The Virgin Media Television thread

iora_rua · 30-08-2018 9:25am

lertsnim wrote: »

Wow. What a hideous looking set.

The grey, mottled concrete wall look on the front of the newsdesk . . . :eek:

irishfeen · 30-08-2018 9:28am

The size of the new DOG’s are ridiculous..

kazoo106 · 30-08-2018 9:42am

Managed to see it before Clermont Carn went off air - they probably need to be that size in order to make them out on Saorview due to the crap resolution !

Digifriendly · 30-08-2018 10:12am

Clermont Carn off air here too. Any word how long it will be off for?

dulpit · 30-08-2018 10:17am

I think what makes the DOG on VM1 so bad is that it is so opaque. The VM2 one is much more transparent.

Still irks me that we have DOGs on screen the whole time anyway, would be better if they disappeared shortly after show starts (I think Sky Atlantic does this?)

JDxtra · 30-08-2018 10:27am

The whole branding is way off. Either they did not listen to expert advice, or ignored it. Shoehorning the Virgin Media logo into the logo for the TV channels is ridiculous. Then actually plastering the whole thing on screen permanently is even more ridiculous. But hey, we're not dealing with broadcast professionals here so no surprise.

lertsnim · 30-08-2018 11:06am

The TV3 DOG was fine and now there's these gawdy looking things. I'm not surprised though. Some genius probably thought bigger to promote the brand. Well done :rolleyes:

EdgeCase · 30-08-2018 11:15am

Wow that DOG is awful. I don't think I'll be able to watch TV3 anymore with that.

I mean we all watch TV on digital platforms, it's not like we don't know what channel we are watching! It's on the EPG now and next banner.

The One and Three logos are particularly awful.

The brand is a terrible mouthful too "Virgin Media One" doesn't exactly roll off the tongue.

Even Virgin One would be better but I think they only have TM on "Virgin Media".

Also if Liberty does one of its very frequent rebrands as Zigglywiggly or something, the whole TV3 rebrand will have to be done again.

pad199207 · 30-08-2018 11:22am

The Irish don’t like change. I don’t think they are going to take to this one either.

Look at the demise of UTV Ireland. Although that was a separate channel altogether, VM have the benefit of hanging on to all the rights and all of TV3 content.

EdgeCase · 30-08-2018 11:25am

One of my older relatives was saying that her TV3 wasn't working and some English channel was on instead and asking if I could retune her TV.

icdg · 30-08-2018 11:31am

JDxtra wrote: »

Shoehorning the Virgin Media logo into the logo for the TV channels is ridiculous.

That is the whole point of the rebrand, to cross promote the Virgin Media cable TV/Broadband service.

Talking of which, I’ve renamed the thread to reflect the new branding. That’s not a license to bring up issues with the cable TV service here - they stay in the cable forum.

irishfeen · 30-08-2018 11:44am

You would wonder what is the actual point of having 3 entertainment channels under the one broadcaster when they don't have distinct differences in each.. they all just blend in together to become mediocre.

dulpit · 30-08-2018 12:19pm

irishfeen wrote: »

You would wonder what is the actual point of having 3 entertainment channels under the one broadcaster when they don't have distinct differences in each.. they all just blend in together to become mediocre.

True. As much as ITV is a pile of manure, they have done a very good job of having clear distinctions between ITV1, 2, 3 and 4. Not so here.

micks_address · 30-08-2018 12:20pm

The onscreen logo is ridiculous in size

MikeyTaylor · 30-08-2018 12:21pm

Deleted User wrote: »

How the hell do Virgin keep 3 channels going with all this old repeated crap filler programming. There was an episode of The Cube on this evening and this kid was asked what he wanted to get if his mum won aload of dosh. His answer: a PS3!!

I agree but someone must enjoy watching it.

lertsnim · 30-08-2018 12:26pm

I recall when UTV Ireland started showing up to date episodes of Ant and Dec Takeaway programme TV3 put on repeats from the previous year at the same time and more people watched the repeat. A lot of viewers have no idea what they are looking at.

irishfeen · 30-08-2018 12:27pm

lertsnim wrote: »

I recall when UTV Ireland started showing up to date episodes of Ant and Dec Takeaway programme TV3 put on repeats from the previous year at the same time and more people watched the repeat. A lot of viewers have no idea what they are looking at.

To be fair being higher on the EPG probably had an awful lot to do with that..

lertsnim · 30-08-2018 12:35pm

That proves my point.

