids from school for this reason but I know better than it for the most part. It might be sending me one way cause traffic is heavy on the normal route but I know I've a bus lane on that road and it wouldn't effect me. Its a wonderful guide but I wouldn't like my taxi driver using it as gospil that's for sure.


    I'm in appliance repair and put up 60 to 100 miles a day. Like you I have sat nav on all the time. I suppose I'm the opposite to taxi drivers in that I need the quickest route all the time. I was in lucan the other day and the quickest way to my next job in sandymount was over the west link through the port tunnel and over the road east link. Not cheap as far as tolls are concerned but time is money to me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    gmisk wrote: »
    That would be fine...but he had his light on and pulled in when we put hands out...then he asks where we are going...and then suddenly he has a fair....it doesnt sound likely does it? Or fair in the least to me.



    I will be carrying on with the complaint.



    get a life. maybe he thought you were the fare who booked him? then when he pulled in he realized it wasn't you who booked the taxi. big deal if he had the light on or off, get over it. you must not have much to be worried about reporting something like this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,801 ✭✭✭iamtony


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    Definitely need something like this.




    I'm in appliance repair and put up 60 to 100 miles a day. Like you I have sat nav on all the time. I suppose I'm the opposite to taxi drivers in that I need the quickest route all the time. I was in lucan the other day and the quickest way to my next job in sandymount was over the west link through the port tunnel and over the road east link. Not cheap as far as tolls are concerned but time is money to me
    Now you have it. My kids school run again is faster via the m50 but would cost double in a taxi rather than the slightly slower way that I would take a punter on the same journey. Its a bit messed up really but that's the way it is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    iamtony wrote: »
    omg you had trouble getting a taxi after niteclub:eek:
    And don't get me started on bus drivers:pac:
    P. S I never stop in a bus stop unless I reeeaaallyyy have to.

    Don't be so childish.....

    Of course it's hard but 6 accepted my request and cancelled this as they arrived at the main road entrance just outside to the race course.

    That's not on.

    Don't get you started on bus drivers! What's that got to do with taxi complaints.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    how about this situation, taxi driver is in city centre, gets a call to pick up customers in foxrock, sees people on street looking for taxi, asks where they are going to see if its on his way, but they are not going that way. drives away, what harm is done? let this go op, dont be taking food off his table or from his kids mouths. its a tough job being a taxi driver, things like this happen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    Don't be so childish.....

    Of course it's hard but 6 accepted my request and cancelled this as they arrived at the main road entrance just outside to the race course.

    That's not on.

    Don't get you started on bus drivers! What's that got to do with taxi complaints.

    You want to hijack a mytaxi on the way to a pickup, stand at side of road looking at phone then taxis as though you're looking for a roof sign number, due to the way people don't allow their GPS to lock on, it shows on the driver app as being anywhere in a 1 or 2 mile radius, so driver asks are you such n such, you answer they just left in another taxi and away you go, and yeah I'd say easy enough to happen 6 times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,801 ✭✭✭iamtony


    Don't be so childish.....

    Of course it's hard but 6 accepted my request and cancelled this as they arrived at the main road entrance just outside to the race course.

    That's not on.

    Don't get you started on bus drivers! What's that got to do with taxi complaints.
    this thread was not a general taxi bashing thread, it was a specific complaint and the op was asking for advice.
    I said you were hijacking when you mentioned abuse of bus stops and you said you something about getting elderly and wheelchairs getting off safely so I assumed you were a bus driver.
    Word of advise, don't bother using mytaxi after a nightclub or concert or match breaks. Taxi drivers will not wait for you to show up when there's lots of passengers.
    Its not nessisarily a taxi driver complaint as much as it is a MyTaxi complaint. Usually a driver will accept a booking head to the destination them realise there's loads of people looking for taxi and just cancel your request.
    Too many people think mytaxi is the only way to get a taxi these days, in some instances its easier to go the traditions route. And in general people that can't get a taxi on mytaxi doesn't mean there's a shortage of taxis, try one of the other companies they might not be as busy or use your arm, or a rank even!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,427 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    I can't speak for other drivers but when I was in the trade and on the way to a booked pickup and saw somebody trying to hail and asked me, I'd let them know I was on my way elsewhere but if they were en route then yeah I would. Different story if you were doubling back but if it was handy then hell yeah, why not.

    Some canny base staff at cab firms would do similar with their drivers; if they knew you could pick up a fare en route to another fare then they'd get you to do both.

