About them vegans lads

Neon_Lights · 12-06-2019 8:44am #1

What a bunch of opinionated vegetable eaters

TuringBot47 · 12-06-2019 8:46am

Neon_Lights wrote: »

What a bunch of opinionated vegetable eaters

I see you have a strong opinion on that.

Neon_Lights · 12-06-2019 8:47am

TuringBot47 wrote: »

I see you have a strong opinion on that.

Can't spell opinion without onion

ILoveYourVibes · 12-06-2019 8:48am

We don't need your luuurve. :cool:

Deebles McBeebles · 12-06-2019 8:50am

Didn't we do this last week? You need to catch up, NL.

TuringBot47 · 12-06-2019 8:50am

Neon_Lights wrote: »

Can't spell opinion without onion

I assume you eat vegetables too, just not exclusively.
So vegetable eating itself isn't the problem.

It's the anti-carnivore preaching.

12-06-2019 8:51am

Doubt they are any more opinionated than meat eaters like us really. We just have the privilege of being the status quo and hence have to express our opinions less often - or less vocally - or less noticeably.

Alas their opinions seem quite limited. I have tried to open discussions with them often as to why - morally speaking - I should not be eating meat or using animal products.

Instead they answer the same way pretty much every time - by showing issues with current farming practices. And I entirely agree with all those points! We need very much to improve that.

But issues with how we produce animal products - and issues about the use of animal products itself - are two different things. So every single time they are answering a question I have not actually asked.

So I continue to happily eat meat and use animal products - I just source those products as ethically as I possibly can while doing so.

ILoveYourVibes · 12-06-2019 8:53am

You eat fruit and veg too!

Instead of focusing on our differences lets focus on our similarities.

Lettuce and ....Getting drunk and high on cocaine!

Zaph · 12-06-2019 8:53am

I'd struggle to eat a whole vegan.

Neon_Lights · 12-06-2019 8:54am

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Instead of focusing on our differences lets focus on our similarities.

Lettuce and ....Getting drunk and high on cocaine!

On that would you not consider the yeast microbes as a living organism, also water isn't vegan cause fish have sex in it

ILoveYourVibes · 12-06-2019 8:54am

Zaph wrote: »

I'd struggle to eat a whole vegan.

I'm pretty small and tender

Auguste Comte · 12-06-2019 8:56am

I had a vegan sausage roll last week, feckin thing tasted like it was made from real vegans.

ILoveYourVibes · 12-06-2019 8:56am

Neon_Lights wrote: »

water isn't vegan cause fish have sex in it

eeeewww

ILoveYourVibes · 12-06-2019 8:56am

Auguste Comte wrote: »

I had a vegan sausage roll last week, feckin thing tasted like it was made from real vegans.

LUKE YOU ATE MY FATHER!

Tornaxx · 12-06-2019 9:00am

Neon_Lights wrote: »

On that would you not consider the yeast microbes as a living organism, also water isn't vegan cause fish have sex in it

...And mushrooms are closer to being animal than plants.

Auguste Comte · 12-06-2019 9:00am

Neon_Lights wrote: »

On that would you not consider the yeast microbes as a living organism, also water isn't vegan cause fish have sex in it

I've heard of yeast microbes killing off the odd orgasm.

GLaDOS · 12-06-2019 9:00am

Generally I hear meat eaters give out about vegans way more than vice versa. Some people are weirdly obsessed with them.

ILoveYourVibes · 12-06-2019 9:01am

Tornaxx wrote: »

...And mushrooms are closer to being animal than plants.

FUNKY ! THEY ARE FUNKY!

Deebles McBeebles · 12-06-2019 9:01am

Zaph wrote: »

I'd struggle to eat a whole vegan.

Not as much as a vegan would struggle eating you. They don't have the jaw strength you see.

A few more vegan facts:

Vegans are all left handed, the lack of left handed cutlery is actually what turned them vegan in the first place.

Vegans are usually named Karl or funnily enough, Kobi.

Vegans will only walk on the cracks in the path on 3 out of the 7 days.

Vegans always greet one another by raising the big toe on their right foot but you cannot see this unless they are an extremist vegan who would usually be barefoot or wearing disgusting hemp sandles.

ILoveYourVibes · 12-06-2019 9:03am

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

Not as much as a vegan would struggle eating you. They don't have the jaw strength you see.

A few more vegan facts:

Vegans are all left handed, the lack of left handed cutlery is actually what turned them vegan in the first place.

