Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Hi all! We have been experiencing an issue on site where threads have been missing the latest postings. The platform host Vanilla are working on this issue. A workaround that has been used by some is to navigate back from 1 to 10+ pages to re-sync the thread and this will then show the latest posts. Thanks, Mike.
Hi there,
There is an issue with role permissions that is being worked on at the moment.
If you are having trouble with access or permissions on regional forums please post here to get access: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058365403/you-do-not-have-permission-for-that#latest

Super Typhoon Hagibis threatens Japan

  • 07-10-2019 6:56pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭


    Tropical Depression 20W has has rapidly intensified overnight into a 140-knot super typhoon Hagibis as it passed to the east of the Northern Mariana Islands. It's moving westwards and is about to pass near to Saipan and will turn north and head directily towards the Japanese mainland by the weekend. The question is will it affect the Ireland v Samoa game in Fukuoka, on the southwestern island of Kyushu.

    The latest forecast track has it strengthening further overnight tonight before gradually starting to weaken over the next few days as it becomes affected by the cooler waters and stronger windshear.

    wp202019.19100706.gif

    20191007.0852.f17.x.ir1km_bw.20WHAGIBIS.130kts-930mb-155N-1482E.072pc.jpg


«13

Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    Forecast track in relation to Fukuoka. That landfall point is around 700 knm from Fukuoka.

    492532.png


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,151 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    Mightn't do any harm if it stalled a bit and headed straight for Yokohama on Sunday. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,426 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    DOCARCH wrote: »
    Mightn't do any harm if it stalled a bit and headed straight for Yokohama on Sunday. ;)

    Wouldn't make a difference, Japs would get 2 points and wed both be on 16 but they'd still top the group via H2H. It would be the Scots who'd get screwed in that scenario.

    Cheers for the thread GL!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 358 ✭✭YanSno


    Typhoon Hagibis has undertaken an extraordinary intensification phase over the course of today, and now has estimated winds of 180mph and a pressure of 896mb verified by SATIED. The storm could intensify further overnight, and the forecast calls for the storm to pass through the Northern Mariana islands with winds of 190 or 195mph before beginning to steadily weaken as it heads towards Japan this week.
    The immediate threat lies with the Northern Mariana islands, where CDPS Stage 9 (Extreme) conditions are now expected, along with a typhoon warning for Saipan and Tinian, and a Tropical Storm Warning in Guam. Rainfall amounts could reach 12 inches on some of these islands.