    Sue me if you want for doing this :)

    I see this works on a prebooked time based call - say a 7:30pm pickup but on the App it’s generally for immediate vicinity so wouldn’t, to my mind, be appropriate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 766 ✭✭✭Mr.Frame


    whiskeyman wrote: »
    I always thought they didn't have to accept the fare until you actually sat in the car?

    Exactly.
    A driver cannot refuse you once you are in the car (unless of course the journey is more than 30km then he/she can , or if the passenger is unruly or drunk


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 901 ✭✭✭usernamegoes


    Mr.Frame wrote: »
    Exactly.
    A driver cannot refuse you once you are in the car (unless of course the journey is more than 30km then he/she can , or if the passenger is unruly or drunk

    Even before you're in the car he can't refuse you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    Even before you're in the car he can't refuse you.



    you can be refused for countless reasons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 901 ✭✭✭usernamegoes


    pgj2015 wrote: »
    you can be refused for countless reasons.

    In the context of the discussion I think it was clear I was talking about refusal based on destination under 30kms.

    Of course they can refuse to take you if your carrying a bloody human head. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    In the context of the discussion I think it was clear I was talking about refusal based on destination under 30kms.

    Of course they can refuse to take you if your carrying a bloody human head. :rolleyes:

    Or if you are "deemed" to be too boisterous, loud, rabble rousing, risk for the driver etc. etc.

    Driver can also refuse you service if you refuse to show that you can pay for the fare, usually interpreted as "cash on the dash"

    My favorite is when people try to negotiate a lower fare, tell them it's on the meter and that I believe they are a flight risk and refuse them.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Credit Checker Moose


    I have never ever been asked for the money up front.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    I have never ever been asked for the money up front.

    Just because you haven't doesn't mean you can't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Credit Checker Moose


    It just seems to be a untish move to refuse people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    It just seems to be a untish move to refuse people.

    Fares and receipts
    Under Part 3 of the Taxi Regulation Act 2013, it is an offence for a taxi or hackney driver to charge you more than the maximum fee shown on the meter or the fee agreed at the start of the journey. If you feel you have been overcharged, you are entitled to make a complaint about the taxi driver.

    It is an offence if you do not pay the agreed fare or maximum fare shown on the taximeter. The driver is entitled to ask you to prove that you can afford to pay the fare before the journey begins. If you cannot prove this, they can refuse to take you on the journey.

    You are entitled to receive a printed receipt at the end of a taxi journey upon payment. The receipt should detail the date, duration of the journey, distance, amount paid and vehicle licence number.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Credit Checker Moose


    How often would you ask to see proof of funds? Or would it be only certain people that would be typically asked?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    How often would you ask to see proof of funds? Or would it be only certain people that would be typically asked?

    Depends what mood I'm in and how long since the last bollix under payed or ran.

    EDIT can also depend on the estimated fare, I wouldn't bother too much on local fares but if I thought it was a higher fare then I'd be wanting to know you could pay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 901 ✭✭✭usernamegoes


    Spook_ie wrote: »
    Or if you are "deemed" to be too boisterous, loud, rabble rousing, risk for the driver etc. etc.

    Driver can also refuse you service if you refuse to show that you can pay for the fare, usually interpreted as "cash on the dash"

    My favorite is when people try to negotiate a lower fare, tell them it's on the meter and that I believe they are a flight risk and refuse them.

    Most people wouldn't have an issue with the legitimate reasons for refusal (although I hate having to get cash just for a taxi when I use card the rest of the night loved the days when I could get a Hailo home, not longer possible as there are many fewer taxis and more passengers. Bring on Uber-style ridesharing)

    People have a problem with drivers who commit criminal offences by unreasonably refusing a fare based on a destination under 30km or use a pretext of a legitimate excuse to for refusal as cover for an illegal refusal like I think you may be implying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    Most people wouldn't have an issue with the legitimate reasons for refusal (although I hate having to get cash just for a taxi when I use card the rest of the night loved the days when I could get a Hailo home, not longer possible as there are many fewer taxis and more passengers. Bring on Uber-style ridesharing)

    People have a problem with drivers who commit criminal offences by unreasonably refusing a fare based on a destination under 30km or use a pretext of a legitimate excuse to for refusal as cover for an illegal refusal like I think you may be implying.

    I'm implying nothing other than saying you need to be very sure of why a driver refuses you before you go off half cocked, remember as soon as you start arguing it gives them the right to refuse you for being threatening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭JustJoe7240


    pgj2015 wrote: »
    how about this situation, taxi driver is in city centre, gets a call to pick up customers in foxrock, sees people on street looking for taxi, asks where they are going to see if its on his way, but they are not going that way. drives away, what harm is done? let this go op, dont be taking food off his table or from his kids mouths. its a tough job being a taxi driver, things like this happen.

