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Handwriting decipher thread *must post link to full page*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,777 ✭✭✭BowWow


    chewed wrote: »
    hi, can you please have a look at this birth record for William Carey on the 4th row...

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1869/03390/2242990.pdf

    I wanted to find out the mother's (Mary Carey) maiden name. It looks like Clurrd????


    I'd think "Clune".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,415 ✭✭✭chewed


    BowWow wrote:
    I'd think "Clune".


    Great. Thanks. I thought the last letter was a d.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13 my_ancestors


    https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634139#page/164/mode/1up

    Anybody have any idea what the word in the column after sponsors name for the baptism record of Ellen Dunphy (parents John Dunphy Margaret McDonald) second row. The word looks like "mild" ??

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 683 ✭✭✭KildareFan


    Could be Michl ... but that doesn't make much sense.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 422 ✭✭Vetch


    Milit visible - Militia?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,777 ✭✭✭BowWow


    Column heading is "Remarks".

    I'd guess "Military"


  • Registered Users Posts: 13 my_ancestors


    Thanks all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,364 ✭✭✭campo


    Anyone any clue on this one, it is my great great grandfather Patrick Nash (11 up from bottom)

    Looks like he was charged for obstruction but what I am interested in is the sentence, I am thinking it is 7 days of hard labour also not sure what the discharged note is.

    https://imgur.com/a/KLevM9p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,681 ✭✭✭✭Deja Boo


    7 days imprt (imprisonment) or pay fine 5/8/6 costs ? ........ paid fine of 025 (or paid fine costs) ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,364 ✭✭✭campo


    Deja Boo wrote: »
    7 days imprt (imprisonment) or pay fine 5/8/6 costs ? ........ paid fine of 025 (or paid fine costs) ?

    Ah that's what it was ya we would never have been a hard labour type family so paying the fine sounds more likely :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 324 ✭✭kildarejohn


    campo wrote: »
    Anyone any clue on this one, it is my great great grandfather Patrick Nash (11 up from bottom)

    Looks like he was charged for obstruction but what I am interested in is the sentence, I am thinking it is 7 days of hard labour also not sure what the discharged note is.

    https://imgur.com/a/KLevM9p

    Agree with previous poster re fine & costs. But what I cant make out is what he was obstructing - looks like "obstructing papers"???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,364 ✭✭✭campo


    Agree with previous poster re fine & costs. But what I cant make out is what he was obstructing - looks like "obstructing papers"???

    Yes that is what I thought, my great grans brother was a newsagent so not sure if it was a family business or not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,943 ✭✭✭tabbey


    campo wrote: »
    Yes that is what I thought, my great grans brother was a newsagent so not sure if it was a family business or not.

    The usual offence is obstructing the pavement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,364 ✭✭✭campo


    This is a tough one but it is from my great grandfather when he signed up to the Irish Army in 1922, I can make out just about everything except for his next of kin (father) name at the very end, seems, any help be appreciated as at a road block with this side of the family.

    https://imgur.com/a/3f6V9sA


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 422 ✭✭Vetch


    Carroll Michl is the name in the right hand box.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,364 ✭✭✭campo


    Vetch wrote: »
    Carroll Michl is the name in the right hand box.

    Thank you so much, that is a big help


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,264 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    The address under the name is the same as the earlier one Knockbawn Brack (?), Galbally, Limerick.


  • Registered Users Posts: 787 ✭✭✭cnoc


    Current name of a town land in Galbally is Knockanebrack.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭crossman47


    I would appreciate thoughts on no. 78 in the attached https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1917/05199/4436461.pdf

    I am almost certain (based on location and person present at death) that it is my ancestor but the age is stumping me. It appears to be 61 but that could not be right. I know ages in Censuses, etc can be way off but , given her children whom I know about, an age of 81 would be more realistic. Any views?


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,422 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    I would definitely read that as 61.

