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Wearing a white Poppy

  • 27-09-2020 10:26am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,621 ✭✭✭


    I for one think this is a good compromise.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,158 ✭✭✭frag420


    Treppen wrote: »
    I for one think this is a good compromise.

    Compromise on what?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,426 ✭✭✭KaneToad


    Treppen wrote: »
    I for one think this is a good compromise.

    I for one think it has nothing to do with Ireland.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,485 ✭✭✭KevRossi


    Treppen wrote: »
    I for one think this is a good compromise.

    It’s a compromise to this new thinking in the UK that it seems to be obligatory to wear one.

    The decision to not wear either poppy should also be respected.


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,585 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    Can I just eat a packet of poppets instead?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,292 ✭✭✭✭ctrl-alt-delete


    Black poppies matter


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,698 ✭✭✭Feisar


    KevRossi wrote: »
    It’s a compromise to this new thinking in the UK that it seems to be obligatory to wear one.

    The decision to not wear either poppy should also be respected.

    It’s not though. I do be over a fair bit for work and while lots wear them plenty don’t

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 326 ✭✭dzsfah2xoynme9


    Just staple an onion to your coat. Twill be grand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,520 ✭✭✭An Ri rua


    What does a white poppy in September signify? That you're free to start incoherent threads and damn the consequences?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,515 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Wearing no form of advertising is a good option.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,485 ✭✭✭KevRossi


    Feisar wrote: »
    It’s not though. I do be over a fair bit for work and while lots wear them plenty don’t

    Try appearing on TV without one. Look at the shouting match around some players refusing to have one on their match shirts. I’m also aware of a couple of offices where people are ‘encouraged’ (ordered) to wear them.

    It’s a very new fad, very few people wore them 20 years ago.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,860 ✭✭✭Mrsmum


    What is the point of the poppy symbol if people feel forced to wear some colour of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,946 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    KevRossi wrote: »
    Try appearing on TV without one. Look at the shouting match around some players refusing to have one on their match shirts. I’m also aware of a couple of offices where people are ‘encouraged’ (ordered) to wear them.

    It’s a very new fad, very few people wore them 20 years ago.

    Think that's only a problem in Britain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,645 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Is it that time of the year already?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,324 ✭✭✭JustAThought


    Is it that time of the year already?

    Whatever about the red poppy and all the politics and shennanigans that goes with that -
    especially here in Ireland - its a pity it cannot be left as a symbol of the forst two
    world wars and hs now been appropriated to include ‘verterns’ of the ‘war’ in Iraq and Afghanistan. Really compromising for the symbol and morally dubious.


    Wasn’t white in world war iconography for Britan a sign for a coward - very perplexing message adding white to the poppy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,409 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    I wear one , with a swastika background












    I'm joking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,946 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    Whatever about the red poppy and all the politics and shennanigans that goes with that -
    especially here in Ireland - its a pity it cannot be left as a symbol of the forst two
    world wars and hs now been appropriated to include ‘verterns’ of the ‘war’ in Iraq and Afghanistan. Really compromising for the symbol and morally dubious.


    Wasn’t white in world war iconography for Britan a sign for a coward - very perplexing message adding white to the poppy.

    So what if it was left as a symbol of WWI AND WWII?

    An insult to those who lived under British occupation.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    Treppen wrote: »
    I for one think this is a good compromise.

    Couldn't even wait for mid October :cool:

    Poppies (the wearing of) is at least a month away). This thread will be dead & forgotten about by the time the 'for & against' Poppy brigades appear to wage war against each other, although I see the opening salvos have been fired :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,645 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Couldn't even wait for mid October :cool:

    Poppies (the wearing of) is at least a month away). This thread will be dead & forgotten about by the time the 'for & against' Poppy brigades appear to wage war against each other, although I see the opening salvos have been fired :)

    T'is a yearly boards tradition.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    ....... premature.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,053 ✭✭✭Tuco88


    A lump of turf is more suited.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,858 ✭✭✭Church on Tuesday


    Ah, the annual Poppy thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭deise08


    I think of anyone would like to wear a poppy, maybe they might choose the purple poppy.
    For all the animal heroes.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭bobbyy gee


    The Royal British Legion's Poppy Appeal caused some controversy, with some—including British Army veterans—who argued that the symbol was being used excessively to marshal support for British military campaigns and that public figures were pressured to wear the poppies.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remembrance_poppy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    KevRossi wrote: »
    Try appearing on TV without one. Look at the shouting match around some players refusing to have one on their match shirts. I’m also aware of a couple of offices where people are ‘encouraged’ (ordered) to wear them.

    It’s a very new fad, very few people wore them 20 years ago.

    No it isn't; it was always de rigueur from my long ago UK childhood onwards …

    and many Irish men served in the War.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,671 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    Treppen wrote: »
    I for one think this is a good compromise.

    F*ck off with your poppy talk

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Whatever about the red poppy and all the politics and shennanigans that goes with that -
    especially here in Ireland - its a pity it cannot be left as a symbol of the forst two
    world wars and hs now been appropriated to include ‘verterns’ of the ‘war’ in Iraq and Afghanistan. Really compromising for the symbol and morally dubious.


    Wasn’t white in world war iconography for Britan a sign for a coward - very perplexing message adding white to the poppy.

    Disagree. The remembering has been now given to all who died in all wars. There is no morality in death in war, and the white is simply for peace which the entire world aches for. Absence of war. Absence of blood.