Vegans are usually named Karl or funnily enough, Kobi.

Vegans will only walk on the cracks in the path on 3 out of the 7 days.

Vegans always greet one another by raising the big toe on their right foot but you cannot see this unless they are an extremist vegan who would usually be barefoot or wearing disgusting hemp sandles.

Oh my god i am left titted.

joe40 · 12-06-2019 9:05am

I'm certainly not a vegan, a confirmed meat eater I am. But I do find it strange that meat eaters can be so fussy about the animals they get their meat from. For example would anyone here eat meat from a dog or a horse.

Feisar · 12-06-2019 9:05am

GLaDOS wrote: »

Generally I hear meat eaters give out about vegans way more than vice versa. Some people are weirdly obsessed with them.

My only gripe is the "saving the planet stuff".

Surely locally grown/harvested would be better for the planet than quinoa and avocados being shipped to Ireland?

Auguste Comte · 12-06-2019 9:08am

joe40 wrote: »

I'm certainly not a vegan, a confirmed meat eater I am. But I do find it strange that meat eaters can be so fussy about the animals they get their meat from. For example would anyone here eat meat from a dog or a horse.

Mines mostly from the butcher.

ILoveYourVibes · 12-06-2019 9:08am

joe40 wrote: »

For example would anyone here eat meat from a dog or a horse.

Deebles McBeebles · 12-06-2019 9:09am

joe40 wrote: »

For example would anyone here eat meat from a dog or a horse.

Of course, of course.

Feisar wrote: »

My only gripe is the "saving the planet stuff".

Surely locally grown/harvested would be better for the planet than quinoa and avocados being shipped to Ireland?

I always though eating local and in season was a part of the vegan ethos. Of course it won't be if you're talking about the bandwagon jumpers who are vegan except for the odd doner kebab.

Feisar · 12-06-2019 9:10am

joe40 wrote: »

I'm certainly not a vegan, a confirmed meat eater I am. But I do find it strange that meat eaters can be so fussy about the animals they get their meat from. For example would anyone here eat meat from a dog or a horse.

When dog tastes like a dry aged rib eye fido is getting fecked!

gozunda · 12-06-2019 9:11am

GLaDOS wrote: »

Generally I hear meat eaters give out about vegans way more than vice versa. Some people are weirdly obsessed with them.

Nope. That's an urban myth tbh. Way more the other way around here. For a bunch that don't eat meat - they are weirdly obsessed with it and spend their time giving out about meat and farming.

_Brian · 12-06-2019 9:12am

joe40 wrote: »

I'm certainly not a vegan, a confirmed meat eater I am. But I do find it strange that meat eaters can be so fussy about the animals they get their meat from. For example would anyone here eat meat from a dog or a horse.

Have eaten both.
Horse is so similar to beef hence the horaemeat scandal from few years ago.
Dog on the other hand was poor quality and not something I’d try again.

In Ireland we have a terribly narrow selection of meats we eat. Go on the continent and they eat a wider variety and more of each animal too.

Feisar · 12-06-2019 9:12am

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

Of course, of course.

I always though eating local and in season was a part of the vegan ethos. Of course it won't be if you're talking about the bandwagon jumpers who are vegan except for the odd doner kebab.

Draw a 20 Kilometer circle around your home, I'd say it'd be hard maintain a balanced diet with food grown within it excluding meat.
I'm from Mullingar so it's beef to the heels around here!

_Brian · 12-06-2019 9:13am

Vegans are anti farming rather than anti animal cruelty.

Have you ever seen them protesting at a halting site where horses are raced to death regularly. Or at puppy farms where family pets are reared. No they are just anti farming.

GLaDOS · 12-06-2019 9:16am

gozunda wrote: »

Nope. That's an urban myth tbh. Way more the other way around here. For a bunch that don't eat meat - they are weirdly obsessed with it and those who choose a normal balanced diet and spend their time giving out about it ...

Well I can only speak anecdotally, but the vegans/vegetarians I know only mention their dietary choices when actually eating or if asked directly. Conversely, they get smart comments on their diet all the time out of context from people who eat meat.

I eat meat myself, but what is it to me if other people don't want to?

gozunda · 12-06-2019 9:16am

joe40 wrote: »

I'm certainly not a vegan, a confirmed meat eater I am. But I do find it strange that meat eaters can be so fussy about the animals they get their meat from. For example would anyone here eat meat from a dog or a horse.