    As regards her age, one of my ancestors was 99 when she died in 1930 but the civil record states she was only 80 so these things do happen occasionally.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Registered Users Posts: 209 ✭✭SophieLockhart


    It's not hugely surprising. My g-grandmother died at 82 or 66 depending on whether you believe the marriage or death cert.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭crossman47


    I agree its not surprising. I have an ancestor who aged 18 years in the ten years between Censuses. That was often before and after marriage! The one I quoted just seemed so extreme as to cast doubt on whether I had the right person.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,672 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    Guys, please keep this thread for just deciphering the handwriting. By all means, open a new thread to discuss the ages.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 172 ✭✭clashburke


    Can anyone make a guess at the addresses on no15 between Thomas Byrne and Sarah Doyle?


    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1866/11544/8246259.pdf


    Thanks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    clashburke wrote: »
    Can anyone make a guess at the addresses on no15 between Thomas Byrne and Sarah Doyle?


    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1866/11544/8246259.pdf


    Thanks


    Sarah Doyle is from Ballymurthagh maybe.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 172 ✭✭clashburke


    Yes that was what I thought aswell


    thanks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    clashburke wrote: »
    Yes that was what I thought aswell


    thanks
    did you figure out the other one?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 172 ✭✭clashburke


    Not yet.


    Cronebane is the name connected around there, but it looks more like Cormoria


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    clashburke wrote: »
    Not yet.


    Cronebane is the name connected around there, but it looks more like Cormoria


    needs a local eye.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 172 ✭✭clashburke


    I am local or just about.

    I live about 5 miles away, and do be around there quite a bit. I was hoping my eyes are gone square and its a simple one :pac:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 422 ✭✭Vetch


    There are townlands called Connary Upper and Lower nearby. Would guess this is a misspelling. It looks like Connorree.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 172 ✭✭clashburke


    It does look like ee instead of an A when its pointed out. Ill go with that for now.


    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,364 ✭✭✭campo


    Hey all,

    Looking for some help identifying my 5th great grandmother name.

    This is her marriage cert to James Sutton but cannot figure out if her surname is

    Hore
    Flore
    Hare

    Any help would be appreciated

    by03qbH.png


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 77,022 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    Hove? Or Hore. Look at the top of the snippet, but the Rs are slighty different in the rest of the image. Any chance of seeing the full page, please?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,672 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    I'd say Hore - but please note we need to see the whole page. Link to it please.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,364 ✭✭✭campo


    pinkypinky wrote: »
    I'd say Hore - but please note we need to see the whole page. Link to it please.

    This is everything I have if this helps

    pNJ7W4z.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,777 ✭✭✭BowWow


    campo wrote: »
    This is everything I have if this helps

    pNJ7W4z.png

    I'd say Ann Hore.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 422 ✭✭Vetch


    Another vote for Hore.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,672 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    The photo is quite blurry.

    Where did you get it?

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,345 ✭✭✭TheW1zard


    I think its Hove.
    Look at November, there's hardly any loop on the E off the V.
    Everywhere else there is a loop on an E.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,364 ✭✭✭campo


    Sorry that image was poor this one should be better, and appreciate all help

    ( I also think it is but only because that is what Ancestry suggest it is and I have never heard of surname Flore )

    4o3VgNh.png


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,264 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    Yes, that last one would seal it as Hore for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,364 ✭✭✭campo


    Thanks Y'all I know in general no chat here but just wanted to say this thread has been super helpful to be over past couple of weeks.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,672 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    I still think Hore. The name above Solomon Hicks - same H.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,672 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    Can anyone help with the Latin comment on the 3/1/1858 marriage of James Yore and Anne Barry here in St Andrews please?

    https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633489#page/4/mode/1up

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 422 ✭✭Vetch


    Anna conversa fuit ad veriam fidem - Anne converted to the true faith


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,672 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    Oh that is fascinating!

    There's a registry office marriage for this couple 6 weeks earlier. I had it figured for her as the Catholic and him as the COI - for lots of reasons.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,672 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    Following on from my last one: looks like an adult baptism for the James Yore who married in the above.

    https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633591#page/147/mode/1up

    Can anyone make out the comment please?
    I think I can read it but don't want to bias other opinions.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 236 ✭✭ath262


    A convert ... about 19 years back[?] ... baptised in P..ts.. church ..

    that's about as much I can make out so far


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,777 ✭✭✭BowWow


    "A convert from about 19 years back, & thou? baptised in Scots Church...."

    Best I can do.


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