    H4szfWW.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    JTWC Prognostic Reasoning.
    WDPN31 PGTW 071500
    MSGID/GENADMIN/JOINT TYPHOON WRNCEN PEARL HARBOR HI//
    SUBJ/PROGNOSTIC REASONING FOR SUPER TYPHOON 20W (HAGIBIS)
    WARNING NR 010//
    RMKS/
    1. FOR METEOROLOGISTS.
    2. 6 HOUR SUMMARY AND ANALYSIS.
    SUPER TYPHOON (STY) 20W (HAGIBIS), LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 178 NM
    NORTHEAST OF ANDERSEN AFB, GUAM, HAS TRACKED WEST-NORTHWESTWARD AT
    16 KNOTS OVER THE PAST SIX HOURS. ANIMATED ENHANCED INFRARED
    SATELLITE IMAGERY (EIR) SHOWS A SYMMETRIC SYSTEM WITH COMPACT AND
    SHARPLY-OUTLINED EYEWALL SURROUNDING A PINHOLE 5NM EYE. THE EIR LOOP
    ALSO SHOWS SPIRAL RAIN BANDS, MOSTLY FROM THE SOUTH, CONTINUE TO WRAP
    VERY TIGHTLY TOWARD THE EYEWALL. UPPER-LEVEL ANALYSIS INDICATES
    RADIAL OUTFLOW WITH VERY STRONG EQUATORWARD AND EASTWARD BIASES
    ENHANCED BY LOW (05-10KT) VERTICAL WIND SHEAR (VWS). SST VALUES AT
    29-30C AND HIGH OCEAN HEAT CONTENT ARE ALSO CONDUCIVE. THE INITIAL
    INTENSITY OF 140KTS IS BASED ON DVORAK ESTIMATES OF T7.0/140KTS FROM
    PGTW AND RCTP. THE CYCLONE IS CURRENTLY TRACKING ALONG THE SOUTHERN
    PERIPHERY OF A DEEP-LAYERED SUBTROPICAL RIDGE (STR) TO THE NORTH.
    3. FORECAST REASONING.
    A. THERE IS NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGE TO THE FORECAST PHILOSOPHY FROM
    THE LAST PROGNOSTIC REASONING MESSAGE.
    B. STY 20W IS FORECAST TO TRACK NORTHWESTWARD THROUGH TAU 72 UNDER
    THE STEERING INFLUENCE OF THE STR. THE AFOREMENTIONED FAVORABLE
    ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED TO PERSIST AND PROMOTE FURTHER
    INTENSIFICATION TO A PEAK OF 150KTS BY TAU 12. AFTERWARD, INCREASING
    VWS WILL TEMPER THE INTENSITY DOWN TO 125KTS BY TAU 72, JUST BELOW
    STY CATEGORY. NUMERICAL MODELS ARE IN TIGHT AGREEMENT WITH A GRADUAL
    AND EVEN SPREAD TO 155NM BY TAU 72, LENDING HIGH CONFIDENCE IN THIS
    PORTION OF THE JTWC TRACK FORECAST.
    C. IN THE EXTENDED PERIOD, STY HAGIBIS WILL TURN MORE NORTHWARD AS
    IT CRESTS THE STR AXIS TOWARD A BREAK IN THE STR ASSOCIATED WITH A
    SHORTWAVE TROUGH FORECAST TO DEEPEN OVER JAPAN. INCREASING VWS
    ASSOCIATED WITH THE STRONG WESTERLIES AHEAD OF THE TROUGH WILL OFFSET
    THE OTHERWISE FAVORABLE ENVIRONMENT AND GRADUALLY ERODE THE SYSTEM
    DOWN TO 90KTS BY TAU 120 AS IT IS ABOUT TO MAKE LANDFALL OVER
    SOUTHERN JAPAN. NUMERICAL MODELS DIVERGE SIGNIFICANTLY TO 310NM AT
    TAU 120; THIS PLUS SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES IN ALONG-TRACK SPEEDS LEND
    LOW CONFIDENCE IN THE EXTENDED PORTION OF THE JTWC TRACK FORECAST.//
    NNNN


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    Based on current data, this looks like being a non-event for Ireland's match, but that won't stop the Irish media getting carried away. The GFS is the easternmost track, almost missing Japan to the east completely, so were that to verify it may not affect any match at all!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    This is where the centre was in relation to ocean heat content (100-150 kJ/cm²) just before it started rapid intensification last night.

    2019WP20_OHCNFCST_201910061800.GIF


    It has a fair bit of dry air to punch through over the next couple of days.

    2019WP20_16KMGWVP_201910071510.GIF


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,151 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    Based on current data, this looks like being a non-event for Ireland's match, but that won't stop the Irish media getting carried away.

    George Lee on the way! :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,718 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    The question is will rte have a prime time special about it with George Lee flown over to report on it.......

    Beaten to it by Docarch


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 422 ✭✭Popeleo


    I think they all got excited by the Japan Meteorological Agency's forecast early this morning Irish time. That had Fukuoka at the centre of their projected track.

    Their projected track has changed considerably to the east since then. At the moment Fukuoka looks like one of the safest place in Japan.


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 422 ✭✭Popeleo


    Forecast track in relation to Fukuoka. That landfall point is around 700 knm from Fukuoka.