    You're obviously a taxi driver? Follow the rules and there'll be no issue....Simple ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 901 ✭✭✭usernamegoes


    Spook_ie wrote: »
    I'm implying nothing other than saying you need to be very sure of why a driver refuses you before you go off half cocked, remember as soon as you start arguing it gives them the right to refuse you for being threatening.

    Well it's pretty straight forward when they ask where you're going then drive off or cancel the trip.

    I'd still report a driver who refused me based on destination and then I told them that was illegal. If they said it was based on threatening behavior as a pretext or to cover up their criminal offence then they might get away with it or they might not. They could get themselves into more hot water.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,467 ✭✭✭vandriver


    Well it's pretty straight forward when they ask where you're going then drive off or cancel the trip.

    I'd still report a driver who refused me based on destination and then I told them that was illegal. If they said it was based on threatening behavior as a pretext or to cover up their criminal offence then they might get away with it or they might not. They could get themselves into more hot water.
    When a taxi driver stops and asks where you are going,only a small part is to ascertain your destination.Mostly its to check you out for drink drugs etc.
    If a taxi driver then suddenly remembers a booking ,it might just be an easy way of leaving without an argument,instead of saying 'Im not taking you ,you're pissed'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 901 ✭✭✭usernamegoes


    vandriver wrote: »
    When a taxi driver stops and asks where you are going,only a small part is to ascertain your destination.Mostly its to check you out for drink drugs etc.
    If a taxi driver then suddenly remembers a booking ,it might just be an easy way of leaving without an argument,instead of saying 'Im not taking you ,you're pissed'

    Well then they're leaving themselves open to admitting to a criminal offence for no real reason. They'd be gone way before a pissed person would have any time to react.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    Well then they're leaving themselves open to admitting to a criminal offence for no real reason. They'd be gone way before a pissed person would have any time to react.



    criminal offence:pac:

    the judge would want to lock them up and throw away the key. id say 5 years in prison should be the punishment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 901 ✭✭✭usernamegoes


    pgj2015 wrote: »
    criminal offence:pac:

    the judge would want to lock them up and throw away the key. id say 5 years in prison should be the punishment.

    Class C fine as provided for in the law.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,237 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    Well then they're leaving themselves open to admitting to a criminal offence for no real reason. They'd be gone way before a pissed person would have any time to react.

    Intoxication is a sufficient reason for a driver to refuse a passenger. A passenger who is at risk of soiling or damaging a cab may be lawfully refused as well.

    I wonder how many complaints come into the NTA stating "I was nissed as a pewt and was refused a taxi..." :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 901 ✭✭✭usernamegoes


    Intoxication is a sufficient reason for a driver to refuse a passenger. A passenger who is at risk of soiling or damaging a cab may be lawfully refused as well.

    I wonder how many complaints come into the NTA stating "I was nissed as a pewt and was refused a taxi..." :)

    I'm not sure what your point is? You'd ask people where they're going and when they told you if you think they're drunk you'd refuse them but the destination is not a factor you'd just ask it see if you think they're drunk?

    You run a very big risk of being fined based on that. I'd consider using a safer way to determine if someone's drunk. Unless you're just pretending the issue is the drunkeness to get away with asking where they're going in which case it's a criminal offence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,467 ✭✭✭vandriver


    I'm not sure what your point is? You'd ask people where they're going and when they told you if you think they're drunk you'd refuse them but the destination is not a factor you'd just ask it see if you think they're drunk?

    You run a very big risk of being fined based on that. I'd consider using a safer way to determine if someone's drunk. Unless you're just pretending the issue is the drunkeness to get away with asking where they're going in which case it's a criminal offence.
    'Are you drunk?'
    -No
    -Well I think you are

    Can you see how this might not go very well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    most complaints will arise from a time when the customer is drunk and the driver is sober. this is why only 2% of complaints ever end in a prosecution. im sure the taxi driver in this case will be ok. :) some people really need to get a life though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 901 ✭✭✭usernamegoes


    pgj2015 wrote: »
    most complaints will arise from a time when the customer is drunk and the driver is sober. this is why only 2% of complaints ever end in a prosecution. im sure the taxi driver in this case will be ok. :) some people really need to get a life though.