JDxtra · 30-08-2018 1:23pm

icdg wrote: »

That is the whole point of the rebrand, to cross promote the Virgin Media cable TV/Broadband service.

I can understand their point, but it's a logo in a logo. There is no defending the fact that it is a bad design.

Even the domain name is crazy - virginmediatelevision.ie. That's 24 characters!

Digifriendly · 30-08-2018 1:29pm

Clermont Carn back on air but with same old tosh on 3 channels that have been rebranded.

mackersdublin · 30-08-2018 1:30pm

The following EPG changes happened this morning

Saorview:
3 Virgin Media 1
5 Virgin Media 2
6 Virgin Media 3

Sky:
103 Virgin One - HD swap with 803 with HD pack
105 Virgin Two - HD swap with 805 with HD pack
116 Virgin Three
203 Virgin One+1
803 Virgin One HD
805 Virgin Two HD

Virgin Media:
103 Virgin Media One - HD version on Horizon
105 Virgin Media Two - HD version on Horizon
106 Virgin Media Three - HD version on Horizon
110 Virgin Media One +1
148 Virgin Media Three HD
149 Virgin Media Two HD
150 Virgin Media One HD

Surprised Saorview didn't label the full name, they might have character limitations like on Sky

mackersdublin · 30-08-2018 1:51pm

I don't have access to eir Vision or Vodafone TV so don't know what their changes were

Worth noting a Saorview retune may be needed on the cheaper branded TVs as they don't seem to automatically update name changes unfortunately

MikeyTaylor · 30-08-2018 2:52pm

As much as people will miss the TV3 branding, I miss Channel 6 even more. That channel was just so special to me, particularly Nightshift.

lgs 4 · 30-08-2018 4:24pm

Virgin didn't have to look too far for inspiration for the on-screen logos ...no imagination.

xtal191 · 30-08-2018 4:56pm

Wont these ridiculous logos cause burn-in on some TVs oled, plasma etc?

icdg · 30-08-2018 5:17pm

lgs 4 wrote: »

Virgin didn't have to look too far for inspiration for the on-screen logos ...no imagination.

That last one isn’t an actual BBC Three logo? Or did they have one I forgot about?

OldMrBrennan83 · 30-08-2018 5:19pm

They'd be better putting the logos on the Horizon EPG. Nothing there only Virgin Med.... all three channels.

zeebre12 · 30-08-2018 5:19pm

lertsnim wrote: »

I recall when UTV Ireland started showing up to date episodes of Ant and Dec Takeaway programme TV3 put on repeats from the previous year at the same time and more people watched the repeat. A lot of viewers have no idea what they are looking at.

There thing is now I just presume that they are all repeats. Is Catchphrase on Sunday a repeat or new? The worst thing is during ad breaks the actually promote their repeats of repeats. You don't know what's new or not. What actually is shown from ITV that's actually new to TV3 other than the live shows? On Saorview it says 'New' on the EPG for Judge Judy, is this episode new to Virgin Media 1? It wouldn't surprise me if they have it labelled as a new episode for VM1 (it was already on TV3)

mikeym · 30-08-2018 7:10pm

xtal191 wrote: »

Wont these ridiculous logos cause burn-in on some TVs oled, plasma etc?

All Three Logos look hideous but compared to the old Utv Ireland Dog its not as bright.

God that Utv Ireland Dog was burnt onto my plasma tv months after it was sold to Virgin.

Tigerandahalf · 30-08-2018 7:15pm

The logos are up on the saorview connect box as well.
Is it me or is the picture quality improved?

Delta2113 · 30-08-2018 7:31pm

Patww79 wrote: »

They'd be better putting the logos on the Horizon EPG. Nothing there only Virgin Med.... all three channels.

Probably show up on your box tomorrow.

irishfeen · 30-08-2018 7:35pm

Interesting to see that on Sky Go they are using a HD feed for streaming on Virgin Three.. where as it’s SD on sky itself.

deezell · 30-08-2018 7:52pm

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

The logos are up on the saorview connect box as well.
Is it me or is the picture quality improved?

It must be you, or wishful thinking. Just looked at the Heathrow prog on VM3. The picture quality is hideous. It's worse than ever, as the source is obviously HD downscaled to sub SD then displayed on a UHD set. So bad I had to switch off.

stephend2000 · 30-08-2018 8:03pm

irishfeen wrote: »

Interesting to see that on Sky Go they are using a HD feed for streaming on Virgin Three.. where as it’s SD on sky itself.