    492532.png

    That landfall point is very near Suzuka and the Japanese GP is this weekend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    DOCARCH wrote: »
    George Lee on the way! :p

    492536.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    Latest Japan Met Agency's track has about a 5% chance of 50-knot winds in Fukuoka.

    More info here.

    492537.png


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭schmoo2k


    Updated Image - Marked Irish and Scottish matches.

    PkL8PkZ.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,509 ✭✭✭Reckless Abandonment


    Popeleo wrote: »
    That landfall point is very near Suzuka and the Japanese GP is this weekend.

    Wet race.. bring it on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 358 ✭✭YanSno


    Latest track from the JTWC
    WuygYGn.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    It's just passed right over the island of Anatahan, which luckily is uninhabited. The island south of that is Saipan, where Super Royphoon Keane caused damage back in 2002.

    It's going through an eyewall replacement cycle now and is expected to increase slightly to a max of 145 knots before slowly starting to weaken in a couple of days. The new track a slight bit east of the last one, more in line with Yokohama and Tokyo and completely eliminating Fukuoka from the equation. In fact, landfall would be right at Shizuoka, where Ireland played Japan.

    Latest IR

    2019WP20_4KMIRIMG_201910072100.GIF

    Winds

    2019WP20_MPSATWND_201910072100_SWHR.GIF
    WDPN31 PGTW 072100 MSGID/GENADMIN/JOINT TYPHOON WRNCEN PEARL HARBOR HI// SUBJ/
    PROGNOSTIC REASONING FOR SUPER TYPHOON 20W (HAGIBIS)
    WARNING NR 011// RMKS/
    1. FOR METEOROLOGISTS.
    2. 6 HOUR SUMMARY AND ANALYSIS. SUPER TYPHOON (STY) 20W (HAGIBIS), LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 168 NM NORTH OF ANDERSEN AFB, GUAM, HAS TRACKED WEST-NORTHWESTWARD AT 17 KNOTS (KTS) OVER THE PAST SIX HOURS. ANIMATED ENHANCED INFRARED SATELLITE IMAGERY (EIR) DEPICTS STY 20W AS A HIGHLY SYMMETRIC SYSTEM WITH SPIRAL CONVECTIVE BANDS WRAPPING TIGHTLY INTO A SMALL, 6 NM DIAMETER EYE SURROUNDED BY A WELL-DEFINED EYEWALL. THERE IS HIGH CONFIDENCE IN THE INITIAL POSITION. THE INITIAL INTENSITY IS SET AT 140 KTS, SUPPORTED BY DVORAK CURRENT INTENSITY (CI) ESTIMATES OF T7.0/140 KTS FROM PGTW AND RJTD, BOTH OF WHICH ARE CORROBORATED BY THE CIMSS ADVANCED DVORAK TECHNIQUE (ADT) AND SATCON ESTIMATES. THERE ARE INDICATIONS THAT THE SYSTEM HAS BEEN UNDERGOING AN EYEWALL REPLACEMENT CYCLE (ERC) SINCE THE PREVIOUS WARNING, RESULTING IN A STEADY-STATE INTENSITY OF 140 KTS. UPPER-LEVEL ANALYSIS SHOWS STRONG RADIAL OUTFLOW WITH ENHANCED OUTFLOW EQUATORWARD AND EASTWARD. WITH LOW (05-10 KTS) VERTICAL WIND SHEAR (VWS) AND HIGH (30-31 CELSIUS) SEA SURFACE TEMPERATURES (SST), STY 20W CONTINUES TO TRACK THROUGH A HIGHLY FAVORABLE ENVIRONMENT, WITH SOME FURTHER INTENSIFICATION POSSIBLE AFTER THE COMPLETION OF THE CURRENT ERC. A SUBTROPICAL RIDGE (STR) TO THE NORTH IS THE PRIMARY STEERING INFLUENCE AS THE SYSTEM TRACKS WEST-NORTHWESTWARD ALONG ITS SOUTHERN PERIPHERY.