    Yeah, I'm not sure what the statistic is but I'm sure as you say it's low and probably as you suggest taxi drivers lie about breaking the law and there's no other evidence so there's not a whole lot that can be done. Maybe the prospective passenger could submit a subject access request under GDPR for dash cam footage but I'm sure you'll suggest that, this footage "goes missing"

    Just glad in my case I had the evidence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    Yeah, I'm not sure what the statistic is but I'm sure as you say it's low and probably as you suggest taxi drivers lie about breaking the law and there's no other evidence so there's not a whole lot that can be done. Maybe the prospective passenger could submit a subject access request under GDPR for dash cam footage but I'm sure you'll suggest that, this footage "goes missing"

    Just glad in my case I had the evidence.




    ya that was real lucky:pac: what would you have done if you didn't, your life would be ruined.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Crack down on taxi standards is badly needed.

    I see so many with defective lighting to tyres daily, such as no brake lights or only one working or in a lot of especially the avensis where the wrong wattage bulb is fitted so they are the same brightness as the 5 watt side lights, dipped beams out and driving with high beams on instead of replacement of the bulbs.

    Some seriously dirty ones and also do come across ones that when they brake the car ends up going slightly sideways.

    Shockingly poor driving standard and will do anything to get that fare.

    Rudeness to other road users is rife.

    Madness what is let go on.

    Dawson Street bus stops day and night are a taxi rank unofficial at that as of course it's a bus stop.
    Gardai are doing nothing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,801 ✭✭✭iamtony


    Crack down on taxi standards is badly needed.

    I see so many with defective lighting to tyres daily, such as no brake lights or only one working or in a lot of especially the avensis where the wrong wattage bulb is fitted so they are the same brightness as the 5 watt side lights, dipped beams out and driving with high beams on instead of replacement of the bulbs.

    Some seriously dirty ones and also do come across ones that when they brake the car ends up going slightly sideways.

    Shockingly poor driving standard and will do anything to get that fare.

    Rudeness to other road users is rife.

    Madness what is let go on.

    Dawson Street bus stops day and night are a taxi rank unofficial at that as of course it's a bus stop.
    Gardai are doing nothing.
    And that's properly regulated garda vetted taxis, imagine how bad it would get with ten thousand unregulated uber drivers roaming the streets, and some think that's a good idea:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    iamtony wrote: »
    And that's properly regulated garda vetted taxis, imagine how bad it would get with ten thousand unregulated uber drivers roaming the streets, and some think that's a good idea:rolleyes:

    Oh I fully agree.

    Some driver's cars are absolutely disgusting.

    Filthy in and out and honestly they have no respect for anyone around them.

    I'm actually shocked the amount of absolute sh1tboxes they are running.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    Crack down on taxi standards is badly needed.

    I see so many with defective lighting to tyres daily, such as no brake lights or only one working or in a lot of especially the avensis where the wrong wattage bulb is fitted so they are the same brightness as the 5 watt side lights, dipped beams out and driving with high beams on instead of replacement of the bulbs.

    Some seriously dirty ones and also do come across ones that when they brake the car ends up going slightly sideways.

    Shockingly poor driving standard and will do anything to get that fare.

    Rudeness to other road users is rife.

    Madness what is let go on.

    Dawson Street bus stops day and night are a taxi rank unofficial at that as of course it's a bus stop.
    Gardai are doing nothing.

    Agreed the standard of taxis in this country is a joke compared to the UK especially which I would say has the highest standard of taxis in any country I've visited especially in London. A large proportion of them think they own the road.

    I've also found that a lot of the time when I've gotten into taxis the standard of driving has been awful with a complete disregard for passenger safety and the speed limit. Gardai dont appear interested in taxis so maybe the NTA as the regulator should put enforcement officers on the street to do checks. I was even in one once with no working seatbelts in the backseat down the country. I generally try to only them as a last resort as I feel safer on buses or trains.

    While running the risk of being accused of being racist I would a majority of the bad expierences have been with non-national drivers which seem to the majority of drivers these days in Dublin at least. I did have a good expierence an Irish one there coming back from the airport a couple of months ago who was a good driver and very friendly and courteous but this seems to the minority.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    Agreed the standard of taxis in this country is a joke compared to the UK especially which I would say has the highest standard of taxis in any country I've visited especially in London. A large proportion of them think they own the road.

    I've also found that a lot of the time when I've gotten into taxis the standard of driving has been awful with a complete disregard for passenger safety and the speed limit. Gardai dont appear interested in taxis so maybe the NTA as the regulator should put enforcement officers on the street to do checks. I was even in one once with no working seatbelts in the backseat down the country. I generally try to only them as a last resort as I feel safer on buses or trains.