Yes it looks a hell of a lot better than what’s on Sky or Saorview. Although the HD tag makes the DOG even bigger! Interestingly, VM2 is not available in HD on my Sky go. It’s only accessible in SD on channel 805, miles away from its usual position

icdg · 30-08-2018 8:06pm

I’m not sure if it’s been said already, but the new news theme is seriously channelling Crimewatch UK

lertsnim · 30-08-2018 8:13pm

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

Is it me or is the picture quality improved?

Definitely you.

Elmo · 30-08-2018 8:35pm

EdgeCase wrote: »

One of my older relatives was saying that her TV3 wasn't working and some English channel was on instead and asking if I could retune her TV.

It is a strange re-brand. While I don't think this will really be problematic for Virgin Media one, I think Virgin Media TWO and THREE will have to be careful as they really are just repeats of English channels, the Identity looks like an English Opt-Out.

The News programmes are very generic, in terms of graphics.

The DOGs/BUGs are purely their for the Virgin Media logo, Why they didn't opt to have the logo wrap around the numbers 1, 2 and 3, example below has words but you get what I mean. Oddly they have logos without the words Virgin Media which would suit!

30-08-2018 8:36pm

kazoo106 wrote: »

Managed to see it before Clermont Carn went off air - they probably need to be that size in order to make them out on Saorview due to the crap resolution !

Wouldn't be surprised. Still virtually impossible to make out the 'Virgin Media' lettering in the DOG. Designed for HD me thinks. SD Saorview really is an appalling abomination thats inflicted on us.

icdg · 30-08-2018 8:38pm

They don’t own the Virgin Media brand and license it from Richard Branson. Seemingly because of this, and because of the fact that the Virgin brand is licensed to a variety of third parties and for a variety of goods and services, there are limitations on what they can do with the brand. Apparently they can’t just use it on it’s own, it has to be followed with “Media”, “Mobile” or “TV”.

Confusing things then, is that the cable TV package is “Virgin TV” but the broadcaster is “Virgin Media Television”.

Elmo · 30-08-2018 8:43pm

lgs 4 wrote: »

Virgin didn't have to look too far for inspiration for the on-screen logos ...no imagination.

I see that and give you

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Mickey Mike · 30-08-2018 9:50pm

OK now we have the switch over to Virgin Media TV, can we please have at least an upscaled picture quality on Saorview, surely to God it won't cost too much to upgrade from 544 by 576i up to 720 by 576i. It is still SD. It would make a big difference and worth while. Who do we even ask?

lgs 4 · 30-08-2018 10:46pm

Elmo wrote: »

It is a strange re-brand. While I don't think this will really be problematic for Virgin Media one, I think Virgin Media TWO and THREE will have to be careful as they really are just repeats of English channels, the Identity looks like an English Opt-Out.

The News programmes are very generic, in terms of graphics.

The DOGs/BUGs are purely their for the Virgin Media logo, Why they didn't opt to have the logo wrap around the numbers 1, 2 and 3, example below has words but you get what I mean. Oddly they have logos without the words Virgin Media which would suit!

The first on-screen logo was for Virgin was the Virgin tv channel some years back in the UK.

This would be a good logo

Schwanz · 30-08-2018 11:25pm

Ident police will be having a field day with the size of them badboys on the screen

Round Cable · 30-08-2018 11:55pm

To quote Helen Lovejoy "Won't somebody please think of the OLEDs?"

kooga · 31-08-2018 9:46am

mackersdublin wrote: »

I don't have access to eir Vision or Vodafone TV so don't know what their changes were

Worth noting a Saorview retune may be needed on the cheaper branded TVs as they don't seem to automatically update name changes unfortunately

on evision just a straight channel name swap

thesultan · 31-08-2018 10:33am

Nice studio for Ireland am

dulpit · 31-08-2018 10:44am

The DOG for their news last night was smaller and down in bottom left. Worked better.

Maz2016 · 31-08-2018 1:49pm

dulpit wrote: »

The DOG for their news last night was smaller and down in bottom left. Worked better.

Agree, worked much better. Those displays are just wrong. Have some of the programmes onVM2/3 (be3/3e) swapped around ? The 10 pm news used be on the old be3 but now it’s on the old 3e.

Dr. Bre · 31-08-2018 1:51pm

What number is virgin sport ? I can’t seem to find it!

Elmo · 31-08-2018 1:53pm

Dr. Bre wrote: »

What number is virgin sport ? I can’t seem to find it!

Launches in mid-September

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