    3. FORECAST REASONING. A. THERE IS NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGE TO THE FORECAST PHILOSOPHY FROM THE LAST PROGNOSTIC REASONING MESSAGE. B. THROUGH TAU 72, STY 20W WILL CONTINUE TO TRACK NORTHWESTWARD ALONG THE SOUTHWESTERN PERIPHERY OF THE AFOREMENTIONED STR. THE FAVORABLE ENVIRONMENT (LOW VWS, HIGH SST, AND EXCELLENT UPPER-LEVEL OUTFLOW) IS EXPECTED TO PERSIST THROUGH THE SHORT-TERM FORECAST PERIOD, ALLOWING FOR INTENSIFICATION TO A PEAK OF 145 KTS BY TAU 12. AFTERWARDS, THE INTENSITY WILL SLOWLY BEGIN TO WEAKEN AS THE SYSTEM?S OUTFLOW BEGINS TO BE DISRUPTED TO THE NORTHWEST. NUMERICAL MODELS ARE IN TIGHT AGREEMENT, SLOWLY INCREASING TO A CROSS-TRACK SPREAD OF 140 NM BY TAU 72, LENDING HIGH CONFIDENCE IN THIS PORTION OF THE JTWC TRACK FORECAST. C. IN THE EXTENDED FORECAST, A SHORTWAVE TROUGH OVER JAPAN IS EXPECTED TO DEEPEN, ERODING THE STR AND ALLOWING STY 20W TO TURN NORTHWARD AS IT ROUNDS THE STR AXIS. AROUND TAU 96, THE SYSTEM WILL BEGIN TO RECURVE, TRACKING NORTHEASTWARD THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE FORECAST PERIOD. AS IT DOES SO, THE SYSTEM WILL SLOWLY WEAKEN IN RESPONSE TO INCREASE VWS ASSOCIATED WITH THE APPROACHING TROUGH, WHICH WILL OFFSET THE OTHERWISE FAVORABLE ENVIRONMENT. THE NUMERICAL MODELS HAVE A LOW (90 NM) CROSS-TRACK SPREAD AT TAU 120. HOWEVER, THE TIMING OF THE RECURVATURE RESULTS IN UNCERTAINTIES WITH THE FORWARD MOTION OF THE SYSTEM, LENDING LOW CONFIDENCE IN THE EXTENDED PORTION OF THE JTWC FORECAST.// NNNN

    wp202019.19100706.gif


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    The JMA have it at 105 knots in their update at 2140Z. Seems a little low as they give the gusts as 150 knots. Maybe they're using 10-minute averages.

    http://www.jma.go.jp/en/typh/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    It's weakened 5 knots overnight as the ERC completed. Slight strengthening should reoccur before it weakens to about a 90-knot landfall now a bit further east again, closer to the Chiba area east of Tokyo Saturday night.

    diag20191008T032611_amsr2_85.png

    wp202019.19100718.gif


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭schmoo2k


    Updated track from https://www.jma.go.jp/en/typh/index.html:

    QCbHHZn.png

    (I marked the Irish and Scottish RWC venues for reference)


  • Advertisement
  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,135 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    Looks likely to affect F1 and Eng rugby this weekend. Suzuka circuit issued a statement this morning regarding a possible vague 'change of events' this weekend for the F1.

    And for the rugby, well..
    World Rugby insists it has a "robust contingency plan in place" should the adverse weather impact tournament fixtures.

    However, any games cancelled at the World Cup because of the weather are registered as scoreless draws.