    Many of my generation lost close relatives in World War 2. The Memorial Services were deeply meaningful and moving.. Nationalism played a small role.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,031 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    Graces7 wrote: »
    No it isn't; it was always de rigueur from my long ago UK childhood onwards …

    and many Irish men served in the War.

    Very few people have any issues with the Irish who died in the world wars. What people have an issue with is the Red poppy commemorates all UK soldiers from all their wars and they weren't the good guys in the majority of them.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,733 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach


    Might I wearing an item in support of the The Organisation of National Ex-Servicemen and Women (former Irish soldiers). This is a chariatable organisation that supports service personal who have fallen on hard times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,457 ✭✭✭✭Kylta


    Do the make heroin out of poppies?
    If so maybe it would be safe wearing one around dublin


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,865 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    Should we do a pool this year? How many death threats will James McClean get from Engerlish men in their 50's/60's with a whiff of Millwall and EDL off them?


  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Treppen wrote: »
    I for one think this is a good compromise.

    This is Ireland. No compromise, no poppy.


  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Graces7 wrote: »
    No it isn't; it was always de rigueur from my long ago UK childhood onwards …

    and many Irish men served in the War.

    Each and every one of them a disgrace.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭bobbyy gee


    What about the easter lily

    The Easter Lily (Irish: Lile na Cásca) is a badge in the shape of a calla lily flower, worn at Easter by Irish republicans as symbol of remembrance for Irish republican combatants who died during or were executed after the 1916 Easter Rising.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭bobbyy gee


    Graces7 wrote: »
    Disagree. The remembering has been now given to all who died in all wars. There is no morality in death in war, and the white is simply for peace which the entire world aches for. Absence of war. Absence of blood.

    Many of my generation lost close relatives in World War 2. The Memorial Services were deeply meaningful and moving.. Nationalism played a small role.
    white would mean coward in the old days


  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    bobbyy gee wrote: »
    What about the easter lily

    The Easter Lily (Irish: Lile na Cásca) is a badge in the shape of a calla lily flower, worn at Easter by Irish republicans as symbol of remembrance for Irish republican combatants who died during or were executed after the 1916 Easter Rising.

    Definitely. Such a shame more don’t, but it’s just a reflection on modern life and what we’ve become.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,943 ✭✭✭indioblack


    Del2005 wrote: »
    Very few people have any issues with the Irish who died in the world wars. What people have an issue with is the Red poppy commemorates all UK soldiers from all their wars and they weren't the good guys in the majority of them.
    The empire was still in being during both wars. It could be argued that those who served in the military were, indirectly, helping to maintain that system.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,409 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    bobbyy gee wrote: »
    What about the easter lily

    The Easter Lily (Irish: Lile na Cásca) is a badge in the shape of a calla lily flower, worn at Easter by Irish republicans as symbol of remembrance for Irish republican combatants who died during or were executed after the 1916 Easter Rising.

    What was the Easter Rising ? And why was it at quarter past 7 ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,645 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    This is Ireland. No compromise, no poppy.

    You don't really get a choice in that.


  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You don't really get a choice in that.

    On a personal level I do as I won’t tolerate anyone sporting one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,645 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    On a personal level I do as I won’t tolerate anyone sporting one.

    You see someone wearing one in a shop or on the Street, what are you going to do about it?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,621 ✭✭✭Treppen


    On a personal level I do as I won’t tolerate anyone sporting one.

    When if it's not red?


  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You see someone wearing one in a shop or on the Street, what are you going to do about it?

    Remove it. They have no place in Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,645 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Remove it. They have no place in Ireland.

    Yeah right :pac:

    You would physically assault someone on the street for wearing a poppy?

    Love you internet tough guys :pac:


  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yeah right :pac:

    You would physically assault someone on the street for wearing a poppy?

    Love you internet tough guys :pac:

    OK, whatever.

    They’re a filthy insulting thing to wear in this state so (whatever you’re prissily calling assault) would be warranted. The equivalent to handing out swastika badges in England.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,645 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    OK, whatever.

    They’re a filthy insulting thing to wear in this state so (whatever you’re prissily calling assault) would be warranted. The equivalent to handing out swastika badges in England.

    I wore one every year in Ireland for over 30 years and never a word was said to me. You are definitely in the minority. Not a chance you would touch anyone, you might give them a dirty look or tut tut in disgust but not a chance would you approach anyone and try remove it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,987 ✭✭✭0ph0rce0


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  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I wore one every year in Ireland for over 30 years and never a word was said to me. You are definitely in the minority. Not a chance you would touch anyone, you might give them a dirty look or tut tut in disgust but not a chance would you approach anyone and try remove it.

    Grand so. You’re absolute scum for wearing one in this country, it’s a shame on people here that you were let.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,125 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Treppen wrote: »
    I for one think this is a good compromise.

    It still has the nasty associations of the normal poppy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,645 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Grand so. You’re absolute scum for wearing one in this country, it’s a shame on people here that you were let.

    Thats your opinion, people like my grandfathers fought/got injured and died in wars so that people like you could have this opinion.

    I have always worn one, I will always wear one and if people like you ever have an issue with that then please feel free to approach me about it, I know you never will but the options are always there.


  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Thats your opinion, people like my grandfathers fought/got injured and died in wars so that people like you could have this opinion.

    I have always worn one, I will always wear one and if people like you ever have an issue with that then please feel free to approach me about it, I know you never will but the options are always there.

    Then go to wherever they fought for and wear the sign of the butcher. Don’t sport it around one of your victims.


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