    While running the risk of being accused of being racist I would a majority of the bad expierences have been with non-national drivers which seem to the majority of drivers these days in Dublin at least. I did have a good expierence an Irish one there coming back from the airport a couple of months ago who was a good driver and very friendly and courteous but this seems to the minority.

    I've been in a number over the years and it's a mixed bag, some are dead sound, chat away then some are just terrible.

    I think I've been lucky enough when in them I've got nearly all good ones, now saying that I may only be in a taxi max 5 or 6 times in a year as we haven't been out much the last few years.

    My experience is mostly on the driving side and only that I'm trained very well and take pride in being safe while at work and not I come across some amount of absolute gobsheens


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,237 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    I'm not sure what your point is? You'd ask people where they're going and when they told you if you think they're drunk you'd refuse them but the destination is not a factor you'd just ask it see if you think they're drunk?

    Works fine for door staff, barmen, Gards, retail staff.....
    You run a very big risk of being fined based on that. I'd consider using a safer way to determine if someone's drunk. Unless you're just pretending the issue is the drunkeness to get away with asking where they're going in which case it's a criminal offence.

    I don't drive anymore so it's no personal worry of mine. A family member of mine and a few friends still work in the trade, and truth be told, they still find it works for them; if you don't know where you live or can't get into the cab or remember your name then yeah, you may be intoxicated :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,277 ✭✭✭poisonated


    One could say taxi drivers make up their own rules.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 901 ✭✭✭usernamegoes


    Works fine for door staff, barmen, Gards, retail staff.....



    I don't drive anymore so it's no personal worry of mine. A family member of mine and a few friends still work in the trade, and truth be told, they still find it works for them; if you don't know where you live or can't get into the cab or remember your name then yeah, you may be intoxicated :)

    Maybe it's just me, but in my job I follow try to follow the rules and avoid breaking the law.

    The door man comparison is interesting, I wonder how it would work if a door man asked people if they were Irish before they went in and when he refuses them says he was just asking it to see if they were drunk. Would he be annoyed when he's in trouble with he boss for them getting fined under the Equality Act.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,237 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    Maybe it's just me, but in my job I follow try to follow the rules and avoid breaking the law.

    Good for you. Aren't you the best?
    The door man comparison is interesting, I wonder how it would work if a door man asked people if they were Irish before they went in and when he refuses them says he was just asking it to see if they were drunk. Would he be annoyed when he's in trouble with he boss for them getting fined under the Equality Act.

    Maybe you should ask sidetracking and irrelevant point in a Doorman/PSA Complaint thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 706 ✭✭✭the boss of me


    poisonated wrote: »
    One could say taxi drivers make up their own rules.

    Rules made up by people in cushy office jobs who've never driven a taxi.
    I've often refused people who've flagged me down if I didn't want to go their way and would do it again. If it was near knocking off time I'd pull up and ask where they were going. If it didn't suit I'd politely explain that I had a booking shortly. Most people are sound enough and I've never had a negative response.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 901 ✭✭✭usernamegoes


    Rules made up by people in cushy office jobs who've never driven a taxi.
    I've often refused people who've flagged me down if I didn't want to go their way and would do it again. If it was near knocking off time I'd pull up and ask where they were going. If it didn't suit I'd politely explain that I had a booking shortly. Most people are sound enough and I've never had a negative response.

    Presumably you'd get rid of the laws against Uber-style ridesharing that were made up by people in cushy office jobs?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 706 ✭✭✭the boss of me


    Presumably you'd get rid of the laws against Uber-style ridesharing that were made up by people in cushy office jobs?

    Uber is more than welcome to operate in Ireland as long as they comply with local legislation. Afaik they are or were operating in Dublin.
    Drivers always had to be Garda vetted and cars had to be passed out (be they taxi or hackney) in order to carry pax for hire and reward. Can't see any reason to change that.
    Anyway that's a whole different thread and has been done to death on boards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 901 ✭✭✭usernamegoes


    Uber is more than welcome to operate in Ireland as long as they comply with local legislation. Afaik they are or were operating in Dublin.
    Drivers always had to be Garda vetted and cars had to be passed out (be they taxi or hackney) in order to carry pax for hire and reward. Can't see any reason to change that.
    Anyway that's a whole different thread and has been done to death on boards.

    As long as they follow the rules. Indeed. Good man yourself. Rules only apply to other people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,277 ✭✭✭poisonated


    As long as they follow the rules. Indeed. Good man yourself. Rules only apply to other people.

    Agreed.


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