"Im not a vegan" + "dog though" argument lol. The old ones are certainly the best

. Seriously - the number of times I've seen that on boards is quite hilarious.

Do you eat rat? Why not? What's wrong with rat? Are you speciest?

And yes some people do eat horse and dog and even rat.

Do you eat Cacti and grass? Why not?

kenmc · 12-06-2019 9:19am

joe40 wrote: »

I'm certainly not a vegan, a confirmed meat eater I am. But I do find it strange that meat eaters can be so fussy about the animals they get their meat from. For example would anyone here eat meat from a dog or a horse.

Absolutely. Have eaten horse in France. Would eat pretty much anything not endangered (unless of course I was in some dystopian situation, then all bets are off, including human), it's all just fuel at the end of the day.

joe40 · 12-06-2019 9:19am

_Brian wrote: »

Have eaten both.
Horse is so similar to beef hence the horaemeat scandal from few years ago.
Dog on the other hand was poor quality and not something I’d try again.

In Ireland we have a terribly narrow selection of meats we eat. Go on the continent and they eat a wider variety and more of each animal too.

I know horsemeat is commonly eaten in Europe, (I've eaten it myself) but is dog meat? I think Animals that we keep as pets or are domesticated in some way are less likely to be eaten.
I can't argue a moral reason for this it just seems to be the way it is.

_Brian · 12-06-2019 9:19am

GLaDOS wrote: »

Well I can only speak anecdotally, but the vegans/vegetarians I know only mention their dietary choices when actually eating or if asked directly. Conversely, they get smart comments on their diet all the time out of context from people who eat meat.

I eat meat myself, but what is it to me if other people don't want to?

I think the problem is with extremist vegan groups who want to take away your choice to eat the meats you want to and force you to eat along the lines of their chosen doctrine.
That’s a serious problem.

ILoveYourVibes · 12-06-2019 9:21am

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pconn062 · 12-06-2019 9:23am

_Brian wrote: »

Vegans are anti farming rather than anti animal cruelty.

Have you ever seen them protesting at a halting site where horses are raced to death regularly. Or at puppy farms where family pets are reared. No they are just anti farming.

That's some serious whataboutery there. No I've definitely never heard of vegan groups protesting over animal cruelty. Wait until you hear about PETA, it will blow your mind!

Farmers (at least the ones on here) seem to be the most precious bunch.

GLaDOS · 12-06-2019 9:23am

_Brian wrote: »

I think the problem is with extremist vegan groups who want to take away your choice to eat the meats you want to and force you to eat along the lines of their chosen doctrine.
That’s a serious problem.

They're hardly representative of all vegans though. It's a vocal minority that gets attention because the press love that sort of stuff. Nothing generates clicks like outrage.

gozunda · 12-06-2019 9:24am

GLaDOS wrote: »

Well I can only speak anecdotally, but the vegans/vegetarians I know only mention their dietary choices when actually eating or if asked directly. Conversely, they get smart comments on their diet all the time out of context from people who eat meat.
I eat meat myself, but what is it to me if other people don't want to?

Not around here it isn't. Personally dont give a proverbial what anyone eats tbh. But the number of times I've seen open preaching here against those who choose meat etc as part of their diet is quite amazing tbh. For example there was a thread about a sheep that had been killed by some random psycho and it was quickly hijacked into a pro vegan distribe on how meat was the the equivalent of nuclear waste or whatever...

GLaDOS · 12-06-2019 9:25am

gozunda wrote: »

Not around here it isn't. Personally dont give a proverbial what anyone eats tbh. But the number of times I've seen open preaching here against those who choose meat etc as part of their diet is quite amazing tbh. For example there was a thread about a sheep that had been killed by some random psycho and it was quickly hijacked into a pro vegan distribe on how meat was the the equivalent of nuclear waste or whatever...

Where is here? Boards?

I'm talking about real life.

beggars_bush · 12-06-2019 9:25am

I probably eat one or two vegans dinners every week
Haven't died yet
probably much healthier

gozunda · 12-06-2019 9:30am

pconn062 wrote: »

That's some serious whataboutery there. No I've definitely never heard of vegan groups protesting over animal cruelty. Wait until you hear about PETA, it will blow your mind!Farmers (at least the ones on here) seem to be the most precious bunch.

PETA? Lol.

This PETA which has a policy of illegally taking and killing peoples pets? Dont make me puke.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/killing-animals-petas-open-secret_b_59e78243e4b0e60c4aa36711

Ah the old 'precious' insult :rolleyes:

Well when someone is sprouting bull****e about food production etc - you dont think farmers and others aren't going to point this out...