    Scotland need to beat Japan to stand any chance of reaching the last eight, while a victory sends Ireland into the last eight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    The ERC has completed now and the eyewall is no longer a pinhole. The latest track has landfall near Shizuoka on Saturday Japan time. The F1 at Suzuka is about 150 km west of this forecast track so wind would not be a problem for the qualifying but rain sure could.

    wp202019.19100812.gif

    37 GHz (shows lower structure/clouds)

    diag20191008T202140_gmi_37.png

    85 GHz (shows upper structure/deep convection bands). The eye is wider at the top than at lower levels (37 GHz).

    diag20191008T202140_gmi_85.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,584 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    If it happens during the rugby is it a tryphoon?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    If it happens during the rugby is it a tryphoon?

    I was gonna go with

    If the Irish match is cancelled sending Scotland to the qf can we call it typhoon Haggis instead of hagibis.


  • Registered Users Posts: 205 ✭✭Awaaf


    I keep reading it in my head as Typhoon Heebeegeebees! Thanks for the clear updates on this one guys.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    Latest forecast keeps the 64-knot radius in the northwest quadrant just far enough away not to affect the F1 at Suzuka. Still looking like landfall as a Cat 1 somewhere in the greater Tokyo region around lunchtime Saturday Irish time (Saturday night Japan time), so probably just early enough not to affect the Scotland match 18-24 hours later.

    492656.gif

    20W_090000sair.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Naggdefy


    Awaaf wrote: »
    I keep reading it in my head as Typhoon Heebeegeebees! Thanks for the clear updates on this one guys.

    I read it dropping the 'i' as typhoon Hagiis. A Scottish named omen. At first, when it was forecast as a possibility of going to Fukuoka, that our match would be called off and Scotland would beat Japan with both going through to the quarters.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    Latest forecast keeps the 64-knot radius in the northwest quadrant just far enough away not to affect the F1 at Suzuka. Still looking like landfall as a Cat 1 somewhere in the greater Tokyo region around lunchtime Saturday Irish time (Saturday night Japan time), so probably just early enough not to affect the Scotland match 18-24 hours later.


    That could still potentially affect the England-France and New Zealand- Italy matches on Saturday though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,167 ✭✭✭Rebelbrowser


    Is it likely to lead to heavy rainfall in the region of the Irish match even if the windstorm misses it? I understands its the worst pitch in the competition as is.....


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    Latest forecast. Another direct hit for Tokyo Saturday night (after Faxai a few weeks ago).

    492686.gif

    Latest water vapour image.

    20191009.1600.himawari8.x.wv1km.20WHAGIBIS.140kts-910mb-212N-1396E.100pc.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    Hhagibis has made a much earlier turn north and even north-northeastwards by almost half a degree in the past few hours, despite the forecast of it continuing north-northwestwards for the next 24 hours (above). Satellite fixes at 16:20Z and 17:30Z were longitude 139.71E and 139.79E, respectively. The latest sat image at 19Z has it at around 139.90E, which is a difference of about 40 NM compared to where it should have been (around 139.20E)

    It seems more than just a wobble. Will it mean it will miss Japan completely? We'll see...

    16:20Z
    diag20191009T162010_amsr2_37.png

    17:30Z
    diag20191009T173000_GI.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    The JTWC say it's just a wobble and it will resume NNW-wards. Still, it's still heading NNE-wards and is now centred along 140.0E, almost 60 NM east of forecast. This is around the difference between landfall near Tokyo and completely missing land to the east.