_Brian · 12-06-2019 9:34am

pconn062 wrote: »

That's some serious whataboutery there. No I've definitely never heard of vegan groups protesting over animal cruelty. Wait until you hear about PETA, it will blow your mind!

Farmers (at least the ones on here) seem to be the most precious bunch.

Yea, a group that kills 80% of the animals that make it to their “shelters”

TuringBot47 · 12-06-2019 9:37am

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I'm pretty small and tender

If you're small, then the phrase eat your greens or you won't grow up is rubbish and the whole vegan thing is just another fad diet.

gozunda · 12-06-2019 9:40am

GLaDOS wrote: »

Where is here? Boards?I'm talking about real life.

Boards of course. You did refer to comments btw. And we do get 'real' people here. It's not all bots you know

Zorya · 12-06-2019 9:40am

Don't know what has happened to people, can they not just vent an opinion over a pint, or quietly not eat meat, or whatever the feck. Saw this video this morning. Google tells me this branding style of protest has been going on for years, all over the place. I've no idea what would drive people to such extreme bizarre behaviour, and I'm vegetarian for decades. Why are people so all out freaking weird now?

https://twitter.com/EdgeCGroup/status/1138632878588354560

Sonny noggs · 12-06-2019 9:41am

Neon_Lights wrote: »

Can't spell opinion without onion

Can’t spell perturbed without turd.

ILoveYourVibes · 12-06-2019 9:43am

_Brian wrote: »

Yea, a group that kills 80% of the animals that make it to their “shelters”

The reason they don't is because its a purely for profit making company.

https://www.petakillsanimals.com/

People who care about animals like being around them. Farmers vets etc activists largely do not like the reality of being around animals or are clueless.

Peta wanted Animal Crackers to be re-named.

They constantly use racial profiling for instance they always claim horses owned by people from certain countries are abused without knowing anything and then have to admit they were wrong.

Look at these salaries.

PETA Salaries
Job TitleSalaryMedia Coordinator salaries - 3 salaries reported$41,339/yrCommunications salaries - 3 salaries reported$38,696/yrCruelty Investigations salaries - 2 salaries reported$34,570/yrVeterinary Technician salaries - 2 salaries reported$29,836/yr

For people who love animals they employ very few vets.

PETA holds absolutely no open-adoption shelter hours at its Norfolk, VA headquarters, choosing instead to spend part of its $32 million annual income on a contract with a crematory service to periodically empty hundreds of animal bodies from its large walk-in freezer.

pconn062 · 12-06-2019 9:45am

_Brian wrote: »

Yea, a group that kills 80% of the animals that make it to their “shelters”

Just seeing if you hold everyone to the same standard. We are often told how much farmers care for their animals, especially in Ireland (coming from rural ireland, I largely believe it). So where are the farmers protesting at halting sites? Or puppy farms? Or do they only care about the animals they can make money off? Or is it only the dreaded vegans that are held to such high standards?

I'm not a vegan but some of the nonsense that gets spouted here about vegans and extremists is crazy.

joe40 · 12-06-2019 9:50am

I'm not a vegan at all, but for vegans this is not simply a matter of opinion, for them it is a moral issue that they feel obliged to protest about.
To use an analogy imagine you were protesting slavery in 19th century America would the argument "well if you don't want slaves fair enough but let the rest of us keep our slaves and mind your own business" hold sway over you.
I'm not saying eating meat is the same as slavery it is just that for vegans they find eating meat morally wrong and feel compelled to do something.

I don't agree with their opinion but I accept that they feel strongly about the issue, and it is more than just a difference of opinion.
If a vegan chooses to think I'm morally wrong to eat meat so be it, it won't put me off my steak.

ILoveYourVibes · 12-06-2019 9:52am

pconn062 wrote: »

Just seeing if you hold everyone to the same standard. We are often told how much farmers care for their animals, especially in Ireland (coming from rural ireland, I largely believe it). So where are the farmers protesting at halting sites? Or puppy farms? Or do they only care about the animals they can make money off? Or is it only the dreaded vegans that are held to such high standards?

I'm not a vegan but some of the nonsense that gets spouted here about vegans and extremists is crazy.

A lot of farmers rehome animals from shelters. Esp horses. They also give advice.

Bear in mind they work long hours.

About them vegans lads

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