    Weakening should begin in about 12 hours' time.
    WDPN31 PGTW 092100
    MSGID/GENADMIN/JOINT TYPHOON WRNCEN PEARL HARBOR HI//
    SUBJ/PROGNOSTIC REASONING FOR SUPER TYPHOON 20W (HAGIBIS) WARNING NR
    019//
    RMKS/
    1. FOR METEOROLOGISTS.
    2. 6 HOUR SUMMARY AND ANALYSIS.
    SUPER TYPHOON (STY) 20W (HAGIBIS), LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 798 NM
    SOUTH OF YOKOSUKA, JAPAN, HAS TRACKED NORTH-NORTHEASTWARD AT 08
    KNOTS OVER THE PAST SIX HOURS
    . ANIMATED ENHANCED INFRARED (EIR)
    SATELLITE IMAGERY REVEALS A 20 NAUTICAL MILE (NM) EYE, PROVIDING
    GOOD CONFIDENCE FOR THE INITIAL POSITION PLACEMENT. ADDITIONALLY,
    THE EYE IS SHOWING TROCHOIDAL MOTION OVER THE PAST 6 HRS. A 091619Z
    AMSR2 89GHZ IMAGE DISPLAYS CONCENTRIC EYEWALLS, HOWEVER THE CIMSS M-
    PERC PRODUCT IS NOT INDICATING A HIGH LIKELIHOOD OF AN EYEWALL
    REPLACEMENT CYCLE (ERC) OCCURRING AT THIS TIME. THE INITIAL
    INTENSITY IS BASED ON DVORAK CURRENT INTENSITY ESTIMATES OF 7.0 (140
    KTS) BY PGTW AND RJTD. FURTHERMORE, THERE IS A 090835Z SMAP IMAGE
    (40 KM RESOLUTION) WITH MAX WIND SPEEDS OF 128 KTS (1-MINUTE
    AVERAGE) THAT SUPPORTS THE CURRENT INTENSITY ESTIMATE. STY 20W HAS
    STRONG RADIAL OUTFLOW; THE POLEWARD OUTFLOW IS BEING FURTHER
    ENHANCED BY A TROUGH TO THE NORTHWEST OF THE SYSTEM. FURTHERMORE,
    THE SYSTEM IS SITTING IN FAVORABLE ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS WITH
    WARM SST (29C) AND LOW VERTICAL WIND SHEAR (VWS). STY 20W IS
    CURRENTLY WOBBLING TO THE NORTH-NORTHEAST AFTER A SHIFT FROM A NORTH-
    NORTHWESTWARD TRACK OVER THE PAST 6-12 HOURS.
    3. FORECAST REASONING.
    A. THERE IS NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGE TO THE FORECAST PHILOSOPHY FROM
    THE LAST PROGNOSTIC REASONING MESSAGE. WIND RADII HAVE BEEN ADJUSTED
    BASED ON RECENT ASCAT-C AND SMAP DATA--THIS DATA CONTINUES TO
    INDICATE AN EXPANSIVE GALE WIND FIELD.
    B. STY 20W WILL TRACK NORTH-NORTHWESTWARD ALONG THE WESTERN
    PERIPHERY OF A DEEP-LAYERED SUBTROPICAL RIDGE (STR) THROUGH TAU 36

    WITH LOW VWS, WARM SST, AND STRONG UPPER-LEVEL OUTFLOW. STY 20W IS
    EXPECTED TO MAINTAIN INTENSITY FOR THE FIRST 12 HOURS DUE TO THE
    ENHANCED POLEWARD OUTFLOW. HOWEVER, STY 20W IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN A
    GRADUAL WEAKENING TREND AFTER TAU 12 AS THE TROUGH BEGINS TO
    INTERFERE WITH OUTFLOW. NUMERICAL MODELS REMAIN IN GOOD CROSS-TRACK
    AGREEMENT BUT POOR ALONG-TRACK SPEED AGREEMENT. AFTER TAU 36, A
    SHORTWAVE TROUGH WILL PASS OVER JAPAN, WEAKENING THE STR AND
    ALLOWING STY 20W TO BEGIN RECURVING. STY 20W WILL BEGIN EXTRA-
    TROPICAL TRANSITION (ETT) NEAR TAU 48. OVERALL, THERE IS GOOD
    CONFIDENCE IN THE OFFICIAL JTWC FORECAST IN THIS PORTION OF THE
    TRACK.
    C. AFTER TAU 72, VWS WILL INCREASE SIGNIFICANTLY, SSTS WILL DROP
    BELOW 24 DEGREES CELSIUS, FRICTIONAL EFFECTS FROM SKIRTING HONSHU
    WILL DISRUPT THE STRUCTURE, AND A LOW LEVEL NORTHEASTERLY COLD SURGE
    WILL BUILD IN TO THE WEST, ALL COMBINING TO CAUSE MORE RAPID
    WEAKENING. STY 20W WILL ACCELERATE NORTHEASTWARD AND COMPLETE ETT BY
    TAU 84 AS THE SYSTEM BECOMES EMBEDDED IN THE MIDLATITUDE WESTERLIES
    AND GAINS STRONG FRONTAL CHARACTERISTICS. NUMERICAL MODELS ARE IN
    FAIR CROSS-TRACK AGREEMENT AFTER RECURVATURE OF STY 20W. HOWEVER, AS
    THE SYSTEM ACCELERATES, ALONG-TRACK SPREAD GREATLY INCREASES THROUGH
    TAU 96. THE JTWC FORECAST TRACK IS PLACED NEAR BUT SLIGHTLY FASTER
    THAN THE MULTI-MODEL CONSENSUS AFTER TAU 72. BASED ON THE VARIATION
    IN MODEL TIMING OF THE RECURVE AND ALONG-TRACK SPEEDS, THERE IS LOW
    CONFIDENCE IN THIS PORTION OF THE JTWC TRACK FORECAST.//
    NNNN


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    Latest wv

    20191009.2100.himawari8.x.wv1km.20WHAGIBIS.140kts-905mb-220N-1398E.100pc.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    Iwo Jima, that first island around 190 NM to the northeast of the eye in the image below, is getting pretty windy now. Mean speed southeasterly 46, gusting 74 knots.
    METAR RJAW 092100Z 12046G74KT 3500 -SHRA BR FEW002 BKN005 OVC010 27/24 Q0990 RMK 2ST002 5ST005 8CU010 A2924=

    20191009.2110.hm8.x.ir1km_bw.20WHAGIBIS.140kts-905mb-220N-1398E.100pc.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,174 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Back on Northwesterly track and England France off.
    Also New Zealand Italy....denying Italy (a 71-3 loss)

    Irelands match will escape
    Scotland being monitored


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    It got worse on Iwo Jima. Gusta up to 94 knots

    https://www.ogimet.com/display_metars2.php?lang=en&lugar=Rjaw&tipo=ALL&ord=REV&nil=SI&fmt=html&ano=2019&mes=10&day=09&hora=06&anof=2019&mesf=10&dayf=10&horaf=15&minf=59&send=send
    METAR RJAW 100600Z 14055G94KT 1600 SHRA BR FEW002 BKN005 OVC010 25/24 Q0977 RMK 2ST002 5ST005 8CU010 A2888=


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donegal Storm


    What's the chances of this actually affecting the Scotland game?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,167 ✭✭✭Rebelbrowser


    What's the chances of this actually affecting the Scotland game?

    Storm will be well gone but if it causes lots of damage to transport etc then it will be cancelled. In fact, seeing as cancelling it puts Japan through as group winners I'd say the organisers will be only too delighted to do this! Italy have already been knocked out due to a match cancellation (they had a theoretical chance of going through still) so the precedent is now there. If I was Scotland I would be very, very afraid....


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,167 ✭✭✭Rebelbrowser


    Just looking at the latest guidance (below), it looks to me as though:-

    - this could still affect (but not cancel) the Irish match (see discussion on the yellow circle on the map below)
    - it looks to me as though when they are making a call on the Japan v Scotland match (6 hours before at latest) there could still be a decent wind blowing in Yokohama which must heighten risk of cancellation if the main part of the storm (landing ca. 24 hours before the match starts) is very strong and causes damage
    - Just comparing the latest guidance with the track predicted last night, there looks to me as though there has been a pronounced shift west in the predicted track. The further west it tracks the more it could affect the Ireland match and the later it arrives in Tokyo (heightening the risk of the Scotland game being cancelled)

    On the chart below the times are UTC (same time as Ireland right now) so Japanese times are +9 hours. Thus you can see that at 6am UTC on Saturday (3pm Japanese time) the storm is approaching Japan. At that stage, crudely, it is about 500km from Fukuoka where Ireland are playing at, I think, 8.45pm Japanese time. It then moves north east along the coast towards Tokyo / Yokohama and away from the Ireland match. Thus it should be 750km+ from the Irish match by kick off. Any further correction west in the track, or slowing down of its arrival time, could lead to a fair bit of wind and rain for the Irish match though. Not sure if there is a roof in the Fukuoka stadium?

    Current landfall near Tokyo seems to be slated for, crudely, 12 noon UTC / 9pm Japanese time on Saturday night. Looking at the diamater of the red cone (denoting the areas that can expect 50 nkot+ winds) and the diameter of the yellow circle (showing areas that can expect 30 Knot+ winds), it looks as though the winds may not abate below 30 Knots in the Tokyo area until the early afternoon on the Sunday, with the Japan v Scotland match kicking off at 8.45pm local time.

    all-00.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,951 ✭✭✭✭Villain


    Impressive size!

    20191010032000.jpg


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,951 ✭✭✭✭Villain




  • Registered Users Posts: 3,167 ✭✭✭Rebelbrowser


    Latest update below. Track seems a little further east so can't see this having any effect at all on Irish match. Still a direct hit for Tokyo area with landfall ca. 9pm local time on Saturday night with gusts of 120 knots (thats 222km) at that time. That's serious stuff. Will be clear of Tokyo by the time of the Japan v Scotland the following night, but not that long clear and there is bound to be a lot of debris etc around. I'd say much more likely to be cancelled than not if this chart comes to pass....

    1919-00.png


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Naggdefy


    Not at all fair on the Scots if it comes to pass. But that's a discussion for the rugby forum.

    Is this typhoon of relatively unprecedented strength or common enough power?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    Poor Iwo Jima's still getting battered by gusts up to 90 knots, and that's been going on for almost 24 hours (since 20Z yesterday).
    METAR RJAW 101500Z 17050G79KT 3200 -SHRA BR FEW002 BKN005 BKN010 26/25 Q0985 RMK 2ST002 5ST005 7CU010 A2911=
    METAR RJAW 101200Z 17057G90KT 2000 -SHRA BR FEW002 BKN005 OVC010 25/24 Q0982 RMK 2ST002 5ST005 8CU010 A2902=

    Latest track has it landfalling at 85 knots somewhere near Shimoda at 12Z on Saturday. Interaction with land should weaken it a bit before it hits Tokyo proper.

    wp202019.19101000.gif


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭HighLine


    Villain wrote: »
    Impressive size!

    Stunning photo.. where do you find that imagery if you don't mind me asking?


  • Registered Users Posts: 586 ✭✭✭andymx11


    How long before the Ireland game can we guarantee it won’t hit that area?

    I assume the path can dramatically change and with that impact where Ireland are playing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    andymx11 wrote: »
    How long before the Ireland game can we guarantee it won’t hit that area?

    I assume the path can dramatically change and with that impact where Ireland are playing?

    If you were to read the Irish Mirror, etc., yes, it could, but in the real world there is practically zero chance of that happening.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,925 ✭✭✭Reati


    Any chance there will be a red alert? Meant to be driving to work in the morning but worried now. Can someone please tell me when it's due to hit?

    /joke


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    There is a lot of dry air now wrapping around the storm. Weakening should be steady from now on.

    diag20191010T173000_GS.png


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,186 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    Reati wrote: »
    Any chance there will be a red alert? Meant to be driving to work in the morning but worried now. Can someone please tell me when it's due to hit?

    /joke

    George lee doing a 3 hour morning special from 6am so maybe best to tune in.


  • Advertisement
Advertisement